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19 Apr 2021 20:53:20
Evening Ed's. Good first half from us, but sadly doesn't overrule the bigger issues surrounding our club at the moment.

Understand if you don't want to get into it too much but I wanted to try and get your take. Do you honestly think the ESL will go ahead, or do you think the threats from fans, players past and present, and governing bodies will be enough to bring it to a halt? Surely Liverpool wouldn't risk their rich UCL history or their place in the PL for this, would they? I also really hope Klopp doesn't walk.

Thanks guys :)

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{Ed0666's Note - I said in the podcast yesterday that it wouldn’t happen as the backlash would be too severe. Nothing has transpired in the meantime for me to change my mind. I do believe the days of FSG are numbered as owners I don’t think they’ll survive this monumental money grab.

19 Apr 2021 20:51:31
Leeds are asking for a hiding here. Liverpool should be giving it to them.

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19 Apr 2021 18:32:40
Just seen someone post what’s apparently a quote from Klopp from today about the super league.
If it’s true (pinch of salt) then he’s putting his head on the chopping block, I’m not sure the owners have the balls to sack him but if true it’s clear he won’t stick around.

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19 Apr 2021 19:30:44
From the BBC website

Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp, speaking to Sky Sports: "My feelings didn't change. My opinion didn't change [from when he has criticised Super League suggestions in the past]. I heard for the first time about it yesterday. I was trying to prepare for a difficult game.

"We got some information, not a lot. Most of the things in the newspapers. It's a tough one. People are not happy with it, I can understand it. I can't say a lot more because we were not involved in the process - not the players, not me - we didn't know about it. We will have to wait how it develops. "

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19 Apr 2021 19:31:03
More from Jurgen Klopp: "I'm 53. Since I've been in professional football, the Champions League has been there. My aim was always to coach a team there. I have no issues with the Champions League.

"I like the competitive aspect of football. I like that West Ham might play in the Champions League. I don't want them to because we want to but I like they have the chance. What can I say? It's not easy.

"What I want to say as well, I've heard a few things but what I really don't like, Liverpool football club is much more than some decisions. The most important part of football are the supporters and the team. We have to make sure nothing gets between that. I've heard there are banners but the players didn't do anything wrong. We have to all stick together. We can show nobody has to walk alone in these moments. There are things to sort but nothing to do with the football or the relationship between the supporters and the team.

"In tough times you have to show you stick together. It doesn't mean you have to agree with everything but again the boys did nothing wrong. I want to make sure everyone knows that.

"I understand it. I am in a different position. I don't have all informations. I don't know exactly why the 12 clubs did it. I know some things will change with football in the future. Some things have to change in football that is for sure.

"Usually you have to prepare these kinds of things, it takes time. "

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19 Apr 2021 19:35:22
Mikey if they dare sack that man there will be riots. He obviously is not happy with this. His interview on MNF shows that. he's wanting to scream it from the top of the Kop I think . This league will not happen, when you have the world governing body of the sport, the European governing body of the sport, the domestic governing body of the sport, the clubs fans, all the other clubs, managers of clubs involved, the government and Prime Minister of Great Britian and the Hier to the throne of Great Britian and all her teritories saying no, this can not happen. No it is wrong, no it must be stopped, then it will be. I totally agree with Gary Nevielle, all the owners of these clubs need to go. This is now obvious.

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19 Apr 2021 19:37:02
It’s fake.

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19 Apr 2021 20:50:04
Thought as much Jay dub red.
His actual interview was about as damming as he could get it without F$G immediately ringing him.
Felt really sorry for him and the players tonight, been well and truly fed to the lions.

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19 Apr 2021 12:22:40
Would Klopp leave Liverpool in a stand against the super league?

