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22 Sep 2014 12:48:36
Eds, is Ron-Robert Zieler a possibility? I think ed001 said we may have looked at him in the past, not sure on that though.

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - No.}


 

 

26 Aug 2014 15:26:51
Ed002/001, with Cech being available, and Liverpool seemingly being interested in a GK, is it even remotely possible that we may look to him to resolve that? I understand Romero is of interest & it's unlikely that we've ever shown an interest, but I'm just wondering if it's impossible.

Cheers,

YNWA

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{Ed002's Note - The interest in Cech is from Real Madrid, Monaco and PSG. Not from Liverpool.}


 

 

31 Jul 2014 11:33:47
I am told we are set to reenter negotiations with Sevilla following Bertrand's loan to Southampton.

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1.) 31 Jul 2014 14:27:53
If we r aspas is doing all he can to tell him to stay away from Liverpool.


2.) Hope so . rate moreno highly


3.) Yeah Tommy, can't see a welcome way back for Aspas. if there was ever one.
No class.


 

 

 

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25 May 2020 21:12:07
Ed001 with all the talk around Werner, it looks like we are looking to bring in another forward.

IF he were to come I am struggling to see where he plays in the medium-long term. One option I did think of was perhaps moving Firmino to more of a '10' position, however it seems Werner is similar in liking to drop into the midfield - would they just end up getting in each others way?

With our front 3 all going into next season at 28 I can see the need to integrate another top class forward soon, but I can't see Werner being happy to sit on the bench for a season or so before starting in the 'big' matches. What do you guys think?

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{Ed001's Note - Werner can play wide and up top, it just gives Klopp options and the chance to rest one of the 3 when needed.}


1.) 26 May 2020 14:31:14
Mane and Salah will go to afcon so we will need him anyone saying bobby origi and mini will do us need to give their head a wobble.


2.) 26 May 2020 18:52:34
Jaydub. I think you're right, but I still think big div, Bobby and minamino could be devastating. Especially Bobby and mino. If they get their link up play working well they could be phenomenal. And Bobby and origi are good on the air too. But we have brewster who either comes back and does a job. Or more likely I imagine, we sign another striker. Werner would be my choice as he is so versatile. And klopp likes that eh.


3.) 26 May 2020 20:10:13
Alisson
TAA
Gomez
VVD
Robbo
Henderson
Fabinho
Ox
Mane
Bobby
Salah.


4.) 26 May 2020 20:36:38
Maybe Werner backs himself to take Bobby's role in the team.


 

 

31 Jul 2019 21:50:55
Eds and Reds -

First of all, good way to finish pre-season if you ask me. I was particularly impressed with Hoever in the RB role. I think it's refreshing to see a number of youngsters potentially providing cover for Trent and Robertson. Also nice to see Alisson's got his nightmare out of the way early (🤞) .

I was wondering what everyone thinks of Lallana as an option to play as a '6'? I never really thought about it before however, now that I have, I think he *could* develop into a good option. If you ask me, he's got at least as good technique as anyone in the squad - very helpful in getting the team out of tight spots. If he can improve his defending we could have a somewhat unique option to play the role. I was also impressed to see him move the ball about relatively quickly.

I'd love to know Ed001's thoughts if he's around.

FORNAX

{Ed001's Note - he has always been a grafter willing to track back and cover, so I don't see why he can't play a central midfielder role, but not sure what a '6' is? He presses well, can pass, so long as he doesn't get caught up taking too many touches he would be fine there.}


1.) 31 Jul 2019 22:20:36
I would rather see Fabinho in the deeper role personally and Lallana playing slightly forward, where Milner plays.

Fabinho can break down play and start attacks just as well as Lallana can, but is also tall enough to deal with any long balls pumped forward, allowing the CB’s keep an eye on forwards running in behind and can focus on cleaning up any secondary balls.


2.) 31 Jul 2019 22:20:53
Against certain defensive setups, having Lallana in a deeper role could really help us. I don't think, having recovered from a series of injuries, playing him ninety minutes in an attacking role is all that beneficial, especially considering the options we have in that position already. The only thing that hinders his growth in that position is Henderson and Milner already playing the deeper roles, but I've always respected Adam's talent and mental fortitude, so I think we can see him return to form there. He's certainly hardworking enough to do it.


