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06 Oct 2020 07:38:06
I know not Liverpool related, and I know the figures can be exaggerated, but I read that though Cavani signed on a free, the agent's fees are expected to come in lower than 10m euros. Can that be right, 10m in fees? What do they do for that money?


{Ed025's Note - the same as what mino raiola done for the pogba to united deal burkey...he raked in £42m for that one, so very little, these leeches are bleeding the game dry mate..

1.) 06 Oct 2020 09:16:49
That’s disgusting they need to be removed leeches is being polite.

2.) 06 Oct 2020 10:07:19
I really don't understand why they get so much money? what am I missing here? I don't get it at all. There should be some sort of cap on it.

{Ed002's Note - There are already rules concerning agents and there are plans to change them that will possibly come in to force next summer.}

3.) 06 Oct 2020 10:13:59
Well that's refreshing news Ed! a long time coming.

4.) 06 Oct 2020 10:57:11
I feel like I can add something here as I did meet mino once and had a chat with him. I think I've posted the conversation before but I'll give the broad strokes here.

From the perspective of an agent, they feel they are worth their money because their job is to get the best possible financial deal for their client. They believe they're the only ones solely focused on their clients finances (clubs largely want to use the players talent and would not be focused on finance at all )

He (mino) said "footballers career is short. They spend much while they play. Its my job to make sure when the career is finished they still have money to spend and don't need to work in supermarket. Why should I negotiate millions for my clients and peanuts for myself? "

He also alluded a few times to the fact many executives in football get paid huge sums.

I'm not saying that his view is 100% correct, because it's not. But it's also not wrong either. Before agents had the power they do now footballers were paid significantly less and many footballers even at pro level had no money beyond their career.

5.) 06 Oct 2020 11:10:16
I know! Perish the thought of a footballer having to work like the rest of us until their 60s!
Even Ed002 still works although I'm guessing that's just to keep him in the finest gin and cocktails 😉.

6.) 06 Oct 2020 12:04:12
Agents may try and get as much money for their clients as possible but they quite often ruin careers and advise players to go where the money is rather than what will be good for their development.
Would be good if agents gave players useful advise on what to do with their millions such as good Long term investments rather than watching them continuously burn through it and keeping them topped up, that’s not good for when the players career does end and they are still burning through it.

{Ed002's Note - The players get advised over money matters but there has been a recent trend with some younger players running wild. Clubs rather than agents take this responsibility.}

7.) 06 Oct 2020 12:55:29
Thanks Ed002. I do worry to hear of some young players running wild as you say, makes me worry what kind of mess their lives will be like when they Eventually get thrown into the real world. Hopefully clubs will start to get a grip on it and keep these youngsters grounded.

{Ed002's Note - They will fall back on the typical post-football trades of publican or insurance salesman.}

8.) 06 Oct 2020 13:43:20
IMO athletes get the raw end of the stick, no one ever says anything about Oprah raking in 100 millions for having a talk show or even Kelly Ripa who earns a million dollars for talking about what she had for dinner the previous night (Mainly U. S references as I am state side) . In regards to an agent, I have had the pleasure of knowing some when they were starting out it is rough. I had a buddy who was going to the colleges in the U. S and begging players to sign with him prior to going professional. Then investing their own money into the player such as creating a profile along with marketing material and preparation for the upcoming draft. They would get the player drafted and prior to negotiating a contract, he would get a termination letter from the client, where they would get minimal reimbursement for services rendered.

The average footballers career is 8 years, god forbid they get an injury or have any long term nagging injuries that will impact them for the rest of their lives. Just my opinion.

9.) 06 Oct 2020 20:20:26
Plus, you have to remember there are thousands of agents worldwide and it would be interesting to see what percentage make more than the average salary in their own countries. We only hear of the small minority no doubt who are making millions.

10.) 06 Oct 2020 20:27:59
Harry your not wrong, also when you compare to other entertainment industries the salaries aren't so disproportionate to the salaries earned. However, usually agents fees are capped, likewise commissions. The issue I see is in extortionate fees and whilst not privvy to the detailed info the sancho deal and pogba transfers seem v v high.

