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06 May 2020 18:59:17
Hi Ed2
Saw some news reports about Talles Magno from VDG being available at a lower price than you'd usually expect for a Brazilian prospect. I notice that you previously posted something in Feb that sides were quoted €65m.
1. Is there any update on your previous reply?
2. What are the rules with 17 year olds moving from Brazil?
Thanks.

Brommers

{Ed002's Note - Talles Magno (S/W) Vasco de Gama kiddie who has been subject to discussions with Lyon's Sporting Director Juninho and Real Madrid who want him to join and pair up with Reinier Jesus and Rodrygo to ease the transition. Lazio and Roma enquired after a price and were quoted €65M but it went no further than that and realistically it would need to be less than half that. Benfica, Manchester City, Braga, Liverpool, Juventus, Chelsea and Bayern Munich were impressed with him enough at the U17 World Cup to continue to watch him at club level. I would suggest the chances of him moving to Europe would be influenced by compatriots at Real Madrid or the lure of Juninho at OL. Benfica have offered the best opportunity to get through in to the first team. I cannot assess the chances of a move to any of the other sides.

17 year olds cannot move from Brazil.}


 

 

 

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02 Feb 2020 19:00:05
Thank you Jose. 1 step closer to glory.
I'm sure that'll be winding him up on the inside even after a good win today.

Brommers

1.) 02 Feb 2020 19:23:25
Why a thank you to Jose, Man City totally self destruct today.


2.) 02 Feb 2020 20:28:31
The way ManC played today reminded me of our play last year and the year before. Over 60-70% of possession, controlling and dictating the game throughout, and yet coming away with a draw or a loss.


 

 

22 Dec 2019 09:16:40
If someone would have told you 4 years ago (when Klopp signed) that we'd have won the champions league and would be the best team in Europe who could have believed that? It is a far stretch for even the most positive of fans.

What has happened to our club in a short space of time is incredible and long may it continue. All those involved have played their part in those 4 years from the owners, manager, management team, players and other staff.
Winning the league this season would cap a brilliant few years. Plus it would prove to me that Klopp is a better manager than Pep. We are so lucky to have him.

Brommers

1.) 22 Dec 2019 11:42:46
Alex Ferguson, didn't he say at the time he was worried about us getting Klopp 🙂.


2.) 22 Dec 2019 12:37:44
Klopp is a better manager than pep. All day.

{Ed025's Note - thats subjective robbie, if it goes on things won pep is miles better mate..so what are you basing that on?..


3.) 22 Dec 2019 12:49:35
As Pep built a team?

{Ed025's Note - has any manager MR?, a lot of even klopps team he inherited, its a progressional thing mate..


4.) 22 Dec 2019 12:54:07
ED25 - I'd say Klopp is better if we win the league this season. That is because he took over a club in 8th position with some bog standard players. He has obviously had cash to spend but nothing like the resources City have spent in the same period. And Klopp has had to sell players at the same time whereas Pep has only sold because he wanted to.
Pep is one hell of a manager, they play amazing football and there isn't much in it but the jump in quality and results has been higher at LFC than City.

{Ed025's Note - as i say brommers its how you look at it, peps trophy haul is second to none but i love klopps enthusiasm and charisma and he has worked miracles at liverpool mate..


5.) 22 Dec 2019 18:37:10
Ed25, I take your point. Pep was born with a managerial silver spoon in his mouth cos he inherited a Barcelona team that was supremely talented and 2 years removed from beating Arsenal in the CL final 2 years before. That team was brilliant and Xavi, Iniesta, Henry, Eto'o and a rising Messi were all in that team. That was in 2008.

Klopp on the other hand took over a penniless (compared to their rivals) Mainz and got them promoted to the Bundesliga, something they should not have been able to achieve based on the club's standing back then.

While Pep took over a brilliant Barcelona team in 2008, Klopp took over AGAIN, a cash-strapped BVB who had finished 13th the season before. We all know what BVB would later become after that. Pep then went to the best club in Germany (also with the most money and the best players in the league) and Klopp could not challenge Bayern anymore as they were poaching his players. Pep wa spoaching Klopp's players. Think about that.

Then, Pep takes over an immensely expensive City squad while Klopp took over a crap LFC team with players down on their luck and we know the rest. Pep is brilliant, no doubt BUT if KLopp wins the PL this season against Pep, it will then be clear that Klopp is the better manager hands down, IMO. Why? Simple. Klopp started 25 points behind Pepp and by then, he would have left him in the dirt should he win the PL. We shall see.

{Ed025's Note - its a tough one to call RM, as you know im a massive klopp fan but most people would judge them on trophies won and pep romps it if we go by that, we do have to get away from the pep can only do it with money thing though mate, fact is that VVD, alisson and keita cost more than any player pep has ever bought, so people in glass houses and all that..


6.) 22 Dec 2019 19:24:13
11 points ed025 and a cl trophy. Klopp won the coach of the year. Its subjective true and its my opinion. When klopp first came his tactics that got us competing against the top teams. It was class. And he's showed he can handle a top team with some of the world's best players.

{Ed025's Note - i cant argue with that robbie..


7.) 22 Dec 2019 21:01:17
Ed25, I fully agree with you there. However, this is why I try not to use trophies to compare managers cos well, context matters. It's like using stats. they don't always tell the whole story, as they say. Here's an example. Luis Enrique (a pretty mediocre manager who had failed at Roma and Celta after leaving the Barcelona youth setup), just like Pep did in 2008 took over Barcelona in 2014 after a dreadful season. He still had Xavi, Iniesta Messi and Neymar in the team. He then signed Suarez and Rakitic as well.

