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23 Mar 2019 09:04:06
Quiet on here during international breaks eh? What's everyone's Liverpool goal of the season so far? I rate Mane's against Bayern, even though neuer made it easier for him.
1.) 23 Mar 2019 09:35:43
Salah vs Bournemouth away when he virtually walked it in.
Salah vs Bournemouth home when Firmino backheeled it to him.
Salah vs Napoli from the right angle.
Mane backheel vs Watford.
Mane chest and volley vs Man Utd.
Mane chip vs Bayern.
Mane chip vs Cardiff on the break.
Firmino turn in the box and finish vs PSG.
Firmino run and finish vs Arsenal.
Sturridge screamer vs Chelsea.
Arnold's free kick vs Watford.
Origi vs Wolves in the FA cup from outside the box.
I don't know mate š take your pick. Probably Mane's backheel or Firmino sitting down the entire Arsenal defence.
2.) 23 Mar 2019 10:41:15
Goal of the season is an Origi tap in! The Sturridge strike at Chelsea and Manes backheel are my excellent, one eye Firmino v PSG was one of my fav moments of the season but Mane v Bayern (turn and chip) is probably the one I'd pick right now.
3.) 23 Mar 2019 10:54:03
Mane vs United was lovely, great pass from Fabinho superb finish. Probably the game that got Mourinho the sack too.
4.) 23 Mar 2019 14:12:07
Firmino's run against Arsenal was so good that it made Torreira fall over whilst he was at least 8 yards away from it.
5.) 23 Mar 2019 14:27:09
On reflection, firmino against arsenal was a cracker, forgot about that one.
6.) 23 Mar 2019 14:52:59
Some great goals this season. What about assists? I think Pickfords assist for Origiās goal was my favourite. Pickford kept our title hopes alive that day.
7.) 23 Mar 2019 19:04:47
Sturridge screamer vs Chelsea. Nothing else even close except Origi for what it meant.
8.) 23 Mar 2019 20:02:00
Origi against Everton.
9.) 23 Mar 2019 20:16:29
Definitely the Origi goal against Everton.
10.) 23 Mar 2019 22:26:10
Origi's goal vs Everton. That was orgasmic.
11.) 24 Mar 2019 08:38:50
I was at Stamford Bridge for Sturridges goal and nearly got my head kicked in as in the moment I forgot I wasnāt in the away end. Probably celebrated that goal more than any other iv seen on tv this season haha oops! Although Iām tempted to go with Maneās backheel just for the pure audacity of it especially as you could see from the replay that he deliberately hit it into the ground to dink it over the keeper!
28 Feb 2019 13:31:29
Ed001, a quick question regarding Robertson if you've got the time.
I've noticed previously, mainly from when he was with Hull and playing with Scotland, that Robbo's crosses are SO much better and accurate when he can curl a ball in from deeper. I noticed it again last night with a peach of a ball for the final goal.
Do you feel that part of his problem with the erratic/ dross crossing is that he struggles to get a decent ball in on the move, and at a straighter angle? Would he, and in turn the team, benefit from him dropping off slightly during attacks and delivering from a deeper position?
It just seems to me that he has far more control when he can take a second to say "thats where i want it to go, if I whip in a curler i can avoid x and y defenders".
This is almost certainly true of all crossers of the ball, but I wondered if it could be more utilised since there's such a drop-off in quality of his crossing on the run/ straight into the box?
Thanks, 10 more wins to go!
{Ed001's Note - yes mate, exactly. He needs to concentrate on his control rather than just whipping it in. A lot of full backs are the same, rushing forward too early and missing the chance to just be in position to play a proper cross.}
1.) 28 Feb 2019 13:44:17
Great post, great answer.
2.) 28 Feb 2019 14:20:19
Bang on the money this. He also his a ball better when its comign to him, which can be the harder technique but executes it better than a standign ball.
3.) 28 Feb 2019 17:28:52
He should look before he puts the cross in. Most of the time he wips in a powerfull fast ball across the face of the goal without putting his head up and checking where the attackers are.
