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26 Apr 2023 14:32:14
Being reported Liverpool are interested in Kalvin Phillips ed002. Any truth?
{Ed002's Note - Kalvin Phillips (DM) Do not rule out Manchester City letting Kalvin Phillips go as they have a replacement in mind to upgrade him. He has been offered around and Liverpool may well be keen. Aston Villa may provide a wildcard option.}
1.) 26 Apr 2023 14:55:04
If Phillips is the answer, you’re asking the wrong question? ?.
2.) 26 Apr 2023 14:59:20
If we're going to test Man City's resolve for one of their midfielders it might be worth a shot at one of the lads they have on loan at Sheffield United this season. Both Tommy Doyle and James McAtee look like very good prospects who may struggle to break in there.
3.) 26 Apr 2023 15:11:04
Klopp's recent quotes strike me that he would be very interested in Phillips, but is skeptical that City would sell to LFC.
4.) 26 Apr 2023 15:21:17
If that really us the calibre of midfielder we are looking at. forget it. Stick with the oldies we have already.
5.) 26 Apr 2023 15:34:48
Ed002, would Phillips be viewed as an alternative to Thuram? I really like the sound of Thuram and would hate us to not sign him because we wanted a lesser player. If we signed Phillips AND Thuram i could live with that. They can both play CM and DM.
I really don't think Phillips is the best option out there though. He's 28 this year. Home grown i guess but it's hardly a rebuild signing injury prone players in their late 20's.
{Ed002's Note - KP would be an alternative to Thuram.}
6.) 26 Apr 2023 16:49:19
I think we'd be better off playing Nate Phillips in midfield and save the money.
7.) 26 Apr 2023 18:05:49
City valued KP highly last year so he must have something about him. Happy for any refreshments in mf to be honest!
8.) 26 Apr 2023 18:11:26
Phillips is a very good player but like many of our current centre mids, he struggles to stay fit and because of this I would stay away. For me though he’s good enough to be in our match day squad and currently I would say the starting 11.
9.) 26 Apr 2023 19:12:51
LFC had interest in Kalvin Phillips last summer. Should he become available I'm sure the interest will be renewed.
{Ed025's Note - your welcome to him mftonjes, bloody awful player and im sure you really need a player with his injury record mate..
10.) 27 Apr 2023 01:56:50
With Keita and Ox leaving, someone needs to keep the physios company Ed.
11.) 27 Apr 2023 13:52:42
I'd hope this is not a serious possibility. His injury record alone should be enough for us to stay clear.
12.) 27 Apr 2023 17:55:20
Hey now, I'm not advocating for the move! I don't think he's awful, but he is indeed overrated. I'm just saying LFC liked him in the recent past and could flirt with the idea of adding him if they believe he's undervalued in the marketplace. That's what they do. Deal hunt.
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12 Jul 2024 18:19:53
There’s plenty of waffle about Dumfries kicking Kane when the video clearly shows Dumfries attemping to block the shot and Kane kicking the bottom of his boot. Anyone claiming he challenged for the ball or went in studs up clearly hasn’t watched it back or needs to go to specsavers. You can believe it’s a foul and penalty, regardless.
1.) 12 Jul 2024 18:47:54
Done to death.
2.) 12 Jul 2024 18:55:11
Absolutely.
3.) 12 Jul 2024 21:37:10
The penalty shouldn't have even stood as in the build up saka actually handballed so should have been a free kick to Holland.
{Ed025's Note - but it was, and it wasn,t, so we won and we are in the final, which is all good Walter...Come On England..
4.) 13 Jul 2024 02:16:19
Saka handled the ball just before that either way.
5.) 13 Jul 2024 07:15:59
Quite frankly who cares?
6.) 13 Jul 2024 10:17:44
The Dumfries challenge is the biggest Scottish contribution to the tournament.
7.) 13 Jul 2024 22:51:54
Agree ed 25. Even better if a Liverpool player scores the winner.
{Ed025's Note - it will be Trent in the penalty shootout after a 2-2 draw Walter..
06 Jun 2024 10:08:42
The one issue with Adrian extending is taking up a non-HG spot. Unless some are sold (Tsimikas/ Salah/ Grav/ etc) there’s only 2 non-HG spots left in the squad. If Kelleher leaves it means either promoting from within, buying a HG option or buying at least one HG player to replace either Matip or Thiago.
