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09 Aug 2017 03:13:50
Hi Eds, there are currently 2 contrasting reports out there. One saying that Coutinho is close to signing the deal with Barcelona and that Liverpool have accepted their bid. Another report is saying that we are resisting his sale and only a forced moved from Coutinho will see it happening as Klopp and the board would want to keep him. Obviously someone is reporting bullcrap here. Do you know which one is the real deal?
{Ed001's Note - we rejected their initial bid, no deal is agreed yet.}
1.) 09 Aug 2017 05:32:54
But they're expected to come back. we also would like to keep him, but if Coutinho forces the move we may be prepared to sell at the right price as we're unlikely to force him to stay against his will.
Geez is it so hard to keep up ;)
2.) 09 Aug 2017 06:43:33
The Spanish and Brazilian journalists are saying Coutinho deal is agreed while the English journalists insists Liverpool won't sell or haven't even held any meetings with Barcelona.
We will see in the coming days who was right.
3.) 09 Aug 2017 07:52:52
The Spanish and Brazilian media are just posting rubbish to get their fans and Barcelona fans wound up. According to Guillem Balague via Twitter, no deal has been agreed by LFC and he stated that our stance has not changed.
Per the Echo, Barcelona did not meet with our officials to do a deal and no new bid has been made and no bid has been accepted. Klopp and FSG are standing firm.
On the contrary per German outlet Bild, Barcelona officials went to Germany yesterday to do a deal for Dembele of BVB but Dortmund want reportedly 150m euros hence, almost 3/ 4 of the Neymar money. Sky Sports have daid the exact same things. This is the situation as it stands.
4.) 09 Aug 2017 13:45:52
There are also reports that Coutinho is feigning injury and has not got a back injury and is not willing to train with the club. It's all nonsense with each journalist trying to guess the breaking story to look like the knew what was happening. kind of like half on here when they were claiming to be itk in Keita and gave us numerous dates he was going to join. Some even changed their usernames 🙈🙈.
01 Aug 2017 02:48:34
Hi EDs, it is being reported that Inter made a 35mil bid for Mane. Not sure how true but I reckon it is fake news as 35mil for Mane is a joke in today's market. It would be a waste of everybody's time if it was true. They might have better luck bidding 35mil for Sakho :)
{Ed001's Note - it is nonsense, why would a team bid less than we paid for him? Unless it means pounds not euros, in which case they work in euros, so it is clearly nonsense anyway. Just ignore it, the player is not available for sale.}
1.) 01 Aug 2017 04:40:53
Cannot believe Inter's cheek (if a bid has been made in the first place) . Or the media is just being incompetent as always.
2.) 01 Aug 2017 06:02:25
Ah so this is what it feels like to be a Southampton fan during the transfer window 😉.
3.) 01 Aug 2017 07:06:53
Media see a team struggling to recruit and there best player linked elsewhere and jump on the band wagon as if we are a sinking ship.
Inter haven't even got champions league have they. The competition everyone wants to play in.
4.) 01 Aug 2017 07:40:52
Leeee that's a good question. We've been told for years that the top players didn't come to us because they wanted to play in the CL. This window however doesn't back that statement up.
5.) 01 Aug 2017 08:23:04
Jayden how hasn't it backed that up.? Salah, Van Dijk, Keita are all in that top bracket of players and want to or are playing for us. its other reasons we haven't got them all. i think macca said even Mendy was willing to come to us. the clubs dealings is the major issue this window and other bad past dealings effecting our chance of getting Sessegnon from Fulham, not the players themselves wanting to play for us.
6.) 01 Aug 2017 10:35:48
But yet salah is the only one that's signed.
7.) 01 Aug 2017 12:45:46
If we finish top four this year ( or win it which I'm optimistic about ) maybe higher than 4th. I think any players reluctant to talk with us will change tune. Could be seen, by outsiders, as a one off this year. Any player joining a top English team is taking a bit of a gamble in terms of champions league these days.
8.) 01 Aug 2017 13:15:28
It is, perhaps, the worst transfer article I've ever seen a paper come up with. At least make it £50m or something even remotely believable (I'm not valuing him at that price before I get a ton of abuse) . As Ed said, why would a club bid less/ equal to what we paid?! He had a superb season last year. It's either invented from thin air or inter are worse than us at negotiations.
9.) 01 Aug 2017 16:30:31
Smurf out of the 3 players you named we've signed 1 of them. Good point that mate.
10.) 01 Aug 2017 23:08:28
U obviously didn't understand wat im saying mate. its not about the players wanting to join us cos all of them have been willing to. its other reasons why the others haven't joined.
