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06 Jun 2017 11:34:48
What is going on with Soton reporting us? Anybody heard anything on the details? Are we in the wrong?

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{Ed025's Note - according to radio solent..


1.) 06 Jun 2017 12:45:50
Not to excuse Liverpool if they actually have gotten this wrong (and hopefully if they did it's a genuine mistake and resolvable rather than arrogance or outright incompetence) however I do think the whole system is flawed.

In what kind of world is speaking to a players agent not effectively speaking to the player themselves? It should be black and white IMO. without permission from the club there should be no communication with players or the players agent to discuss a possible transfer under any circumstances.


2.) 06 Jun 2017 13:01:08
Soton) probably favour a man city deal as it will offer more cash straight up. Our deal likely to feature more add ons and clauses. Let's hope the pony tailed warrior is set on liverpool. I think he is. That's why they're making a fuss though imo.


3.) 06 Jun 2017 15:04:22
Exactly, Jonny. Remember, his agent came to us. We did not go to him meaning, VVD has his mind set on playing for LFC. To me, this is a ploy to send VVD to City against his wish cos they obviously want the money.

They don't want to sell to us cos a) they don't like us and b) they want more money from City who like Chelsea, spoke to him as well via Pep and Conte but the Saints are clearly fine with that.

Now if we did anything wrong which I doubt then we need to take whatever punishment we get and assume that the VVD deal is dead. And if we didn't then Saints will be looking like desperate people who are just Salty cos VVD chose us which means less money for them.


4.) 06 Jun 2017 16:08:17
Can't work like that Zimbo. We'd have never bothered unless his agent sounded us out.
Also if we want say Moreno to go, we'd like his agent to see what's out there. Moreno isn't listed, not sure transfer list even exists anymore.

Also most clubs don't want to sell their players, not going to speak to anyone otherwise.


 

 

 

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10 Feb 2020 19:06:56
Hi Ed001,

Not sure if you saw Can's screamer for Dortmund over the weekend (its a beauty! ) .

What did you make of Can during his time as a Liverpool player? Do you think he could still be of use to us this season if he were still here?

Red Sandman.

Red Sandman

{Ed001's Note - he was ok, but he wasn't good enough to hold down a place when everyone was fit then and he is miles away from being good enough now we have moved on.}


1.) 11 Feb 2020 01:16:28
I honestly could never work out what Can’s skill set was while he was with us. No passing range, didn’t control the tempo particularly well, didn’t score many goals, wasn’t defensively switched on, wasn’t particularly skillful, never really knew how to utilise his size and strength well. He was average in all of these departments and would occasionally make a bursting run before running the ball into a blind alley. Was very slow and cumbersome as well. Not a terrible player by any means but when people used to hype up his performances i could never really understand what they were talking about.


2.) 11 Feb 2020 02:10:00
He was hard to figure out, at such a young age he looked like he had the perfect attributes to play his position, strong, aggressive, could stride with purpose and cover ground quickly and even though he looked a bit raw as you expect from a 20 year old his issue has been that he's never improved much on his technical ability and his reading of the game.

He had the perfect chance because the years he was with us were when we were crying out for a midfield destroyer as Henderson, Allen, Milner, Lucas, lallana, wijnaldum didn't seem right for that role in klopps early years. Being a young German too it seemed klopp couldn't have been a better manager for him to develop under but he never once seemed to sustain a decent period of time performing to high levels. I always liked him but as the time passed I was losing more and more belief in him and it got unclear exactly what type of midfield role he is strongest in. I was frustrated he left for free as I felt he could have earned 30-40mill for us if transferred but he's not one bit of a loss to our team now as he wouldn't be any more than 5th or 6th choice at the best in our midfield selection.


3.) 11 Feb 2020 07:31:49
Can had a good run in the team in the 16/ 17 season, after starting the season injured, which resulted in the team getting a CL spot at the end of the season. He scored 5 goals which I would guess is more than any other midfielder that season. Maybe he wouldn't have kicked on who knows, but Klopp and Liverpool wanted him to sign a new contract so I can only guess that Klopp was happy to work with him and see how he could progress.