1.) 06 Jun 2024 10:41:56
I think sometimes fans get to hung up on issues like home grown and finances. I am sure the powers that be are aware of the situation and will plan transfers accordingly.
2.) 06 Jun 2024 11:22:35
Maybe Adrian will become the new goal keeping coach that is why he has been offered a new contract?
3.) 06 Jun 2024 11:41:06
If Alisson wants Adrian to stay, that is enough of a reason for me. A happy Alisson means a happy Virg.
4.) 06 Jun 2024 12:00:19
We've loads of homegrown the academy is seeing to that. People always stress about it each summer yet were always fine.
5.) 06 Jun 2024 14:04:58
June and gaga are right, this conversation happens all the time, every single year. I'd like to think the top dogs know what they're doing, it's fine. Not even worth a thought.
6.) 06 Jun 2024 16:04:02
You can have 17 senior non-HG players. You can then have 8 more senior players but they must be HG for the Premier league rules, and at least 4 of them must be club trained for the UEFA rules. You can list as many u21's as you want. Next season a few of our u21's will have turned 21 and will need to be listed. I believe it is as follows but may not be absolutely 100% accurate as some of the lads returning from loan have also turned 21:
non-HG: (16 players)
Alisson, Adrian, Arroyo, Konate, Virgil, Robbo, Tsimikas, Mac Allister, Szoboszlai, Endo, Gravenberch, Diaz, Salah, Gakpo, Jota, Nunez
HG: (3)
Gomez, Carvalho, Phillips
Club trained: (12)
Kelleher, Beck, Trent, Williams, Koumetio, Bradley, Quansah, Elliott, Morton, Jones, van den Berg, Jaros
We're currently 6 senior players over the 25 man allowance but we're 1 short of the non-HG limit before you even allow for the fact Arroyo will definitely leave. The HG and club trained lists need thinning out for players with no futures here.
7.) 06 Jun 2024 16:12:20
Just the thought of the worlds best goalkeeper being coached by Adrian just seems bizarre to me.
8.) 06 Jun 2024 16:28:34
Who's to say Adrian isn't a natural coach?
The majority of managers were no great shakes as players, their strong suit lay elsewhere.
9.) 06 Jun 2024 16:45:37
Adrian is a waste of a non HG space, as he was last year when he played no games. You can’t keep someone around just for the banter and it’d be better to get a similar age/ experiences English keeper for that third choice slot, there’s no shortage of them who are at the same level or better than Adrian.
As for Arroyo, he won’t be playing for us and is probably going out on loan again.
10.) 06 Jun 2024 17:40:43
VV you’re a waste of space ;)
11.) 06 Jun 2024 18:07:26
VV as Ed01 has said, Adrian is already and essentially part of the GK coaching setup going back to 2 seasons ago so you calling him a waste of a HG spot is just typical nonsense that is spewed with no knowledge of how things actually work at LFC. You may disagree and that is fine BUT at least act like you know how things work at LFC. Just saying.
12.) 06 Jun 2024 18:23:34
Put it this way i wouldn't be worried whether a player is homegrown or not when were trying to sign them, we don't have to. Our academy is doing a cracking job, the standard of player coming through is getting better and better. No stupid english tax for LFC.
13.) 06 Jun 2024 18:42:32
Well if he's a coach sign him as 1, just another hanger on. Just saying.
14.) 06 Jun 2024 19:36:51
If he’s a coach, then join the coaching staff. But wasting valuable non home grown space on a player who doesn’t play and isn’t particularly great when he does play, is the waste of that space given that they are limited to only 17 and the unequivocal fact that English players come at an extreme premium compared to their relative quality, its poor squad management.
15.) 06 Jun 2024 19:37:56
Oli I said he was a waste of a non HG space. That is unequivocal fact.
16.) 06 Jun 2024 19:57:00
In my opinion we will clear out plenty of space and this there is absolutely no need to stress. In the definitely being sold/ loaned I’d have:
- Kelleher
- van den Berg
- Arroyo
- Williams
- Koumetio
- Phillips
Kelleher and Sepp have both publicly declared their desire to leave and the other 4 just aren’t anywhere near good enough. That immediately takes it down to the required 25 players (15 non-HG and 10 HG)
Then in the probably being sold/ loaned I’d predict:
- Jaros
- Tsimikas
- Morton
- Carvalho
- Diaz
Jaros will probably want 1st team football, Tsimikas’ agent reckons he’s for sale, Morton and Carvalho will likely go back to the Championship which is more their level, and Diaz’s dad has made his thoughts abundantly clear. That would leave 20 players (13 non-HG and 7 HG) .
