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02 Apr 2024 09:57:02
Hi Ed,

If Amorim were to come in as our next manager do you think he would look to Inacio or Edwards to sign?

Cheers.

Bmena-red

{Ed002's Note - Inacio will emain of interest but Liverpool would neen to pay his foull buy out clause in a single payment. Edwards would be a good option to replace Salah but I would not yold yuour breath about a move to Anfield.}


1.) 02 Apr 2024 18:14:08
Thanks for the reply mate.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks, sorry about the typos. Fat fingers on phone.}


 

 

18 Mar 2024 11:54:04
Hi Ed,

I see rumours about a player called Sudakov this morning, do you know of any interest from liverpool?

Cheers.

Bmena-red

{Ed002's Note - Heorhiy/Georgiy Sudakov (AM) Brighton and Barcelona interest has gone with the outrageous financial demands. Arsenal have been regularly scouting the player but it has gone no further. Seen by Chelsea as an option to Arsen Zakharyan who they were repeatedly blocked from signing and eventually moved to Real Sociedad - but they will not pay the asking price. Manchester United have sent scouts but it is hard to see their need for an AM player. Manchester City, Liverpool, Napoli and Bayern Munich have also sent scouts but none have declared an interest. Juventus see him as a relaible replacement for Mohamed Ihattaren as they search for an AM player but again the finances are a significant issue but they may well win out.}


 

 

11 Jan 2024 13:03:41
Hi Ed, do
You know if LFC are exploring transfers for this month?

Thanks in advance mate.

Bmena-red

{Ed002's Note - Read the posts.}


1.) 11 Jan 2024 22:11:25
Bmena-red I think the simple answer is no mate. Or very unlikely, as Linders advised this week we invested heavily in the summer already.


2.) 12 Jan 2024 08:04:06
I would suspect the only chance to sign a player in Jan if a main summer target becomes available by considering a move to a rival. Other than that nothing happening this window, unless Mbappe wants to sign a pre contract for next season which I doubt he is either off to Real or staying at PSG.


3.) 12 Jan 2024 08:36:24
Unless they think Thiago and Baj can’t get fully fit to properly contribute. Then we will need to sign someone, probably one from the list ed002 has been providing.


4.) 12 Jan 2024 14:18:42
Cheers folks! Doesn’t seem that any of our targets will become available in January. I don’t acctually agree that we need to sign anyone Mark. I would have liked some reinforcements at LB but unless we plan to sell Tsimi in the summer it probably wouldn’t make much sense.


5.) 12 Jan 2024 16:50:14
All i’m saying is, take salah’s wage and double it over 5 years, that’s 180million. Combined cost of fee and wages for a replacement of his calibre would cost well over that. Just make the french lad’s mum happy and get it done… come on.


6.) 13 Jan 2024 03:13:56
I don’t think we will sign any one and, in all honesty, the squad depth is good enough now. We can always improve but there isn't a pressing need for anyone, and I like that the bshsnce of the current squad gives game time to our younger players.


7.) 13 Jan 2024 10:52:23
Spot on @Seano.


 

 

07 Sep 2023 23:40:56
Hi Ed,

Thanks for your work today get the transfer window, I'm sure it gets monotonous at times.

I'm really pleased with our business this summer, I think szbo and mac are brilliant and the endo transfer hopefully allows Bajcetic more time to get up to speed.

Do you think the club would have made a bid for Bellingham had they known Henderson and Fabinho would be leaving? In hindsight he didn't go for that much with the market inflating so rapidly with Saudi Arabian influence.

Cheers.

Bmena-red

{Ed002's Note - Bellingham was never going to be joining LIverpool. Real Madrid are a very attractive option.}


1.) 08 Sep 2023 10:22:23
It’s a bloody nice city too.


2.) 08 Sep 2023 11:40:05
Bellingham's salary demands would have made it impossible for the club to do, regardless of the size of the fee.


3.) 08 Sep 2023 12:30:16
Fair enough, cheers for response. He looks a superstar and Madrid have a fearsome midfield for next few years it seems.

As I say, very happy with our midfield moving forward as well.


4.) 08 Sep 2023 18:18:06
I predict Bellingham will return to England after 5 years or so in Madrid. Hopefully Liverpool will be in a position to sign him and I suspect he will be keen to join over City or Arsenal or Chelsea especially if Klopp remains the coach.


