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31 Aug 2023 00:57:06
Hi Ed02,

I know plan A would be not to sell Salah, but I'm sure like any professional business we must be at least considering what we'd do if a 'cannot refuse' offer came in. Do you have any idea if Liverpool might be workshopping a 'pull this ripcord' plan B and who we might consider going for if we got a price we simply had to sell at?

I'd hate to see him go, but it does worry me if there's a 120m+ bid that comes in and Salah is insisting he wants to go, we'd at least be considering it.


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have certainly considered their options but making a signing this late in the transfer window, with no prior discussions, makes it very difficult as clubs do not have the time to find replacements. There are suitable replacements, obviously not like-for-like, that could be added - but some where interest has been shown are off elsewhere.}

1.) 31 Aug 2023 12:37:36
Edd, who’s you like to see us sign to replace salah now or next summer?

{Ed002's Note - I think Marcus Edwards would be a great option, but it won't be him.}

2.) 31 Aug 2023 14:08:14
Thanks for the reply Ed - sounds like nothing close to being lined up so let's hope Liverpool hold firm!



27 May 2018 13:36:43
Absolutely gutted for the boys - not for the result but for the manner of it. I was really hoping for some beautiful attacking play worthy of our run to the final, but while the first 30mins promised much, the way Salah was dragged down and injured, and the way we played so poorly after he left, and watching Karius crumble on the big stage was devastating.

I sincerely hope the whole team can pick themselves up from this, as we seem to be on the brink of something truly special. The biggest disaster of all would be if we let something like this impact the momentum going into next season.

Now for some home truths

- I've always felt the gap between our front three and the rest was ridiculously big. So it proved last night, not just in talent but also in style. Our game relies on Firmino dropping deeper to act as playmaker and to create space, with a pair of wide attackers able to use their pace and movement to take advantage, get into the box and score. We clearly don't have anyone else in the squad able to do that apart from Mane and Salah, and with only one of them on the pitch the opposition can shut us down all to easily. We need a top top wide attacking forward in the transfer window to allow us to remain a threat if any of the front three are injured/ need a rest. It's critical. RM must have been laughing when we took off Salah and brought on Lallana. They knew we wouldn't be nearly as dangerous.

- I've been proud of Gini and Milner individually this season, they've given everything, but it is also clear that they both need the front three to click or we look toothless. Without Mane, Salah and Firmino on fire, our midfield is exposed for what it is - workmanlike. We need someone able to pick the game up and create danger if the front three are struggling, and hopefully Keita is that player. Kroos and Modric schooled us once Salah went off and we can't let that happen again.

- GK. I've been one of Karius's backers, mostly because Mig's was clearly not the answer, but I think Karius will take time to get over this, and the team will need time to trust him again. I think it's critical after the final that we go all out for the best GK we can get to start next season. Karius may come back, and I hope for his own sake he grows to live this down and succeeds in the long run, but unfortunately we can't go into next season with him as our no.1, there's too much at stake

- Finally, I think Klopp missed a trick. It was clear going into half time we were struggling with Lallana out wide. I think he needed to shake it up and put Ings or Solanke on earlier and dropped Firmino into the 10, with Lallana in midfield. We should have realised we lacked any threat, trusted our FB's to push up to create the width and pace instead and really gone for them but that's always easy to say in hindsight.

I hope above all we get over this performance and learn, continue to grow and strengthen the squad. We've had some incredible memories from this season and we can do better still if we don't let this get to us.

YNWA lads. Thanks for a wonderful season and here's to the next.


1.) 27 May 2018 14:53:04
ings wasnt on the bench so you can expect klopp to put him on really can ya.

2.) 27 May 2018 16:55:41
I don't have qualms with lallan being brought on, throwing an inexperienced player into a game like that would be hard. I think we should have matched their diamond and played firmino and mane up top. We know they'll roam around anyway.

3.) 27 May 2018 17:08:03
I don’t think Ings was in the CL squad 😄.

4.) 27 May 2018 18:17:24
Win as a team, lose as a team. Don't care what the results is they are my team and I am proud they made it to the final. "If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win. ". -Bill Shankly.

5.) 28 May 2018 01:07:30
My bad - of course Ings wasn’t an option, i guess the point was, we didn’t have another wide forward that Klopp could replace Salah with, we were forced to changed our system and we went from being on top to being under pressure the rest of the match.