So I think very realistically/ conservatively we will have room for 4 non-HG signings and 1 HG signing over the age of 21. Ed002 has explained that Gomez is also of interest to Saudi and Gravenberch is of interest to Milan but from a position of complete ignorance I still think they will probably end up staying, but if not that’s 1 more HG slot and 1 more non-HG slot freed up. There’s obviously interest in a few others too, however I really can’t see the club allowing Alisson, Virgil, Trent, Mac Allister or Salah to leave in a crucial period of transition irrespective of the interest in them from Saudi, Barcelona and Madrid. That’s basically our 5 best players and the spine of our starting XI. Our finances are very much in order, so we’ll be under no pressure or obligation to sell any of them unless they force the issue, which none of them will do in my opinion.
Abandon your panic stations. We’re fine!
17.) 06 Jun 2024 21:00:34
1985 mickey john Acterberg was a second division goalkeeper at Tranmere rovers before he became a coach at LFC he was coaching Ali for all the time he was at the club and Ali was still best keeper in the world.
18.) 06 Jun 2024 21:59:23
"That is unequivocal fact. "
Your opinions are NOT facts, let alone "unequivocal" facts.
Take a day off, sunshine.
19.) 06 Jun 2024 22:20:42
i thought Tafferal came in 2021 to coach Ali, i am sure he's staying as well.
20.) 08 Jun 2024 08:26:10
Acterberg also coached Mignolet and Karius.
21.) 08 Jun 2024 08:26:10
Acterberg also coached Mignolet and Karius.
22.) 08 Jun 2024 09:26:33
MK, over half those players you’ve listed to be sold weren’t part of the squad. Liverpool currently have 16 senior non-HG players on the books, if Tsimikas and Diaz leave, Liverpool will be able to buy 3 non-HG players max.
05 Jun 2024 08:17:50
Real can afford to pay Kroos et al £300-400k per week as squad players, can Liverpool? All well and good saying give them 5-6 year contracts, but unless buying young diamond in the rough replacements who will be on lower wages, how is it affordable?
1.) 05 Jun 2024 08:55:46
Not one person has said to give them 5 year contracts. You're just making up false quotes to back your point.
I said we should contract them to 35. That's a 3 year deal for Salah, a 2 year deal for Virgil and a 4 year deal for Alisson. You're not going to get world class players to sign 1 year rolling deals.
What's all this about squad players as well? Salah is about to turn 32, not 36. Lewandowski, Benzema, Suarez, Zlatan, Messi, Ronaldo etc were all banging them in well into their 30's. Virgil is 32. Guys like Terry, Pepe, Ramos, Puyol, Maldini, Thiago all played regularly way past their early 30's. Alisson is about to turn 32 and is a keeper. Some keepers play into their 40's!
I just can't get on board with this. Salah is the only one who even looks like he's in decline, but like many other world class wingers before him, he'll just adjust his game. Messi and Ronaldo went up front. Giggs and Barnes went into midfield.
2.) 05 Jun 2024 09:14:58
Nah not for me, although I agree some players still excel into their mid 30’s + I just don’t see salah or vvd doing it, I think the drop off last season was evidence of that, especially salah I don’t see him having the required skill set to alter his game enough to make a world class impact, I’d be looking at moving them both on if we received decent offers.
3.) 05 Jun 2024 09:41:36
Is Salah on decline? I could be talking nonsense here but personally I feel the last few years he has tailed off the back end of seasons. Then set off like a steam train the season after. AFCON and fasting seem to knock him off his stride. I haven’t got time to sift through stats so maybe it’s me mis-remembering but I wouldn’t write him off just yet.
4.) 05 Jun 2024 09:58:19
What Jaydee? looking to move them on? come off it, if we did we'd be in trouble. Don't get me wrong if we got a large sum for Salah then I get it but we aren't going to. At least give them a chance under a new regime. Tell me please mate, who would you want to replace them with?
I really don't understand why so many people are talking about selling our best players, it's every single day I come on here lol. Gobsmacking.
Who's going to be talked about tomorrow?
Too many people are thinking about the financial side of things, forget that. If you sell your best players it's completely bloody irrelevant, the other day it's Alisson now it's VVD and Salah. Do people not see how buggered we'd be without them?
