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25 Jun 2020 22:31:55
There will be an influx of posts but enjoy it lads and lasses this has been 30 years in the making. Times maybe slightly odd but enjoy it with those loved ones around you and hopefully we can enjoy it together in liverpool soon.
At times over my time supporting liverpool I thought I'd never witness this and there has been difficult moments but to all involved and especially Jurgen, Danke and prost to the champions of 19/ 20!
16 Aug 2019 11:31:31
Adrian a doubt for a Saturday, apparently a fan ran in to celebrate, slipped and took him out. A decision will be made tomorrow.
13 Aug 2019 10:38:51
Lovren not included in the squad for the super cup due to 'Illness', either it is a huge coincidence or the club are working on his departure.
Or maybe I should just put my tin foil hat away.
1.) 13 Aug 2019 11:06:48
Gomez and Matip are there as CB cover so I do not read too much into this but it is good to see the following young lads make it (Brewster, Hoever, Kelleher abd Elliott) - van der berg is not included so it must be a numbers thing so I only expect Lovren to leave if we get a decent sized bid, 15m as reported today is a very good price for the buyer.
2.) 13 Aug 2019 18:03:22
How is gomez CB cover? He’s first choice.
26 Mar 2019 11:09:11
I have to ask, ed002 any truth in the Moreno rumours to Barca. Good luck to him if it's true!
{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware, Barcelona are already discussing bringing in one first team starter at LB an one for the future at LB.}
1.) 26 Mar 2019 15:35:09
Looks like Lazio could be his next destination.
18 Jul 2018 19:35:08
Why are both the echo and Sky reporting this Alisson deal as breaking the record that city paid for ederson? It may be the premier league record but the actual record was Buffon back in 2001.
On the subject of Alisson not seen much of him but ed001 seems to rate him highly so thatll do for me.
Also gutted for the ox, the reaction on here shows how integral he became to the squad and hope his recovery goes well.
1.) 18 Jul 2018 19:59:52
Reporters only have a 5 second memory, they probably forgot all about Buffon being the worlds most expensive keeper until this deal is completed lol.
2.) 18 Jul 2018 20:04:30
It varies depending on which currency you use because of the fluctuation in exchange rate.
Buffon held the euro record. Ederson held the sterling record. Alisson breaks both records.
3.) 18 Jul 2018 20:39:02
It’s being reported as. PL record.
4.) 18 Jul 2018 21:40:36
Didn’t they pay 52 Euro’s but for Buffon and Lilian Thurman, so for 2 players.
5.) 18 Jul 2018 23:21:08
It’s as Adam said. Buffon, although more Euros, was sold at a time when the £ was much stronger against the €.
Hence Buffon in £ at the time (2001?) is less than Ederson in £ when he was bought last year.
Not much in it, mind.
And when you think about the inflation of transfer fees in the last 15-20 years, Buffons transfer fee was in the Coutinho - Neymar range in today’s market!
What’s most amazing is that, in light of everything, Juve STILL got a bargain!
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04 Aug 2020 20:08:04
If anyone hasn’t seen it there is a great documentary on C4 about Klopp. Gives a little insight into how the two paths came together and how You’ll never walk alone has littered his career. I had no idea Mainz also sang it!
1.) 05 Aug 2020 08:48:27
I knew that for years, OP. There are several Youtube documentaries about Klopp for years now and that is how I knew.
25 Jul 2020 11:12:57
There has been a bit of discussion regarding legends and how much the term is thrown around. Personally I think the club has a handful or legends and then a bunch of moments and players that are within the legend of the club and go down as part of the fabric/ folklore.
For instance origi isn’t a liverpool legend but some of his moments will forever be ingrained in our story his CL goal being the main one.
Lovren is another with his winner against Dortmund (part of our never say die attitude) and Lallana with the way he put everything into Klopps first game and led from the front.
In regards to who could be included from the current crop I’d say Klopp is well on his way, he’s built us back up from being a Europa league team to champions and Henderson is the other. For the way he carries himself and the standard he has set. Obviously both probably need a few more trophies to cement their places but for me they are well on their way.
1.) 25 Jul 2020 11:24:55
Agreed and very well said. I think if we're having this discussion in 5 years from now we'd be adding Trent to that list as well as robbo. Fingers crossed anyway, a lot can happen in football but if they carry on the way they're playing then we have a couple of future legends right there.