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{Ed002's Note - I would be surprised if his position of being against it has changed and I would expect the club will look to surpress him being asked about it today, but if he is I think it will be the same answer or a non-comittall answer. Whether or not he would leave will be another matter. There may well be two attractive jobs available to him this summer but Liverpool will not want him to leave.}

19 Apr 2021 12:36:57
Would they be the German national team and the Bayern Munich job Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

19 Apr 2021 12:46:03
Would those be Bayern/ Germany?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

19 Apr 2021 13:03:33
If ESL does go ahead, I won't blame Klopp for going and won't care about what's left behind. I will be writing to the club go express my feelings. I an under no illusion as to the futility of the exercise but at east I will feel slightly better as a consequence. I may develop an alternative interest on football, I may not but my near 50 year love of the Reds will die.

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19 Apr 2021 13:07:13
Wouldn't be surprised if he left after the game. a good break before the summer for him.

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19 Apr 2021 14:17:01
I can't see him going to Bayern, but I do think there's a real risk of him resigning to take the job managing the German National Team. I think a lot depends on whether or not he was blindsided by the news.

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19 Apr 2021 14:31:57
Let's be honest, Klopp is an issue with this but the main question in every fans head now should be about their own allegiance.

I support our great club because of the return from adversity and the roller coaster of being the best in the land and then facing difficulties. The club that has been loved by its fans and has loved them back.
If this proposed move to a super league goes ahead then I won't care if Klopp has moved on because I will have moved on myself.
I am a diehard Liverpool fan, but without the soul and the history, the failures and successes, the club would not be the one I aligned myself with and would not be a club I could follow with the same passion.

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19 Apr 2021 14:35:54
Suspended betting on him leaving across a number of bookies.

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19 Apr 2021 14:54:22
He's given us so much, all we can dare ask for is for him to be true to himself and show his honesty, if we lose him because of this it's a disaster but the nails for John Henry's tenure will banged in for good.

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19 Apr 2021 15:16:29
"If this proposed move to a super league goes ahead then I won't care if Klopp has moved on because I will have moved on myself. "

Couldn't say it any better.

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19 Apr 2021 16:07:23
Agreed.

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19 Apr 2021 16:48:23
FSG believe all of you threatening to leave the fanbase are replaceble commodities. They take you for granted and forget that if it wasn't for you, this club would be nothing. Hold them accountable.

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19 Apr 2021 17:16:04
Losing Klopp at this time would really wound FSG in this moment. I think FSG, and similar owners, underestimate how significant the sport and history is to a club and it's fans. LFC supporters have always been a monumental force, so I would implore everyone with an opposing belief to speak up in a sensible way.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool may not need a coach next season if they are kicked out of all other competitions like the Premier League.}

19 Apr 2021 17:41:29
I don't believe for one minute that the Premier League will kick the so called big six out of the league, unless they want to reduce the TV revenues by 80%, because Sky and BT will not be paying a fraction of what they pay now without the big six in.

Also, UEFA and FIFA talking about banning any players that play in the European Super League, this will just lead to the creation of an alternative association with the best players and then TV companies won't pay to televise FIFA and UEFA competitions, when they can televise the better players in a competition.
BTW the people that run those associations are all a bunch of crooks anyway.

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{Ed002's Note - Can you look out of your window and tell me what colour the sky is?}

19 Apr 2021 18:02:00
What a joke that would be Ed002! Don't tempt fate.

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{Ed002's Note - Well at least everyone now knows FSG don't make idle threats.}

19 Apr 2021 18:05:15
Ed002 the sky is blue, but I don't understand why you asked me to look.

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19 Apr 2021 18:10:32
If Klopp were to go there's plenty that would want to replace him in this new "super league". And the more "die hards" that don't come through the turnstiles the better for all these owners. A season ticket holder doesn't visit the club shop and buy merchandise but a day tripper (I speak from experience with bringing my 2 boys on the stadium tour etc when over from here) will. Its a business now and fans are gone. We are all customers.

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19 Apr 2021 18:10:56
Im not a fan of the ESL but what legal ground would Uefa have?

UEFA executive committee member and head of Danish FA Jesper Moller has said he expects Chelsea, Real Madrid and Man City to be kicked out of this season's Champions League.