5.) 08 Sep 2023 19:48:18
Bellingham wouldn't have played upfront for us and as such not done what he's doing for a Madrid.

He is doing something entirely different over there. Also there's more speed than La liga as well.

Genuinely believe we got the right player for us and Bellingham went to the right club for him.

We'll compare in the 24/ 25 CL final.


6.) 08 Sep 2023 21:04:40
Mad to think there was a time when we couldn't sign Gareth Barry for 12 million.

Now we are dropping 60 mils on world class talent like sboz.


7.) 09 Sep 2023 08:26:59
Delicious tapas vs fish&chips, no brainer!

{Ed025's Note - absolutely Lee....fish and chips is amazing compared to that tapas crap...and olives?..what are they all about?..


8.) 09 Sep 2023 10:35:04
Word up Ed025 ?.


9.) 09 Sep 2023 13:29:53
Ed025 am from Grimsby fish and chips every day of the week and twice of Friday.

{Ed025's Note - dead right grino, its our national dish mate along with a sunday roast, im not totally Johnny English though as i do enjoy the odd Ruby..


10.) 10 Sep 2023 09:40:41
Ed025 am a greedy **** we have 4 roasts normally a week lol but I love an Indian Thai or a chinese. But I don’t like silly little plates of food ? lol ?.


11.) 10 Sep 2023 11:38:31
Hey Ed, our national dish, Fish n Chips is Spanish, is in fact Spanish, sorry, it was Spanish Jews who introduced it to the English in the 1500's.


12.) 10 Sep 2023 18:57:55
That’s ridiculous comment Humblekop, problem is the whole league are capable of dropping 60mil on players now.


13.) 11 Sep 2023 09:12:31
Enjoying regular Rubys is about the most English trait available.


 

 

17 Jul 2023 18:40:54
I agree with some of the posters on here who say that Bajcetic is a better prospect than Lavia.

But I'm certainly not opposed to signing Lavia as I see Bajcetic as more of a CM that DM.

Would any of the Ed's know if the club's plan is for Bajcetic to play in the 'Fabinho' role for us moving forward? If he is an out and out DM then certainly someone like Llorente would make more sense.

Cheers.

Bmena-red

{Ed002's Note - The club still appear to be trying to settle on targets - clearly Lavia is an option. Only when they figure out what they do in the end will determine if Bajcetic has an opportunity or will remain on the fringes for another season. Clearly the kid is well liked.}


1.) 17 Jul 2023 20:03:26
Bah will have to carefully managed this season in regard the lads injury from the last season, with that in mind we do need a DM.


2.) 17 Jul 2023 20:25:25
Only question mark I have over Baj is that he seems to lack of bit of pace. In that sense I don’t see him as an upgrade on Fab but other than that great potential.


3.) 17 Jul 2023 21:01:28
Don’t need pace when you can skin the likes of Fernandez.


4.) 17 Jul 2023 21:33:20
Kew17, you don't need pace if you're as technically as sound as Baj is. At that point, you just need to know what what's around you, be situationally aware and let the ball do the running. Like Thiago in his pump.


5.) 17 Jul 2023 21:56:18
Oli, I only pointed out Baj had injury, nothing re pace, I think the kids going to be a big player in his future.


6.) 17 Jul 2023 22:37:52
Thanks for the reply Ed!

Glad he is well liked and I hope he gets his chance. Last season his skill set seemed like it may be more effective as one of our B2B style midfielders but I’m sure the coaches get a better look at him in training everyday and hopefully have a plan how to integrate him in.


7.) 18 Jul 2023 13:40:38
Sorry Kew17. My post was for Brummyred.


 

 

 

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26 Jun 2024 21:42:54
Motd fever here. Can any of the beds tell us where Kvratashelia (spelling) will be off to?

What a player.

Bmena-red

{Ed025's Note - he is due to be tiling a bathroom in Tbilisi in 2 weeks Bmena..


1.) 26 Jun 2024 22:40:53
He's off to Köln.


2.) 26 Jun 2024 23:53:53
By the time the commentator had finished pronouncing his name he'd scored.


3.) 27 Jun 2024 00:45:11
He's been compared to the great Brazilian winger Mildred.
In fact, he's known as the Georgian Mildred by some respected judges.
Well, just me.