2.) 25 Jul 2020 11:28:19
Forgot to add Trent to my list of possible future leg ends.
3.) 25 Jul 2020 12:16:47
Origi may not be a legend (then as you say OP, it is subjective) however his moments alongside those of Lovren and Lallana, will be engraved in LFC folklore due to how impactful they were towards our rise to greatness and the occasions during which they happened which are unforgettable, IMO.
As for Klopp IMO, he is already a living legend at the club right now as we speak. The question now is how big of a Liverpool legend will he be. Will it be likened to the modern day Shankly or Paisley or the next version of the King himself? Only time will tell.
4.) 25 Jul 2020 12:40:14
Klopp is a legend, the squad collectively is a legend for winning the league for the first time in 30 years, and Hendo, Trent and Big Virg will be club legends.
{Ed025's Note - the hunchback of notre dam was a legend as well as dracula and frankenstein..
5.) 25 Jul 2020 12:45:02
I can tell you now Klopp is a legend. If he left today he’d be remembered as the man who did the impossible. It hasn’t sank in yet, but what he’s done is massive. Up there now with the legendary joe fagan imo.
6.) 25 Jul 2020 12:56:03
A legend is very subjective. For me a lot of players from the 70s and 80s can be regarded as legends and rightly so because of the success we had.
Then there is the likes of Gerrard who might not have won as many trophies as he would have liked but the amount of times he pulled it out of the bag for the team and important goals he scored, for me he is rightly in the "legend" category.
Now we get to the modern day team and off course they clearly haven't won anywhere close to the teams of the 70s and 80s but they are the team that got the monkey of the clubs back and got it over the line where other teams have failed. Let's be honest also, no team is going to do what Liverpool and then United did for decades and dominate, so it's a bit unfair to compare. So for me there are a few legends in this team when they retire or move on but only when they do so. For now I hope they continue to write a few more chapters in the clubs glorious history.
{Ed025's Note - i think your spot on IR..
7.) 25 Jul 2020 13:50:33
With you on that, Irish Rover. The report card will come out only after graduation (when they leave us or retire) . But I think it's harsh to not consider Mane, Firmino and Salah as legends with the above names if they do stay for at least 5 years. Carragher too, despite his post career blemishes, should/ could be considered as a legend because he helped hold the house upright with Gerrard for years and years.
8.) 25 Jul 2020 13:55:43
You don't need to be a Legend to perform legendary acts. Origi, Smicer, Collymore have all scored legendary goals yet wouldn't be classed as true club legends.
Im surprised there's a shadow of doubt when referring to Jurgen Klopp though. In the past couple of years he's transformed the team and had us playing some of the best football out there. he's taken us to finals ever year and won us the biggest prizes in the sport, including the holy grail.
Absolute bona fide club legend in my book.
9.) 25 Jul 2020 15:56:10
Personally I think you can only become a legend after you leave the club but call me old fashioned 😂.
I have the same opinion when they dish out knighthood but that's a whole other discussion!
10.) 25 Jul 2020 15:59:16
100%! Klopp again did what many managers couldn't achieve. Serial losers into winners, but he has more to do. I'm hoping he's a legend with 2 maybe 3 PL trophies, not just 1.
11.) 25 Jul 2020 16:03:54
Spot on, IR.
12.) 25 Jul 2020 16:53:42
Legend is used too much these days. What does it even mean? But with the current definition I'd say origi is a club legend. In 20 years he will pull the shirt on for legend games. Gini is a legend for the exact same reason.
13.) 26 Jul 2020 11:54:45
When we look back in 30 years time, hard to believe but some of our players won't come instantly to mind. Seems hard to believe right now but it's true. Gini and origi won't be forgotten. Because they scored huge huge goals for us. The youngsters in 30 years time will still talk about gini and origi against barca. They are legends (or will be. You can't be a legend until you've hung the boots up, I agree)
21 Jul 2020 22:44:07
Ed001, not saying we have interest but what's your thoughts on foster, would he make a good back up keeper if Adrian were to leave?
{Ed001's Note - no, he is not that good, makes far too many poor errors. He is also not good enough on the ball.}
1.) 22 Jul 2020 09:17:44
Cheers ed001, I'll be honest other then highlights i see very little of him, so appreciate the insight.
{Ed001's Note - he can be decent but so many silly mistakes.}
21 Jul 2020 12:29:33
If you haven't read it yet I suggest you read Jordan Henderson's words on the Liverpool website.
