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28 Mar 2023 12:10:29
Seems that a number of Dutch critics are being quite vocal about VVD. Probably with some justification.

Time for him to answer in the best way possible, on the pitch!


1.) 28 Mar 2023 12:59:37
He doesn’t seem to take criticism well. He needs a massive kick up the arse imo. Deserves to be dropped but we don’t Have anyone to take his position unfortunately.

2.) 28 Mar 2023 13:08:20
He is past it and has become a liability but is still better than any of our other defenders. We are in a bit of trouble back there tbh my local under 12’s could cut through our defence with ease so it’s no surprise we have had such a shocker this season.

3.) 28 Mar 2023 13:15:44
We should sell Virgil and sign Gvardiol in my opinion. Be ruthless and move forward. Fabinho too. Their forms fallen off a cliff and at their age it's more or less sell now, or lose for nothing later.

4.) 28 Mar 2023 14:24:13
If you watch the game Van Basten is moaning about France one he's not at fault for any of the goals, yes he deserves criticisms because by his elite standards he's been poor this year but the game there on about he literally could do nothing about any of the goals.

5.) 28 Mar 2023 14:46:37
Sell VVD but not Matip/ Gomez?
Or sell VVD and Matip/ Gomez?

That’s a lot of replacements at central defence if it’s the latter, coupled with the overhaul of the midfield.

Do some people think this is football manager?

6.) 28 Mar 2023 15:01:57
Criticism of our defence is completely justified they have been awful on many occasions but are they any worse the the rest apart from Alison.
The protection from the midfield gone awol and press from the front poor.
It’s not individuals it’s the poor tactics we are pushing that the players are struggling to adapt too.

7.) 28 Mar 2023 15:33:43
I don't agree that we should sell him - yet. I agree that he's been poor this season but I don't think his issues are physical.

I wonder if he's had a decent psychologist working with him since the bad injury. He may well have got through last season adrenaline but I wonder if he's really done the psychological work to get over that injury.

The constant "we're not robots" narrative appears to be seeping out of all corners of the squad. Clearly the squad are doubting themselves. Something that Klopp needs to get on top of asap.

8.) 28 Mar 2023 16:08:42
I did a quick tabulation.
Errors leading to goals in liverpool premier league's games.
Expectedly, TAA top the chart.
VVD is actually nor far behind.

I think he is past his best, no doubt.
He is probably still a better paring for either of the remaining 3 CB. So, I say sell Matip, and get a top class replacement so that VVD can be phased out.
Beside, TAA's problem need to be first resolved.

9.) 28 Mar 2023 16:29:33
it makes me laugh when everyone says sell this player or sell that player, For every player that leaves or is sold it means another has to come in to replace them. plus if you rip th eheart out of a team in one go it will take time to recover and build that ethic again, This is where we have failed in not bringing in 2 players a year in and replacing gradually. We won't be able to replace the whole midfield and then the whole defence which a lot of folk sound like they want. Hopefully we will get some players in over the summer but VVD won't be sold or Trent. YNWA.

10.) 28 Mar 2023 16:43:25
Sell Matip and get Ndicka on a free would be my next choice, Gingerlfc. I'd actually be happy with that to be honest.

Signing Gvardiol is not feasible by selling Matip or Gomez though is it. Come on. That's a very silly suggestion. Neither of them will be valued at much more than £10-20m and their wages aren't as high as Virgil's either. Plus they're effectively 3rd and 4th choice for us. Why would Gvardiol come to be 3rd or 4th choice? Konate or Virgil would have to go and as Gvardiol is better on the left side Van Dijk makes more logical sense. Even then it might not be enough, such is the high valuation of Gvardiol.

If anyones been playing football manager it's you mate. Sounds like you've been putting in cheats as well if you're getting enough money for Matip to sign Gvardiol!

Personally I don't rate any of our centre backs. Konate could come good if he stays fit and puts a run together to iron out all the mistakes. Gomez and Phillips are bang average. Virgil and Matip are past it. It's not really sensible to change them all in one summer, but if Gvardiol was the incoming player only Virgil makes sense as the player to make way.