What did Enrique achieve that 1st season? He won the treble and won 5 trophies in that calendar year 2015, just like Pep did after his first season. Do you see anyone with functioning brain saying LE and Pep are at the same level? That would be a no. If anyone said LE was better than Klopp as a manager based on his trophy haul alone, you'll be the running joke at the local pub. Btw, Klopp has * major trophies on his CV which is nothing to sneeze at, IMO but that is a side note.

So what am I saying? Trophy hauls do not tell the whole story of who is better between two managers. So for me, the best way to compare two managers is to judge them based on how they improve their players and teams, what is the trajectory of the team during their tenure (is it trending up, down or stagnant), Where did the manager find the team and in what state did he leave them and on these levels, Klopp is hands down the better manager, IMO. The facts are undisputed.

{Ed025's Note - thats just using stats to promote your own agenda RM, i get it of course because your a red and want the best for your club, but to me its a bit like my dad can fight your dad in the school playground mate, at this moment in time pep will be seen by neutrals as the better coach/manager, but who knows if klopp maintains the progress he has been making and hauls in a load of trophies he could well end up the better man..


8.) 22 Dec 2019 21:57:06
Ed25, did you even read what I wrote? I literally said that using trophy hauls to judge a manager is not the best way IMO, cos like using stats, it does not tell the whole story. Yet you accuse me of "using stats" to support my point. Good grief! How did you miss that? Nowhere did I use stats to say that Klopp was better than Pep.

I specifically used other factors like this "judge them based on how they improve their players and teams, what is the trajectory of the team during their tenure (is it trending up, down or stagnant), Where did the manager find the team and in what state did he leave them". Did you even read what I posted, man?

Either way like I said if Klopp wins the PL, he would have validated his status as the best manager over Pep IMO cos as I said, Pep had 25 points advantage over Klopp 3 years ago. Should he win the PL, he would have not just caught up with Pep's team BUT left Pep in his wake. Just my opinion supported by facts and figures.

{Ed025's Note - ok then using figures...its the same difference, it suits your agenda to not use stats on this occasion, all you waffle on about there is speculation and conjecture based on your opinion and thats fine by me, but i am not going to tell you either that everton are a more successful team in the league than liverpool, because liverpool have won more titles than us...do you see where im going?..


9.) 23 Dec 2019 16:23:22
I'd argue that Klopp has done more with what he inherited than Pep has done with City. Pep has a fantastic record, but the side he inherited was in a much better place than Liverpool. I'm not ready to say that Klopp is a better manager, but he has done more with less in my opinion.


 

 

31 Jan 2019 21:16:41
Question for Ed002 please if you are about.

Can you tell me how wages for loan deals are agreed between the player's agent, parent club and loaning club please?

I'd always assumed that the loaning club paid an agreed percentage of the player's existing contract (0-100%) .

I've been reading about players recently who are demanding certain wages from the loaning club which seems to be higher than their existing contract at their parent club.

Is it common that players ask for even more than their current contract to move elsewhere or do they usually accept to receive the same wages as they signed with their parent club?

Thanks in anticipation.

Brommers

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of players asking for higher wages from loaning clubs ever. The wages are paid on an agreement between the two clubs and that is it.}


 

 

 

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23 Jan 2019 12:07:21
It has probably come from his agent so that he has a stronger hand in negotiations.

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14 Jan 2019 10:45:54
I really don't think we should go for Laxalt.
To me he is an average winger who can play at LB/ LWB. He isn't great at either IMO.
I know he'd only be cover in both positions but I'd rather have a quality youngster than versatility.

Brommers

{Ed002's Note - He is not a winger - he is a left sided midfield player who can play elsewhere.}


 

 

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12 Jan 2019 00:08:41
I think the logic is to keep him for another year until the youth players are closer to the first team.

We don't want to sign another LB as presumably it'll be on at least a 2 year contract and block the route for the youngsters.

He is a liability but you can see some sense from the club's side in keeping him on the bench for 1 more year.

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03 Oct 2018 18:51:22
Thumbs up if you had to Google what comportement means.

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18 Jul 2018 22:00:03
Agreed anonymush.
He is underrated and rarely gives the ball away as well as being comfortable on the ball. Not spectacular but far from a bad player.
You need players like him on the field of play or ready to come off the bench.
I think he'll probably leave for 1st team football and good luck to him if he does.

Brommers

{Ed025's Note - giving the ball away is not the problem brommers, its him actually getting it and doing something with it!, he is the invisible man and a dead weight who will get none to very little fist team action...and rightly so..


 

 

 

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22 Mar 2020 10:04:04
Their website keeps having 'technical difficulties' if you try online. But if you call their automated line on 0800 151 2747 and say 'suspend sky sports' you can do it no troubles.
Hope you don't mind me putting a phone number on here Eds.

Brommers

{Ed002's Note - No it is fine, thanks.}


 

 

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08 Mar 2020 18:55:41
Epic, I know he hasn't had it easy but they should be ahead of Chelsea and Leicester for me. Especially with those players and the money spent.
I'd much rather they had OGS than Poch.

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08 Mar 2020 18:32:58
Great results today. City dropping more points, Everton getting stuffed, England top of the table in the 6 Nations and hopefully Utd duped in to keeping OGS for another year (wasting lots more cash) .

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20 Feb 2020 13:07:28
I understand the opinions but am similar to faithinworks. Who knows what level Gerrard will get to in a few years time. If he is the best man for the job in the owners eyes then I'd be happy to see him back.
Let's see how it pans out.

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20 Feb 2020 09:31:36
How come you don't want him as manager in the future JJ?
He is doing a good job at Rangers in my opinion (although he is still learning and has a way to go yet) and I'd love it if he completed the circle and won the league with us.

Brommers