The guy is a proper leader in my eyes and the way he speaks about everyone is brilliant.
I can't wait to see them lift that trophy tomorrow and for Henderson to put himself firmly in Liverpool folklore, the man truly deserves it.
1.) 21 Jul 2020 19:40:38
I recon someone inside the club wrote it and put his name on it. 😂😂.
2.) 21 Jul 2020 21:27:30
Oi negative, that's not very positive is it 😂.
17 Jul 2020 19:44:55
Bielsa in the premier league. Living in leeds I'm chuffed for them but if our game at Elland road is with fans I would love to get my hands on an away ticket. But away tickets are like gold dust! An away day is one I'll struggle to tick off the bucket list I think.
1.) 17 Jul 2020 20:23:32
WYred.
You totally echoed my thoughts re Leeds away! Elland Road can get very, shall we, say tasty, it’s a great away game. Getting a ticket for an away game with us is near on impossible these days mate.
2.) 17 Jul 2020 20:48:27
It’s a shame, but then I see a bunch of kids in the away end and I do wonder how they got hold of them. But I guess it’s who you know not what you know. I’ll just have to get myself into headingley for the game providing C.V. is off the radar.
06 Aug 2020 10:15:29
barry i don't have twitter either i usually just type his name into google to get his account but his tweets were,
In response to questions regarding the Fat Kid From Bolton confirming today that Norwich have accepted a £10M bid from Liverpool and granted permission for the club to talk with him, that is in fact two lies.
&
Sparky can only assume that all of the lies from the Fat Kid From Bolton somehow serve to earn him money from betting. How many Liverpool supporters placed a wager on Sancho joining next summer after the FKFB told them a pre-contract agreement was in place?
06 Aug 2020 07:36:42
Davey the lad just reposts what he reads as his own, then if it happens he can claim he was right.
I have no idea how or why so many follow him as his success rate must be about 5%.
05 Aug 2020 23:06:32
Check out his latest tweets mate they couldn't be clearer, basically that fat kid from bolton has been lying again.
05 Aug 2020 21:18:13
I love how much that dog hates the fat kid 😂 and throwing out a few non cryptic tweets saves time not having to solve them! Cheers sparkys owner.
05 Aug 2020 13:54:30
If you have the attitude where you are happy to be back up we should look elsewhere.
We want players that are there to take a place in the first team through graft and their determination.
Competition breeds success in my opinion otherwise complacency creeps in.
09 Aug 2020 18:41:51
I couldn't disagree more kman, I think the league has been very competitive but we have been a completely different level to the rest. The likes of Wolves and Leicester (before implosion) where much better then years gone by. And the same could be said for the likes of Southampton too making points much harder to come by.
Yes, the likes of United weren't close to us but that is because of how good we were rather than vice versa. It is exactly why they are spending to try and catch up. because if they don't they won't be able to compete.
As regards our financial situation, the situation hasn't helped but I would much rather the club be frugal then just spend like there is no tomorrow. It hasn't exactly done us, remember we were on the brink of administration prior to FSG, or the likes of Leeds any good. You can also include clubs further down the pyramid like Portsmouth and Bolton too.
We have a fantastic 11 plus players who can challenge the starters. Then we have a few youngsters who are highly regarded so rather than clamouring for the biggest transfer or spending for spending sake, let's look to what we have and build. For instance if we spent £60m on a Bentdner it doesn't automatically improve the team.
The mentality of the team alone is enough to win us certain games, just watch back some of our games and you will see how poorly we played in some but still got the win. let's trust the likes of Klopp and Edwards to keep us moving forward.
06 Aug 2020 09:20:48
That's based on the assumption all of Mane, Salah Sarr (if we even sign him) are still Liverpool players in 2022.
I wouldn't worry about something that far off, just look what happened with the C.V., that alone shows you can't look too far ahead.
05 Aug 2020 11:22:43
DTD, personally no. Jones takes AL’s spot to see if he can step up. Milly can be used as cover and doesn’t play week in week out. If wiji goes he will need to be replaced and that’s where Thiago comes in imo.
Money is tight so can’t see us spending in midfield if no one leaves, a player for CB/ lb is more important.
03 Aug 2020 21:26:25
Haven’t they just agreed terms with the player?
Now they need to negotiate with Dortmund so plenty to go in this one yet.
03 Aug 2020 18:47:55
KT that’s the only way we buy him imo, if wiji signs I can’t see us adding Thiago.