4.) 27 Jun 2024 02:50:43
Nice one Ed, made me laugh ??.


5.) 27 Jun 2024 07:19:23
Decent Rigsby ?

I don’t rate him to be honest. I think he’s easy to defend against, but I’ve been wrong before.


6.) 27 Jun 2024 07:58:36
Rigsby ??

Not sure how many will get that ??‍♂️.


7.) 27 Jun 2024 08:07:50
PSG want him.


8.) 27 Jun 2024 09:22:34
Rigsby
How long have you been waiting to post that. From early 70's maybe.


9.) 27 Jun 2024 10:43:58
To me he’s the best wide player on the market by a country mile, he wants to leave Napoli and play for a champions league club, he scores all kinds of goals (although he also likes having a pop from distance at random), he’s physically very strong and he’s fearless one on one. We should at least try to get him if the scouts think he’s worth it, and the stats show that they really should consider him seriously.


10.) 27 Jun 2024 11:31:42
Rigsby, I watched that movie (years after, btw) and it was a classic. Big up, man.


 

 

16 Jun 2024 21:15:56
Bellingham is an excellent player. but he's certainly learned how to fall down from his time at Madrid.

Bmena-red

1.) 16 Jun 2024 21:55:56
Look forward to England getting knocked out.


2.) 16 Jun 2024 22:07:22
Maybe we can put a cheeky bid in for him.


3.) 16 Jun 2024 22:19:18
Gotta say hats off to Southgate.

I know international footie is dreck, but I didn't think it was possible to make a midfield and attack consisting of Rice, Trent, Bellingham, Foden, Saka and Kane look like they were part of a bad League One side.

Truly a special talent. Watch him bore his way to the semi final.


4.) 16 Jun 2024 22:51:36
Did nothing in the second half. Let’s see if he can be excellent both halves of a game. Should have been pushing the team forward in second half. Thought Trent did well as an 8.


5.) 16 Jun 2024 23:44:29
Yet we won and didn't look like conceding. The second half was dull but we got the goal early and maybe played within ourselves. It was the first game of what is hopefully a long tournament.


6.) 17 Jun 2024 00:11:38
Agree warmachine on both Bellingham and Trent.

Bellingham was full of energy in the first half but did nothing at all in the 2nd. Maybe I'm bias but the love in shown to him by pundits on bbc was way over the top.

Guehi or Saka was MOM for me.

{Ed025's Note - or even our marvelous keeper Bmena?..


7.) 17 Jun 2024 00:36:02
Bellingham was MotM. Pundits have to talk things up. Bellingham was the talking point because he played well, scored the winning goal, was our youngest player on the back of a great season for Madrid. He was the story of the night and we have to have a story.
If we'd seen Madrid play like England tonight we'd be talking about how they just get the job done.


8.) 17 Jun 2024 01:00:24
Didn’t look like conceding?

Did you watch the full game Rigsby?


9.) 17 Jun 2024 06:01:54
I’m sorry but England were dreadful. Also I I’ve never seen a player as smug as Bellingham in quite some time. Undoubtedly a talent, but his entire manner on the pitch is dreadful.
Big time Charlie in the making.

{Ed001's Note - here we go, drag down the player who has made something of himself. Bellingham is a nice lad and I very much doubt he will ever be a big time Charlie.}


10.) 17 Jun 2024 06:11:01
I think you might just be bias Bmena.

Bellingham great in 1st but did. Nothing in 2nd? You’ve just perfectly summed up Saka who you gave MoM to mate.

Did Bellingham fade out of the game as it wore on? Sure, but there were moments he was a completely different gravy to anyone on the pitch. They kicked the sh@t out of him all game.

Hard to believe he’s only 20 and looks like the leading light of that team.

I was pleasantly surprised in first 20 mins by England, we look dominant, assured and slick. The least 70 mins was sadly back to dull Southgate football that I can’t watch in between tournaments.


11.) 17 Jun 2024 08:04:01
I watched it all, Ron.
I saw England get an early goal and see out the game for an important win in the first game. We could have kept the ball much better in the second half but we played fairly risk free football having done the damage early on.
Serbia had six shots and only one on target that being a long range shot straight at Pickford. They also put in a few decent crosses that were dealt with. We didn't look like conceding to me.
What did you see, mate?