4.) 28 Feb 2019 17:39:50
Am I the only one who thinks he is a very limited average full back! Aimless running with no end product. I like full backs taking on their man and cutting it back.
Just my opinion.
5.) 28 Feb 2019 17:56:40
Yes, JAN. You are prolly the only one as there is nothing average nor limited about Robbo's game. Can he improve and are there flaws to his game? Of course BUT that's about where it ends. He is a very good young FB like TAA on the other side. With time, they will improve. Average or limited? That would be reserved for poor footballers like Walker and Mendy. Both great athletes BUT poor footballers who lack a footballing brain. Just my opinion.
6.) 28 Feb 2019 17:57:56
"Am I the only one who thinks he is a very limited average full back"
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If he is limited average then wonder what he can do if he was above average. He has the most assists for any full back in the premier league, so these aimless crosses or whatever you lot are calling it are serving a very good purpose .
7.) 28 Feb 2019 18:10:32
Who is better in the PL?
I read he has 8 assists more than any of our other players. Not sure if true but maybe proves he is doing ok going forward. We have our best ever premier league defence and I wouldn't swoop Robbo for any of our other PL left backs. It is the hardest position to play, you have to be 2 players in one.
8.) 28 Feb 2019 18:15:06
AVERAGE! Iāve heard it all now. A few below at games and suddenly your average! š.
9.) 28 Feb 2019 18:55:25
Alba and Marcelo are certainly prettier with their technical ability. But robbos output ever sonce the Man City game 4-3 last season has been second to none in the world.
10.) 28 Feb 2019 19:19:02
JAN, āAimless running with no end productā? Robbo has an impressive number of assists this season, of course (8 so far, only 2 behind the leading player Hazard and 1 behind Eriksen, SanĆ©, Sterling, Pogba and Fraser) but why let the facts get in the way of your prejudices and negativity? If you had watched just our last 2 PL home games you would have seen an excellent through ball for Wijnaldum to score against Bournemouth and an excellent cross for Van Dijk to score against Watford. Or donāt they count as āend productā in your version of the game?
11.) 28 Feb 2019 19:52:39
And a Reckless Tackle right on the stroke of Half Time against Leicester resulting in a free kick from which Maguire scored, which cost us 2 points. We would now have a 3 point lead instead of one, how much it will cost us ultimately, will only be determined at the end of the season, if we come short by one point Fans will remember his one "assist" for city rather than the impressive assists for LFC, and hopefully more assists to come this season.
12.) 28 Feb 2019 20:14:38
007,
Yes he can be a bit reckless at times BUT a lot happened between the kick being taken and the goal being scored. Robbo wasn't in the defensive line on his own.
13.) 28 Feb 2019 20:11:21
007, if you want to concentrate on Robboās occasional mistakes (and name me one player who has never made a mistake) rather than all the good things he contributes to the team, then go ahead but I am pretty sure that you will be in a minority amongst Liverpool supporters. It is quite frankly laughable that real Liverpool supporters (rather than the fair weather hangers-on) would hold Robbo responsible if we do come up short which, by the way, I donāt think will be the case.
14.) 28 Feb 2019 20:19:22
I think he has struggled because I put him in my fantasy football team at xmas. I took mane out and put Salah in, guess what Salahs scoring has slowed and mane can't stop scoring. So basically it is my fault. I took aubameyang out last week.
15.) 28 Feb 2019 20:28:22
Give your head a wobble harry, his work rate alone is world class, you must have missed the delivery for virgils second? Oh and he's still young and developing.
16.) 28 Feb 2019 20:43:44
Well said WW.
Can I just point out as well, when the choice was Ben Mendy or Andy Robbo I wonder how many fans would have chosen Robbo. Less than 1%? This is why football is brilliant. In Klopp we trust.
17.) 28 Feb 2019 20:55:15
Ask the fans at Anfield, always always gets a rousing reception. Heās a 100%er. Never gives less than 100% effort and commitment š.