Uefa are setting themselves up for another embarrassing court case like the City FFP case.

Yet the teams signed up to ESL have not said they won't still play so what legal ground could Uefa have?

Uefa could be putting there own nail in there coffin by removing them this season.

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19 Apr 2021 19:05:29
So PSG are 2020/ 21 champions league winners?

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{Ed002's Note - You will have to wait to see what happens but legal advice has already been taken.}

19 Apr 2021 19:39:22
Why are people losing their minds over this all of a sudden?

This issue has been spoken about on this forum for years and years, and no one here had anything negative to say. Of anything, most here were excited by the prospect.

My tuppence is it would be sad to see us moving on from where our history is rooted but things change but I'd still support LFC if they decided to move to a local Sunday league because the club is more than about its ownership at any point in time, more than playing or coaching staff - as we frequently discuss - so for better or for worse, I'm stayin.

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19 Apr 2021 20:41:38
Lots of people had negative things to say through the years now its real and more disgusting than we thought if Lfc go then the ideals of the clubs are abandoned, I doubt many will follow them for long.

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19 Apr 2021 20:59:22
By UEFA or the clubs Ed002? Thanks in advance mate.

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{Ed002's Note - UEFA in that instance. The clubs have already started legal proceedings to block any attempt to block the league happening.}

15 Apr 2021 08:21:49
Just curious ED01 and ED02; if you were at LFC who would you be looking to keep, move on, promote etc and buy over the Summer (given the likely reduced transfer pot) and given the crazy stats of shots taken to goals scored at Anfield, is this purely confidence driven or have our forwards peaked already? Thank you for your time and the excellent site.

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{Ed002's Note - Possible departures before the start of next season:
Adrian (G) out of contract
Loris Karius (G) will be sold for whatever the club can get.
Yasser Larouci (LWB)
Kostas Tsimikas (LWB) The move to Liverpool has not worked out to be an easy transition for the player and we kow that talks have been held between his agent and Napoli, Olympiakos and Panathinaikos. I am not aware of any offers and the price could be a major problem for the Greek clubs. We will see what happens in the summer.
Marco Grujic (DM/CM) will be available.
Gini Wijnaldum (CM) His representatives say that Liverpool have not offered a suitable contract to him and he will leave if a new contract is not agreed. He has been offered to Barcelona again but Barcelona are dealing with other priorities but could still be interested in the player as a Free Agent. Inter Milan have asked his agent for an idea of what he would be asking - but he is not there first choice, although being a Free Agent makes him attractive to them. However, he has made a huge signing on and wage demand that the interest of Inter will have gone. My understanding from an ex-PL player who is involved with Barcelona that there was at least a verbal agreement in place between the parties before the election - if that is the case then lawyers will need to agree the formal pre-contract and everyone would need to sign it. If he asks too much Barcelona will walk away like Inter.
Naby Keita (CM) The player has been nothing but trouble since he first agreed the move and spent a final year at RBL. He has not adapted in England and has failed to perform consistently when given the chance. Liverpool need to cut their losses but it will be difficult to find a buyer at a reasonable price and not all countries would be willing to grant him a Work Permit.
Takumi Minamino (AM) Sevilla are keen to take Minamino to replace Vazquez.
Sheyi Ojo (RW) Championship fodder
Mo Salah (RW/F) Liverpool could cash in to fund transfers but there is no clear interest at this time after he and his agent pricing him out of a move with previous attempts to leave. His "representative" has again been doing the rounds this time also asking Bayern Munich and again PSG if they are interested. I suspect that Barcelona and Real Madrid may also have been approached again. Liverpool will likely look to a new contract but don't be surprised of an offer from PSG.
Sadio Mane (LW/RW) It is just possible RM could look to Mane as an option.
Xherdan Shaqiri (RW/AM)
Harry Wilson (RW)
Liam Miller (F) will likely be sold once he returns from Charlton
Taiwo Awoniyi (S) Doing pretty well in Germany and a buyer will be able to be found there at the right price.
Divock Origi (S) Cercle Brugge are looking to Origi if they cannot persuade Chelsea to sell Ike Ugbo to them in the summer.
Roberto Firmino (S) Liverpool will look to upgrade at some point whilst he still has value – perhaps in 2022.}

15 Apr 2021 10:31:00
Great info Ed, it’s a shame that we are never able to bid for the very top players such as Haaland or Kane. Imagine Haaland in this Liverpool team, would take us up a couple of levels.