12.) 17 Jun 2024 08:27:04
Bellingham was confident, and has every right to be, he’s literally being playing since he was 16, big time Charlie is unfair, I’m pretty sure if he was a big time Charlie he wouldn’t have made such an effort to be multilingual as he is and make the absolute best of his talent, you don’t get that far without hard work. Personally think he’s a bright confident lad who knuckles down and works his arse off. Shame he will never play for us.


13.) 17 Jun 2024 09:19:10
I saw Pickford make a great save tipping a shot over the bar, I saw Kane get his head in the way of a goal bound shot.
I saw Serbia miss the target when I would have scored.

Serbia weren’t good enough but we definitely tried our hardest to throw that game away, like many of England’s Southgate games.


14.) 17 Jun 2024 09:37:59
I thought Bellingham was great and seems like a great lad.
He once tried to talk about himself in the third person which made me want to throw a shoe at the screen but it was hopefully only a one-off.


15.) 17 Jun 2024 09:43:22
@Victor are you saying Bellingham “literally” didn’t play football before he was 16?


16.) 17 Jun 2024 09:53:53
Not dragging him down Ed. Just commenting on what I’ve seen. The posing. The preening. Seen it all before. Maybe you should take your England Rose tinted glasses off and you’d see that too.

{Ed001's Note - England rose tinted glasses? You are really embarrassing yourself now. More ignorance. Perhaps you should actually learn about the lad before turning on him out of a complete lack of any knowledge of him. He is about as far from a big time Charlie as it gets. Go on and listen to his interview about the celebration of his goal and tell me how big time that is. There is nothing worse than people making assumptions out of pure unadulterated ignorance and you are doing that now.}


17.) 17 Jun 2024 09:54:36
Wondered how long it would be until people started to turn on Bellingham. Have to say didn’t think it would be as early as game one!

Love to build people up and tear them down don’t we!


18.) 17 Jun 2024 10:03:53
A great save, Ron? ?
Anyway, I respectfully disagree with you. I saw England trying not throw the game away. Playing low risk football and often just clearing the ball from danger areas.
The result and stats show that England didn't do enough to throw the game away as you have claimed they tried to do.


19.) 17 Jun 2024 12:18:08
He genuinely looks like a special talent that is incredibly humble and more importantly looks to just be expressing himself and having fun, which I think is a problem in England especially having very talented players get their creativity and love for the game coached out of them for the sake of pragmatism. LFC fan or not JB is an absolute joy to watch play and talk so openly and genuinely. Far to little of it these days and we just be happy he is proud to wear the England shirt. He genuinely makes me want to watch England games again.


20.) 17 Jun 2024 14:50:36
He seems like a nice enough lad to me for a youngster. Incredibly talented and above all else he has excellent manners and respect which I believe is rare nowadays with youngsters. Clearly raised right, I wish the lad the best of luck, I think we'll see special things from him.


21.) 17 Jun 2024 18:21:45
Ed01 to be fair, the England game was the worst and least exciting game I have watched so far and I've watched near all of them fully bar 2 of them. Absolute rubbish served up as the players had NO idea what they were doing nor where they were supposed to be. Even the Albanians knew what they were doing and could have pulled the upset vs Italy.

As for Jude, the kid is as well-grounded as you will ever find based on his words and the way he carrys himself. His parents esp. his mom seems to have a good influence on him. He is a boss player as well hence, the true role model, IMO.

Nyone calling Jude smug, is jut projecting and suffering from some serious jealousy and bitterness issues and needs to go sort themselves out, IMO.


 

 

30 Aug 2023 21:17:12
I'm not against the Gravenberch signing, hoping Klopp can get the best out of him. But would someone explain to me his position/ role in the squad? My understanding was that he occupied similar positions to Jones and Elliot which makes me wonder how we get minutes for all these young midfielders.

Bmena-red

1.) 30 Aug 2023 21:27:10
Will be like a Gini type role I'd imagine.


2.) 30 Aug 2023 21:47:11
Happy if we get him. If you would have told me we would sign McAllister, Szoboszlai and Gravenberch in this window I would have took it. Not to mention a fourth in Endo.