6.) 28 May 2018 07:10:17
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Reality is Klopp watches his players daily and is in a better position to judge. We lost, we will recover and hopefully use this as a great catalyst to go again. Onwards and upwards.

7.) 28 May 2018 08:57:25
Inexperienced players - Trent alexander and Robinson were pretty inexperienced.

8.) 28 May 2018 10:08:10
Woodburn should've been given a spot on the bench and would've been a better option than Lallana. He's the kind of player who can come off the bench and produce a bit of magic, like on his Wales debut for example. The fact we had 3 defenders and 2 midfielders on the bench certainly didn't help. I still don't think Klopp did all he could've to get back into the game, waiting until the 83rd minute and then bringing on Can was pretty pointless. If you need a goal, bring on a striker for dog's sake. Or even Moreno could've had more of an impact, and of the options that were on the bench I'd actually have brought him on to play inside-left instead of Lallana.

9.) 28 May 2018 10:45:30
I would personally have put on Solanke and played Firmino more as a 10 but everyone’s a genius with the benefit of hindsight.

10.) 28 May 2018 15:19:41
Yeah SGRed that would've been worth a shot as well, and of course hindsight is 20/ 20 but my main point is that Klopp did nothing at all. Seemed like he was as stunned as the players were by the combination of the three shocking moments, but that is exactly when you need a manager with a cool head to put any kind of plan in place to try and save the game. Don't get me wrong, I love Klopp, but it's a definite weakness of his.

11.) 28 May 2018 23:34:44
Agree Jurgen Meister. Kloppo gets his subs wrong often when we're losing.

First of all, Ings should've been on that bench as the most like-for-like for the front 3. Of course, not in quality but at least in mobility and versatility. He would've been my choice when Salah webt off injured. We needed to keep the width and stretch them.

Even when we went 2-1 down I would've brought Clyne on at RB and pushed TAA forward. Take Milner off as his legs were done and slot Lallana in the middle. Lallana always struggles playing wide.

Oh well, game is done and I'm not a coach lol.

{Ed0333's Note - so glad your not our coach Greg.




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08 Jan 2024 04:00:14
A couple of thoughts from the game

- I mentioned a few weeks ago I'd like to see Diaz given a run at RW while Salah was away, and I think he showed against Arsenal he has potential to be the solution there next season (if Salah goes to Saudi) . some good runs in behind, his dribbles looked more dangerous as his natural movement takes him to the byline rather than into traffic, and a great finish on his natural foot. could we see Nunez on the left and Diaz at RW next season perhaps, with Jota or Gakpo through the middle? Of course if Salah stays that's even better, and the Saudi league seems to be losing some of its better players which could yet impact his decision.

- Konate and Gomez have made huge strides this season, Gomez really took Saka out the game and that's a difficult thing to do. I really like how solid he's made our back 4.and Quansah and Connor Bradley look real talents. I'm loving the defensive shape we're working with now and we seem to have done away with the inverted FB for good now (thank goodness) .

Loving Liverpool 2.0!


1.) 08 Jan 2024 04:51:28
Maybe MBappe on the left, I am allowed to dream.

2.) 08 Jan 2024 06:20:53
We. Do love a left winger us like.

3.) 08 Jan 2024 09:45:54
SGRed, Diaz was brilliant and seems back to his best and his confidence is back if you look at how he took his goal without even looking. I hope he can push on right now whether on the left or on the right.

4.) 08 Jan 2024 18:31:00
Agree Oli - I don’t think he’s like a Mane or Salah in terms of his finishing but that’s OK in my book as he is more of a traditional winger and gives us something different - plus Jota is a more traditional 9 so they fit together well.

I also really like Nunez on the left and playing Jota and Gakpo through the middle as they’re more clinical at the moment.



15 Aug 2023 10:46:11
Hi Ed01,

Just wondering whether the 'clear and obvious error' threshold is actually a good or a bad thing in your mind? On the face of it seems sensible in order to limit the number of times VAR is used during a match, but in essence any intervention is overturning the onfield ref, which can limit how it's used quite a bit

For example on tight calls, it's almost never referred, but this is precisely when VAR can really help. In these cases I really like the rugby model, where the ref themselves can ask for VAR to help them out on a tight call, allowing them to consult the footage and a partner ref, and make a considered decision away from the best of the moment. It's also far more likely to result in better decisions without subconscious bias (eg. Natural reluctance to make a big call at a critical juncture) .

