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11 Jun 2024 14:27:51
So I was watching some of Darwin's performances from his first season at benfica, and bizarrely he was exhibiting a lot of the weaknesses that make him a frustrating player for us- getting caught offside all the time, lacking composure when presented with easy chances, choosing to shoot when the pass is on but more often choosing to pass when the shot is on, running into a cul-de-sac sometimes, getting frustrated with himself and snatching at chances etc, but he also got team mates involved a lot and racked up the assists even when not scoring because of bad decisions. he was also played on the left wing instead of through the center at times and actually looked more effective having space in behind to take full backs on one v one and the. Cutting inside or delivering cutbacks
As we all know Darwin got flak from benfica fans for missing a lot, went off social media, worked on his game in the off season and turned in a blinder his last season at benfica, topping the scoring charts, lighting up the champions league, becoming the hottest non-haaland property on the market that year and then moving to us, all while continuing to develop his all around game and rectifying a lot of the faults that he showed in the season before
Oddly enough the exact same thing has happened again, maybe this sort of ebb and flow is going to take place once more? Very enigmatic and emotional player, but he's shown that when he has confidence and space to attack in front of him he can be a monster.
1.) 11 Jun 2024 17:50:57
Darwin really found his feet during the season but the final international break seemed to throw him along with a whole load of players out of form.
I think he will benefit from the new era under new coaches, without the pressure cooker environment that was created by Klopp's imminent departure.
Call me hopeful.
2.) 11 Jun 2024 18:35:16
This season coming is Darwin’s third season with us tho. He should have been doing what you said last Summer.
3.) 11 Jun 2024 21:05:42
I doubt Nunez will ever not frustrate, but as long as his numbers are good, he will always be worthy of a place in the current team.
As for his end of season dip, it happened to many, but it also coincided with us playing slow deliberate keep ball around the halfway line. Rather than looking to utilise his strengths behind the backline. We saw many times with the lethal Haaland, if you don't provide the ammunition, it's difficult to score.
4.) 12 Jun 2024 00:32:12
OP, Isn’t what you are saying basically that he hasn’t changed / improved ?
I think he has one more season to show consistency in his game awareness and scoring ability. If he doesn’t do it next season I doubt he ever will (at least for us) . we signed him for @ € 75m which is a hefty sum of money for an inconsistent return.
5.) 12 Jun 2024 06:51:17
Actually what I mean WDW is that he did improve, but then fell back into old patterns again, but the way in which he reacted to being made the target of ridicule and derision before shows that he has the ability to react. I think the issues with him are both mental and tactical, he is a player who needs confidence and needs space to attack, he’s not the kind of player to pirouette past players near the corner flag in a packed box and play one-twos in tight spaces, he needs space to run directly at defenders and the game around him has to be fast and direct rather than slow, methodical and ponderous
I think with slot keeping his wingers out wide rather than cutting into the box and the number 10 and two 8s pushing high up to feed Darwin we could see an interesting turn of events for him, though I think at the same time slot’s football is considerably less direct and more calculated than vintage klopp, so we’ll see what happens.
6.) 12 Jun 2024 09:06:21
Sirshanks, City keep the ball better than anyone and Haaland still scores more than anyone. A big difference, as well as City taking their chances, is that it's ok to do that when you're winning and not chasing games. When we are conceding so many goals keeping the ball isn't what is needed.
A lack of control at the back, in midfield and up front meant that we were often on the back foot.
7.) 12 Jun 2024 09:18:31
Make or break season for Darwin I feel.
Hopefully the new coaches can work on his confidence and composure.
He’s good enough, he needs to believe in himself and focus.
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13 Sep 2024 16:22:00
I remember that was what he claimed himself, but it seems pretty bogus if you ask me, why would he kick up such a fuss about an extra year?
12 Sep 2024 14:15:38
I might be romanticising him here and it could purely be nostalgia clouding my memory, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen Sami lose an aerial duel in our box lol, when I was young I was in awe of how dominant he was, a colossus indeed.
12 Sep 2024 11:24:24
For me my favorite players of all time are all defenders lol- cafu, aldair, zanetti, maldini, desailly, and Virgil haha
The exceptions to this list would be mcmanaman and God.
12 Sep 2024 11:01:23
I remember ed001 shared exactly how close Laudrup was to joining us and how we messed it up, wasn’t he supposed to join us straight from Denmark and somebody thought he wasn’t worth the money?
{Ed001's Note - no mate, Laudrup himself didn't feel he was good enough to play for us at the time. Strange for a self-confessed Liverpool fan, but that was the big issue.}
12 Sep 2024 08:48:04
Scifo was an amazing player, one of those players who could dribble past an entire team from deep, I only got to watch him near the tail end of his career when he played for Monaco but what a number 10!
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14 Sep 2024 08:47:05
I am pretty sure real, Spain and Bayern fans would have him in at least the top 20 ever Ed, I would say he’s in the top 10, definitely the greatest 6 of all time…I’m sure a lot of people would put Pirlo in that top 10-20, and Xabi was five times the player he was.
{Ed025's Note - im not so sure PB, a lot will depend on the age of those asked i suppose mate but while a very good player outside of Merseyside im not sure he makes many peoples list of greats..
14 Sep 2024 08:25:28
I think his attitude and his application have always been great, even stuck playing out of position after recovering from a depressing injury he didn’t make a fuss, he hasn’t become a primadonna even after the Italian press made him out to be the next poster boy of Italian football and a potentially generational icon, pretty sure all his team mates at juve liked him a lot too.
14 Sep 2024 07:03:04
I love Rafa as much as the next guy but he had some serious flaws as a manager in terms of how he handled relationships with players, if he didn’t antagonise and then freeze out Xabi in the first place he would have never wanted to leave the club, as I recall he didn’t give Xabi permission to be present at the birth of his child among other things. Rafa was a good man who did a lot for the city, but he was also a cold and aloof disciplinarian who placed football above all else, quite the opposite of Jurgen really.
12 Sep 2024 16:53:29
Fido at age 33 was surely light years ahead of zenden, who was a decent and hardworking player for us despite injuries, but won’t be remembered for much in particular.
{Ed025's Note - even at 33 he would have had a dogs life at Liverpool PB.. :)
12 Sep 2024 15:03:17
I remember we signed bolo zenden instead of figo, and then the next year we passed on signing dani alves……you couldn’t make it up, we really went through that nonsense as a fanbase.