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15 Apr 2021 13:22:14
Never able to bid for top players? What about Van Dijk and Allison, the owners have spent big money when needed and im sure they will again, just not on ridiculous fees for the likes of Kane.

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15 Apr 2021 13:19:14
Really good insight Eds2. Salah I would still like to keep and would add the ox and Matip to the list plus Not take up the option of Kabak. Philips has proved his worth.

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15 Apr 2021 13:47:52
Thanks for the update, Ed. Really appreciate all the info you provide.

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

15 Apr 2021 13:52:38
Thanks a lot mate.

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15 Apr 2021 12:40:19
Thanks v much ED02. Who do you personally think we should be looking to recruit?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to that now. There will be a Sharkopod in a couple of weeks.}

15 Apr 2021 14:55:33
Were VVD and Allison being chased like Haaland et al? Can't recall but I don't think it was like that. despite us paying massive fees for them two, I think Champs point is that we're not typically in the market for the world's most sought after players.

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15 Apr 2021 17:21:44
Oh I wasn't having a go at the lad just saying is not like Liverpool haven't spent big on top players. If the club did have £100m+ to spend I wouldn't blow it on a Haaland.

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16 Apr 2021 15:39:07
Cahmps2020 take us up a couple of levels?

Strange comment that as as far as I can remember, before this season 2 champions league finals winning one, a league title (first in 30 years), a super cup and a first world club cup we have won toppled with having a player that's on course for his 3rd golden boot in 4 seasons, the worlds most expensive defender ath the time, and a world record for a keeper? What other levels is there lol maybe have a rattle at the world cup and euro 2020 and throw lebron james in nets and ask tom brady to play the full back role lol.

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16 Apr 2021 21:46:55
ed001 what value would you put on Xherdan Shaqiri Divock Origi, Harry Wilson and Takumi Minamino. and what would you think the club will put on them.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't know mate, it is not really my area.}

16 Apr 2021 22:32:08
Yes I really do thin Haaland would take us up a couple of levels. 18 months ago we were a different proposition. Haaland is nearly a goal a game guarantee right now.

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17 Apr 2021 07:59:25
Awesome info Ed. Thanks! I feel like it is crucial the club starts moving out players this summer if they’re looking to seriously refresh the squad. Can’t keep adding players and not selling.

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17 Apr 2021 10:38:11
ed002 would you have any clue on this what value would you put on Xherdan Shaqiri Divock Origi, Harry Wilson and Takumi Minamino. and what would you think the club will put on them.

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what the club will value the players at, but none are worth a great deal but might just raise enough money to pay off the debt taken on last summer on Jota and Thiago.

17 Apr 2021 13:38:23
I don’t k know why people keep thinking we’re in the discussion for Haaland. He’s got a £150m+ fee, he wants £500000 a week and the agents fees are over £30m. Forget him, he’s NEVER going to play for us.

I think there’s a long list of players to move on this summer.

Wijnaldum
Adrian

Karius
Matip
Keita
Mane
Wilson
Ojo
Awoniyi
Shaqiri
Grujic
Origi

I’m uncertain about selling Ox, as he could be useful if he’s fully recovered. But we should move all of those listed on.

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17 Apr 2021 13:56:54
6times who is going to buy matip, after one bad season everybody seems to want Mane gone I think he will be back to his best soon.

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17 Apr 2021 16:32:52
Sure Matip could be useful if he fully recovered also. Ox should be on the list too.