4.) 11 Feb 2020 08:31:33
In a few games he dominated the midfield and at times could look like a 'Rolls-Royce' of a player, but far too inconsistent and no he wouldn't give us anything extra that we don't already have. I'd say he's on a par with Grujic, who is a few years younger and only really starting his career finally.


5.) 11 Feb 2020 16:40:13
I think he was incredibly skillful. He was seen as Gerrard replacement, so he was never going to reach those heights. Someone said he didn't score many goals. Well you should have a re think. He was always our highest scoring midfielder (maybe bar milly on penalties)

He was a box to box CM imo. But being very knowledge about tactics etc and being very skillful he was used in many positions because he could adapt. His overhead goal vs Watford was not only an amazing goal of the season, it got us into the champions league.

I liked him, big personality that I don't think has been able to flourish at juve, in Ronaldo kiera shadow. I liked his smug celebration too. Good looking geezer. I think he will be amazing for dortmund and I reckon he'll be good at the eurors.


6.) 11 Feb 2020 23:54:05
Can was one of my fav. LFC players during his time here. I thought he had the right skill set to make it as ac CM at LFC. He was also very brave and played thru injury for half the 16/ 17 season (calf injury) cos we lacked depth and Klopp had no choice but to play him. The City game (4-3) was where all his qualities of pace, power, physicality and skill came alive to me the most. He was a beast in midfield along with Ox and Gini and he played that game completely ill.

But for all that, I just felt that he was too slow and positionally unaware to play the DM role the way Fab and Hendo play it. And he lacked the quality to play the "8" the way Gini and Ox play it and with him demanding game time/ position guarantees before signing a new deal, Klopp was always going to let him go esp. since Klopp already had Fab in his sights. Love the guy but was never going to be good enough to flourish in this team the same way Gini, Ox, Hendo and Fab have.


 

 

18 Sep 2019 03:58:16
Morning ed001

Just finished your latest podcast with 666 (managed to get all the way through to the end! Quality as always. Please keep them coming) .

It's really disappointing to hear about FSG's attempts to trademark Liverpool. Is there any precedent in which other clubs have trademarked a clubs name, which is named after a city? It just seems so narrow sighted of them. Are there any online petitions or something we as fans could do to let the club know that this is in no way appropriate or supported by anyone?

Red Sandman.

Red Sandman

{Ed001's Note - Spirit of Shankly are organising protests etc. There was a petition on change.org but I can't access it so I don't know the wording and don't want to share a link to a site that blocks me from entry. Until I can check the link is safe (which all my browsers say it isn't!) I wouldn't share it with you guys.

As far as I am aware, this has never happened before. The whole idea is ludicrous and ill-conceived on the part of FSG.}


1.) 18 Sep 2019 10:44:35
Oh Ed001 - it gets worse mate. I have been reading up on the topic and apparently FSG are trying to trademark a bunch of our chants as well including "Allez Allez Allez"!

How can they be so idiotic to do such things!

Red Sandman.

{Ed001's Note - greed.}


2.) 18 Sep 2019 11:53:33
Even the "6 Times" as well. Might as well go for every single ABC alphabets so that every single possible words are theirs.


3.) 18 Sep 2019 12:11:56
Some eager, junior legal beagle in the legal department probably came up with the idea, and the seniors simply said "yeah and it doesn't cost too much, why not". But FSG have backed off in the past, in face of public outcry, so I expect the same to happen again.


4.) 18 Sep 2019 21:57:53
All the good things that they’ve done this past 3 or 4 years in particular and then they pull a stunt like this.
I thought that they’d gotten over all the 2 steps forward, 1 step back mistakes that characterised their early approach at Liverpool.


5.) 18 Sep 2019 23:18:08
According to the Beeb, both Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspurs among others have successfully trademarked their names.


 

 

11 Sep 2019 11:48:58
Hi Ed002,

Hope you are well. I have always appreciated your updates in respect of what a future European football landscape might look like. I understand there was a large meeting in Geneva yesterday and wanted to hear from you if there were any interesting take-aways (Liverpool related or otherwise) .

Keep up the excellent work on this site - I know I speak more many when I say how grateful I am for your continued contributions.

Red Sandman.