11.) 28 Mar 2023 18:03:11
Let's give Virgil our backing he as been brilliant for our club and can get back to his best, he had a really bad injury when he did his ACL but let's not chuck him under the bus, also maybe not having a regular partner like Konate who picks up niggles and misses games as effected virgil as well. Virgil cand become great again, also any defender can look bad when the protection in front is bad and let's face it our defence as had none from players like Fabinho, Virgil is a great player and will get back to his best, let's back him.

12.) 28 Mar 2023 18:47:37
Matip for N’Dicka a couple of Midfielders to replace Ox and Keita and then see how we get on next season after a proper rest and pre-season. Then swap out players as needed in the following windows. I think too much too soon could be counter productive.

I think the comment about someone’s U12’s team cutting open Liverpool’s defence sounds like it’s come from an U12 year old by the way. Very childish comment.

13.) 28 Mar 2023 18:48:50
I am with you Mighty. I think he and perhaps a couple of other players need some psychological help this summer.

14.) 28 Mar 2023 18:49:22
Your argument is very strong @MK. For certain I will sell Fabinho. He is finished and I don’t see how anyone wants to give him another year. On VVD he is on a declining path but his game can be managed as he is vocal, leader and still has got a bit in him. We need to sigh Gvardiol regardless mate.

15.) 28 Mar 2023 18:58:40
Sorry to have say this but VVD and matip have had to cover a right back that has lost his way and they are being left to look over the hill until that is sorted no center backs would be able to keep out forwards or long balls over our right full backs shoulder from any team.

16.) 28 Mar 2023 19:06:07
If its a case of if you have a bad season you are sold, then we might as well sell the whole team and start again. Not one player has shown any fight or that they deserve to be there.

We just need to get to the end and start again. I don't agree with getting rid of VVD, he is still a brilliant player, as is Trent.

Let reset bring in a couple of players and see where we are. I would like to see Trent moved into midfield though with a new RB coming in.

17.) 28 Mar 2023 20:18:02
Having grown up with Crazy Horse, Jockey, Lawro etc, I can categorically say that even at 75% of his peak, Virgil is still our greatest Centre Back and one of the world’s best. Love that Gvardiol grew up a Red with his Dad, but the ideal scenario would be to pay his release clause in summer ‘24. Virgil can switch to the right if needs be, but will still be up there.

{Ed025's Note - crazy horse was a midfielder, i dont know who jockey is and lawro was half decent joe, hansen and hyypia were far better than VVD for me mate..

18.) 28 Mar 2023 20:27:06
Last 6 premier league games aggregate goal difference is 13-1 so chill out guys. We need 2 midfielders to press and help the defence in the summer - spend all the transfer kitty + sales proceeds on 2 midfielders. Sort out the defence the following Jan or summer 2024 or at most sell Matip and bring in one central defender if funds allow.

19.) 28 Mar 2023 20:49:29
Thanks Ed 25. Always enjoy your comments and good natured views at our “ socialist moral crusade”. Incidentally, I thought Fat Rat and Paul McGrath were the best centre backs of the 80s and either would be a perfect partner with VVD in an all time X1.

{Ed025's Note - hi joe, Paul McGrath cant enter that race for me mate because of his injury record, Franz Beckenbauer was the best i have ever seen closely followed by the late great Bobby Moore and Brian Labone, im afraid them 3 make VVD look like Harry Maguire..

20.) 28 Mar 2023 22:34:17
I think Jockey is Alan Hansen Ed 25 ??.

{Ed025's Note - oh right, never heard him called that mate, maybe its because he is a sweaty sock?..

21.) 29 Mar 2023 01:18:23
You people are crazy! We had an horrendus season filled with a lot of injuries, loss of form, fatigue, the loss of a key player (Mane), New players coming in, noises about selling the club and really bad luck in front of the goal.
We have to support the players and we don't need to sell our key players only those that don't play much.
We need a replacement for Keita and OX because both are leaving on free. Firmino replacement is Gakpo so we don't need any new forward. The defense it's ok unless Gomez wants to leave or Matip wants a new challenge we don't need any new defender. Milner contract should be renew because the experience and passion he brings to this team is irreplaceble.
My favorites choices to replace OX and Keita are Bellingham and Mason Mount.