3.) 30 Aug 2023 21:51:40
Agree Jones. The Endo transfer has grown on me a lot as I’m hoping it means the club are going to give young Bajcetic a shot at being our future holding mid. Why spend hundreds of millions when we have a top youngster already in the squad needing minutes.


4.) 30 Aug 2023 22:03:55
Yes agree. Our midfield going forward is Gravenberch, McAllister, Szoboszlai, Bacjetic, Elliot, Jones, Endo and Thiago. If we get Gravenberch that is. The average age is now considerably less and players such as Jones and Elliot have been learning for a couple of seasons now.


5.) 30 Aug 2023 22:51:10
I agree Macca, Dom, Endo, Gravenberch (with perhaps Andre in January? ) along with Baj, Harvey, Curtis and a couple more youngsters coming through has a lot healthier look to it than it did in June. Not forgetting we will have one more season with Thiago on the books.

I’d love Hincapie to be the big surprise signing on Friday - that would also be a great signing for the future.


6.) 30 Aug 2023 23:07:13
Inverted left winger I imagine.


7.) 31 Aug 2023 01:15:54
I'm glad you're not against the Gravenberch signing, Bmena-red.
We've waited long enough and we don't anyone throwing a spanner in the works now.


8.) 31 Aug 2023 11:00:34
We have potentially Andre to come in Jan as well, should he be signed. I see people being reserved on Gravenberch and frankly, I haven't seen him play enuff to judge him. But as I always say if he is who Klopp wants then, Im for it. Let's see if he joins.


 

 

20 Aug 2023 12:21:27
Could Ed's or other posters help me understand how refereeing is of such a poor standard?

Some terrible decisions been made these opening 2 weeks. Last week I posted about the Brentford penalty not being given against united, this week there was a clear handball in the United game and then Martinez clearly committed a foul in the box but no penalty given?!? I'm not even referencing the mac red card yesterday, personally I thought it was a yellow but can't have many complaints being given for a red imo.

I don't watch much football out of England, is the refereeing as poor throughout Europe? As Firmane alluded to in a previous post it's making watching the game a struggle when easy decisions aren't being given. What are we doing to improve the quality of refereeing and if we aren't doing anything, why not?

Cheers.

Bmena-red

{Ed001's Note - refereeing standards everywhere are poor, but you expect it in Italy and Spain as the big clubs pay so much money for favourable decisions *coughBarca,Juvecough*. It is defo falling because no one is allowed to question decisions made as they immediately back each other up, rather than looking at ways to improve how they officiate.}


1.) 20 Aug 2023 13:20:30
Journalists are to blame for a lot of this I would say as well Ed, they make out fans are tin foil hat conspiracy theorists for even suggesting corruption, even thought it’s been proven many times before and they know it’s true.

{Ed001's Note - journalists are a joke these days - most of them are just propaganda mouthpieces or write clickbait crap. There is no doubt in my mind that there is a problem with corruption in the game that has only grown and it clearly extends to match officials. The current Barca scandal proves it is at the highest level of the game.}


2.) 20 Aug 2023 13:47:04
Completely agree. It’s happened in other leagues and been proven, it’s happened in other sports and been proven. But for some reason we think we’re above it

South Korea in the 2002 World Cup is still one of the worst examples I’ve ever seen. The two games against Spain and Italy particularly.


3.) 20 Aug 2023 13:55:00
Ed1, do you think people like Romano are on certain agents payrolls to say and promote certain things? He was a joke during the caicedo debacle.

{Ed001's Note - he at best gets fed stuff by agents does mister after the fact. He is probably happy to put stuff out as he gets so many clicks on his bait.}


4.) 20 Aug 2023 14:58:09
It's not surprising simply because it's big money business now. Clubs went from being worth millions to billions in less than a decade. And wherever money goes it corrupts. Morals, rules, right or wrong and everything else go out the window. And the sun still rises the next day. Sadly.


5.) 20 Aug 2023 16:03:24
I do sympathise with up and coming Refs. There’s some decent lads out there officiating well. It’s when they reach the Top the corruption kicks in.


6.) 20 Aug 2023 16:42:38
The only people to listen to are the Eds here and perhaps one or two others looks Ornstein and Joyce re transfers.