Red Sandman

{Ed002's Note - That was just the European Club Association meeting. It is unrelated to the "elite" sides that meet (they met in Monte Carlo a couple of weeks ago). The ECA has all and sundry there and it will have been the usual series of statements about too much money to the English sides, the larger sides in other countries, what is happening with UEFA and planned changes to competitions, potential rule changes etc..}


1.) 11 Sep 2019 13:01:08
Thanks, Ed002 - appreciate the response.

Was there anything of note to report from the Monte Carlo meeting? Or are those big plans still a few too many years away to be in a position to comment on how it will effect the European tax landscape? Are Liverpool still not allowed a seat at the big boy table at these meetings?

Red Sandman.

{Ed002's Note - It was a shorter affair than usual - there is a reception the previous evening but a number of folks were busy talking transfers with other clubs and the meeting was riushed in to an 0800-1200 window. The agenda was:

- Young Player Transfers - requested by a french side
- Revised Rules for Representatives and Licensing of Agents (The FA were told in January to take it to the European Club Association but have raised the issue again - but wer not represented)
- FIFA looking to "hurt" English sides (raised by The FA who were not there represented - nor were FIFA)
- Application for a new member to replace a member who has failed to attend for two years (five meetings)
Open Discussions (this is the Breakaway issue) added by UEFA who want - FIFA present but the clubs were not interested in either attending)

18 sides were represented.

- New entrant rejected - departing side representative wanted more time.
- Young Player Transfers - The French side want the rules amended to stop any transfer and to effectively block all approaches until players are 18. It was agreed by those present (except three sides) that discussions should be held at UEFA level as different FAs have different rules - so it goes in the minutes and they go (redacted) to UEFA.
- The FA's request the damage that FIFA are doing to "hurt English clubs" was discussed at some length including the Chelsea ban and potential cases on the same grounds against other English sides (this includes Liverpool because of two players). The rest of the discussion is not for tehse pages.
There was then a discussion about the breakaway, the 2024 lock down and whether any alternate proposals would be acceptable; no conclusion or agreement. However, there was a paper produced to say the the UEFA plans to expand the CL would be scrapped.
- Everything else was of no relevance here.

Tax is of no relevance.}


2.) 11 Sep 2019 14:18:23
Blimey Ed002 you certainly no your stuff mate. Very knowledgable and give a fair opinion all the time.


3.) 11 Sep 2019 15:15:15
Wow!

You Eds sure are so proud having a friend as knowledgeable as Ed02.

Thanks Ed02.


4.) 11 Sep 2019 16:18:06
Cheers for the reply Ed002! Sorry about the tax reference it was an auto correct!

Red Sandman.

{Ed002's Note - Hell of an autocorrect!!}


5.) 11 Sep 2019 18:41:22
Amazing answer. Can I ask who the 2 players relating to Liverpool are?

{Ed002's Note - Suso and a GK I don’t recall the name of - perhaps from Norway}


6.) 12 Sep 2019 07:17:49
Ed. 002

Are Liverpool still blacklisted from this group?

Who are the current clubs in this elite group?

Finally, who's the new club trying to join?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not part of the group. There is no point in listing the sides who are involved.}


 

 

31 Jul 2019 08:36:33
Hi Ed001,

Banter please! (as i think this is where people check the most)

I alluded to it yesterday - I think it would be great to do an "ask me anything" podcast. Hopefully its an easy one for you to smash out.

If people could comment below what questions they want Ed001 to cover in a podcast!

I'll go first - Which player that we have been linked with this summer do you think could have the biggest impact on our title challenge this year and why (doesn't have to be a realistic target)?

Also - bonus question from me: how many visits does liverpool-rumours. co. uk get every day?

Red Sandman.

Red Sandman

{Ed001's Note - I have asked on a couple of the other sites and they are also keen on it but I was thinking the questions need to be kept separate from the main site or they will get lost in banter. I am going to have a word with Ed033 to get him to set up a separate posting form for questions for me. I will make a note of these ones though.}


 

 

24 Jul 2019 16:22:44
Love the podcast Ed001. Really easy listen and for me made for a great commute home to just pop the headphones in and listen away!

Red Sandman.