The issue of earnings I can give a small insight into. Footballers are second to only stockbrokers as the biggest idiots with their money! I wish I had more as clients. so many wouldn't need TV work to supplement earnings and then maybe michah r and jenas wouldn't have to work anymore :)

11.) 06 Oct 2020 22:46:24
It's amazing to see United's history if doing deals with raola and his clients costing the club so much money while the record of transfers being a successful investment is rather poor. Pogba, di Maria, falcao, myhkitarian, lukaku, ibrahimovich were all his clients if I'm not mistaken and he negotiated huge deals which couldn't have been kind to United's finances. Is there a reason he has extra joy working with United for example? Would personal friendships etc play a part to help him?

And then for example there's hardly any previous signings we attempt to pursue for players signed under his agency. Do clubs purposely ignore certain players due to simply not liking dealing with their representatives?



21 Feb 2018 07:15:43
Been busy for a few days so haven't checked site much. Did a quick search for Wanyama after seeing some links, but can't find anything from Ed001 and 002 specifically ruling out any interest. Please tell me the links are crap.


{Ed001's Note - I do not know of any interest in him from us at all. No idea where the links come from, but it sounds like manufactured crap because he once played for Southampton.}

1.) 21 Feb 2018 07:28:44
I would be extremely happy if we could bring him in. He will do a great job covering the back 4.None of the players we have right now is a defencive midfielder and from what i 've heard and read mostly neither is Keita (I 've seen very little of him to form an oppinion) . In any case it is a position that needs strengthening in the summer.

{Ed001's Note - but he is awful at the role, he is constantly caught out of position and it terrible on the ball. He is just a big, powerful lump with none of the mental attributes required to be a top level player. You need more than pace and power to be good at the role of defensive midfielder, positioning is the most important part of the job and he has not got a clue about it.}

2.) 21 Feb 2018 07:54:47
Who would be your preference Ed001 for defencive midfielder? I remember the Southampton Wanyama who was really dominant. Has he declined that much?

{Ed001's Note - he was crap there too, I don't know what you are remembering at all. He uses pace and power to make up for his own mistakes but it does not always work. He is just an average player who has risen too high for his limited talents. Southampton and Spurs have an extra body alongside him to provide cover for those lapses in concentration he has numerous times a game, so they can get away with him being asleep, we don't.

I do wonder why I bother answering questions like this as I have said already on a number of threads who my preferences are. Is there much point me constantly repeating them only to get asked the same question the following day?}

3.) 21 Feb 2018 08:32:19

stevie started the rumours about wanyama. and actually it's quite funny when you think about it. A+ for idnteifying we need to solidfy the midfield and then he gets an F for saying we need to bring in a big powerful midfielder like wanyama to do that.

4.) 21 Feb 2018 10:30:24
Very worrying for Gerrard's credentials as a future first team manager 🤔

Ed001 didn't actually say Ndidi by the way. For years he wanted Gary Medel and more recently he has suggested Nampalys Mendy as his preferred choice. He's playing well in Nice to be fair.

Ndidi is a player he's said he likes though, along with Obiang and Doucoure. It wasn't his suggestion though.

I still think Demirbay might be the "powerhouse" midfield signing though. He seems to be regarded as an attacking player by most on here, but he is actually very similar to Doucoure. He is fast and powerful which does allow him to break forward from deep to score and create goals, but he actually averages 2 tackles a game for Hoffenheim which is comparable to an out and out holding midfielder. He's over 6 foot, very aggressive, and can play the holding role, box to box, or the No.10.

He's very versatile, and brings much needed steel to the midfield. Most importantly, he is a player we are actually interested in though. Don't forget Keita too who is also very aggressive and contributes a lot defensively. Not many teams would want to face a trio of Keita, Henderson and Demirbay! That is a lot of pace and power, combined with high quality on the ball. Wanyama unfortunately lacks the quality side of things!

