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16 Aug 2019 11:31:31
Adrian a doubt for a Saturday, apparently a fan ran in to celebrate, slipped and took him out. A decision will be made tomorrow.
13 Aug 2019 10:38:51
Lovren not included in the squad for the super cup due to 'Illness', either it is a huge coincidence or the club are working on his departure.
Or maybe I should just put my tin foil hat away.
1.) 13 Aug 2019 11:06:48
Gomez and Matip are there as CB cover so I do not read too much into this but it is good to see the following young lads make it (Brewster, Hoever, Kelleher abd Elliott) - van der berg is not included so it must be a numbers thing so I only expect Lovren to leave if we get a decent sized bid, 15m as reported today is a very good price for the buyer.
2.) 13 Aug 2019 18:03:22
How is gomez CB cover? He’s first choice.
26 Mar 2019 11:09:11
I have to ask, ed002 any truth in the Moreno rumours to Barca. Good luck to him if it's true!
{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware, Barcelona are already discussing bringing in one first team starter at LB an one for the future at LB.}
1.) 26 Mar 2019 15:35:09
Looks like Lazio could be his next destination.
18 Jul 2018 19:35:08
Why are both the echo and Sky reporting this Alisson deal as breaking the record that city paid for ederson? It may be the premier league record but the actual record was Buffon back in 2001.
On the subject of Alisson not seen much of him but ed001 seems to rate him highly so thatll do for me.
Also gutted for the ox, the reaction on here shows how integral he became to the squad and hope his recovery goes well.
1.) 18 Jul 2018 19:59:52
Reporters only have a 5 second memory, they probably forgot all about Buffon being the worlds most expensive keeper until this deal is completed lol.
2.) 18 Jul 2018 20:04:30
It varies depending on which currency you use because of the fluctuation in exchange rate.
Buffon held the euro record. Ederson held the sterling record. Alisson breaks both records.
3.) 18 Jul 2018 20:39:02
It’s being reported as. PL record.
4.) 18 Jul 2018 21:40:36
Didn’t they pay 52 Euro’s but for Buffon and Lilian Thurman, so for 2 players.
5.) 18 Jul 2018 23:21:08
It’s as Adam said. Buffon, although more Euros, was sold at a time when the £ was much stronger against the €.
Hence Buffon in £ at the time (2001?) is less than Ederson in £ when he was bought last year.
Not much in it, mind.
And when you think about the inflation of transfer fees in the last 15-20 years, Buffons transfer fee was in the Coutinho - Neymar range in today’s market!
What’s most amazing is that, in light of everything, Juve STILL got a bargain!
04 Feb 2018 13:12:51
In regards to the champions league it is a competition we all love but I feel it has also given a way out for many teams including us, to say, we finished top four it’s a good season.
Take champions league out of it and the only thing that should matter is winning the league (which only one team can do a year but you should be damn close in doing so) and winning a trophy.
Why has the champions league become bigger than the domestic league? don't get me wrong 2005 will live long in the memory but as an English club domestic success should be the be all and end all. For instance I’ll remember 08/09 as we came so close and even closer in 13/14 but I don’t remember the other seasons where we scrape 4th. Finishing top should be and always should be the aim with an FA Cup or League Cup (none of this carabao nonsense) .
1.) 04 Feb 2018 13:31:13
I don't think qualifying for the champions league has taken precedent over winning the title, it's just the minimum requirement from top 6 teams currently. I think if you asked most Liverpool fans they would prefer the domestic title and I think if you asked our owners they would prefer to be the owners that helped give LFC that. Where have you drawn this conclusion that the champions league is more important? It's more important for citeh currently because they haven't won it yet, and you can bet your bottom dollar that every manager within the top 6 absolutely strives to be crowned champions of the premier league, its not like citeh was the only team set out to try for the title this year and the other 5 just wanted top 4. it's just how the season has panned out with citeh being so consistent in results.
2.) 04 Feb 2018 14:04:03
Sorry WYred but surely you understand the financial rewards for UCL qualification and progression due to tv rights sponsorship etc etc. All fans want the big name players at their clubs, those players in turn want paying big money and want to be playing in the most competitive competition there is in club football the UCL. Its sad really that most clubs view the English domestic competitions as a hindrance nowadays due money pure and simple.
3.) 04 Feb 2018 14:44:06
Why not go for both? 🤔.