18.) 28 Feb 2019 20:57:20
Every player makes mistakes, forwards miss chances, midfielders give the ball away, defenders concede free kicks.
To blame Robertson for us dropping 2 points at home to Leicester is just ridiculous. The foul was conceded almost on the touchline, there were multiple chances for us to clear the ball, no one was picking up Maguire and there was still the whole of the second half to play.
This sort of uneducated blaming of a player for a defeat when they make one mistake during the course of a 90 minute match really is laughable.
19.) 28 Feb 2019 21:49:47
Spot on, SmegHead and WW. They do the same thing with Lovren, Hendo and who ever they don't like. They pick the one game or few games a mistake was made while conveniently forgetting the great things they have done in many other games and use it to put them down. It smacks of intellectual dishonesty pathetic scapegoating.
If you want to judge a player, judge them on their body of work over a long period of time. Failure to do that means you have no real argument to make about your judgement of the play so you resort to nitpicking which everyone knows, does not prove a damn thing.
20.) 28 Feb 2019 22:08:39
Ed025, how come ye never let me defend myself with regard to the "Wirral Wonder Boy/ Girl " post, or will me and you only know the Truth?
{Ed025's Note - i dont know what you mean to be honest mate
21.) 28 Feb 2019 23:02:52
I really do not know what level of cloud cuckoo land some people live in. Even at the beginning of this season I was still a little unsure of Robbo's poential, but the lad just keeps getting better and better. He may have had a few slightly off matches, but if there is a more improved player in the league over the last year I can not think of them.
Robertson would not look out of place in any team in world football right now. That is not something I thought I'd say this time last year. So, when people expect so much more of him, I do not know who they are comparing him to because very few players, if any, would be doing a better job overall than he is.
22.) 28 Feb 2019 23:03:32
007, in these days of tricky gender politics, feel free to address me as either Wirral Wonder Boy or Wirral Wonder Girl and I will do my best to be gender fluid. But to be honest Wirral Wonder Arl Fella is nearer the mark.
{Ed033's Note - Are you Diana Prince? :)
23.) 28 Feb 2019 23:09:57
Every single goal we have conceded this season has been from a mistake then . Someone would have had to have conceded possession for the opposition to get the ball so letās not start blaming Robbo if we donāt win the league. We win as a team and we lose as a team.
24.) 01 Mar 2019 04:08:57
unless a player's skill and execution is so terribly bad, as long as they are a 100%er then I'm ok with them. that's what has made me turn on sturridge for the worst and has led to have soft spots for the unheralded guys like Lucas and Moreno. Robbo fits this for me too.
26 Dec 2018 19:47:09
Absolutely buzzing with our season so far, but cannot start counting chickens yet. Spurs look like real challengers, and if i'm right (first time for everything! ) I think Spurs have a lot of home games to play in the second half of the season because of their stadium debacle. Just got to keep focused on getting those wins.
1.) 26 Dec 2018 20:32:28
Spurs have 10 more home games we have 9 so it's not really an advantage they have. Plus all them Derby games the London clubs have.
2.) 26 Dec 2018 22:49:00
Great to see them still in the hunt, Poch spent nothing in the summer and theyāve Wembley, two great teams, managers at the top.
3.) 26 Dec 2018 23:48:17
Spurs have to go to City, Chelsea and Anfield so there goes their perceived advantage. Also, remember that they lost to both us and City at home already so those are points they can't get back unless they beat both of us and City which will be NO cakewalk. Either way, I don't care for other teams nor what they do. I am focused on us and what we are doing and if we continue to take care of our own business, NOTHING else will matter. The next game is the most important one and we should focus on Arsenal.