7.) 20 Aug 2023 18:50:01
Game is played at such a high speed these days refs have a tough job and they are human. But how the VAR backs up poor decisions definitely more than raises an eyebrow. Arguably we have far more highly controversial decisions now w VAR than we did before its inception. We all know VAR is supposed to bring some sense into non sensical decisions etc but it's just backing up one poor decision after the next. Definitely invites the conspiracy theories and it's easy to see why. Not saying brown ones are changing hands but wouldn't be surprised in the least. It would explain a lot.


8.) 20 Aug 2023 19:44:37
The problem is even when they take their time they still cock it up.

Look at the women’s World Cup final today.

Var took ages to ask the ref to have a look at the handball and then discussed it for another few minutes. If you have to talk about something for three or four minutes and view five different angles then I personally don’t think you should overturn the refs original decision. Clearly there’s no obvious error in that subjective decision.


9.) 20 Aug 2023 19:45:44
VAR is still a person. They just have more information and get things wrong.


10.) 20 Aug 2023 22:25:41
Rigsby there are some decisions that are neither right nor wrong as they are very subjective and that’s what the ‘clear and obvious’ cop out rule was brought in for.

There are too many decisions though that are clearly and obviously wrong and VAR look at it in slow mo at 5 different angles and in freeze frame yet still come to the wrong decision. The Onana fould last week being just one glaring example.

I’m sorry but you simply can’t get that decision wrong unless it’s on purpose. That’s why I’m convinced of corruption in the game. All VAR has done is it’s given more control to the incompetent, untrustworthy officials allowing them to actively manufacture an outcome.

They are not accountable for their actions and even if they were found to be corrupt (which they undoubtably are) the FA and the Premier League would cover it up as it damages their brand.

Money has destroyed the game we love unfortunately.


11.) 20 Aug 2023 22:29:35
But it was clearly a handball against England Wassa?

Thanks for the info Ed. Such a shame for the fans that they have to endure these controversial and at times clearly corrupt decisions.

Has there been anyone speak out publicly about the corruption in the English game? Seems mad that not one high profile pundit would take the risk and mention it.

{Ed001's Note - no, the English like to believe their game is clean.}


12.) 21 Aug 2023 06:52:36
Bring in AI for VAR.

It should already be ‘learning’ from the hundreds of incidents which happen every game.

AI would be consistent and it would gradually get better rather than worse.


13.) 21 Aug 2023 10:31:31
VAR is simply infuriating - look the onfield refs will miss things, always going to happen due to the speed of the game, players obstructing view etc, it happens and its no bother

How the VAR guy though sees the exact same replays that we all see and yet somehow come to a different decision? I mean, even recent obvious ones:
- The Lindelof handball vs West Ham last season? Not even looked at
- the Rodri handball against Everton? Could have saw Everton relegated and cost us a title
- The MacAllister challenge? Very, very harsh.
- The Chelsea handball in our opening game?
- The Onana challenge that wiped out 2 Wolves players?
- The penalty City got for handball against Wolves last season? I mean come on, the ball hit his ribs and his hands were clearly outstretched upwards above his head at the time - every replay showed that yet still a penalty was given?
- The penalty, sending off, lack of penalty given to Arsenal in the City game last season - that match was a real collection of wtf moments from the ref and VAR if i'm honest

And that's just matches that I have personally watched last season and this season so far - a small collection but if you speak to any fan (well apart really from City or Utd fans lol, though Utd ones do still bemoan decisions) you can see there are simply countless of these wtf moments in so many matches

And that is the thing most honest fans struggle to comprehend. Is it corruption and bribes involved or are the VAR officials really this mind-blowing idiotic they do not see what every fan and pundit alike sees? Why have officials at the PGMOL not dealt with such incompetence? I mean they give a club an apology, stand down the officials a week and that's it so honestly how have they not devised some sort of plan for dealing with this?

I mean, is it at all possible that they see no issues with VAR?
Seems improbable doesn't it?
Is corruption afoot and they are all simply 'in on it'? I really hope not.
Honestly though, there is clearly a problem so devise a solution and manage the problem - i mean VAR really shouldn't be this difficult should it?