It would almost certainly help in situations like Man Utd penalty call on the weekend IMO, where I'm sure a review would have resulted in a more considered decision. Since when have keepers been given special privileges to clatter players after the ball has gone? If that was a midfield tackle that would have been a yellow.


{Ed001's Note - I think you are spot on. If it is a clear and obvious error, then it shouldn't require VAR to get an off field official to tell the referee to reconsider. Though last night it was blatantly obvious and still didn't get checked. I think you are right that the referee should be able to ask VAR for assistance.}

1.) 15 Aug 2023 11:58:33
the referees are just incompetent. it's as simple as that. I've never liked the wording of Clear and obvious error. But putting that aside, it is purely incompetence that the VAR would look at that incident and not think that the ref made a clear and obvious error.

2.) 15 Aug 2023 12:05:40
SGRed, I stopped caring about the whole Clear and Obvious schtick years ago. It doesn't mean a darn thing anymore. Why? Cos it was not set up to mean anything. It was set up for the incompetent refs to use as it suits them depending on what type of narrative they want to spout out to protect themselves after making absolute howlers. oh and notice they put in directives that refs cannot be challenged on their brazen incompetent decisions so esentially, all dissenters have been silenced. Talk about a dictatorship.

Look at the Chelsea handball and the Onana incident last night. They used the Clear and Obvious loophole to protect the ref and the VAR bloke for missing a blatant foul and a pen. Same with the handball by Jackson, IMO. The way you and Ed01 explained it is how things should work. Notice it isn't? That is by design, IMO.

3.) 15 Aug 2023 12:36:19
Listen the penalty call denied to wolves was a mistake pure and simple from the onfield referee he shoul be taken to task over thay lower league officials would be marked down for it so why not him?

4.) 15 Aug 2023 12:11:58
The irony of getting a penalty when you graze a players shin but nothing when a keeper tries to take your head off ?‍♂️.

5.) 15 Aug 2023 12:13:02
Agree - it seems quite obvious that in football it is just being used to avoid the most obvious of ref mistakes, whereas in rugby it is also being used to improve the quality of the difficult yet critical decisions on which results can swing.

6.) 15 Aug 2023 14:40:20
See that's the thing though - I get that refs and linesmen will miss things. I mean the speed of the game, players in the way, things look different when you see it at speed etc; the onfield officials will miss things, no bother

What gets me though is that the VAR official sees the same incidents, sees it slowed down etc - sees the exact same replays that all of us see and yet, inexplicably, manages to come to a completely different decision than what the millions watching at home have seen - how is that even possible?

I mean surely, the likes of Howard Webb should be sitting with these guys, watching the replays that he saw whilst on VAR duty and asking him how he reached the decision he did based on what he has seen? I mean, this should not be a complicated issue fs!

The annoying thing is that decisions like that happened almost every week last season. VAR 'decisions' were the most talked about thing in the game last season, you'd think that would have been addressed as a priority but here we are, week 1 of the season, and it looks like these kind of crazy calls will happen each and every week again.

7.) 15 Aug 2023 15:14:31
The Jackson/ Chelsea handball wasn’t a handball. Was accidental and by his chest.

8.) 15 Aug 2023 16:47:42
The clear and obvious error thing is a nonsense. VAR should be used to make sure the correct decision is made. That also should apply when incorrect decisions are made on goal kicks and corners, for example.

9.) 15 Aug 2023 16:59:52
Referees in premier league have been shockingly bad for years now, but not giving wolves that penalty actually reeks of corruption. Ref should be dropped for the rest of the season, and VAR ref should be done for good.

10.) 15 Aug 2023 15:47:14
Fuser, although I know what you are saying the Jackson handball was 100% a handball according to the current rules of the game. His hand was above shoulder height in an unnatural position. Well unnatural unless you’re an 8 year old girl trying to swipe a wasp from in front of your face.

This is the problem though isn’t it? There’s no consistency. Most of the time that’s a stonewall penalty in todays game. There are countless examples of it yet in that instance it wasn’t. Why?

The Utd one is plain corruption. There is no way in the world someone doesn’t give a foul for that unless it’s on purpose.

11.) 15 Aug 2023 17:35:45
I wouldn't mind as much if Anthony Taylor apologised for the handball one.
If he came out and said "I'm sorry I missed Jackson's"

12.) 15 Aug 2023 18:38:30
Didn’t think Jackson’s arm was above his shoulder tbf. All the pundits said it wasn’t a penalty.