11 Mar 2018 19:47:46
Away from the "we suck - no you suck for saying we suck" daily grind, this is one for ED001. I was speaking to an old friend of my dad's over the weekend, who used to have strong ties with the club. He was telling me an anecdote about Phil Thompson. He said that as a young player, he had such a love for playing the game that, even after he signed professional terms for the club, he used to try and play with the local amateur teams as often as he could, playing with boys he grew up with, and that the club actually had to tell him to stop. I only know Thommo the pundit as he was before my time, but it was nice to hear about his love of football. Can't imagine too many youngsters these days doing that, too much money for youngers see them think of football as their career at an age where they should be playing just cuz they love playing.
He also told me he's good friends with Stevie Mac's dad, and that Macca is a really good lad and has looked after his dad after his mum died etc.
I could have talked to him all weekend, but unfortunately, as it was a big family event we were at, I had to spread myself about and didn't get as much time with him as i would have liked, but it was so cool to chat to someone with real connections to Liverpool of the past.
He's also the reason my dad has a signed '77 European Cup winning team ball, so he was already pretty high in my estimations!
I don't really have a reason for this post, but as I don't know too many Liverpool supporters up here, i wanted to share. So to make it open to everyone, feel free to share your anecdotes about current or past players, or anyone you know with links to the club who you just love listening to. Weekend's done, let's change the subject lads.
{Ed001's Note - actually most kids would play more but they are usually banned in the contract they have to sign to get in the youth academy. It usually limits their activities to a ridiculous amount.}
1.) 12 Mar 2018 00:05:11
Thanks for the post - nice to read this kind of stuff rather than the recriminations that come after every defeat.
2.) 12 Mar 2018 05:07:02
Ed001, what are your views on the professional clubs in England limiting the playing time of the youngsters in that way?
It seems like a lot of the world class talents (Messi, Suarez, Ronaldo) all crafted their skill from playing hundreds and hundreds of hours of football in the streets as a kid - surely the English clubs can take a lesson from this or are they fearful that they may get injured while not playing for the club?
Red Sandman.
{Ed001's Note - they are fearful of injuries but it is a huge mistake. The best sportspeople around the world have usually played a large number of sports in their youth which has aided their development. Johan Cruyff and Michael Jordan were both excellent baseball players before giving it up to concentrate on their chosen sport, Steve McManaman was an excellent cross-country runner, Thibaut Courtois was very good at handball and there are many, many others. Kids learn best through play and they can learn so much by taking part in other sports.
Kids get so little time to play outside these days, they are so often playing video games, so much so that Man Utd's academy has had to develop courses in basic things we all used to learn when we were children. Even silly things like how to fall without hurting yourself, we all learnt from falling out of trees or similar, they are now having to give classes in it. Anything they do which does not involve sitting on their backside should be encouraged.
If they are fearful of the environment in which those other sports and games take place, then the academies should organise themselves to provide the outlet for them. The problem is that there is still too little done in English football with regards to personal development and coaching with anything other than old school beliefs. England is always reactionary, that is why it gets behind the times in terms of new developments in the sport and then has to catch up.
There is still a lot of catching up to be done in terms of coaching, there are still not enough coaches around. As Johan Cruyff said, you would see 3 different coaches as a golfer, one player, 3 coaches, but in football you can have 25 players being coached by one man. It is ridiculous. Players are individuals and should have a lot more one-on-one coaching sessions. Cruyff would find the time to do them when he was in management why, with all the money available, do English clubs not do the same?}
04 Mar 2017 16:48:16
Question for Ed001, if he would have a rough idea.
The reason i started supporting Liverpool as a kid is because, before I was born, my dad was in a serious car accident, just before him and my mum were due to get married. Long story short, his story was featured in newspapers and a liverpool-supporting stranger was so moved by the story that he drove from Liverpool to Kilmarnock with a football signed by the entire 1977 European Cup Winning team. He showed me it when i was about 10, and it was the first bit of football memorabilia I had ever seen, and I was fascinated. From then on, I was red through and through.
