Liverpool Transfer Rumours

04 Aug 2021 08:30:31
Dominic King reporting that Sheffield Utd, Celtic and Bournemouth are all interested in Ben Davies. LFC have turned down a loan offer from SHU.

Is the plan still to keep him or is he for sale?

04 Aug 2021 08:45:13
If he comes under the HG quota then I expect him to stay. much will depend on how much we could raise from sales.

04 Aug 2021 10:39:18
Folks here really need to understand what the HG rules mean.

It is not a requirement to have x number of HG players. If you have fewer HG players than the quota then it just means your squad is smaller. HOWEVER, you can use as many U21s as you want.

The current Premier League rules are that you can have a maximum of 17 non-HG players in your squad. Therefore, to have a full squad of 25, you need 8 HG players. However, you don't HAVE to have 8 HG players, you just end up with a smaller squad (like we have done at least last season if not the year before, the same as a few other teams too) .

Looking at the HG players who are going to be part of our squad based on merit:

Milner
Henderson
Trent
Robbo
Kelleher (I think he counts as HG? )
Gomez

That's 6, which means our squad of senior players can be 23.

On top of that we still have Phillips, and the Ox, but I can't see a problem if either or both are sold. My gut feel is we will sell Phillips and keep the Ox as I still rate him, if only he could stay fit!

Players such as Neco Williams, Rhys Williams, Curtis Jones, Harvey Elliot, Clarkson etc are all classed as U21 so they can automatically be a part of our EPL and CL squads (as long as we register them) and we can have as many U21s as we register.

So, we do not need to stress about HG quotas. They are not a mandatory requirement to have x number of HG players, rather a squad restriction on Non-HG players being a maximum of 17. And a number of players who are around our first team - the most advanced (in terms of likely game time) being Curtis Jones - are U21 so are eligible anyway.

Personally, I'd quite like to try out Doku. He would be classed as U21 so has no impact on the 17 squad places for non-HG and seems to have great potential.

{Ed002's Note - You need to consider the club developed players as well.}

04 Aug 2021 10:51:20
Thanks Ed002, was going to mention CD players as well, but thought I'd try to get the HG rules tied down!

Are the Club Developed players only relevant for CL squads rather than EPL squads, or is the EPL likely to introduce a CD requirement too?

{Ed002's Note - At the moment CL only but the number of HG players will increase for the PL and their will be club developed requirements as well.}

04 Aug 2021 10:59:25
I didn't think Robbo was classed as HG, Zeddicus?

{Ed002's Note - He isn't.}

04 Aug 2021 11:01:27
What’s huge club developed player quota Ed002? Forgive my ignorance I can’t find anything online about this. Is this something coming into play soon? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - It already exists for the Champions League which is why Liverpool had a small than 25 man senior squad last season. It is coming for the Premier League.}

04 Aug 2021 11:02:38
Doku would need to be registered as one of the 17 non-HGs in the Champions League squad. The CL has an additional restriction that an U21 player needs to be at the club for 2 years or more to go on the unlimited size B list for U21s.

He'd be a "freebie" for the PL because they don't have that requirement.

04 Aug 2021 11:05:10
Does Robbo count as HG? Is it English fa?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

04 Aug 2021 11:06:27
Also Robbo's not Home Grown for an English club. He was in Scotland for the relevant years and the UK is not all counted as one entity for the purposes of HG players.

04 Aug 2021 11:28:04
Do EU players who have acquired the right of permanent residence (or been granted the equivalent settled status following Brexit) in the UK if they’ve lived in England for five years count HG, Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - The HG rules are simple - where they are born is of no relevance.}

04 Aug 2021 11:41:52
Ah sorry folks, got it wrong with Robbo, good shout on Doku too, SR. I have a sneaking suspicion that one of the players we will sign (towards the end of the window no doubt as we need to make some sales first) will be an U21, at least for the EPL.

Doku and Pedri are the ones we have been linked to in recent weeks. Pedri may just be too expensive, but he would be an amazing acquisition who (I think, maybe Ed002 can confirm? ) could qualify as Club Trained if he joined this summer?

{Ed002's Note - Pedri won't be moving to Liverpool. Another club made a very significant offer (way more than Liverpool could afford) and it was rejected as he is not for sale.}

04 Aug 2021 11:44:31
Thanks for clarifying the club developed rule Ed02.

04 Aug 2021 11:51:48
Eds Is the Home Grown rule being considered a success within the football industry?

As a fan looking from the outside it seems at least in England it just leads to inflated fees as no doubt Grealish and Sancho are great players but a combined cost of £170m for two players that are not guaranteed to start in the national team first 11.

{Ed002's Note - Yes and it is being expanded.}

04 Aug 2021 14:02:48
Zed- You’re right, if he’s not going to play it’s pretty irrelevant that he’s home grown.

03 Aug 2021 17:23:34
Fabs has just signed a new long term contract with the club. Brilliant news.

03 Aug 2021 18:15:38
Owners won't spend though.

03 Aug 2021 18:52:26
If they sign Saul or Bissouma then all is forgiven.

03 Aug 2021 19:33:08
This is definitely a smokescreen for mbappe!

03 Aug 2021 19:45:58
Can see Bobby and Hendo being left out of new contract talks, or at least not what they might be looking for. let's be honest, if Biss or Saul are signed, then its going to be a battle for starting with Thiago and Fab nailed on.

03 Aug 2021 19:56:18
I don’t know why I am getting involved but Spaceman it’s obvious why Fabs is nailed on but what has Thiago done to earn the right to be a definite starter? Surely he has to earn that right this season.