3.) 31 Jul 2019 23:18:23
He doesn’t have to be central. Look at how many times last season Gini and Milner would be in full back areas getting the ball allowing Robbo and Trent to get forward more. Fabinho can still sit in the middle.


4.) 01 Aug 2019 04:44:12
I'm not sure on wether that role would suit him. He has always shown he's very good at hassling and winning the ball back. But so often that was in an advanced role where he had licence to just chase the man with the ball knowing there was always 2 midfielders behind him. In a deep role you need a level of awareness and positional discipline, know when to chase the ball and know when to stand off. I'm not sure if he has that positional adaptability or not.

It's an interesting question though. Players like arteta, cazorla, modric, pjanic all were attacking midfielders who have thrived when moved into a deeper role.


5.) 01 Aug 2019 19:47:26
I think Hoever could be quite good at RB even tho it was clear vs Lyon, that it is a position that he is still adjusting to. What impressed me in the Lyon game was the level of fitness that was in the whole team. There was pace, tempo, power, zip in the passes and the press was much better. This told me that the boys' fitness levels were coming along fine. Shaq and Naby looked fit and strong in the time they were on and Salah is till well, Salah. Bobby may still need some time to get up to speed but all in all, it was a great run out for the whole team. The result? Not arsed.


 

 

04 Jan 2019 18:12:56
Belated happy new year Eds and Reds, hope you all had a good one.

Just thought I'd add some more noise around the game last night, and I suppose the title challenge overall.

I personally feel as though the team were more than happy with a draw from the beginning, and it showed. Although we were reasonably solid, we are talking about City and I was disappointed that we didn't adopt an approach more akin to previous seasons as it has generally worked against them. Ed001 mentioned that Klopp was screaming at them to take the game to City, but I think that he was indirectly responsible with the selection in midfield. I personally thought we'd have been better served with Fabinho from the start, although I did think he would go for Milner.

Having said that, the team did well to get back in it and you couldn't say it was undeserved. When we started playing our game we created enough chances to at least get something from the game. City were evidently up for it and playing at home. It's clear to anyone that 7 or 10 points would have been a tough deficit to overcome and they

Even with the result we are still 4 points ahead, and we don't have to play them again. If the team do what they have shown they can, quickly recover from disappointing results, there won't be an issue. City tend to fade as the season goes on, and personally I think Pep is desperate to win the Champions League. If he gets an opportunity then I'd wager that would be his priority.

I think we can do this, and I have faith that Klopp will get the team refocused quickly.

Apologies for the lengthy post, YNWA.

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23 Sep 2018 13:17:35
So happy with the win yesterday! We got the job done in the first half and then completely controlled the game in the second. Shaqiri was brilliant, and it was a shame that the decision had to be taken to revert back to the familiar team.

Ed001 - with us playing Chelsea mid-week and then again on Saturday, do you expect many changes to the squad for the league cup game?

FORNAX

{Ed001's Note - yes mate. I think there will be a fair few changes.}


1.) 23 Sep 2018 13:49:23
Love to really test our depth.

No vvd, no Salah or mane.

Get shaqiri on, see how the lads defend without the beast and attack without the gods.

If there's one game between now and city that we can rest a few unfortunately it's this game. Just doesn't mean anything to us with cl and premier league going like they are.

Got Chelsea, napoli and city next.


2.) 23 Sep 2018 13:52:59
I’ll be honest. I’d like to see 11 changes for the league cup. It is just not worth it. Maybe it was 10/ 15 year so ago, but we’ve far bigger fish to these days.


3.) 23 Sep 2018 15:30:57
We haven't won a trophy in years. Daft to discount anything imo. Just say we end up with nothing at the end of the season and treated the League Cup with contempt?


4.) 23 Sep 2018 15:38:52
But imagine we push on with the league cup and Salah breaks his leg on Wednesday.

How worth it was any time won this trophy when United when and 2on the title. Did it do us any favours at all.

It's a Mickey mouse cup. Means nothing. Sorry but that's fact.

The prem is all we can focus on.


5.) 23 Sep 2018 15:44:02
And if Firmino breaks his leg against Chelsea’s second string on Wednesday you’ll still feel the same rover?
I put the league over even the champions league. Blood sweat an tears need to be lost at Chelsea and city in the league, not a trophy that’s had more names than I’ve had hot dinners.