4.) 04 Feb 2018 16:25:09
I don’t think CL or top 4 has taken precedence over the league at all, but it’s about being able to realistically build a team that can compete. I would take the title over the CL and I would take a title over a top 4 space the following/ previous season. Money isn’t really an issue any more but top players want to play in the CL, end of story, without CL our best players, who we will have usually been forced to nurture ourselves from young talents because of not being able to attract top players, will want to leave for a better chance of winning trophies/ playing CL and so the cycle continues. There are extraordinary events of course, I. e. Leicester but this was an exception, not the rule, and i’ll be amazed if I see similar again in my lifetime. Top 4 and CL is not the be all and end all, but it is necessary to become and stay as a top team. I said at the start of the year Top four for us would be a successful season and I stand by that.
5.) 04 Feb 2018 18:50:44
Because it helps to attract the best new players.
6.) 04 Feb 2018 20:21:32
Correct stoneage 🤝.
7.) 04 Feb 2018 21:43:49
It's not always the case arsenal jus bought abumayang they ain't in champs league an also in 6th, also if u have a manager a player wants too play under that helps as abumayang has said he wanted too play under Wenger an he now playing for arsenal, as vvd wanted too play for Liverpool also.
8.) 04 Feb 2018 23:34:30
Apologies don't think i worded my point correctly. My point was that qualifying for the champions league was considered a success. I. e. we finished top four so we had a good season.
The only measurement for a good season should be winning a trophy. You could argue a title challenge is successful but only if you just miss out. But finishing fourth should not be considered an achievement it is a mere bonus that you have qualified for the champions league.
Obviously champs league has the money and attracts players, and in my original post that question was rhetroical as its money the makes the game go round which is an unfortunate outcome of the game becoming so successful.
9.) 05 Feb 2018 09:59:17
WYred, there's a difference between winning trophies and achieving targets. Both Wigan and Swansea have won major trophies since our last one but clearly they're not better teams than us. So we need a better way of measuring how well we're currently doing and that's the league.
Goals scored is a great measure of our attack, goals conceded of our defence and points of our general standing. If these records are going up or down season by season then that's measure of our progress.
Being in the top four isn't success in itself but it's a target that's shows we're improving. From 2010-16 we made the top four once, hopefully we going to do it for the second time in a row this season, that's progress.
If we start to come top four regularly then we can increase our targets to 'challenge for the title' and if we challenge for the title regularly we can increase our target to 'win the league'. That's the aim but it's a journey.
Saying we're unsuccessful because we didn't win the league is unhelpful as it wasn't a realistic target for us this season. Having a target of 'top four' and achieving that target shows we're on the right track.
10.) 05 Feb 2018 10:59:00
I think for this season if we qualified for champs league 2 seasons in a row that's progression too were we have come from, it shows a level of consistency in the league but obviously we have too take it too the next level in terms of winning leagues an cups, from the top too the bottom of the club as a whole we always should b thinking through the ceiling but these days money is king an we lag behind in that department as there are 5 or six teams as just as wealthy an 3 of them have juggernaut money.
11.) 05 Feb 2018 11:07:41
So the measurement for success is winning a trophy but you’d rather not be in a competition with a trophy up for grabs so you can focus on 3 other comps, at least 2 of which are less prestigious?
12.) 05 Feb 2018 11:35:43
I still don't think you're correct WYred - most people laugh at the few who considers it a success on it's own merit.
However, most things in life happen in steps. We've spent almost a decade out of the Champions League for the most part, so the first step is getting back into it and solidifying our position as regulars. It's a good indication of the path to success - no one really believes its the end goal of it.
13.) 05 Feb 2018 12:09:27
i think top 2 should should qualify automatic for CL and the winner of both cups get the remaining two place.
14.) 05 Feb 2018 12:33:32
Hailstones. aubumayang went to Arsenal because no other big club would buy him and he wanted to move! Also his current club are out the champions league so it made no difference to his current season.
15.) 05 Feb 2018 15:00:27
Tia, mate abumayang is quality he will bag arsenal a lot of goals bet u he has a field day in the premiership, no one wanted Suarez but we did, no one wanted coutihno we did, no one wanted Salah we did, doesn't mean anything they have a world class striker.
16.) 05 Feb 2018 16:11:36
Swish, I never said I don't want to be in the champions league, my point is that you shouldn't meerly aim for top four (you may during the season have to adapt your targets depending on results) but before a ball is kicked the title should be the aim plus any trophy your competing in.
ending a season with just a top four finish can be seen as progress from where we have been but should still be considered an average season at best.