5.) 21 Feb 2018 11:20:34
For all wanyamas bad points.

Having someone 6ft, strong, uninterested in wandering up field and will just plonk his was between the two cbs for me is just what we need. It will allow keita, Hendo and the 3 amigos to run riot whilst having someone help us keep our defensive shape.

Also if he is relatively cheap it could be a wise move for a few seasons, maybe focus the rest of our budget on cb and qingback needs.

6.) 21 Feb 2018 12:17:36
his bad points are the very reason to steer clear, as van morrrison would say keep mediocrity at bay.

7.) 21 Feb 2018 13:07:49
Unbelievable people thinking plonking Wanyama in front of defence will improve the midfield. This is not under 10’s football.

8.) 21 Feb 2018 13:31:12
Not good but still managed that screamer against us lol. I don't think he's that bad but he is not good enough for us, especially in a defensive position.

9.) 21 Feb 2018 13:32:53
I've watched Wanyama start twice recently, against Newport County and Rochdale and he was woeful in both games against quite terrible opposition.

There is a reason why Dembele (an excellent player) and Dier (a distinctly average player) are ahead of him in the Spurs team. He is poor. He runs around a lot and is quite strong, and every now and then he hits s thunderbolt of a shot which everyone go "ooooo".

I hope we steer well clear. (if we are even interested at all. which I doubt)



15 May 2016 09:01:45
Hey Ed001. Any chance Ings could be on the bench? I know he's only just returned to training, just wondering.
Also, so happy for Suarez. I know he couldn't wait to move on, but he gave his all when wearing the shirt.


{Ed001's Note - they were hoping he would be fit to take at least some part in the game. I don't know, nor will I ask as the club a long time ago asked me not to give out team details prior to matches, whether that is still happening. I want the club to succeed first and foremost, so, as they said it was giving an advantage to the opposition, I am happy to steer clear of team sheets etc. Sorry, I know it is not ideal for the sites, but the club is more important to me.}

1.) 15 May 2016 10:12:13
Well done 001.

{Ed001's Note - it has to be done. The club are my first love after all!}

2.) 15 May 2016 10:21:50
Are team sheets/ news banned now? I hope so for the same reasons Ed01. The people it benefits most are the opposition.

{Ed001's Note - no mate, I just have no involvement in them.}

3.) 15 May 2016 10:32:10
I hope your wife to be isn't reading, ed. Lol.

{Ed001's Note - she knows mate.}

4.) 15 May 2016 12:17:01
I'd say Ed most of us here aren't to bothered about team sheets. It's who's coming and going that we are more interested in.

{Ed001's Note - it does make a huge difference to traffic if you can post them up, so it only applies for those here now, rather than those we could attract.}

5.) 15 May 2016 13:13:00
Thanks for doing that ed, that's completely the right thing to do! Come on reds let's get top 5 and build for next year.



15 Jan 2015 00:02:54
A week ago someone mentioned aussie keeper Matt Ryan. I see a couple of papers are suggesting we're interested. Heard anything Eds?
From the little I've seen he looks a decent keeper with good distribution and is quite vocal. Pulled off a blinding save last week in their first group game of the Asian cup, ball looked destined for the top corner.


{Ed001's Note - from what I have been told there has been an enquiry from us, that has been leaked to try and bring others who are interested out of the woodwork.}

1.) 15 Jan 2015 07:48:00
Ed001 - a leak from Ryan's management or from Bruges?

{Ed001's Note - Bruges, they are looking for more money.}

2.) 15 Jan 2015 08:23:01
Seen him in a few games now. Not sure if he is the real thing YET, as he seems to loose his head (Like Grobelaar), but the kids got a big talent for sure

3.) Thanks Ed001. Presumed that would be the case, but just wanted to check.