11.) 04 Aug 2017 04:48:51
Its from the Express basically the 90minsdotcom of the newspaper world. If they told me grass was green I wouldn't believe them.
16 Apr 2015 08:27:32
hi Eds, I read that Arsenal are also interested to sign Milner. I'm sure they will have the upper hand if it is true as they are almost guaranteed a CL spot. Any truth in the rumour?
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any interest from them.}
1.) 16 Apr 2015 09:23:36
No one else showing real intetest at this stage then ed? I think he would be a good addition if we can get him, do you?
{Ed002's Note - Manchester City were looking for James Milner to agree a new contract but they accepted that he won't. There is interest from Valencia (although I think they have now moved on), Roma (with rekindled interest), Inter and from Liverpool - his wage demands might be an issue.}
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08 Aug 2019 14:35:42
I guess there's only outs and no more incoming players. Hopefully our players will remain fit, in form and have no suspensions to deal with. Let's Go!
1.) 08 Aug 2019 15:03:35
We should be OK in terms of suspension as we've finished top for Fair Play in every full season under Klopp. I am concerned if we were to run into long term injuries to either TAA or Robertson, but I'm also optimistic about the youngsters we have ready to fill the void, we won't really know if they're ready until we give them a go. Can't wait for tomorrow!
2.) 08 Aug 2019 15:33:16
Fabinho will get a few.
06 Apr 2018 02:56:19
IMO, ideally I would want a really stable core of players and if we can reach a stage where we just need to upgrade 1 or 2 players every transfer window, that will be the best.
As much as we're doing good so far, the team is far from flawless. I would assume that there will be a couple of ins and outs and tinkering to take place. Ultimately, I hope with our CL progression and hopefully being in the top 4 again will help us get the players we want and need.
Most of the players that are rumoured to leave such as Migs, Moreno, Ward or Lovren/ Matip does not bother me one bit. I would have hoped that Can will stay but I'm resigned to the fact that he has probably played his last game for the club. The important thing is to get upgraded replacements. So far Klopp's transfers have been pretty spot on. So, he has my vote of confidence.
Again, just because we got so far in the CL and we're doing quite well in the Prem League this season does not really show that we have enough depth in the squad. We were lucky that Coutinho's sale did not backfire and we've been able to deal with injuries so far. But with the injury list growing, hopefully the owners will see that we need some more reinforcements in the summer.
17 Aug 2017 03:44:22
Hi EDs, Barca's General Manager is openly saying that Coutinho is 'close' to signing but FSG and Klopp has insisted that he is not for sale. If we are really not interested to accept any bid from Barca, couldn't we report Barcelona for unsettling our player with such comments?
{Ed001's Note - unsettling our player? You really have not kept up with the situation, it is Couts that wanted to go to them. They have not needed to unsettle him as his agent has made sure to tout him to the Catalans at every opportunity, as it is the move Couts wants. We are just posturing to get the best deal.}
1.) 17 Aug 2017 05:43:15
Surely it's just a matter of time now and Barca's results against Real might make them more desperate to get the deal done asap. I understand the lure of playing for them but this could be one of their weakest teams for a while it might not turn out to be the dream move he hopes. I do wish him all the best let's hope we be very unliverpool like and spend the money wisely on top quality in positions we need.
2.) 17 Aug 2017 05:57:27
Coutinho will be going and we knew this a couple of seasons ago.
Barcelona will up the bid and he will be off, then the money will be used on van dijk and keita.
3.) 17 Aug 2017 06:03:03
I agree with you I think Barcelona are in a transitional phase, their best players over the last 5 years are all approaching 30 or older and they are not bringing through the same young players they used to. Unfortunately for him he'll be joining them at the wrong time.
{Ed001's Note - his choice to do so at the end of the day, but I do agree and I have to wonder why his advisors are not telling him the same thing.}
4.) 17 Aug 2017 06:32:18
Both Barcelona and Coutinho are about to make a massive mistake in my opinion.
5.) 17 Aug 2017 06:58:47
Having watched the game ed, I don't want Rakatic. He is all the things you said he is, slow and passive to say the least. Shows how poor they are as they had him and Gomes both off the surplus list playing. Woukd rather just the money.
{Ed001's Note - I do wonder what happened to him, he is not that old that it should have affected him yet.}
6.) 17 Aug 2017 07:29:08
He's staying at LFC ðŸ‘.
7.) 17 Aug 2017 07:29:18
To be fair to Rakitic, he's had to do the running for five extra players for three years now, so it's no wonder his legs have gone.
8.) 17 Aug 2017 07:35:14
I can't understand why anyone would want Rakitic in the deal. Would be a really bad deal. He just doesn't look like he has the legs to play in top flight competition.