This site is about opinions which over certain things will differ but it is what makes this site so addictive.
17.) 05 Feb 2018 18:36:26
how many clubs, Liverpool included, wish for top four, it brings so many pluses, meaning you have performed well in the bread and butter of the premiership, then to have a good run, in all the cups, hoping to win one of course, really being in the Champions League does attract the better players, and money,
this then means you can then strenghten your team, giving you a better chance to win games,
so the best teams, then have a much better chance of staying up there with the best,
we have just added VVD and Mo Salah, our full back situation looks so much better now, even Karius is improving, we have Kieta coming here in 4 months, Lovren looks good with VVD,
there to me I can see a big improvement,
if we can add a class midfielder, we can def set our sights even higher next season .
18.) 06 Feb 2018 02:24:55
WY, the aim is to win everything we enter, the top 4 is the minimum level we want to be achieving, not maximum. just cos that's what we reference as a milestone doesn't mean that we're only happy competing at that level.
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18 Aug 2019 08:51:41
I didn’t get to see the game yesterday but by all accounts it seemed another average performance.
Whilst I’d admit we haven’t clicked yet this season you have to admire the ability to grind results. Although yesterday was a lot more tense after Adrians gift.
We have had four games in the opening two weeks and come out with positive in three of them, and lost on the lottery of pens in the other without clicking, I think that’s a very good return.
But next week is going to be the acid test, our first game of the season with a weeks preparation against a team with top four aspirations should give us a better indication of what to expect in the coming months. Also with a week to prepare I think it’ll be the first game with Klopps first choice 11 barring the keeper.
1.) 18 Aug 2019 09:55:07
I think with all things considered it actually was a decent performance overall. Southampton away isn’t a guaranteed 3 points for anyone, and if you take away the error it wasn’t actually an uncomfortable win at all.
I think the chances being worked up by the front 3 is very promising - with slightly better finishing Liverpool get 5 in that game and no one mentions the performance at all.
I think the team are actually looking better 2 games (or 4 I guess?! ) in this season than that many last time around (I recall everyone being concerned about Mo and the front 3 not creating chances) .
Next weekend should be a great game for the neutrals if nothing else!
2.) 18 Aug 2019 10:12:43
The first half yesterday was a battle. Southampton packed their midfield and played a back three at times, denied our forwards barely any chances.
But Liverpool get stronger the longer games go on now. I’ve noticed a lot of use of in-game nutrition, energy gels, Bobby was gesticulating for a tablet of some kind lol, what was that, salt?
3.) 18 Aug 2019 11:12:31
Yeah Juicer. I was wondering the same thing. It looked like a mentos to me. He threw the first one the staff passed to him. Maybe it wasn't the flavour that he was asking.
4.) 18 Aug 2019 12:00:21
You also have to remember that Southampton's keep played a blinder. He made some absolutely cracking saves.
5.) 18 Aug 2019 12:13:03
We only got stronger to the 80th minute, we could have very easily considered, ings had two clear opportunities, one of which was an open goal.
6.) 18 Aug 2019 12:45:45
People were waiting for us to click all the way to madrid last season. We changed our gung ho approach to a more measured style. We are unbeaten, top of the league. Last season we ground out a hell of a lot of wins.
I think mane is a brilliant player, he's world class but i think a super confident mane is balon dor level. Maybe next year.
7.) 18 Aug 2019 12:51:50
More importantly it was the 3rd game in a week we played (one going to 120 mins) whilst we’re still building up match sharpness.
Any win is a fantastic result.
8.) 18 Aug 2019 13:17:01
I thought we were leggy early on but after Mane scored we opened them up twice comfortably with Mo and Bobby missing chances they really should be taking.
9.) 18 Aug 2019 13:17:04
Overall i thought was a decent performance and a great result at a tough place to get a result. We didn't get much preparation time in for this game with Chelsea in the super cup midweek. For instance the game finished on Wednesday at 1am local time in intense heat, then to come back Thursday and try rest and also prepare for Southampton. We always seem to start the season slow and gain momentum, so im not too worried. Its good that Adrian made his mistake and we still came away with 3 points also. Was a nervy finish but delighted we won. Onto Arsenal next Saturday. YNWA.