VAR should be a great aid to the onfield refs - the ref misses something or gets something wrong and the VAR official should simply direct him to look at it again - simples
Offsides - don't even need lines, its 'clear and obvious' - glance at a still of it, if he's off he's off. If it's too close to tell then you do not need minute lines to tell you as it's not 'clear and obvious' then if you're doing that - you give the benefit of the doubt to the attacker - again, simples and about 30 secs to do that
Penalties - again 30 secs max - is it a handball or a foul - 30 secs of looking at stills should make that clear. If not then it's not 'clear or obvious' so VAR stays out and leaves it to the onfield decision

Honestly, the real frustrating thing for fans is that VAR is actually a very useful tool, it's use currently is just insane as the rules seem to be rewritten each week.


 

 

14 Aug 2023 22:09:15
New season but same old VAR. That penalty decision at the end of the United game was one of the worst I've seen. Scandalous that the VAR don't intervene there.

Bmena-red

1.) 14 Aug 2023 22:19:58
Crazy decision that.

I’ve heard lots of pundits have Wolves to go down this season but they were by far the better team tonight.


2.) 14 Aug 2023 22:28:25
Just saw that. The more you watch football the more it looks like something dodgy is going on.

So what that ref and VAR are saying is that you can just jump at someone in the box and clatter them without getting anywhere near the ball? I wonder whether they would’ve given a free kick if it was the defender jumping at the keeper? Of course they would.

Incompetent at best, but I’m pretty sure it’s corruption. Nobody can get that decision wrong unless it’s on purpose.


3.) 14 Aug 2023 22:33:06
I just don’t understand football anymore guys. Decisions like that just make me sad.

I mean that was a foul. All day and every day. He’s nowhere near the ball and a mile late.

So what wasn’t clear and obvious?


4.) 14 Aug 2023 22:38:19
If that’s the other way round, and a goal was scored, they’d rule it out. He gets nowhere near the ball and cleans the player out, it’s dangerous and should be a penalty.


5.) 14 Aug 2023 22:38:28
Yep decisions like that do leave you a bit disillusioned even as a neutral. Does make me slightly more annoyed that of course it went United’s way but even if it was against us that is a stone wall penalty.

Whoever was on VAR should face disciplinary not that is does much good after 3 points lost. The cheek then to book the Wolves manager is outrageous. What’s worse is that VAR watched the replay about 10 times.


6.) 14 Aug 2023 22:42:53
They didn’t intervene because it wasn’t ‘ clear and obvious’, now it’s clearly a foul and obviously the refs are incompetent so where’s the issue? Refs as usual allowed hide behind their decisions! You know 100% if that was Utd trailing it would have been overturned all day long, decisions like this are stacked against the smaller clubs it’s robbery in plain sight!


7.) 14 Aug 2023 22:44:52
It beggers belief that decision. They really need to explain that one!


8.) 14 Aug 2023 23:18:28
The ball was gone so I reckon that's why they left it alone. Wolves guy headed the ball and then Onana clattered into the other guy, basically took him out but off the ball or after the ball so Onana's foul didn't stop a chance so that's why I reckon they didn't overturn it.


9.) 14 Aug 2023 23:43:49
Just watched Dermot in the post-match. says he thinks it's a pen, they (guys in studio) think it's a pen, but that doesn't mean the decision was a howler.

I don't quite understand how they make this so difficult.


10.) 15 Aug 2023 00:38:27
No way! That was definitely a pen. Wolves were so unlucky, so many shots etc I think they played well. Let’s wait and see what gets said about the penalty not being given. (Probably nothing! )


11.) 15 Aug 2023 01:23:56
Sean Ireland, since when did stopping a chance constitute a penalty? If you are facing away from goal and get fouled in the box it's a penalty. What do you define as a chance?


12.) 15 Aug 2023 06:37:25
The official on VAR last night, Salisbury I believe, was the same guy on VAR that didn't give Brighton a penalty against Spurs in April - and was subsequently demoted.

THE SAME PERSON!

Make a mistake once, ok, but the same mistake again c'mon peeps, convince me that there is no corruption in football.


13.) 15 Aug 2023 07:47:35
Wolves not getting a clear pen at old Trafford at the end of the game… shocker. Var didn’t intervene - shocker. Man U won because of it - shocker. Clearly the var man was a Utd fan no doubt.