Salah is definitely on the decline, that can't be argued but he still scores and assists, unless we get a huge offer I hope to christ we keep him because he does make a difference and MK is right, players learn to adapt. Good players do anyway and he is still a good player, world class? not anymore but he's still good enough to be kept.
At this point I think we should just sell every good player just to keep the minority happy.
5.) 05 Jun 2024 10:02:21
MK - I do get your point regarding keeping salah/ vvd/ alisson.
Alisson is a must keep, best keeper in the world but we do need to make sure we have a great backup as he does get injured a fair bit in the grand scheme of things for a goalie.
VVD is a tough one, I understand the players you are comparing him to but none of them were exactly blessed with pace, they relied more on their reading of their game so as they got older a loss of pace was not an issue. VVD has always been blessed with pace so this is why his ‘decline’ as he gets older may be more apparent.
Salah is also a tough one. I’ve never really thought of him as a technically magnificent player like other forwards he is compared to. I have always felt like he has relied on his pace to take on a player or fashion a chance for him self - it was that that enabled him to always cut in on his left not really skill or trickery. IF Slot wanted to try salah up top closer to goal then I would be happy for him to stay. If he was to stay as a winger then I would probably move him on.
Just my two cents and it’s great to hear different peoples opinions on it all.
6.) 05 Jun 2024 09:59:21
I'm with WYred and MK Scouser on this. Salah seems to start of well before tailing off, usually after coming back from Afcon. The season that just past, he even had an injury that he came back from and yet, he still ended up as our top scorer and had a decent number of assists as well. He was on fire before going for Afcon and many of us here, myself included, were commenting on how he has adjusted his game to prolong his career. True, he does not have his pace anymore but I do feel he still has something to offer.
The same goes for VVD. Before our slump in April, most of us were commenting how he is back to his best and how he is arguably the best CB in the league. He was not as imperious as he was before his injury but he is still a very good CB and I think he has more to offer as well.
I think we are forgetting how poor the team was in April and that has impacted our view of our players. It is true that we literally threw away three competitions in that one month and there could be many reasons for that happening. But on the flipside, these players are also the ones who got us to April in the first place, still believing in the quadruple. We got to that point because of VVD, Salah, Allison, and everyone else in the team, not in spite of them. So if Salah and VVD wants to stay on in the team, I am more than happy with that. I would not be showing them the door.
7.) 05 Jun 2024 10:36:53
In Mo's position only Palmer (padded by peno's) and player of the year Foden got more Prem goals than him in a season where he was supposedly diobolical. Both played more league games too. Guy is elite, been written off before on these pages many times, always answers the criticism. As for Alli nd Virg, ridiculous to even think about not keeping them. Both still the best in their position in the game.
8.) 05 Jun 2024 11:23:05
Id go one further and say that to lose their presence in the dressing room would be a mistake.
Alisson should not be part of this discussion, the man is outstanding and very much entering his peak years.
9.) 05 Jun 2024 11:25:42
Fair enough points Jaydee and Astarkey. However I think Salah and Dracred both nailed it. If we lose 2 or 3 of our best players in one go it will not end well and i really do believe our poor end to the season is skewing peoples thoughts. Salah was being talked up for POTY at one point and finished the season with 38 goal involvements in 44 games. Virgil actually still got nominated for POTY.
As WYred said, Salah does seem to to drop off slightly after an AFCON for whatever reason but in the Prem there is only 3 players with comparable goal/ assist returns to him; Watkins, Haaland and Palmer. He's still in the top 5 forwards in the Prem quite comfortably even if he does look slower. Because his ability to pick out a killer pass or just know where to be to get a goal is still absolutely elite.
10.) 05 Jun 2024 12:01:00
Sorry but if anyone thinks peak Salah is coming back you are sadly mistaken. That horse has long since bolted and been turned into glue.
To the supporters saying about his form after the AFCON, well it’s entirely likely that he’ll be going to the Olympic Games with Egypt, meaning zero pre season, meaning additional meaningless competitive international games which will affect his fitness and energy levels, then the possibility he picks up another injury, so how do you think that will work out for us?
Club always comes first. Players are transient employees. Without pace Salah is a complete shadow of himself and does not offer much. That was painfully obvious from January onwards. At his age he’s not recovering that pace. It’s gone, the sensible and practical approach is to sell now while there is some market value and reinvest as it’s easier to replace with a wad of cash in our pockets than not, and it isn’t like we can fabricate sponsorship like Man City do if they need to sign a player.