10.) 19 Aug 2019 10:44:34
I respectfully disagree, MrSox87. That first half was quite dreadful, IMO. The reason is not just down to the way the Saints set up to block the passing lanes and make play balls of the the top of the defence to beat the press and get in behind the high defensive line. It was mainly down to our defenders constantly passing the ball sideways to themselves and stupidly, passing the ball to Adrian at almost every turn.
That to me, is where the issue was. This allowed the Saints to pressure us in the box and force mistakes and as soon as Adrian made his first mistake, the unease spread right thru the team and then all panic broke lose. Saints should have scored 2 goals last night (a part from the Adrian error leading to their goal) . We were sloppy and indecisive for half the game BUT I will say, we improved a lot in the second half and could have scored 3 goals so not going to slate the boys too much.
11.) 19 Aug 2019 10:50:42
I think Klopp has got them taking it easy in the first half of games as the fitness isn’t there yet. We seem to play within ourselves then pick it up in the second half.
It worked a treat on Saturday as Southampton ran themselves into the ground in the first half then we completely controlled it up until Adrian’s error. They were a beaten team up to that point but that gave them a boost for 5 minutes and Ings missed a golden chance but after that we saw it out comfortably.
People will talk about how many shots we gave up but how many of those shots were actual chances? Not many.
14 Aug 2019 23:20:44
Just a small point, the 2020 champs league final is in Istanbul, we couldn’t, could we? We will need to start calling Istanbul turkeys anfield!
{Ed025's Note - its certainly better than the turkeys that tuned up to the CL final Wyred..
1.) 15 Aug 2019 00:58:39
That's a tad unfair on Spurs Ed😁.
{Ed025's Note - hardly barry, they were just as complicit as the reds mate, last night was how a showcase final should be played, it was great entertainment....mainly by chelsea i have to say.. :)
2.) 15 Aug 2019 08:16:34
Oh what a chicken would give to to a turkey edd25 lol.
3.) 15 Aug 2019 09:04:01
Have to agree with Ed025, if Spurs hadnt have defended and hogged the ball so much the European final could have been a 10-0 goalfest and hugely entertaining.
09 Aug 2019 11:49:29
there is an article on the BBC about breaking our curse of finishing second then having a shocker the season after.
The main thing I took from it is that on those previous occasions we have always lost a key player to our challenge Suarez and Xabi being the main two. So whilst it may be disappointing for some that we haven't added, maybe it will prove to be just as crucial that none of our key players left.
1.) 09 Aug 2019 12:15:03
That’s just what Klopp . and ed001 have been saying.
2.) 09 Aug 2019 12:38:48
Perfectly put.
08 Aug 2019 19:17:42
So ed001, the transfer window has been shut just over two hours, any updates on January targets? Maybe a cheeky bid for Fernandes? 😂😂
In all seriousness thanks for all your efforts through the transfer window, Ed002 for his encyclopaedia knowledge and ed025 for being the token blue nose and terrible banter. Now we get on to the serious stuff, roll on tomorrow night!
{Ed001's Note - you are very welcome mate. Roll on tomorrow alright.}
1.) 08 Aug 2019 19:43:53
Finally back to normal, I can't wait until tomorrow mate.
{Ed001's Note - I have to admit I no longer enjoy transfer windows. They have become tedious and full of stupid clickbait stories.}
2.) 08 Aug 2019 20:07:47
I had sky on at work and they were dying for something to happen, think the window should be scrapped as it might help fees. Will also help youngsters.
If they did scrap it, the first year would be manic with all the transfer stories but think it’d eventually die down as people lose interest.
3.) 08 Aug 2019 20:23:46
Ed, I must admit mate, usually I look forward to them but this transfer window didn't interest me at all. I'm glad it's over because I was fed up of hearing about the bloody thing to be honest. It's just an event for gobsh*tes these days especially now twatter and what not has made it big.
Still though, no matter how crap it is, you and the other Eds have carried on throughout no matter how annoying it must be, so a big thank you to yourself and the rest. Very much appreciated mate.
{Ed001's Note - I just distract myself with articles and podcasts and figuring out how to do videos, which is the next plan for the sites.}
4.) 08 Aug 2019 21:36:34
Ed, Im a motion graphics designer/ video creator, so let me know if you need any help or advice with videos.
With the success Firmino achieved at Copa, the dazzling moments at Wembley, this upcoming season feels like it's going to be a special one for him.
The positional diversity some of our players have, and the togetherness and desire of the team, makes total sense for a quiet transfer window.