Red Sandman

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate. I am going to try and do them all as pods as well.}


 

 

 

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11 Feb 2020 21:59:27
To be fair 0025 I only managed a list of less than 10 and it took me a good while to pull it together. You on the other hand could rattle off about 100 names of players who chased the money so I think your point very much stands true.

Do you think a salary cap is the way to go or are we now too far gone?

Red Sandman.

Red Sandman

{Ed025's Note - i think there is no turning back on this one sandman, agents have all the say now mate and im afraid we are stuck with it..


 

 

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11 Feb 2020 19:42:05
Ighalo? took a pay cut to join Man Utd last month?

What about all the Juve players that stayed when the club was relegated? They took a 25% pay cut i believe to stay with the club they loved?

Totti turning down Real Madrid to stay at Roma?

Lahm turning down Barc to stay at Bayern?

Hamsik turning down Juve to stay at Napoli?

What about Jamie Vardy? Turned down a pay rise at Arsenal to stay at Leicester?

I am sure there are plenty others! COme on people help us out here. All of those players could have earnt more if they moved!

Red Sandman.

Red Sandman

{Ed025's Note - ighalo made a mistake going to china and so im not counting him sandman, but there are a few good examples there mate...especially totti, but the lack of genuine candidates actually validates my original assumption i feel..


 

 

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06 Aug 2019 06:04:15
Thanks for sharing Kieran.

I personally want to keep Wilson. I think it is crunch time for him and his career and I do think that he has shown enough in pre season and for Derby last season that he can have an impact off the bench for us.

I am sure Kamano could be an excellent signing - or he could be a flop. my point is why don't we place our bets on young wilson instead?

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24 Jul 2019 06:46:31
In short, no

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17 Jul 2019 13:32:05
It wouldn't be for "very little money". It would be for £88 million which is a hell of a lot of money.

We have moved on. We have improved. He is not what we need and I genuinely don't think there is any interest from us what so ever.

If you read the transcript of what his agent said during his interview he said there is no interest.

Lets just forgot Pipco and move on.

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12 Feb 2020 16:12:01
Wirral Wonder - have a search for Ed002’s comments on Gini. Some clubs enquired after him and we were willing to sell if the price was right (£30m I believe)

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27 Jan 2020 16:10:27
On a personal note, Ed001 - is it not a bit disappointing that Klopp isn't taking the FA Cup more seriously? I completely understand that he has been instructed that he must respect the winter break, but common, you don't see the other Prem teams in a replay coming out and saying they will play the Kiddies.

I want us competing on every single front, for every single competition - isn't that what Liverpool are meant to do?

Red Sandman.

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{Ed001's Note - that's how I see it as well. I get he is annoyed that the FA says to respect the winter break and then schedules replays in that time but we should not have needed a replay. The fault is as much ours as theirs.}


 

 

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15 Jan 2020 16:45:53
Cheers for that Ed001.

Just out of curiosity - why are you not a fan of the Deloitte Money League? Do you think it makes the fans too obssessed with the money in the game?

Red Sandman.

Red Sandman

{Ed001's Note - it is just totally irrelevant. Fans haven't a clue what it means, because it means nothing. It is absolutely no value.}


 

 

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10 Dec 2019 16:00:57
Thanks for the reply Ed002.

I think Mr Mourinho will be a big success at Spurs. He is a fantastic manager and will bring them some much craved silverware.

In respect of Liverpool and their loan system - it does seem frustrating that it still seems a bit unorganised. Is this something that a Director of Football would usually be in charge of? Long term planning and overview of youngsters progression to first team etc? I remember a few years back FSG wanted to bring someone in, have these plans stopped?

thanks for the continued contribution to this site - heres to hoping santa clause brings you many a fancy bottles of gin to celebrate the festive period.

Red Sandman.

Red Sandman

{Ed002's Note - Yes, typically a DoF or equivalent is in charge of such a system. However, Chelsea's loan system runs well although at this time they do not have a DoF. The club has no plan to bring in a DoF at the moment (as far as I am aware). Enjoy your holiday season.}


 

 

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14 Nov 2019 14:44:22
What areas do you think the team need the most improvement in at the monent, Ed001?

Red Sandman.

Red Sandman

{Ed001's Note - goal scoring, they have not been scoring the goals they should have this season. It feels like someone is going to pay sooner or later.}