{Ed025's Note - unless Jackson was auditioning for sooty it was a pen all day fuser, his hands were in an unnatural position for me mate..

13.) 15 Aug 2023 18:02:16
Fuser, well that makes very little sense cos that’ wasn’t what VAR checked. They checked if the vmball hit the ball hit his hand intentionally. I did not hit his chest first and then on to his hand by all the replays I saw yesterday when I watched the incident back so that’s no. 1.

Interestingly, I saw a lot of Chelsea fans say this in a brazen bid to exonerate the incompetent Anthony Taylor, the same guy they claim hates Chelsea and wrote a petition to the PL to never have him ref their games after he made the right decision to send off Reece James and award a stone wall pen to us a couple of seasons back.

So when was Taylor against them? Was it when when he gave us the right decision or when he refused to give us a pen for the Jackson handball. I can’t tell thru the waffle they speak.

Also, the ball hit his hand off the Diaz flick when he knowingly raised them while jumping hence, in an unnatural position. Seriously, who jumps to defend a corner with his hands that faraway from his body? Man, come on.

14.) 15 Aug 2023 20:50:42
Ed025, I know what you are saying.
I don't want to Sue but we shouldn't Sweep it under the carpet because his hand was in an unnatural position.

{Ed025's Note - love it Rigsby, i would agree with you mate but im nobodys puppet.. :)



11 Jul 2023 18:44:12
Does anyone know if Macallister can play DM or at least CM in a double pivot? It may not be his strongest position but I understand he's played there before and curious if anyones seen him play in more defensive positions?


1.) 11 Jul 2023 19:09:05
He loves a tackle and reads the game well. Maybe not the quickest across the ground.

2.) 11 Jul 2023 20:32:16
SGred, nearly every game i saw him play last season was left side of a double pivot alongside Caicedo. A quick check on transfermarkt has him down as playing 26 league games in CM/ DM and only 11 as an AM. I mostly saw Lallana, GroB and Enciso in the no.10 position to be honest. Mac Allister played there in one game i saw but as a general rule he played deeper. Argentina also brought him into the team as a more traditional box to box midfielder after losing to Saudi Arabia, because they needed more solidity. He helped get the best out of Enzo.

Mac Allister's a really good technical player and because of that I think people sleep on how good he is defensively. 1jj's brief assessment is spot on. If we stuck with the 3-2-2-3 i could easily see Mac Allister sat in the deeper midfield 2 with Trent. Equally he'd be just as effective in the more advanced midfield 2 alongside a player like Jones or Szoboszlai. He's an extremely versatile player. Not a superstar but the kind of water carrier that great teams are built on. Bargain of the summer if the reported €42m rising to €55m is anything like correct.

3.) 12 Jul 2023 07:27:06
If it is 3-box-3, what’s the starting line up do you guys think? So ali, robbo, virg, Konate. With matip, Gomes, sep ( is he back now? ), phillips, Rhys, tsimikas, Bradley, Ramsay (maybe a loan agreed here? ) that’s 7/ 8 covering 3 positions and I’m not sure how high my confidence is in in any of them, although that may be a little unfair. then back 2, starters fabs and Trent? With baj and hendo covering? Seems adequate to me. Then forward 2 - Mc Alister and Dominic, with Thiago and gakpo, Jones, Elliot covering. Then front 3, salah, nunez, Diaz, with jota and gakpo ( I appreciate I have him in twice) covering? I also know I’ve left out doak, Morton and a few others. But if we look at this 3 box 3 formation, we have good cover. Maybe sell off a few defenders and try get 1 more quality ideally who can play left side of a 3?

4.) 12 Jul 2023 08:44:43
OP, Alex Mach often drops into the DM role to pick up the ball and orchestrate but I don't think he can play the DM role the was say, a Fab, Casemiro or even his ex team mate Caicedo can.



31 Aug 2021 06:33:07
Maybe crazy to go back to this idea, but would anyone else like to see VVD push up into the box late on in games where sides are sitting back defending a draw? Decent chance Trent and Robby could give him a few late chances if we're bombarding the box, and I'd back him to put one away more often than not. Gomez/ Konate and Matip should still be a solid enough CB pairing to break down any counterattacks.