22.) 29 Mar 2023 02:31:45
Who is fat rat?

23.) 29 Mar 2023 07:59:15
“ Signing Gvardiol is not feasible by selling Matip or Gomez though is it. Come on. That's a very silly suggestion. ”

Not my suggestion though is it?
You’re the only one suggesting selling VVD and signing Gvardiol here.
As pointed out that either means NOT selling Matip/ Gomez which would be weird to keep them if we’re going to sell a centreback or 2 OR selling VVD AND Matip/ Gomez which means having to replace 2/ 3 centrebacks in the same summer as a midfield overhaul. So yea that sounds like football manager type fantasy stuff.

But you knew exactly what I was saying and went ahead and tried to misrepresent me anyhow.

24.) 29 Mar 2023 07:09:17
Emlyn Hughes was a Defender Ed 25.He could play anywhere as Shanks once famously said, and did play sometimes in midfield. but for Liverpool and England he more often or not played left back or left half. Early days and then settled playing left side of a back 2.But you will find that Emlyn Hughes as the Liverpool and England Captain was a centre back. for England he took Booby Moore's places at the back and as Captain.
Another stat for you he was the most capped England player throughout the seventies and that was even with him being dropped by Don Revie for 2 years.
One of my favourite players and a born leader. could say some silly things at times, but he was a great player and captain.

{Ed025's Note - i seen him more as a defensive midfielder woh but i could be mistaken, loved his energy and enthusiasm....but when he came out with his infamous "liverpool are magic everton are tragic" speech in 1977 he became figure of hate for the blues fans, there was no need for it mate and things like that contributed to the divide between reds and blues in the city, that european night should have been about liverpool and liverpool only, i always seen him as a 24 carat prick after that..

25.) 29 Mar 2023 10:07:02
I agree Gingerlfc. Selling vvd for Gvardiol is a huge risk considering the other 3 centre backs are massively injury prone.

VVD deserves another season. He’s not been great but no one bar alisson has this season has been. I like Gvardiol but as someone else suggested, we need to fix our midfield first and that should be a priority. If VVDs form continues then fine we should look to sell but for now I think/ hope he can recover with some more protection in front of him.

26.) 29 Mar 2023 14:58:04
Emlyn was only reiterating what the had Kop sang about EFC for years before he said that.

27.) 30 Mar 2023 09:27:40
amazing how quick people here will turn on our own players.

also amazingly immature and naïve to then also jump to conclusions about a player's character, mentality etc etc.

{Ed025's Note - i think you have to say what you see faith, if a player dives all the time then he is a serial cheat, one who doesn,t chase back to help his teammates is a lazy sod, and if they keep missing chances then they are just crap, that ethos has got me though life mate..

28.) 30 Mar 2023 20:06:18
I think some of the comments on here are just mental
I think the problem that the team are suffering from is that when our best players have a dip in form which a lot of top top players do from time to time we have no one of the same quality to step in to give them a rest and let them get mentally and physically be the best version of themselves . I just think the team has had 3 seasons of finishing a point behind city after giving their absolute all nearly getting the holy grail last year and playing every game available the physical and mental fatigue in that alone . It’s effected us as a team and a few of the generals in the team are not at their best and it’s affecting everyone. Squad needs a freshen up not a major overhaul in 1 window let’s refresh over a few windows to try keep some constants going.




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12 Jul 2024 10:35:58
No wonder Bajcetic has had injury problems! I just read that the poor guy has grown 6" in height over 12 months. Ouch .


1.) 12 Jul 2024 10:57:13
Anyone know if he's fit and been able to take part in pre-season so far?

2.) 12 Jul 2024 11:05:30
It's better for him, but yeah that's quite a growth spurt.