The team knows what they need to do!
After the Champions League journey we went through 2 years, I never felt we would get that same incredible and emotional rollercoaster again, but last season they upped it with victory, and almost the Premier League as well.
The Anfield roar when Brighton scored vs Man City will continue into the new season. God damn this year is going to be awesome!
{Ed001's Note - I need lots of help mate! Literally just about to dip my toes in the water with OBS Studio.}
5.) 08 Aug 2019 22:26:49
Yikes! Free, open source software can be a pain to learn. There's some simplified options out there, but they come at a cost. What types of content are you looking to record/ stream, is it going to be live or pre-recorded/ embedded onto the site?
{Ed001's Note - I was thinking about doing a bit of both long term, but to start with pre-recorded seems easier.}
6.) 08 Aug 2019 23:53:22
hey 4degrees, if you don't mind, could you share some of those free video editing softwares? im looking for one, but only really need the basics of editing (cutting, combining multiple clips etc. ), so a simple and easy to use software would suffice for now.
if this thing works out for me i may venture into paid softwares eventually, but would like to try out the free softwares first.
7.) 09 Aug 2019 10:24:36
Davinci Resolve 16 (non studio version)
Very good option for video editing, and it’s free!
Avoid buying into software such as Adobe - unless your in a professional environment working for companies who already use it in their workflow.
Not much knowledge with streaming, I just know it can get expensive.
Video hosting wise-
YouTube is free and has its limitations, but its a decent option and you can embed onto sites etc etc.
Vimeo is the next step up- more professional and sleek. The Free ‘Basic’ package gives you embed options, but tight limitations on how many videos/ bandwidth your allowed.
Using Webcams, cameras, phones - as long as you have decent lighting setup, your shots will look good! A microphone hooked up to your recording device will enhance the video even further, so worth looking into.
{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, I will have a look into that.}
06 Aug 2019 20:19:39
Ed001, so Wilson goes on loan for the season and I know you weren’t a huge admirer but do you not agree that it leaves a little light in the front three? According to the website we have 5 forwards, 1 of which is Brewster. Obviously that bodes well for his game time and I also appreciate Ox/ Lallana can play there but I just feel one or two injuries and we are up s### creek. Hopefully the club has an ace up their sleeve or we end up being lucky with injuries!
{Ed001's Note - 5 forwards is plenty.}
1.) 06 Aug 2019 20:44:16
Mane want in the squad Sunday, neither was Brewster. Sturridge has left and still Wilson couldn't get a look in. Good move for the kid.
2.) 06 Aug 2019 20:50:37
I’m with you WYred. An injury and we are well short. This TF window has just petered out mate unfortunately but we have I believe in the squad we’ve got and pray for no injuries.
3.) 06 Aug 2019 21:01:52
City with an injury to Ageuro or Sterling. Same difference Virgil.
4.) 06 Aug 2019 21:17:13
Origi is decent cover for Firmino through the centre but he struggles out wide with our link up play. If city lost Aguero or Sterling they have Sane, Mahrez, Silva, Jesus in reserve. We have An untested kid in Brewster.
{Ed001's Note - Sane and Jesus were untested kids when they arrived at City.}
5.) 06 Aug 2019 21:36:19
Only difference is Max City would have Mahrez, Jesus, etc to come in. Anyhow I’m not taking this thread any further. It is what it is and we have a squad of players to go with. Let’s see where it takes us.
6.) 06 Aug 2019 21:31:53
Ed001 that is very true. However this season they are seasoned settled first teamers. Don’t get me wrong I really want Brewster to do well but he’s more through the middle type of player also.
{Ed001's Note - then we can change formation if we need to.}
7.) 06 Aug 2019 21:43:54
Spot on, Ed. Comparing us to City is the dumbest argument to make and has always been a false comparison. When Sterling and Sane were signed 4 and 3 seasons ago respectively (both as teenagers), they were coming in to replace players who were over the hill. They were not there for cover or depth cos they started right away. Gab Jesus was brought in at age 20 to take Aguero's place cos he fit the way Pep wants to play. It is he who is yet to take Aguero's place cos he is simply not as good a goalscorer as he is. He was not signed for depth either.
Also, Bernardo Silva (according to Ed01) was signed to take Sterling's place over time as Pep was not happy with him. Sterling upped his game and since Silva is that good, Pep has managed to play both of them from the start. This is the mistake that many on here make when they compare us to City. The dynamics with them are diff. from ours when it comes to things like this BUT feel free to make the same false arguments just make it sound like we should be doing what City have been doing WAY before even Klopp got here.