4.) 15 Jan 2015 09:22:31
This bloke is 5ft11 just as well puttin Warwick Davis between the sticks

5.) 15 Jan 2015 17:21:20
Completely agree, far too short for the premier league. We are the worst in Europe when it comes to scouting and transfersz



13 Aug 2013 06:40:34
Eds, I assume the ESPN rumour is of their usual reliability, surely we wouldn't pay 35mil for Willian? {Ed002's Note - They will be running with a story that is from elsewhere. As I have said, I am not aware of any interest in Willian from Liverpool at this time.}


1.) In our dreams

2.) If you look at his goal return its far from good and there are better options out there for half the price being mentioned.

Iker Muniain
Erik Lamela

3.) 13 Aug 2013 10:27:31
I saw him playing in the CL last season and he was spectacular, however £35m is way too much. £20-23m would be fair, I'm sure he'd shine at Liverpool and partnering up with Coutinho wouldn't hurt. Adding Willian, a solid CB and LB and it just might persuade Suarez that we'll be a top 4 team this season. {Ed002's Note - A bid of just under €40M has already been rejected.}

4.) Was that €40M bid before or after the Anzhi situation developed? Thanks. {Ed002's Note - It was 10 days ago when Anzhi were already looking to start to restructure their wage budget. It is also irrelevant to what they are asking for, although as we get closer to the window closing they will possibly be accepting less. There is interest in Willian from elsewhere and a prospective deal might just include a player or two on loan for the 2014-2015 season - and a lower cash sale.}

5.) Was that 40m offer from Man City Ed? {Ed002's Note - It was less than €40M and it was from Manchester City. It seems they have since dropped their interest - at least for now - after it was rejected.}

6.) We are aiming too high, we are not a big club anymore. Nobody of any stature/class wants to play for LFC.

7.) 40 million for a striker whos scored 40 goals in 274 appearances hardly seems worth it mind you a majority of his goals came from the ukrainian league which people were already concerned about when we were interested in Micky and he scored 25 goals whilst Willian scored 2 in his league 1 in the domestic cup and 4 in europe I really don't think he'd be worth it.

8.) 13 Aug 2013 17:10:37
Ed02 do you think there is any possibility Liverpool go for him or is he out of our reach? {Ed002's Note - I can't say - but it would cost a great deal of money.}

9.) 13 Aug 2013 17:42:08
We already have Coutinho.

10.) The Times Tony Barrett who so far has been fairly on the ball, is saying we have moved for him now.

11.) 13 Aug 2013 22:58:52
Ben smith and tony barrett say we are interested




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19 Apr 2021 10:23:31
Ed002. You and 001 are the go to guys when it comes to insight and knowledge. I've not commented re the 'super league'. What is your honest opinion on the motivation of the 'elite' sides? Is it just posturing as the likes of Lineker suggest, or do you realistically see these clubs carrying through with their plans?
I'm maybe not as interested as i once was as I've just bought land on a South Pacific island (Norfolk) with poor internet. That said, my heart will always be Liverpool and wish fsg pull their effing heads in.


{Ed002's Note - This proposal is not from the group of "elite" clubs that meet regularly to discuss broad-based issues and have been discussing the "breakaway" for some years, it is simply another option put on the table - in this case following up on a threat made by the owners of Liverpool and Manchetser United to create their own breakaway league. For now they want to replace the Champions League - last time they wanted to expand the Club World Cup. The driver is making money for both sets of owners by taking on huge debt funded by JP Morgan which is underwritten against future income. There are far better ideas out there already and some clubs just want leverage with UEFA. The "elite" clubs meet later this week - and that involves most of the clubs involved in this proposal. Personally, there will be a step change at some point - I doubt it is this, and if it is it could have catastrophic consequences for some of the clubs involved.}



01 Apr 2021 23:14:13
Sad for Curtis Jones after a nice goal to be sent off. Must admit a part of me loved seeing his passion and what it meant to him. Not sure what was said to rile him up so much, but couldn't help smile a bit.


1.) 02 Apr 2021 09:21:16
He was well stoked what ever was said he blew a gasket!

2.) 02 Apr 2021 12:48:42
I just watched it, doesn't look like anything in particular was said, he just didn't reacted badly to the Croatia players celebrating. Must have been hard to take, but it shouldn't have had to go to the final game to secure progress.