3.) 12 Jul 2024 12:16:45
I can't wait to see him playing again. I believe he has been 'fit' for a while but the club were just being super careful to not put unnecessary stress on his body. He was training at the back end of last season and I think he even made the bench a few times.

Hopefully with no setbacks he should be raring to go in preseason!

4.) 12 Jul 2024 12:50:46
Am tall as well and had growing pains a lot in my teens so I can understand what he’s going through. Am sure he will be good this season. Looking forward to seeing him a lot more.

5.) 12 Jul 2024 13:34:10
How tall is he now, that's quite a growth spurt!
I read United actually tried signing him but it fell through because they asked his dad to remove him from Celta Vigo so they'd pay less compensation, but he refused and pulled the plug.

6.) 12 Jul 2024 14:29:17
He can be our very own Palinha.

7.) 12 Jul 2024 14:49:24
You can see him in the youtube video greeting Salah in the gym, when Salah rejoined.

8.) 12 Jul 2024 14:54:18
Looking online, he seems to be around 6'3", 6'4" now - could be our own powerhouse when he fills out too!

9.) 12 Jul 2024 15:11:13
He's no use if he's going to continue coming into training late.

10.) 12 Jul 2024 15:18:40
The steroids must have done something then.

11.) 12 Jul 2024 15:20:40
This may be on the wrong page but I’ve heard on good authority from a fella connected to the club that the Chicago Bulls have made a $200 million dollar offer for him.

Their scouts are saying that by the end of 2024 he could be 7ft 2.

12.) 12 Jul 2024 16:29:11
You're on fire today Crieff!

13.) 12 Jul 2024 16:47:46
I could do with growing a couple more inches. ?.

14.) 12 Jul 2024 17:16:16
Exactly what your missus said LFC8.

15.) 12 Jul 2024 18:16:29
Them inhalers that we’ve been cheating with are finally working again now then . ?.

16.) 12 Jul 2024 19:22:44
I think if we bring in a DM he could end up on loan to play every week. In 12 months time then when he comes back we move Endo on.

17.) 12 Jul 2024 21:41:43
If he's really 6'3" or 6'4" now, I'm thinking something completely different. We could have one of the most versatile ball-playing, hard-tackling, long range passing, good in the air, future CB's in the league. Let's not forget that's where he played for most of his time at the academy. ?.

18.) 12 Jul 2024 22:59:45
That’s what i was getting at Zed ?.

19.) 13 Jul 2024 00:54:35
Puts him at risk of Osgood Schlatters disease.
Henderson suffered from that. It can be very painful.

20.) 13 Jul 2024 10:45:31
LFC8 and Zed, that’s why I was careful to add “in height”. I knew the banter levels would have gone stratospheric if I had put “Bajcetic gains 6””! Haha.



13 Jan 2024 22:31:48
Khvicha Kvaratskhelia at Napoli is available and they are desperate for cash. Would love to see us attempt to buy him.


1.) 13 Jan 2024 22:46:38
Wondering what the purpose would be tho? We have loads of attackers who play his position and no sign of anyone leaving?

2.) 13 Jan 2024 22:48:42
OP, he plays on the left as a right footer so is he coming in to replace Diaz then in your view? I ask this cos if he is coming to replace Salah then that won't work except we are going to play with a right footer on the right rather than a left footer on the right you know, like Salah has been doing.

3.) 13 Jan 2024 23:45:46
More so than what is the players preferred foot, we would need a winger with lots of pace that runs in behind and is a goal threat.

Kvara is good but he is not that.

4.) 14 Jan 2024 14:03:45
Khvicha Kvaratskhelia can walk into our front 3 no problem. Only Salah can match him. If he is available, Klopp should get him.

5.) 14 Jan 2024 14:21:33
12 assists and 10 goals last season, a title winning season. He is well grounded and settled in his personal life.

There is a quality player in there. Klopp can unlock his full potential and I don’t understand this obsession with playing left-footed players on the right and vice versa but if that is absolutely the way we must play then maybe he is not a good fit after all.