9.) 17 Aug 2017 08:02:29
I agree about rakitic. Looked ineffective but so did all there players. Even messi and suarez had little effect. On the other hand how good were madrid! Luka Modric is such a classy player. One of the best for me.
10.) 17 Aug 2017 08:11:29
Is this possibly why neymar jumped ship ed, because he realised they were on the decline or was that purely about money?
{Ed001's Note - that was 100% about money.}
11.) 17 Aug 2017 08:29:34
Didn't need to watch yesterday's game to know that Rakitic is crap. He has been crap for a few seasons now and players like him, Gomez, Turan, Vidal (dross players), Masche, Pique, Alba (all over the hill) are the reasons why Barcelona will be seeing RM's dust this season and the next few to come. As for Cou, Ed has said we are just trying to get the best deal and Cou has poisoned the waters here and he will have too own that part of this saga.
12.) 17 Aug 2017 08:35:35
Ok i see, and with agents fees etc it must have turned out to be too good to resist especially with them all having problems with the tax man at Barcelona lol. Thanks ed.
{Ed001's Note - and his dad likes to get paid.}
13.) 17 Aug 2017 08:49:03
Agree 110% BingoRed. The only thing that concerns me is that we may well get close to 150 million euros, but then how do you spend that with about a week of the transfer window to go? The sensible thing would have been to do what Everton did, make the purchases that you want to make, then if you know that you are going to sell the family silver, at least you won't get mugged by all and sundry because they know you have a wallet full of cash. Every team that we then approach for players will try and rinse us if they know we are cash rich because of Coutinho. I wonder if anyone at the club has any acumen at all.
14.) 17 Aug 2017 09:38:21
"Just posturing to get the best deal". Sounds quite final ed😂🤔.
15.) 17 Aug 2017 11:18:43
Dennis, you may be correct there. The way it will be is that when Cou is finally sold, other teams will stick us for every penny of that Cou cash and we will be worse for it as we may have to overpay to get our targets, which is the worst scenario possible.
11 Aug 2017 16:34:08
Seems like the transfer request is true. Gutted that he is forcing a move away from Liverpool. I guess when clubs like Barca/ Real come knocking, it'll surely unsettle players. Just wonder why Coutinho signed a new contract without a release clause if he was looking to engineer a move away from Anfield?
As a fan, I'm utterly disappointed and I'm sure it will impact the team but we'll just have to soldier on. We've been trough this when Torres, Suarez and Sterling left. It'll take time to rebuild but there's nothing much we can do about it.
1.) 11 Aug 2017 16:50:21
He signed it because of an increase in wages and a signing on bonus. Same thing Suarez did. It's kind of ridiculous to give such a reward to a player and then 5 months later they hand in a TR. Part of me wants to sell him and be rid, part of me doesn't want him to put the shirt on again. And part of me wants to keep him and forget all this happened in 2 months.
09 Aug 2017 02:38:24
Unless Coutinho forces a move, I think it would be rather stupid to sell him even for the 120mil that some sources are reporting. Yes, that's a lot of money but we don't really need it? Say we went ahead to sell him, who are we going to get as his replacement? Anyone decent is going to cost us a chunk of that money we'll get for coutinho. its a chain effect. We will demand more from Barcelona and other clubs will demand more from us. So at the end of the day, if we re-invest the money from Coutinho's sale, where does it leave us? If RBL can resist the money, I hope we'll do the same.
1.) 09 Aug 2017 06:41:55
I hope we do indeed resist the sale of Coutinho, but from past experiences, Liverpool always are ready for a deal if enough money is offered.
2.) 09 Aug 2017 07:05:00
I hear ya, but what if we found a bargain replacement? Is Lanzini good enough for example and at what cost? Can he be replaced from within? Can the money go towards other needed positions such as a top CB?
I'm just happy the season is about to start.
3.) 09 Aug 2017 07:14:08
We don't need it?
Both the Keita and VVD deal have failed because we are not willing to pay to get them over the line, yes the others teams want over the odds but that is always the case when Liverpool come knocking.
As much as I would love to keep Coutinho, I am beginning to look at what we could do with the money. If the lad we signed for around £8.5m goes for anywhere near £120m then we are looking at fixing our defense and a replacement for him in midfield. Defense has been our problem for a long time, not attack, we have an ideal opportunity here to bring in the funds needed to fix that.
Not saying I want Coutinho to go but I can see positives either way, as you must when following football in the modern era, contracts do not mean loyalty and one player leaving does not mean the end of the world.