3.) 02 Apr 2021 14:03:12
If you watch the footage closely, at one point Cantwell makes gestures to suggest there were monkey noises being made. I think he may have been complaining to the referee but the clip cut away so quickly it was hard to make out.

4.) 02 Apr 2021 14:09:57
If that was the case Bobby, let Curtis loose I say.

5.) 02 Apr 2021 16:13:34
Yeah I didn't see that myself, but that's shocking if it is the case. Pathetic really isn't it.



11 Mar 2021 03:03:22
Fairly sure it's been mentioned on here that one reason Nat Phillips wasn't fancied by Klopp was his ball playing abilities.
Call me blind, but I think he's been pretty good on the ball. His forward passes have been better than Robbo's lately and although the odd long ball doesn't hit the mark, he's looked our best defender since Joe got injured.
Add to that his determination and willingness to go for every header and I think we've got a very capable home grown back up CB there.


1.) 11 Mar 2021 03:49:57
Brilliant to see Fabinho in midfield again, but a huge shout out has to go to Philips who did a fantastic job at CB, and who tackled, headed and cleared away numerous dangerous looking attacks. He’s not the prettiest footballer but he’s very very aggressive and effective, and he’s getting better at reading the game every week, which is what you really need in a CB. Alissons early diving save was also crucial, we could have been a nervous wreck had they scored early.

Good to be back on the scoreboard and hope we can continue the momentum into the PL.

2.) 11 Mar 2021 04:41:17
Ever since he got his first opportunity against West Ham you could see he was desperate to grab his chance with both hands.

He sure isn't the most technical player but he absolutely puts it all on the line and it's great to see a lad fighting like his Liverpool career depends on it.

Also pretty refreshing in my opinion to see a CB just get rid when he feels he is under pressure, i know playing out from the back is a huge part of the game nowadays but it's gone a bit OTT for my liking!

Made up for the lad.

3.) 11 Mar 2021 06:38:43
Hats off to Phillips he’s really stepped up to the mark and the lad loves a 50/ 50. The only concern I have with him is he also lives to go for a 60/ 40, 70/ 30 etc when they are not in his favour. The more he plays the more he will learn that sometimes jockeying a player is just as efficient as diving in to win it. But like I said I think he’s doing well. Kabak seems to look better (more come) every game also.

4.) 11 Mar 2021 06:54:36
More confident that’s meant to say 🤦🏻‍♂️.

5.) 11 Mar 2021 08:16:37
Phillips has proven himself I think and he is in the perfect position to do that. good age, played decent amount of first team footy already and always felt like he was at the right stage of his career to be helpful in our current barren run. Who knows why Klopp took so long to trust him, but am glad he is in the team now and also that Klopp has restored Fab to midfield. midfield is much closer to full strength now so we aren't operating the machine at 1/ 3 capacity.

6.) 11 Mar 2021 08:26:37
Someone said on the live chat last night that Phillips’s is like carra and I have to agree. He’s not the most best on the ball but he gives everything.

7.) 11 Mar 2021 08:55:27
I agreed with that too Long, think it was Scootinio said that. Just a no nonsense defender who does the job.

8.) 11 Mar 2021 10:50:06
He’s a no nonsense defender who’d run through walls of asked. He’s not afraid of a challenge and sticks his head on almost everything that comes into the box. I think he’s a good defender, if his only fault is that he’s a bit limited and basic as a footballer, that’s fine, I can think of many good defenders who were equally as limited footballing ability wise, but were just good at defending, I think he’s got to be given an extension and made one of our centre back choices.

9.) 11 Mar 2021 12:42:54
6Times, in that case regarding Phillips basic abilities, you pair him with a more cultured footballer at CB to hide his flaws.