6.) 23 Sep 2018 15:57:02
Firming or Salah could break their leg in any game. It's a bit of a daft comment really.


7.) 23 Sep 2018 16:07:40
We have a deep enough squad to play a decent side.

I’d go with resting our FBs and VVD and our front 3 and play Shaqiri in behind twin strikers

Allison
Moreno, Gomez, Matip, Clyne
Fabinho, Keita, Gini
Shaqiri
Solanke, Sturridge.


8.) 23 Sep 2018 16:47:16
Thanks for the reply Ed, looking forward to your match review!

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}


9.) 23 Sep 2018 16:55:00
The point us if it happens in a game that matters then there's nothing you can do.

Why does he need to play Wednesday.

It's pointless. Imagine losing him or any first team player in a game as meaningless as that.


10.) 23 Sep 2018 17:10:00
Agreed SGRed, I'd be happy to see something like that too mate.


11.) 23 Sep 2018 17:43:46
The league Cup is mickey mouse, fact.

Sorry but that is rubbish. The league Cup is pretty much Liverpool's trophy. I promise you this, the players will not be focusing on this comp or that comp. They want them all.

Yes it offers the least reward but it is a top end trophy, one to be proud of. Remember utd in the 90s, they always won the first trophy of the season. Same as us in the 80s.

I think it's a chance to play some fringe players because you usually come up against Peterborough or Rochdale but this is Chelsea. It will be a good game I think.


12.) 23 Sep 2018 18:53:38
Rest key players so they are fresh for the 'bigger' games coming up not because you are scared they get injured. Play the fringe players to keep them sharp and hungry. Not knocking the league cup but it was the last trophy we won and then KK got the boot.


13.) 23 Sep 2018 19:01:18
Point is we have won that pleanty of times and sod all else.

We have treated it with the up most respect and watched someone else win the title to many times.

Couldn't give a flying fudge if we win it, like don't care. Get the kids out, hopefully lose and keep your focus exactly where it needs to be.


14.) 23 Sep 2018 19:28:13
I think we have won the League more than the League Cup. Maybe we shouldn't bother winning that either?


15.) 23 Sep 2018 19:39:03
Migs
Clyne Matip Gomez Moreno
Fabinho Keita Wijnaldum
Shaqiri Sturridge Origi.


16.) 23 Sep 2018 19:54:21
I'd almost agree completely SGRed
Except I think Gini needs a rest more than Hendo so

Allison
Moreno, Gomez, Matip, Clyne
Fabinho, Keita, Hendo
Shaqiri
Solanke, Sturridge.


17.) 23 Sep 2018 20:17:55
anyone not named Google remembereho won the leagu cup last year? I dont.
they shoul rename it to the consolation cup.
mah kidding, but seriously I think we have to ne pragmatic about it. Rest and rotate but put a team out to win. Injuries can happen in any game. I mean Firmino jist about lost an eye in the league last week! It should be more about mental prep and energy.


18.) 23 Sep 2018 20:59:26
We haven't won the league in almost 30 years.

We have player 6 won 6.

Name me a better start since we last won the league.

And you want to ass around with the bloody league cup trophy 🤣🤣 good god.

I would walk away from the champs league, vs cup and league cup right this fing second if it means the league. Simple.


19.) 23 Sep 2018 21:26:45
Each to their own of course, everybody is making valid points but on this occasion I have to agree with Kloppsboss, I'd love us to go ahead and win the league cup but do we need it as a distraction? I'm not sure, personally I think it's one of them competitions which is past it's sell by date.

I want us to try and win every single game no matter what game or cup it is but the league has to be the priority. This doesn't mean I'm saying forget the league cup and we shouldn't try because after all it is a bit of silverware but it's all about the league for me.

If it meant us getting knocked out early on and we go and win the league, I think the majority would take that :) just a daft scenario for you all to ignore but you know what I'm saying.


20.) 23 Sep 2018 22:43:12
Just to clarify, if the squad win the league cup then brilliant.

But we do not need our starter team having that extra worry.

I honestly would put the academy, fringe players and squad players out and see what happens

Mignolet
Clyne Matip Phillips Moreno
Fabinho
Shaqiri Curtis lallana origi
Sturridge

Wouldn't even put Salah, mane or firmino on the bench. I would give them the night off.