11.) 05 Jun 2024 12:11:43
Who do we have at the club who is better than Mo in his position?
12.) 05 Jun 2024 12:21:19
VV, nobody has said peak Salah is coming back so chill with that stuff that nobody said. What people are saying is that they think Salah w/ o AFCON and injury free going into next season can still do bits. You may disagree BUT that does not mean they said peak Salah is coming back.
As for @fuser's post again, I have not seen anyone here say our big players should get 5 year extensions with 300/ 400k a week. As long as out big players want to stay and the new manager wants them and a deal can be done then, why sell them? To prove what?
Also @Jaydee, VVD was the BEST centre back this season (after many thought he was washed) while in his 30's so that argument by just got debunked by facts. And it would be completely stupid to sell them all in one window as that would make NO business nor football sense at all.
And lastly, is it too much to ask that people actually respond to what people actually say rather than responding to things NOBODY said? Good grief!
13.) 05 Jun 2024 12:26:10
Theres no offer though victor, and seemingly no inclination on Mo's part to move this summer either. doesn't look like that big treasure chest you want so dearly is arriving, not for Salah anyway.
{Ed002's Note - He will be encouraged to run down his contract and leave next summer in exchange for a signing on fee for the value of his then transfer fee.}
14.) 05 Jun 2024 12:28:27
VV, make of this whatever you want but from January onwards Salah made 18 appearances for Liverpool and he scored 9 goals and registered 7 assists. His G/ A ratio was better than 1 per 90 mins. Didn't offer much after January though, eh?
15.) 05 Jun 2024 12:32:09
WDW, there is nobody in Europe as far as I'm concerned. Saka and Rodrygo are the closest in my opinion and they're still way off being as consistent in their end product.
16.) 05 Jun 2024 13:52:20
ed2 - you mentioned - He will be encouraged to run down his contract and leave next summer in exchange for a signing on fee for the value of his then transfer fee - I was thinking about Mo and also Real Madrid picking up Mbappe for "free". In the case where a club seems to agree with their player to run their contract down, do they also negotiate that the signing bonus would be paid to the club?
e. g., We mutually agree with Mo to let his contract run down and then whatever his signing bonus is at the next club, he agrees to pay that to LFC? do clubs do that?
{Ed002's Note - Never.}
17.) 05 Jun 2024 14:24:56
June Nkunku, Foden and Palmer also both had free roles essentially, often playing at the number 10 where you are closer to the goal. Wouldn't put it past Salah playing through the middle. His national team coach was even bigging up how he could play in midfield going forward. It's clear he has started to lose his pace, but he still scores and created goals so put him in a position where he doesn't have to burn past wing backs.
18.) 05 Jun 2024 14:34:10
Ye players often hand over the signing on fee they receive from their new club and hand it over to their old club, simply because they just happen to be really nice guys, I hear from a reliable source that mbappe is handing over his entire 85million signing on fee to psg, what a great guy.
19.) 05 Jun 2024 15:38:05
Mk you mentioned Barnes and Giggs both playing centre midfield as they got older but you fail to mention how awful they were in that position. Because they were both pretty poor there and looked physically shot. I’m not a fan of giving someone a role in the team on the ground of sentiment. We’re Liverpool Football Club, not make a wish. As for Salah after 1st January, he only scored 6 times in the league and most of the season he was struggling to beat defenders.
Whether you want to admit that his time is up doesn’t matter, the facts don’t care about feelings. Age and time have caught him up, he’s been a great player but calculated cold decisions need taking. We can either have a season where we’re just trying to fit him into the team for sentimental purposes or we can do what we used to do and move a player on whose best days are behind them. Bob Paisley always said he preferred it if players legs went on someone else’s pitch and to this day he isn’t wrong.
20.) 05 Jun 2024 16:02:40
After the 1st of January he only started 9 times in the league ? that's 6 goals from only 9 starts. Some strikers are more than happy with that. Why are you so hell bent on bending the stats to discredit him?
The "facts" you talk about are actually your subjective opinions. The only fact on this thread was posted by me; 38 G/ A in 44 games. That is what a fact looks like. Buy a dictionary and look the word up.
Giggs and Barnes weren't awful midfielders either by the way. They both stood out still in their respective teams as driving forces from midfield capable of scoring and creating goals. Giggs was arguably better in midfield in my opinion.