20 Feb 2021 23:06:54
I'm a pretty optimistic person but even I'm looking at the table and shaking my head. If the teams below us which have games in hand win them, we could be in ninth.
Apart from getting turned by richarlison in the lead up to the 'penalty', I thought Phillips looked the more steady cb. I know it's been said that Klopp doesn't see him as a ball player, but he looks the best of who's available at the moment.
Has anyone ever seen a ref take such little time to review on the pitch side monitor? What's the point in the var guy suggesting he have a second look if all he does is see one thing to justify his poor decision?


1.) 20 Feb 2021 23:48:49
I think Phillips played pretty well too. It was never a penalty as you say, but I don't think it mattered much. The performance was lethargic on the whole, several need a good kick up the ass imo.

The impression I got of the pitch side 'review' was that he had to at least occupy that area momentarily as the VAR told him to, so arrogant.

I stopped looking at the table weeks ago mate, unfortunately it looks like the players have followed suit as they didn't show any urgency at all today.

2.) 20 Feb 2021 23:51:52
That ‘penalty’ decision is extraordinary - he basically ran into the back of Trent.

Most of all I’m still surprised we haven’t seen a change of shape from Klopp - Mane or Salah at striker for a start, or perhaps a 4-2-3-1. We have been trying to play a midfield 3 with Hendo/ Fabinho and to play our front three into form for weeks with the same old results week in, week out.



31 Jan 2021 22:51:30
Over the past few weeks there have been a number of threads that many of us frankly found embarrassing. Posters declaring the season has gone and we won't even make top 4.
There were then also posts that clearly had a bit more experience and time behind them. Posts where we stated what we believed this was, a dip in form. We'd been here before and this was nothing new to us. We pointed out the difficulties in this season and also the unbelievably consistent run this team has been on for best part of 3 years. We said that even if we don't win a thing this season it takes nothing away from what Klopp has done with these mentality monsters.
And this brings me to my main point.
There is a difference between a "fan" and a "supporter" of Liverpool. Fans come and go. They switch their allegiance to City and change their username once a month. They bemoan that we haven't demolished every team we come up against.
Then there are supporters. We've been through some awful times, both on field and off. We've cried tears of joy and intense sadness. We've faced the ridicule and disgusting songs of the opposition (I know we are guilty of this too) .
But, we stand by our team, our club, our City too. We sing YNWA when 3 nil down at half time. We don't scream the season is over at the halfway point.
Be a supporter. You have every right to your opinon, but don't merely be a "fan".


1.) 31 Jan 2021 23:13:21
Great post burkeyboy couldn’t agree more.



2.) 31 Jan 2021 23:22:07
Truth is that City will probably walk it. They’re 4 points ahead with a hand in hand and don’t look like dropping points. The champions league is going to be tough without van Dijk, and although we’ve stopped the rot, January has pretty much finished our chances of winning the league, we’ll only win if City have a serious drop in form, and given they’re winning games easily without DeBruyne it’s a very slim hope indeed. So simply calling it as it is, that that chances of winning the league are gone, isn’t being less of a fan than those who are holier than thou.

3.) 31 Jan 2021 23:24:29
BB I will put my hand up and say I posted at least twice to say cancel the season now. All I can say is that it was a typical knee jerk reaction post and I did apologise soon after I posted. In fairness Ed025 and some of the regular posters just said to calm down and see what happens and guess what they were totally right lads YNWA.

4.) 01 Feb 2021 00:02:19
Is this another of those "I told you so, look how right I was" posts? They're almost as bad as the posts from the people saying how they knew we should have signed a centre back. its a public forum where fans can share opinions and banter. If people want to vent let them, doesn't mean they're less of a fan. Can't we just go back to rumors from someone's nans hairdresser?

5.) 01 Feb 2021 00:05:32
My point is not just about those that pointed out our situation recently and saw it as all over, but that support involves the good and the bad, the ups and downs. Some of the reactions seemed way over the top for me, that's the point. 6times, you probably illustrate in your response my exact point. You still focussed on the situation right now without seeing my broader point. Nothing wrong with your view. I agree to an extent. When we lost VVD i thought we'd do well to finish second. I still think that. That doesn't matter when it comes to those fans that threw their toys out of the pram and were pretty hard on players. Trent got a tough time for a few weeks on this site. Trent. The kid that took that corner that it could be argued led to you being able to have that username 6times.