Where we are now is extremely good, but very rarely are you in a position like we are where you have had no-one want to leave. I honestly believe if we win the league we can keep them all but if we don't and especially if we win nothing, then the Madrid start knocking, our team That's been assembled could be really knocked with 1 or 2 leaving.

Mane and Salah spring to mind. Someone asked why city have never struggled with the lure of the Spanish club's for their players. Money played a part but it's the title guys! That's it. You win titles and players stay. You consistently get cl finals and semi finals then big players join.

You ass around in 4 competitions, and win nothing. Well.

Jack of all trades, master of none.

Go get the league boys. It's that simple.

That cements us and klopp for the absolute long term. project complete.


21.) 24 Sep 2018 01:12:11
Thought at least two of that team are currently injured Kloppsboss? Yes let’s win the league cup but let’s plsy some of the second string too. Not Gomez though, he’s too precious. Phillips is well worth a good run out.


22.) 24 Sep 2018 09:41:10
Only thing we’ve won in 10 years and you disrespect it?

Some of the worst injuries happen in training, perhaps we should stop Salah and Firmino from training?

Winning is a habit. Keep it going as long as you can. Use the squad, but that doesn’t mean 10 changes.


23.) 24 Sep 2018 15:40:47
It’s not a daft comment at all. I’d rather they broke a leg an won 3 points, rather than winning a pointless game that can end up 120 minutes long, writing off players for the next two weeks.
Get the nostalgia crap out of ya, it is not a major trophy, nor do we have the bench that Man City boasted yesterday to try and compete on the 4 fronts.
I’ve no problem going for the fa cup, that actually has some worth.


 

 

28 Aug 2017 14:43:15
Paul Joyce has come out and said that Liverpool have agreed a club record deal to sign Keita next season 🤔.

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19 May 2020 12:41:47
I personally think Gomez could rise to the challenge.

Of course Carlos would expect to arrive as a starter but, as you've pointed out, klopp has broken promises in the past. It would be up to Gomez to raise his level as Klopp has also shown that he doesn't pick the team based on price.

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18 May 2020 15:00:48
Thanks for the info Ed, really interesting. I can see what you're saying with regards to Allan, however would this issue not be eased by the prospective transfer fee? Also would our strong Brazilian contingent (albeit significantly older) make Liverpool an attractive destination?

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{Ed002's Note - He is a child who would have to suffer significant cultural changes, language issues - it would not be a good move for him but we will see. I also don't see that Liverpool would want to tie up significant money in a player who cannot move before he is 18 and would be far from the first team.}


 

 

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25 Sep 2019 19:26:03
Interesting information Red67, thanks for sharing! Makes me think about the Wijnaldum goal against Cardiff last season, the players spotted the opportunity and felt empowered by the management to make a tactical decision.

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27 Jul 2019 16:57:34
I think a lot of people are forgetting just how good the Ox was playing before he was injured. Without one of Keita or Ox moving, I don't think there's space in that place in the midfield. I can't really see where we can obviously strengthen the first 11.

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09 Jun 2018 19:40:12
Dunno if it is completely off, could just be a negotiation maneuver by Lyon.

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13 Jun 2020 21:43:49
I think people are pretty desperate for member berries at the moment ArAy, and think it would provide some welcome familiarity. It really is strange hearing nothing but the players in a stadium.

A possible upshot of all this is we may get some decent innovation in tech around match day experience, so I welcome the test. I would take a Virtual seat at Anfield if it meant I could actually get a ticket!

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10 Jun 2020 17:42:48
But he scores good free kicks once or twice a season Ed!

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10 Jun 2020 04:29:37
I heard that Werner's move to Chelsea is on advice from his otolaryngologist.

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03 Jun 2020 12:24:57
Dirk Kuyt - I think some people were underwhelmed with his arrival given his goal scoring record at Feyenoord but he had an incredible work ethic, was technically good and never went missing in the big games.

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24 Apr 2020 23:11:19
Season was 05/ 06. We entered the competition in a very unusual way at the time (i. e. Champions of Europe, finishing 5th in the Premier League) . I can't remember exactly how we were drawn with Chelsea, perhaps Ed001/ 2 will remember more clearly but I think it was possibly because we had to play qualifiers?

The matches didn't live up to their billing. 0-0 at Anfield and Stamford Bridge. We went through as group winners by a point.

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