21.) 05 Jun 2024 16:33:10
giggs and barnes were awful in midfield? did you even watch them play? maybe you might not think they were the best midfielders in the world, but giggs started virtually every game when fit and barnes did as well, all the way up to his very last season. barnes was our skipper in midfield and i seem to remember him laying on the winning assist for collymore in *that* newcastle game from exactly that position, after a surging run from deep.
22.) 05 Jun 2024 18:12:20
Moving Allison, VVD and Salah along all in one season is like tearing the heart and core out of the team. And nobody is looking at that in terms of what it could do for on field performance as a team. Let's forget about replacing them with new purchases for now, but just look at their current backups to see the sheer gulf in ability and performance that we would have; Kelleher, Quansah and Elliott.
Even the most eager coach / manager, no matter how ambitious he may be to put his stamp on the team, would never try something like this.
23.) 05 Jun 2024 18:13:37
I should have said 3-4 years not 5, but Salah, VVD et al can easily get 300-400k/ week in the US or ME for their final years, so why would they sign extensions on lower amounts. Even Ed002 has said that if Salah was to sign an extension, he’d want a pay rise despite already being Liverpools highest paid player. My overall point stands; they’ll only sign extensions for big money and can Liverpool afford to do that whilst signing top level replacements or will it result in buying younger replacements on lower wages.
24.) 06 Jun 2024 01:06:16
If anybody seriously think the club are going to let Ali, VVD and Mo all go before the start of next season, then I think you’re probably in for a surprise.
The thing about age is irrelevant. Just because X is still playing at 38 or Y has just signed a new contract for a club at 35 years of age has no bearing upon a completely different player with an altogether different medical history aged 31.
Players, irrespective of age, position or fans fanciful thoughts, will be judged by their suitability for a spot in the squad and the potential for extended contracts by the club. This thread, like a lot since the end of the season are just rationalisations to justify why players they like (or don’t want anymore on the other side of the coin) rather than about the players’ being fit for purpose.
27 Jul 2021 20:24:33
Since the HG issue seems to be going over people’s heads. There are currently 17 non-HG players in the Liverpool squad which is the maximum allowed. Potentially Shaq, Minamino and Origi will leave but if none do then there’s no space in the squad to register another non-HG player.
1.) 27 Jul 2021 20:37:11
I’d also shift Matip for the amount that he’s fit.
2.) 27 Jul 2021 21:13:52
Some WILL leave though.
22 Aug 2015 12:54:57
BR coming out and saying that the ref got the offside call right even though the referee association has come out and said it was offside. Do you guys ever get annoyed that he seems to have a fundamental problem with telling the truth?
1.) 22 Aug 2015 13:20:36
It's not a goal and the ref association are trying to defend a stupidity. It's clear cut offside.
2.) 22 Aug 2015 13:21:36
I have a problem with posters picking over every single thing Rodgers says.
3.) 22 Aug 2015 13:35:53
Does any manager "tell the truth". They all claim "haven`t had a chance to look at it" or "didn`t see it", when ask about an obvious error by the ref that goes in their favour.
Please, please, please lay off Rogers, and stop getting on like a big girls blouse, looking to nit pick at every little thing.
Like it or not he is Liverpool manager, so if you can`t be positive at least don`t be negative.
4.) 22 Aug 2015 13:41:51
"Oh yeah, it was defintely offside. Oh and by the way, the Bournemouth goal should have stood. Lovren was playing for a foul."
Think about a second. If it doesn't make sense to you that Rodgers defended the goal, then stick your head in some ice water and try again.
5.) 22 Aug 2015 13:44:17
Irish Rover, it was hardly a one line comment said in between other topics, but an entire article so not really trying to pick over every tiny thing to find fault with him. I only asked as last season after every match that you guys played badly, he'd come out and praise the team's work rate etc. And whilst I can understand wanting to defend/protect your team, this was a very clear cut decision and one in which the Premier League even came out and said the ref got it wrong.
6.) 22 Aug 2015 13:57:58
What he is saying is it is a goal! Which it is! It won us the game! So it is a goal! Care to argue this fact?
7.) 22 Aug 2015 14:00:50
Fuser
Its boring!
8.) 22 Aug 2015 14:03:06
It was a goal, we won one nil, time to move on.
9.) 22 Aug 2015 14:37:02
I'm not debating whether it was a goal or not. The ref gave it, so it was a goal. My point was BR said that Coutinho wasn't interfering, and saying that he shouldn't have been called offside.