Some may laugh and point back to the Caulker days as a failed experiment, but VVD is a different prospect to defend against for the last 10 mins of a game where we have lots of possession, and given we lack any physical CF options to act as a major threat on crosses, it may be the next best thing?

Think how many times Giroud would score late winners for Chelsea.


{Ed001's Note - surely the answer is Alisson if we are looking for someone to head the ball?}

1.) 31 Aug 2021 06:47:30
No way mate his performance since signing contract extension has been so poor! No goal or assist after that WBA! what were dag thinking with extension for such a player!

2.) 31 Aug 2021 07:58:06
Pretty sure vvd goes up for most corners and free kicks anyway. Feeling his way back after a severe injury. Hard to jump for headers against Chelsea has he had lukaku in his pocket.

3.) 31 Aug 2021 08:09:45
I'd rather we try some long shots it was the only success we had after the red card.

4.) 31 Aug 2021 08:25:48
Haha nice one Ed 😂

I know a left field suggestion, but as a CB I’d be bricking it to face VVD in the box for last 10mins of a game! Felt like we missed a big of a target to hit in the last 15-20mins there.

I also agree with the long shots point, you have to force the opposition to come out and shut you down, and Fabinho is a pretty decent option there but Jones is pretty decent too.



30 May 2021 05:31:37
That result really tees up the next season nicely - City will be hurting, Liverpool should be back on track with VVD and Konate/ Gomez returning, Chelsea will have their tails up, and Man Utd should be decent enough to be well worth beating.

I just hope we don't sell any of our main forwards (unless we replace), and we get in one solid midfielder to replace Gini and who's able to back up Fabinho if necessary (can then also sell Shaqiri, Keita and less Jones/ Elliott step up)


1.) 30 May 2021 09:26:26
I think we have a good team as if now to push for the title.

I know most on here are not interested in keita but I will still want to test him out in the pre season before taking a decision.
We all know he is some player. He has had ample time to show that but he hasn't even shown a glimpse. I think 3 months more for him to sort it out or its goodbyes. he won't have euros so he has a month for fitness and learning the language at least some. A month to train and a month of preseason to showcase he has what it takes.
If he comes good and again there is a very little chance of it happening but if does he solves a lot of problems for us so id take that chance. there is no way we can't sell him w. o. a monumental loss so I guess one final chance!
Maybe we could put a mentor on him to burn his demons and get that football out of him.

{Ed0666's Note - I would rather sell keita and replace him with nehaus if it’s true the German has a €28 million release clause. Keita is too injury prone and we can’t have two midfielders (ox and keita) missing large swathes of the season respectively.

2.) 30 May 2021 10:06:27
My fear for next season is simply regardless of who we sell and replace them with City will go balmy in the market after last night. Reports are even before K. O. they were planning on selling Sterling and Mahrez, so there's 100 million in sales, so that's Harry Kane brought. Add two more 100 million pound signings say Halland and one other and that's a team that won't loose more than three games in the league next season. We will have a cracking team if everyone is fit, but that's a worry as well as VvD, Gomez and Konate have all had long term injuries this season so may take a while to get fully up to speed. But all that being said if we can reach the levels of a few years ago and stay there all season ourselves and Chelsea will be the only team that can compete with City. But we need to be on it from minute one and stay there all season.

3.) 30 May 2021 10:29:48
28 million is a bargain but this season showed that fab needs to play ever single game and if he can't we need someone who can replace him because we loose with out him its that simple.

4.) 30 May 2021 10:36:39
Kimurang, the question is, who’s going to pay them the big bucks for Maghreb and Sterling? I think they’ll not have the interest they’re hoping for, Sterling isn’t interested in going to a club outside of the champions league or not competing for the title, which limits him fo three clubs in the premier league, one of which is us, and all bridges are burnt here so that’s a non starter, United are after other targets (Sancho) and I can’t see City selling to their neighbours and Chelsea are overloaded with wingers and wouldn’t likely be interested, as for Mahrez, he’s 30 years old and I can’t imagine them drumming up much interest at a big price and again, he’s not going to want to play for a club not in the champions league.

5.) 30 May 2021 10:50:18
Test Keita? he’s here 3 seasons he’s absolute poison!
36 games in 3 years?
Volley him out of the club!