6.) 01 Feb 2021 00:09:49
6 times did you not see City yesterday? They laboured after being gifted an early goal and Fleck very nearly equalised at the end.
My point is City have shown on numerous occasions this season that they are capable of dropping points. They are not the team they were a couple of years ago.
Klopp has worked absolute wonders this season with the hand he’s been dealt. No other team, City included could have coped with losing their 2 starting centre backs with the back ups also intermittently being injured for periods.
January has been a blip, a dip in form but the season is far from over and we are coming up with the answers once more.
I think it’s crazy talk to assume anyone will walk it this year and we are right in the mix despite everything. I for one will keep believing.

7.) 01 Feb 2021 00:14:44
BB I think with a lot of fans like 6times and a few of my mates actually it’s kind of a defence mechanism. It’s much easier to say it’s all over and we don’t stand a chance just so if we don’t win the league the impact isn’t so hard. They can just say I told you so.
It’s much easier to be negative than positive as a negative mind can’t be disappointed. When it all goes wrong they can bask in the glory of being right.
Then if we do win it they can still join the victory parade!

8.) 01 Feb 2021 00:55:29
I’m a believer.

{Ed002's Note - I loved the Monkees.}

9.) 01 Feb 2021 01:07:52
I used to like the show Ed002, however out of fear of ageism I was keeping quiet! Remembering Rob Jones' debut (and career) has put me in the spotlight.

10.) 01 Feb 2021 04:13:30
'Some of the reactions seemed way over the top for me' I completely agree with this.

Some posters have criticised the team and that I have absolutely no issue with and you'll find some of these posters are with Liverpool through thick and thin, they'll just put some constructive criticism out there which of course they are more than entitled to, especially when we were doing so bad!

Unfortunately then you get the other side of it, the posters who never post when we're doing well. The type of posters who like to bring up irrelevant statistics. The posters who blamed every single person in the club! lol I find it quite amusing I must admit. I don't mind if somebody says 'the season is over' if they feel that way then that's absolutely fine but what I don't like to see is people questioning Klopp, the players and the club, that combination made us the most successful we've been for years yet a certain few are far too quick to forget that.

Every team has off streaks, this is a sport, it happens and none of us are going to be chuffed when it happens. Who knows, we may have just had a lucky couple of games and we might be back to square one against Brighton. That's football, it happens and we support the club no matter what.

It's guaranteed though, IF we were to lose on Wednesday, we'd see the doom and gloomers come back out!

Anyway, since the beginning of the season I have said Liverpool will win the league. I stand by that, I sincerely believe we'll do it all I'd go back on is, I said we'd be miles ahead on top, I doubt that's going to happen. We've seen City have their bad streak, I don't think they will have another this season, they will come very close but I reckon we'll snatch it.

11.) 01 Feb 2021 05:41:02
I think City will win the league at a canter. But I have also got a gut feeling we will win the UCL and salvage this season.

12.) 01 Feb 2021 05:55:40
My issue is that we have all seen far worse times as Liverpool supporters, even the younger supporters must remember Rodgers last full season or the Hodgson days. I remember during the Houllier era Liverpool not winning for 11 league games. This team is too good not to fix the problems they had and surely they have earned our trust but a handful of bad games and the vultures turn on the team. That’s not support.

13.) 01 Feb 2021 07:26:19
It seems you are not allowed to criticise a player for having a bad game either these days. Yesterday I said origi was a passenger and was offering nothing and got slated. it is just me or is this a site where you can have an opinion and discuss it? Some people are so quick to jump on a comment. calling it an embarrassing post! Really? What's more embarrassing is the fact they couldn't disagree in an intelligent way or debate it. People are turning into snow flakes on here, and quite frankly it's boring. I've been on here for years, seen some great times and some really funny stuff. Proper old school rumours. When Macca was about etc. until he got hounded out by these sort of people. Lighten up people, there is more to life than football and trying to belittle peoples views.