I think Klopp and Lijnders have slightly adapted their approach this season and I think there is room for him.

We still do not have a player who can have a defender on toast like Salah used to. Both Nunez and Diaz use pace to power past, they don’t really bamboozle a defender with their dribbling. Kvaratskhelia does.

6.) 14 Jan 2024 22:14:40
We need two of the front three to run in behind and behave like strikers. That's the way it knits best together and we always had it.

We have Jota, Nunez and Salah do this.

Gakpo and Diaz don't really. They come short most of the time. Not always of course but more often than not.

I fail to see how kvara is going to replace Salah effectively. Unless you people see him as Diaz's replacement.

7.) 15 Jan 2024 10:17:22
Napoli have a decent striker that they can cash in for at 100 million if they ever need cash.

8.) 15 Jan 2024 10:24:56
Napoli desperate for cash? News to me, Kvara going nowhere unless it's for a pant wettingly large fee. Inter and Juve on the other hand are in troubled times.

9.) 15 Jan 2024 11:01:12
Davey Sulls, my point exactly. If Salah is the one to be replaced then except you want to convince Khavaratskhelia to play on the right where he has never played since he moved to Napoli, I don't see the need for him either. Now if you want to move Diaz then, that is another issue which I don't think is being entertained anytime soon, IMO.



19 Nov 2023 11:51:05
I really hope we are going for a No. 6.

Endo is not the player I was hoping he would be, his lack of pace is alarming and his last minute lunges as a result of this are not great. He cannot be relied upon.

McAllister also suffers from a lack of pace and also lunges in unnecessarily. He is not a natural number 6 and is a square peg. He should not be relied upon. Even in a double pivot.

Thiago - Great in a double pivot. Never available. Cannot be relied upon.

TAA in midfield? Not for me. He needs to be told to stay at RB and focus on becoming the best RB he can be.

Bajcetic appears to be our best option as a 6 but what is his natural position? Cannot be relied upon currently due to injuries.

We need a spine and out weak link is DM. Who is everyone's preferred option (s)? I personally would be looking for someone as close to Makelele as we can find.


1.) 19 Nov 2023 12:37:05
Definitely Trent can't and I say shouldn't play as a No6 destroyer, but I have no doubts about his ability as a deep lying playmaker. But there's no position like that currently in our team. I also think he's wasted a bit at right back too, now that teams have learnt how to play against the tactics that made us the best side.

2.) 19 Nov 2023 13:15:57
I reckon makelele could still do a job, he was fantastic.

3.) 19 Nov 2023 13:31:30
We need a Dm who can also play with the ball.

Pointless having a destroyer against teams where we have 70% plus possession and have to try and break them down with 9 outfield players.

4.) 19 Nov 2023 15:43:02
I was worried when we signed him but got hammered for saying so. It made no sense at all with the 2 players we were going for then going for 30+ year old that has just played for relegation fighting team. It for me was a panic signing after all the mess towards the end off the window. I would love the lad from Fulham but his price and age make you think we should look elsewhere. Andre might be the one but I’ve not seen anything apart from that final but it does look like he is the number 6 for Brazil going forward so at the price be quoted looks like a risk worth taking.

5.) 19 Nov 2023 16:35:14
How about converting Quansah or Gomez to be no.6 until right player is found?

6.) 19 Nov 2023 17:16:30
Leek, that's a bit like getting a plumber in to do your electrics.

7.) 19 Nov 2023 18:14:52
@Rome, a good, intelligent player can adapt. Didn't Henderson play right back before? Didn't Milner play leftback too? Wasn't Salah converted from winger to centre forward?

8.) 19 Nov 2023 19:27:01
Macca is fine as a 6 with Trent stepping in next to him.

For all the hyperbole about Macca not being capable we are currently 2nd with the best defensive record in the league, unbeaten with 10-11 men on the pitch, and even with 9 it took the worst VAR decision ever and a 95th minute own goal.