03 Aug 2021 21:04:29
Thiago is starting alongside Hendo and Fab if all are fit. That is the midfield that started at Everton before things went to hell in a hand basket which means that had always been the plan when he arrived. Don’t see why that would change.

03 Aug 2021 22:12:15
That will change depending on form, fitness, a new signing etc. Gini ended up playing the full season. Hopefully Jones steps up to push for a spot and if we play the 4 forwards I would imagine Thiago would drop out.

03 Aug 2021 22:59:37
Two reasons Mark

1. Klopp went on to a strike to get Thiago over the line. If he doesn’t start when fit then he would look like an absolute fool.

2. Someone who is excellent in press resistant, and has a sublime vision to pick a pass plus the only midfielder who could break the lines needs to start.

Who is he Inferior to in the squad today?

03 Aug 2021 23:11:44
What does reason No.1 mean? Klopp went on strike?

{Ed0666's Note - news to me also. It truly is a Peculiar comment. Maybe he has insider knowledge.

03 Aug 2021 23:15:16
'Klopp went on to a strike to get Thiago over the line. ' - This is a lie, embarrassing yet again.

03 Aug 2021 23:54:10
Thiago can hardly be judged on last season Mark. Get behind the lad cus he's one of our lot and sure as s**t ain't leaving tomorrow 😅.

04 Aug 2021 03:10:55
Here we go. The inventing and making up of stories has restarted. Outright lies to make a point, while smearing anyone along the way.

The Eds really should not be allowing this. Absolutely nobody else does it to this extent.

{Ed0666's Note - eds shouldn’t allow what? am I missing something? Calm down, Calm down ArAy (I’ve always wanted to say that) you’re gonna blow a gasket.

04 Aug 2021 03:21:34
Ed0666, it's Harry with the lie about Klopp going on strike to get Thiago signed. You obviously haven't seen how far he goes and has gone in the past. Check with Ed001 when you have a chance.

{Ed0666's Note - It amazes me how you guys pick up on Harry’s new aliases. I never can. I know Harry can be a trifle annoying and can rub people up the wrong way but try not to let him get to you mate. If he oversteps boundaries please know he’ll be banned.

04 Aug 2021 05:04:31
Calm down, calm down ArAy - love it to bits Ed 😁😁

Telling you coffee and toast is getting better snd better - shame we don’t have the old days when you could buy players during the season - now that would have been fun.

{Ed0666's Note - I must be the only person that likes the system we have now a summer and winter period you can buy players. I don’t like the thought of you’re star striker being injured and not being able to replace him till January or the summer

04 Aug 2021 06:07:00
It's cool with me Ed0666, if it's okay with everyone else. I just wanted to point out that I don't allow anyone to rub me up, at all. I suspect you're confusing me with BarryinLouth? 🤣.

{Ed0666's Note - Barry doesent rub as well as he used to

04 Aug 2021 09:55:17
Welcome back Harry lol! Can't beat a Harry rumour or for that matter a Harry outright fantasy story or kick off haha!

04 Aug 2021 08:00:38
Golden Ed 🤣.

{Ed0666's Note - cheers Gandolf ☝️

04 Aug 2021 09:21:45
I'll used a Mink glove next time Hotlips.

{Ed0666's Note - ooh la la

04 Aug 2021 09:33:30
Markp08. Thiago has some weekly wages. Is classed as a worldie and he is a starter. Hendo should be too. Top 3 captains of my lifetime. Can understand with age and injuries it’s difficult to sanction a bumper deal. I would if we were cash rich and allowed heart over head. But it’s 2yrs on current. That’s 33-34. With two more seasons of treatment.

IMO I’m now in a place I’d think that win a top title in that time hopefully. Hendo lifts it. He’s 34 a legend and can go play for Sunderland or whoever his boyhood Favourite was. As a business he doesn’t need four years on top wage.

03 Aug 2021 07:31:15
Guido Rodriguez latest to be linked. never heard of him or seen him play. Any good eds?

{Ed002's Note - Guido Rodriguez (DM) The club have said that if someone comes up with his €75M release clause then he will be sold. There is no interest at that price but Arsenal have watched the player but without several departures do not need another DM player. It seems very unlikely the player would want the move after only being in Spain since January last year although Real Betis would be open to a sale. A reasonable fee might be €20M-€25M - but that may not be enough for them. If Liverpool are interested it would not be as a Wijnaldum replacement but more likely a Fabinho replacement - mankes no sense.}

03 Aug 2021 09:46:37
Thanks very much for the reply eds. Silly season sees us linked with everyone. Was just curious as never heard of him and so seemed rather left field. Thanks again.

02 Aug 2021 19:31:39
Hi Ed’s, fully understand that we need to move some players on if we’re to add more non home grown, With Shaqiri and Origi being the most likely, Shaqiri has made it clear he wants to move, but what’s the situation with Origi?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool will listen to offers.}

02 Aug 2021 19:51:36
But have there been any? Should've sold him to wolves when his value was a lot higher.

{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

02 Aug 2021 19:55:55
I am just hoping the rumours of Elliot going back out on loan are false especially to a side like Sheff Utd who haven't played the best of football over the last 18 months or so.

02 Aug 2021 20:00:27
Is there any interest in Origi Ed and is there still interest in Minamino. It is quiet clear they have no future at the club Ed hope we don’t price them out of a move is clear there are 6 or 7 players that are not going to get much if any game time even if we don’t buy anybody they need to go for there good and the clubs price them out of moves costs us all the wages for another season.

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed.}

02 Aug 2021 20:09:44
Jordz there is more chance of you going on loan to the Championship than Elliot.

02 Aug 2021 20:21:21
😂 don’t get my hopes up Mark.