14.) 01 Feb 2021 09:13:14
J6 you’re missing my point. Reasoned critique is fine. Declaring the season is gone and we won’t even make top 4 is just ridiculous and shows the fickle nature of some fans these days. These posts often go on to slate the owners/ club for not splashing the cash and even question klopps ability to turn things around.

15.) 01 Feb 2021 09:39:33
Well J6 for me you were correct. I thought Origi was a waste of a shirt yesterday. I also said I'd thought we'd lose with the team Klopp picked, and that I hoped I'd be proved wrong, which I was.

No harm in that.

Keep on posting your honest opinions and don't worry about the point scoring 'I know better than you' posters.

16.) 01 Feb 2021 09:47:59
I notice the only people who talk about 'I know better than you' are the ones who constantly moan about anything they can and because not everyone agrees with them, they look at it as a competition, it's embarrassing really. I think if you read this thread properly KBL it's not about who knows better.

17.) 01 Feb 2021 11:09:53
Great to see everyone getting on after 2 magnificent wins 🙈🙈. Come on chaps, we should be better than this👍👍.

18.) 01 Feb 2021 12:27:08
That sounds a different dig from, "you've never been Anfield, call yourself a supporter" or your not even from Liverpool, your not a real fan, classy.

19.) 01 Feb 2021 14:42:26
Salah - it shouldn't be about calling people's opinions embarrassing or fickle fans either.

This is called a Banter site, not an insult site.

We are all supporters, or fans - no difference in my opinion, and as human beings we all react in our own way to things that are not going too well. It's not all of us who can keep our feelings and thoughts in check and be calm all the time.

I bet there are loads of LFC posters who post straight after a bad result only to regret what they've posted when their feelings subside.

We should be used to the ups and downs especially when you have supported this team since the early 60s like me, but the fire I have in my belly for this team sometimes takes a while to cool.

20.) 01 Feb 2021 16:53:56
Burkey boy, I didn't miss the point mate, my post wasn't in reference to yours pal, just meant in general. Irish Rover was one of the culprits actually who called my opinion embarrassing on origi. just thought it was a silly comment to make. But there you go.




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21 Sep 2020 04:15:21
So we’re all talking about a CB, but Eds, do we know of any actual solid interest in any? I’m hoping you won’t say Carlos.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of anything different to what has been discussed I am afraid.}



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03 Jul 2019 08:44:08
Not sure you're getting it tobi.




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26 Jun 2019 00:52:19
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more, say no more. Bit of a goer is she? Well, yes, she does go. Bit of a sport? Yes, she like sport.
So, you've had sex then have you? Well, yes.
What's it like?

Sorry, for python fans.




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10 Jun 2019 23:19:52
Ed025 you clearly are not on here enough for people to get that scouse sense of humour mate. What are you doing with your time? Actually don't answer that, there are some things in life you just don't want to know.


{Ed025's Note - people tend to get too serious at times burkey, life is too short for seriousness all the time so im here to lighten the mood mate, hell im an evertonian for gods sake and spend most of my time crying so i come on here for respite and a way to vent my frustration, most people get me and some dont and they are the ones that make it all worthwhile.. :)



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17 May 2019 06:32:19
Can't be Walter he used the noun "we". Then again, it's only a few days after the league finished and plenty of time before the CL final for him to flip again.





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19 Apr 2021 07:47:19
Save some exclamation points for later :)




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07 Apr 2021 04:07:31
Faithinworks good news, about to book a flight to your side of the ditch :)




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06 Apr 2021 23:55:21
If the stadium was full I'd agree. But it's not and we've played like a different team at home for a year. Why will that change?




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06 Apr 2021 22:00:53
Mark, can't agree they deserve to win by more. Yes they were good, but only because we allowed then to be. We gifted them a goal and the others were soft. We were much better second half and could easily have scored another.




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02 Apr 2021 14:09:57
If that was the case Bobby, let Curtis loose I say.