9.) 19 Nov 2023 19:36:31
We had the chance to buy one @Manuel Ugarte, didn’t had the money. I would argue we need a top class DM. Not another guy who likes to play the ball. We need someone to stop an attack and win the first ball. We have enough who can pin a pass.
Juts go and get Lavia. He ain’t getting a sniff and Klopp loves him.

10.) 19 Nov 2023 20:21:33
Habibi - Not true, Klopp messed up with his tapping up antics with Sporting refusing to do business with us.

11.) 19 Nov 2023 20:55:20
Mac Alllister isn’t a number 6 and it shows, he’s trying his best, but it’s robbing Peter to pay Paul. As for playing Gomez or Quansah as a defensive midfielder that’s about as daft an idea as playing Salah as a centre back. Until we buy a really good out and out defensive midfielder we’ll probably fall short in the league. It was signing Fabinho that changed us from also rans to champions league winners and league champions and it’s that kind of signing that’ll make the difference again.

12.) 19 Nov 2023 21:35:59
Nice one, Drogie. Now as for the DM role, Klopp and the staff clearly wants some creativity in whoever plays the role whether it be Macca or an actual DM so in the end whoever we get, has to be able to do both very well. We have seen Endo can make line-breaking tackles lots of times so clearly, the coaches think that is what we need.

And as for having Gomez or Quansah trained to play there, that's just absolute nuts cos Quansah is still learning hos to play CB at this level while saddling Gomez who is already our most verstile defender with having to learn another role makes no sense at all.

13.) 19 Nov 2023 22:14:32
Just give endo a run. It’s his position. He getting to know the team. I’d start him over Macalister, who by chance after a greater number of games hasn’t pulled up any trees yet either.

14.) 19 Nov 2023 22:33:32
We have needed a top no6 for 2 seasons now. If we had one last season, we wouldn’t be playing LASK In our next European game. Stop trying to justify not buying one by shoe horning random players in there and hoping they do ok. For me, it’s a very important position to get right. Leicester won the league and that was probably down to the fact that they had a world class CDM. Give me a top no6 who can read the game and break up play, tackle and do all the dirty work that usually goes unnoticed, over any other signing in the summer. I don’t think Andre is that player either, he looks more like a Thiago replacement from the limited reviews and clips I have seen. A deep laying play maker, rather than a solo no6.

15.) 20 Nov 2023 04:23:33
Habibi - Not true, Klopp messed up with his tapping up antics with Sporting refusing to do business with us.

Sporting couldn’t do a feck if the buying club activated his release clause.

16.) 20 Nov 2023 06:16:18
Did Ugarte even have a release clause though? I thought Ignacio was the one that had a release clause. Besides, even if Ugarte did, it doesn't look good if we ignored Sporting after playing around and unsettling their players. It would make it much worse for us in the future if we want to do business with them or other clubs again. And it's untrue that we didn't have money since we did go in for both Lavia and Caicedo.

I can't really say whey we went in for Endo but honestly, I don't think he has done too poorly for us. He's not top-class but he is decent there and I feel we are more comfortable dealing with counters with him there than Macca.

17.) 20 Nov 2023 07:23:40
Bajcetic is the number 6 it seems to me. He can tackle and pass. Unfortunately he just seems to be picking up far too many injuries. I hope the injuries are just because he's a young lad growing in to his body and not because he is going to have an injury ravaged career.

18.) 20 Nov 2023 08:24:12
You having a conversation with yourself Harry?
Forget to log out of your sockpuppet account?

19.) 20 Nov 2023 08:34:57
Slow claps @flashred.

20.) 20 Nov 2023 08:37:30
Lee, perhaps we can convert Alison or Kelleher to play 6. I’ll bet you think that’s a silly idea but the reasoning you can swap players’ positions should apply to everybody in the squad?

21.) 20 Nov 2023 11:38:24
That’s just silly WDW and a very poor argument. Goalkeeper is a specialist position with a skill set that can’t be transmitted to any other position on the pitch and you know it.