4.) 09 Aug 2017 07:42:18
Keita and VVD deals not happening are nothing to do with us not wanting to spend money. We obviously do
Southampton don't want him to go, and we tapped him up, not about money
RBL don't want to sell and don't need the money (due to ownership), we've offered well over the odds for him.
5.) 09 Aug 2017 08:24:06
I do not believe Southampton will be keeping Van Dijk now. I doubt their fans are happy with him and he will be a rotten egg if he was allowed in the dressing room.
Southampton knew he wanted to leave last season. All they are probably doing now is waiting for the bids to come in. He has set his heart on Liverpool so VVD can reject any offer that comes in from another club then they sit with a player for a season who might not even make the bench. He could also request that Soton sells him to Liverpool.
There are many twists and turns ahead before the window shuts and we most definitely have not heard the last from Liverpool re VVD.
6.) 09 Aug 2017 08:30:29
The OP is bang on the money. What he s]described is exactly what is happening to Barcelona now as BVB want 150m for Dembele cos they know that they are flush with cash from the Neymar money. We sell Cou now, any replacement we try to land (Lanzini is not good enough to carry Cou's back pack, neither is Siguurdsson, Meyer, Rakitic or whoever apart from Eriksen from Spurs) will cost the Cou fee as that club will do the same thing BVB is doing to Barcelona now. We will regret selling him cos there will be no adequate replacement for him and we will be left to either panic buy or hang on to "dead money".
Andy, you are patently wrong. The VVD and Keita deals did not go through cos we tapped both of them up and the clubs refused to sell to us at any price esp. RBL whose CEO came out to veto the deal despite Naby Keita crying that he wanted to go so stop posting falsehoods in order to slate the club's heirachy as they were ready to back Klopp on both deals. Also, stop fooling yourself with "what we can do with the money" thing as that is a false narrative. Look at Barca, they have the Neymar money and they can't use it well cos every other club like BVB for example, wants most of it for Dembele. See how that works? We will be in the same boat with Cou hence, we must keep him.
12 Mar 2022 09:35:55
If LFC can't afford the wages he's demanding, then he'll have to leave. Simple as that. We need to plan for the squad and the future. Having said that, I hope if Mo really loves playing for Liverpool, then he should understand the way the club works. He's still going to be the highest paid Liv player ever and should be looking at the possibility of winning titles as a bonus if he stays.
18 Feb 2022 07:12:03
We should just sell Gomez and keep Nat Philips. Instead, we are doing it the other way around. Gomez is too injury prone and can't even stay fit for a full season. He is decent but decent is not good enough, especially with all the time spent on the sideline.？
20 Jan 2022 15:13:29
On paper, he's said to be among the elite footballers of the world but in reality he's just a nightmare. Clearly the boy has talent but looking at how he disrespected Dortmund to force his way to Barca, and now he's trying to milk Barcelona after being injured so frequently, I just don't see why clubs even bother anymore. His attitude is poor and his wage demands are high plus his injury records are horrendous. That's a recipe for disaster, so it is a clear NO if you ask me.
14 Jan 2022 02:21:29
Is any player worth >200k/ week? Technically speaking NO but the reality is, clubs are paying insane money for players. Now, based on the insane world of football, is Salah worth 400k/ week? Absolutely! We know that he'll easily get that or more if he moves to a richer club.
Now, from a club's point of view, should they break the bank to pay a player that sort of money? I think if you want to be a successful club, you have to invest and you have to keep up with the rest. If LFC wants to be one of the best clubs in the world, they should buy and invest accordingly.
If they want to do a Leicester or Ajax, then don't be surprised that they cash in on players after winning some titles. As the saying goes, you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
{Ed0666's Note - It would be an extremely brave board not to give Salah the contract he wants within reason. Regardless of the eye watering financials of it. Of course they will do it if it makes sense to them but if they don’t then I’m sure they’ll own the decision and move well all have to wipe out tears and move on.
16 Dec 2021 06:17:26
WDW, yes it may seem like he paid a heavy price for a very important game. It was very unfortunate but he needs to shoulder some responsibilities. If he doesn't feel fit to continue, he should have asked to be subbed out. So, ultimately he did cost us the game or at least he's the scapegoat.
He didn't do himself any favors as his loans stints did not work out well at all. So, I suppose that's why he doesn't really have suitors. I do pity him but he should just leave and try to restart his career.
07 Jun 2017 04:45:04
Thanks for the reply Ed001, so in that case we can bury all the Pulisic and Aubameyang rumours. Not like we were going to sign him anyway :)
{Ed001's Note - he wouldn't sign Aubameyang anyway, he is a problem to deal with that Klopp simply would not want. You know he missed a Champions League game this season because he was out on the lash in Milan instead don't you?}