Anyway, I hadn't seen it for years, and just assumed I had either imagined it, or it had been lost or damaged or something, but it turns out it's still safe and sound in my dad's possession, and will be passed to me when he dies. Now, i have NO intention of selling it, ever (for what it means to my dad, and as something i'll pass to my daughter, who i'm raising a red), but i've tried to have a look online to value it, and couldn't really find anything similar. Would you know how much something like that would be worth? It'll always have far more sentimental value than it would ever be worth in Ā£, but I can't help being curious.
Cheers either way Ed.
{Ed001's Note - the only way something like that would ever be sold is via auctions. There is a database of auction prices, but you used to have to pay to access it, which would be the best way to get an idea. The best bet would be to speak to an auction house which have sports memorabilia sales, and ask for a valuation. Those kind of things are sold at specialist auctions, as that is how you get the best value for them.}
1.) 04 Mar 2017 17:07:04
Cheers Ed, much appreciated. No point in me looking into it through auction houses, as it'll never leave this family as long as I live and breathe, was just curious as the only things I found online were like replica shirts that were signed years after the event.
Just have to make sure I raise the girls right, and they hold on to it. it's as good a way as any to get later generations to be Liverpool fans!
Thanks again, appreciate you taking the time out to reply.
{Ed001's Note - things like that were very few and far between back then, so it would be worth more than a shirt or similar, I would think. My cousin works at an auction house in Liverpool, he might have an idea. I will ask him for you.}
2.) 04 Mar 2017 17:38:45
If it's easy enough for you Ed, that would be great, but don't go to any trouble. probably better if the kids don't know how much it's worth!
{Ed001's Note - I will text him after the match, if we win, if not it will have to wait a few days as he is a Toffee and I will get nothing but stick if I message him when we have lost.}
3.) 04 Mar 2017 19:54:09
I know the feeling Ed! Ironically my dad is a Toffee too (despite the whole story above! ) . If I ever miss a game for any reason, I know Liverpool have lost if I get a text from him around the final whistle.
But HEY! We won, so go revel in telling your cousin!
And thanks again man, that's well above-and-beyond.
{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, good to have an excuse to talk to family.}
13 Dec 2019 14:08:58
I'm so happy about this, I've already got a statue erection for Klopp!
06 Aug 2019 13:16:55
Glad to have him back, and should get more game time this season as a few forward players have left this season.
Probably good for his state of mind that he wasn't involved in the Nomads game!
05 Aug 2019 13:18:46
Don't see any downside to this deal for any parties (apart from perhaps West Ham) . Migs gets to go play 1st team football in his home country, Liverpool probably saving a fair amount of wages with Adrian instead of Migs, and a decent transfer fee, and a good back up goalie, and Adrian gets to sign for the reigning Champions of Europe and get cup run outs and the occasional start in the league, probably on better wages than he was on with West Ham.
17 Jul 2019 13:41:54
Funster70 and Weston90 posting almost exactly the same post, that's just lazy whoever you are!
How do all these people know how much Barcelona still owe Liverpool?
15 Jul 2019 13:33:33
Really see no upside to that deal for Barcelona, if it was just an option to buy. A commitment to buy would make more sense, especially if there was also a considerable loan payment made, but a) that's not what the article says and b) I don't think it's true in any way.
29 Jan 2020 07:06:38
Sell him, start again.
25 Jan 2020 16:12:21
To be fair, no clubs are interested at Ā£70m. If sporting knock Ā£20m off that, plenty of teams would be interested I reckon. He doesn't really suit our midfield from what I've seen, but he'll be a good player for whoever signs him.
23 Jan 2020 17:15:22
That's pretty crazy! To put that into context, I don't think I've ever even done that in football manager!
I looked at the full table today for the first time in ages, surely this is the first time in pl history that only 4 or 5 points have separated 5th-14th by the end of January, league is so tight beyond the top 3.
22 Jan 2020 20:29:28
I don't think city's owners can be criticised, they have been great for the club and the local area. I love our owners, mind.
22 Jan 2020 20:26:32
Gini's ability to shield the ball and turn away from the defender is one of his best talents. Ed is right, it creates space and is vital, and works really well when we're on the break too.