I agree with Leek, good OUTFIELD players should be able to learn new positions. We live in an age where every player seems to have post-nominal letters after their name in relevance to their position on FIFA or Football Manager.

Virgil Van Dijk CB, Fabinho DM etc etc. In reality they are football players with a talent to play the game and should be able to adapt to new positions and formations.

Joelinton was a CF and now he’s a CM. Milner was a LW as a teenager but ended up playing most positions on the pitch.

There are countless examples of players moving positions and making it work and in many cases even improving their game. I’m not saying he’s right to suggest we convert Gomez or Quansah to a DM but I am saying it’s not as silly an idea as you seem to be making out.

22.) 20 Nov 2023 11:39:15
I think Klopp should play at 6, he knows better than anyone what he wants from the role.
Surely he’d be a good bet to provide it.
Once his match fitness is up to it of course?.

23.) 20 Nov 2023 19:28:25
Or maybe we just finally buy a top no6 that we need so badly and play all the rest of the squad in their strongest positions.

24.) 20 Nov 2023 19:31:20
@BP do you actually think it’s a serious idea? It’s the banter page mate - not everything is deadly serious ?.

25.) 21 Nov 2023 00:04:27
I know you weren’t serious mate but you were trying to belittle Leek’s idea by saying it should apply to everyone in the squad.

There are some players who are the best in their position like VVD or Salah so you wouldn’t dream of reinventing them but Gomez or Quansah could actually excel in a DM role and might be more useful to the team.

Personally I’m quite happy with Macca there I think he’s got better as the season has gone on and could be brilliant if given time to learn the role. I don’t think he gets a start higher up the pitch there are 3, possibly 4 players for those roles who are better than him right now so if he wants to be a starter for Liverpool he has to make it work.

26.) 21 Nov 2023 11:56:15
@BP we’ve already bought a 6 who looks like he is (gradually ) getting up to speed.

Quansah has the makings of a good CB and Gomez is a great squad player who can cover RB, RCB and even Lb at a push.

Why not use players in their best position and if we have a need for a starter in a position either bring someone through from within the club who has the skill set - Baj, as an example - or get the best available on the market, whoever that might be that has the skill set for the role.



31 Oct 2023 09:07:41
Where there is money, there is always corruption. No exceptions. Football fans would prefer to bury their heads in the sand rather than stand up for the life of the game. The cynic in me says any stance would be futile anyway. Money always talks.

What I cannot understand is the vast chasm in the difference between the operational skills and decisions of VAR and TMO.

TMO is calm and collected. The VAR booth sounds like a team of Murray Walkers, swearing their heads off.

TMO gets most of the decisions right and promptly. VAR gets too many catastrophically wrong and takes an eternity.

The approach and application of VAR is wrong and has been wrong since the beginning. The on-field referee should be the lead and be specific about what he wants. Was it offside? Was it handball?

The VAR booth should only lead when saying “you haven’t blown for this, you may want to review it” and send him immediately to the pitch side monitor. Replays shown from several angles, in real-time. If the referee asks for a slo-mo then, and only then, should one be shown. All of this should be transparent and clearly audible. It would be a darn sight quicker.

And yes, the swearing will need to be addressed, but it is not impossible.


1.) 31 Oct 2023 10:34:34
Rather than look for financial corruption I believe we should see this omnishambles associated with VAR as a conspiracy to cover up the incompetence of referees, both on the field and in the VAR booth. Rugby seems to achieve better outcomes, and while the money involved doesn't compare with The Premiership it still counted in millions. One of the major differences is that rugby fans accept decisions in the knowledge that, as there are human beings involved, there will be mistakes while soccer fans howl at the moon looking for perfection.

2.) 31 Oct 2023 13:21:20
I don’t buy that Kemlyn. I’m ok with some subjective decisions that I don’t agree with, they are subjective the clue is in the word.

I’m even ok with the odd human error but some of the blatantly incorrect decisions can only be done on purpose.