Amerigo tbh I think BR should be coming out, saying all of that AND giving up the 3 points to Bournemouth, paying for all of Bournemouth's travelling fans tickets out of his own pocket and even writing a public letter of apology.
10.) 22 Aug 2015 15:57:08
Mu got 6 pts from two deflected goals so I think we are entitled to a bit of luck also
11.) 22 Aug 2015 17:46:28
And City's result against Chelsea was a fake result and arsene wenger has never seen any of arsenals offsides and Ferguson never said that any of uniteds many many dubious late penalty awards were wrong!
12.) 22 Aug 2015 18:00:16
I'm sure it won't be the only incorrect decision that results in a goal and a win this season in the PL - time to thank our lucky stars and move on, as I'm sure we'll have our share of bad luck too.
13.) 22 Aug 2015 18:05:55
Better pray that luck doesn't run out soon because with the shambles we are seein on the pitch ATM, were going to need every ounce of it
14.) 22 Aug 2015 19:37:35
I look at the results and they say we won.
Hindsight is irrelevant.
15.) 22 Aug 2015 23:17:44
If hindsight is irrelevant, how does anyone learn?
Reflection is a key part of any profession.
16.) 23 Aug 2015 00:01:52
If it had been Mourinho that said that (using him as an example not chelsea related); then everyone would've said a great way to play mind games with the next referee we have.
I don't rate the bloke but be fair at least!
17.) 23 Aug 2015 00:13:38
Of course it is, Ron provided it is in an attempt to make your BFF look good, which it doesn't.
18.) 23 Aug 2015 03:24:50
What BR said was that it was an excellent decision by the 'linesman'. And he was right, it was an excellent decision for LFC. Stop reading redtops who love to twist words. And no, I don't like most of his interviews myself. Don't buy/read on newsnow the 'Scum'
19.) 23 Aug 2015 07:54:54
Well if that is how it works.
Sterling was on side against city so we won the league!! I'm happy enough to trade 3 points for the title!!
Better knock that star off the England football kit as well.
20.) 23 Aug 2015 09:58:05
wiwar- hindsight is obviously not always irrelevant in life, but as there is no retrospective action with regards to offside decisions in association football, in this instance hindsight is irrelevant. The result is already a matter of historical fact.
21.) 23 Aug 2015 10:40:45
Mourinho gets away with it because his team are the Champions so people think his mind games are working
I personally admired his handling of the media in his first spell but now I just see him as a pantomime villain - it's so over the top now it has become ridiculous
Think BR is just trying to mimic him
21 Jul 2024 23:38:38
Theslotmachine, I wouldn’t judge him based on the Portugal team given it was basically set up around Ronaldo, having said that Pepe had a pretty good tournament.
09 Jul 2024 07:05:00
Oh of course everyone dreams of team of Gallaghers LFC Mango, if they’re not dreaming of teams of Jordan Ibes ;) forgot Madrid, Barca, Bayern or any team are queuing up to sign Curtis Jones for £50-60m.
04 Jul 2024 21:01:29
Not sure Kelleher makes much sense unless they sell Pope. They just bought another GK from Forest the other day.
28 Jun 2024 13:33:47
Gunn and yet people in this thread are saying Chelsea didn’t make Musiala the player he is, Bayern did and they signed him at 16. Bit of a double standard there.
28 Jun 2024 09:23:34
Pretty sure Real initially agreed a free transfer for Mbappe years ago before he signed an extension (only for him to agree a massive increase in wages and signing on fee with PSG), then last summer bid something like £100-150m for him when he had a year left.
Why pay a rival club a huge fee when you can pay the player 50-80% of the fee as a signing on bonus once their contract runs out. Pretty sure most clubs engage in such behaviour.
06 Jul 2024 22:36:14
Kane, Bellingham and Foden have looked completely shot all tournament. Both Kane and Bellingham scored late last game but both been pretty poor. I’d even include Saka a bit tbf.
He’s been the brightest spark out of the 4 though and scored a great goal today. Think it’s more the tactics than the players tbf although those 3 are tired.
28 Jun 2024 12:38:39
The same with Bellingham. He had a good first half in game 1 and has looked dead on his feet for the other 2.5 games. He should have been rested too and others trusted in his place.
27 Jun 2024 08:07:50
PSG want him.
26 Jun 2024 08:27:08
Wasn’t Calafiori at Basel before Bologna?
20 Jun 2024 23:55:02
Rodrygo Goes Nowhere says Real Madrid