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17 Apr 2021 20:00:09
I’m sure at the right price there’d be a buyer for Matip. But one thing is for sure, that for us, he cannot be relied upon as a squad member, and certainly not as a regular starter. Maybe a less physical league would be better for him? Set the price around the £10m and I’m sure there’d be some buyers.

Mane is 29, he’s not getting younger and he looks spent, we cannot afford to carry a player who is on the way down and given that we need to refresh the squad and we don’t have money to enable that (if we were skint last summer, it’s even worse this summer), the sensible thing to do is to sell a player likely to reach a very good price that won’t impact the team, regrettably that player should be Mane as his replacement is already here in the shape of Jota. Plain logic dictates that is the right choice.

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{Ed0666's Note - if I were the one making the decision logic would decree we would have a major overhaul and plan to be contenders in two seasons.

18 Apr 2021 12:06:48
The point being that if Matip is on the list because of his injury record, which I agree with then the OX should be on it too? He is as equally unreliable as Matip and Keita imo.

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18 Apr 2021 12:13:51
I think Ox should be added to the list too. He isn’t the player he was and doesn’t make an impact anymore or near the starting 11.

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14 Apr 2021 20:47:58
Ed’s which teams are interested in mane if he were to move is there any solid interest?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approaches to Liverpool for Mane. If Liverpool want to make him available it will be done through his agent.}

15 Apr 2021 12:58:48
Worried that he has lost that burst of pace a little, seems to be struggling with all parts of his game though.

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15 Apr 2021 14:08:33
Mane and firminos cycles have come to an end at liverpool as consistent first teamers. Firminos decline has been for a couple seasons now and it’s been clear for a while we’ve needed an upgrade in that position, especially when you take into account we were about to bring in Werner in the summer. I personally think firmino should move on and it would be best for all parties, he gets a fresh start and the club tries to upgrade with hopefully a decent fee from his sale. At most he should only be a squad player, if he is to stay, but somehow I see us persisting with him in the starting 11, much to our detriment. Mane is following the same trend, we see glimpses of the old mane but he’s lost his edge, we see more of the poor sides of mane that we’ve come to see in recent years rather than the good sides. I’m still willing to give him time, but I just think his fate is the same as firminos at the moment. Both need fresh starts and we need decent fees from their sales, problem is salah could force his way out and that leaves us in a whole heap of problems, if salah wasn’t an issue and was guaranteed to stay at the club then I would let mane and firmino go and try bring in better performing players offensively in a heart beat.

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15 Apr 2021 17:13:43
Kman, Sadio will be grateful to you I'm sure.

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14 Apr 2021 17:56:09
With Bayern apparently looking for a new manager at the end of season is Klopp someone they are interested in? Do you think they would try tempt him? I just worry the biggest job in Germany may be hard to turn down for him.

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{Ed002's Note - Bayern want to keep HF who is probably the second choice behind JK for the Germany job. They could well look to JK if HF wins out with the Germany job - but there are probably several other options to be considered there.}

15 Apr 2021 06:55:15
Surely BM will be primarily interested in Nagelsmann if HF leaves.

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15 Apr 2021 07:26:02
I suspect Nagelsmann will end up at BM if Flick leaves this summer, but I guess the question is whether they think he's ready. He's still really young for a manager and has never been at a club the size of BM where egos and big personalities clash from the dressing room all the way up to the boardroom. Also, the fact that he's never won any silverware might count against him, but then again, he's been up against the might of Bayern his entire managerial career so far.

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{Ed077's Note - and RBL are still in the DFB pokal which Bayern are out of so he might win it??

But I think if Klopp wanted the Bayern job, he will get it. Personally I would be a bit surprised of Klopp left right now but who knows.

15 Apr 2021 13:51:21
I read a while ago that even beforeNiko Kovac was hired, Naggelsman was who Bayern wanted since Klopp was out of the picture. Now if Flick takes the Germany job and Klopp stays at LFC which he will IMO then, they could look to him again.

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{Ed002's Note - That is not their plan.}

15 Apr 2021 23:00:10
He’s come out and said he would never leave Liverpool whilst under contract.

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