3.) 01 Nov 2023 01:08:57
I think it comes down to the use of clear and obvious
Rugby seems happy to allow the TNO and Bunker to take decisions or advise on incidents the on fiend team have missed
Football does t allow them to correct howlers made on field - and no one has explained what constitutes “clear and obvious”

Take Rhodri penalty. That happens at nearly every set piece but in a crowded space if on field miss it - VAR doesn’t award a pen as it’s not “clear”


4.) 01 Nov 2023 10:32:04
Problem is with rugby- there isn't near the amount of betting going on. That’s unfortunately where it all comes from.



29 Aug 2023 18:50:30
What Pundits say is driven by the studio. They are told what to say, what stance to adopt and if they don’t adhere to it, they lose their spot.

TV is all about one thing, viewers and the studio echoes what the research is telling them to do to gain the highest viewers.

At the moment, the most inflammatory subject is refereeing, so the pundits are being advised to highlight it.


1.) 29 Aug 2023 19:13:37
And all we need to do is trust in Jurgen. Everything else will be fine.

2.) 30 Aug 2023 01:20:14
The referees are also doing a good job of highlighting it.

3.) 30 Aug 2023 06:41:42
Sky have just appointed the most arrogant referee in premier League history and his first week he called Mac's sending off as correct. and then openly tells us all he let an Anthony Taylor mistake go, because he had had a difficult time in the game.
Wow, how dare we question referees integrity.




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10 Jul 2024 17:06:58
Jones and Grav hardly sat on the bench last season. I also do not see us being too active in the transfer market, two additions max. So they should still see plenty of game time.

I think Slot wants to give everyone a fair crack of the whip and I expect some players to surprise us and come back into the fold.




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09 Jul 2024 18:55:16
Viktor, MacAllister could well be gone next season. One of the Eds said he is on Real’s list for 2025 So do we wait for him to leave and lose out on a potential replacement this season? Or do we bed someone in and give us ourselves another option in CM?




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08 Jul 2024 18:02:50
I believe Briggs has already joined us.




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01 Mar 2024 11:15:55
I stopped reading Teamtalk when the infamous BB said Zidane was signing for Liverpool because Houllier was his god-father!




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24 Feb 2024 03:03:54
Good solid post Ed. Outside of Alonso, who do you think would adapt the best to being Liverpool manager? Or is that too hypothetical a question? Just interested in your gut feeling, as Klopp gets it but replicating that rapport with the club is difficult.


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21 Jul 2024 13:22:39
Imagine having Andrea Pirlo in your side and saying “but he cannot defend, so let’s get rid of him”.

Why can we not do with Trent what Milan did with Pirlo and find him a Gattuso?




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21 Jul 2024 08:26:58
I think Bajcetic will leave if we make him wait another two seasons, just my gut-feeling.

Does this setup leave any space for Gakpo, Gravenberch, Jones and Nunez? I don’t really see Jones as 6 in a double-pivot, although I can see Trent being coached into this role.

Final thought, I would prefer to see Beck given a chance over Tsimikas. He did enough on loan at Dundee to warrant an opportunity.




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20 Jul 2024 07:20:18
This generation’s need for instant gratification is a real concern. “I need an answer and I need it now” is so Veruca Salt.

Let the guy enjoy a break from football, after a lousy personal experience (for him) and come back to the fold, speak to the new manager etc.

He owes me (personally) nothing. He doesn’t have a duty to tell the fans first what his intentions are and if he chooses that he would like to play in Madrid, enjoy the excellent quality of life there, the food, the wine and the sun. Then so be it. Let him be.

Sadly, Liverpool does not have the allure of London, let alone Madrid. We should not be surprised that our best players want to test themselves at the best club in European football, probably the world.




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18 Jul 2024 12:45:08
Doku’s challenge on MacAllister could have significantly swung the pendulum of the league battle in our favour. Fine margins. Not miles away.




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18 Jul 2024 10:10:36
Guehi definitely went to sleep for the Oyarzabal winner. I don’t see a great CB there either. Another speed merchant at the back, rather than a footballer.

Is he still young enough to improve? Maybe. He is too old to grow taller though.




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