8.) 06 Aug 2019 21:46:11
I know what you mean with Sane and Jesus but both were full internationals when City signed them Ed1. Much further along in their development than Brewster,
I’m all for giving Brewster, Larouci, Lewis, Hoever, Elliot game time. They’ve got a much better chance of success than coming into a team losing. Why spend millions on foreign backups when we have juniors coming through?
9.) 06 Aug 2019 22:05:17
Comparing us to City is a dumb argument and then you go on to make a long post about City yourself. Makes sense that 👍.
10.) 07 Aug 2019 09:24:30
Mane, firmino, Salah, ox, shaw, origi, Brewster is a lot of players for 3 positions.
11.) 07 Aug 2019 19:36:09
JK23, clearly you understood nothing in my post. That is a personal problem for you to look into. Here's an idea. How about you read it again or a couple of times, get back to me and then we can discuss when you fully understand the nuance and context in my comments.
16 Aug 2019 20:02:50
Seano, with the game being in Turkey there is the potential that it isn’t a regular visitor to Anfield.
Problem is there are plenty of idiots that want a minute of fame. loOk at the lass in the final, no intention to go to another game and got publicity by being all over the news. Tv cameras are starting to get the right idea and as soon as someone is seen pan to someone else.
If they stop being seen, it’ll be eradicated as it negates the point in doing it.
16 Aug 2019 13:36:12
Kloppo said he needs to be assessed in the morning, it was swollen yesterday and has improved. But it won't be definite till tomorrow.
23 Jul 2019 12:51:10
I am pretty sure that Ed002 has said all window he expects us to go for a AM who can also provide cover for the front three. Until something changes don't expect daily updates.
TBH we should be praising the club as it clearly is very difficult to get information regarding transfers. so instead journos throw out drivel or vague guesses in the hope of being right or people to click on their stories.
15 Jul 2019 19:00:07
If Klopp and his team want cornet I back him. I like both Kent and Wilson, but think they will fall short of the standard required.
06 Jul 2019 20:47:54
I'm not saying it will happen but would anyone take a loan to buy? Season to bed in to klopps tactics and then when Salah leaves next summer (probable but not definite) we can conclude the dembele deal (if klopp thinks he's good enough/ has the right attitude.
Again, I know unlikely, but am interested to see peoples views.
{Ed002's Note - It is not an option at all. Dembele is not in Liverpool.}
22 Aug 2019 22:02:03
007, think you may have slightly exaggerated it there, OX will be valuable providing he stays fit but so will Hendo. He is still underestimated in this squad and plays a vital role For the team,
Hendo will be Liverpool captain until he leaves, there is no reason to take it off him and Klopp has built a team that has several captains.
21 Aug 2019 16:42:17
Cracking read that thanks ed001, shows how far the club has had to come to catch up. Also, shows he really was the reason for our struggles. Luckily, his chapter is closed off.
Also is it fair to say that we owe a fair bit of gratitude to rafa for the youth set up? Or has there been another substantial shake up since then that has seen our academy improve? It's just it seems to tie up with what you have said previously that it takes a fair few years to notice improvements in the academy.
{Ed001's Note - a massive debt of thanks to Rafa. Parry had completely destroyed it and Rafa had to literally start all over again. It has since been worked on, but it is just tinkering ever since.}
21 Aug 2019 14:13:41
It's an absolute travesty what is going on with Bury, I know previously ed002 has said more clubs will struggle as the league structure is unsustainable for so many professional clubs.
But it's a club who have been around for 130 odd years and will bookmark endless family stories. And an owner is probably going to see them go out of business is just a shameful ending.
I can imagine there are rules stopping PL clubs getting involved but the disparity in figures, between what Bury owe, and what PL clubs spend on players is astonishing.
I really hope it doesn't come to them being kicked out of the league as the fans deserve much better.
20 Aug 2019 11:29:43
If you get a membership Andy, i'm pretty sure it includes access to the U23's and womens games.
20 Aug 2019 09:04:04
Beef, it doesn't need to be a stonewall pen, once the ref has given it they need reason to not give it. There was contact so VAR couldn't over rule the ref.
Although they got the right decision for the offside there should be a time limit, if it can't be proven in say 30 seconds it's offside, benefit of the doubt goes with the attacking team.