6.) 30 May 2021 09:47:47
Trust me ed i want a new midfielder as much as any fan and for 28 yes I will put it on nehaus who looks like a quality player.
But i fear we won't be able to get rid of keita that easily. Ox can be sold and ofcourse we have enough players to sell to actually buy nehaus.
I really want keita to do well. He was unbelievable at leipzig and i was one of the very happier ones when we got him. But don't think things will work out for him. Wonder if a move to back to leipzig is on the cards?

{Ed0666's Note - he was sensational in the bundesliga and I too was overjoyed when we signed him but the simple fact is he’s not lived up to expectations and has off field issues. Time to say goodbye but line you say will be very difficult to find a buyer. Not sure wether Leipzig will take him back mate no idea on that one.

7.) 30 May 2021 14:02:38
Keita needs to go and I think Klopp is fed up with him now. Now at the same time, I doubt it will happen cos who is going to take up those wages he’s on and we may want a bit too much for him hence, making him difficult for him to move. We shall see.

Now as for Neuhaus, I don’t have an opinion on him as I have never seen him play so if any of the posters can describe his attributes and how he suits us then, it would be much appreciated.

8.) 30 May 2021 14:57:47
Keita for Sabitzer?

{Ed0666's Note - I don’t see the hype about sabitzer




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Correct on both accounts Ed ;)


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25 May 2024 19:45:39
I agree with Diaz on the RW - he played well there and got in behind and put in some dangerous balls into the box. Diaz is good down the left but not quite clinical enough to be cutting inside and shooting IMO, I prefer Nunez or Jota doing that if we’re going to play inverted wingers.




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22 May 2024 12:09:55
Ben’s clearly talented but he’s just a kid. Would you want him starting a champions league final? Of course not, he’s just at the start of hopefully a long and successful career but not a Salah replacement.




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13 May 2024 14:56:36
Loan Kelleher to a PL side of we can find one to take him IMO - he’s a great option in a year or two but wouldn’t dream of losing Allison right now. We need senior leadership in the coming transition under Arne Slot.




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25 Mar 2024 00:34:43
‘No player is bigger than the club’ is often touted and completely true, but to compete at the very top of the game you need players that can do the extraordinary.

Trent is one of those game changers (like Salah and VVD) and is able to create chances with his passes that very few others can even see, let alone deliver.

We let him go at our peril, because replacing him with another game changer at the highest level would not be cheap or easy.





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30 Jun 2024 19:54:55
Southgate doesn’t seem to have figured out Bellingham at 10, Foden tucking in from the left, and Kane dropping deeper = everyone’s in the same space. Better than the last game but barely…the setup and balance is still all wrong.


{Ed025's Note - absolutely SG..



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01 Mar 2024 16:22:40
Kelleher was MOM for me but I do really like Ellliott. I still think he’s a little overzealous at times when pressing, and can get caught out against the better teams, but there’s no questioning his energy and enthusiasm, and his quality on the ball can really change a game. That’s a rare skill, and he’s only going to get better.




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26 Feb 2024 19:02:10
Alonso nailed it - you look at Endo’s awareness and scanning and it is exceptional - a skill that doesn’t make the highlight reels but in a real match situation it makes all the difference in the world.

He’s always alive to being pressed, quick to move the ball on because he knows exactly where it’s going before he receives it, and always alert to danger the second we lose possession.

He makes the game look simple because his awareness and read of the game means doesn’t need to complicate things.




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26 Feb 2024 05:15:53
Well said JK.




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26 Feb 2024 05:15:09
Caceido should have been a yellow for sure but not a red (but then Jones’s red some time ago should have been a yellow too, and this tackle was a lot worse! ) .

On the topic of consistency, the first goal being ruled out I can just about understand, but then going forward anyone in an offside position that impedes a defender tracking back has to be a foul and we all know that’s not going to happen! Definitely a point that needs to be clarified.

I still don’t agree that means the ref lost control of the game though, it wasn’t a great performance but I’ve seen a lot worse and he generally kept things ticking over without unduly influencing the game too much (VAR made the call on Endo and not reviewing the Caceido challenge) .

Most importantly though, that first 15mins of extra time tells you everything you need to know about Klopp, Liverpool and the academy. Such confidence and spirit to take the game to them given the circumstances and Chelsea just faded by comparison. A worthy win for that 15mins along where the kids stepped up like seasoned pros under the pressure and Klopp deserves huge respect for making that call and putting his own credibility at risk in a major final.




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