14.) 15 Aug 2023 07:49:45
That was a pen all day, everyday. How that wasn’t given, is beyond me. Oman’s missed the ball completed and punched the Wolves player right in the face. Utd as usual, got away with one with VAR, arguably just as Chelsea did with the Jackson handball incident at the Shed.

VAR is getting worse but that we already knew. Seven Hag has dient over 400m and counting in one year, and is still getting his arse handed to him by the tactical guru named Gary O’Neil. Great time to be a Utd fan.


15.) 15 Aug 2023 08:25:01
@Rigsby, if it had been before the ball was headed away then I think that would have been deemed as stopping a chance and given. The ball was already headed away so it's more like the Spurs keeper who took out Schade after he shot wide and that also wasn't given. Before the shot/ header would be having a chance to score, after you have already missed isn't - that's what I mean and that's why I didn't think they gave it.


16.) 15 Aug 2023 08:35:20
The wolves player gets the ball then gets cleaned out afterwards…. it would 100% be a foul if it happened in the middle of the pitch, and so should be 100% be a foul in the box. The keeper has no more right to clatter into people after the ball has gone than anyone else.


17.) 15 Aug 2023 09:30:38
So we are now saying that tackling a player after the ball has gone is ok? Whoops, sorry I broke your leg there mate but you had passed the ball after all.


18.) 15 Aug 2023 09:44:01
Spot on, SGred. If the keeper misses the ball completely and punches the player then, is is as good as an outfield player missing the ball completely, gets the man and a foul is awarded. In this case, a foul is awarded in the box when Onana misses the ball and clatters into the player’s head hence, penalty. It’s that simple.


19.) 15 Aug 2023 10:56:50
As blatant a penalty as you will ever see yet not given - I would seriously love if we make the guy in charge of VAR come out and explain why he thought it wasn't when it looked nailed on to every other person watching the same replays

They have a big thing out now about managers and player reactions and attitudes towards officials - wouldn't the logical step be to fix the issues that are causing these reactions?

I mean every weekend last season there was at least one incident where the decision given could only be rated using a wtf scale - surely sorting the idiotic decisions would reduce the reactions from players and staff?


20.) 15 Aug 2023 11:38:11
Bill, it is arrogance and incompetence all rolled in one. These people possess a level of incompetence that is only matched by their level of arrogance. I mean, look at the way they carry themselves on the pitch as if they are the world's gift to football.


 

 

 

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20 Jul 2024 19:37:19
Thanks Ed!

Can anyone shed light on why PSG are moving on from Ugarte so soon after signing him?

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{Ed002's Note - Manuel Ugarte (DM) Agent has said that the player and PSG may be open to a move if the right offer is made. He has spoken with Chelsea but it is difficult to see if they have a need. He has also spoken with Manchester United, Juventus, Newcastle, Milan, Spurs and Arsenal. I suspect Italy is the most likely destination but PSG might see any sale being dependent on adding Guimaraes or Neves although, right now, he appears to be heading elsewhere. Manchester United may well push to add him as a Casemiro replacement.}


 

 

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19 Jul 2024 05:15:37
I haven't seen the lad play but by all accounts it seems like a great signing for united.

That being said, we have an excellent young cb in Quansah and I wouldn't have wanted to go into week 1 with this 18 year old from the French league as a starter for us. We are in a vastly different situation from united and I think its fair to speculate that while this may be a good signing for then I don't think it was the right move for us.

Good luck to the young lad, a tough place to go at his age and the level of expectation that will undoubtly be placed on him.

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Thanks for the answer Ed. Would your starting cb partnership be virgil and quansah going into this season? Personally I think quansah has to start after his breakthrough last season.

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23 Jun 2024 10:38:24
Agree he's a great player on his day 25. But think hailstones points are valid, don't see why a tol team would take a risk on someone with those injury issues.

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{Ed025's Note - he got injuries because he was worked to death Bmena, Dyche has had him playing a lone furrow up there with little or no support mate, the others dont press so its up to him to chase down every ball when the opposition have it and its just not sustainable im afraid, if he does go to Newcastle you just see how he performs when he has the likes of Isak, Gordon and co helping him


 

 

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12 Jun 2024 21:21:57
Lol ed25. Infound it bizarre that Bayern appointed him. Seemed an awful manager when at Burnley.

I acctually like Gomez a lot. And I thought his appearances as inverted left wing back this season were excellent. A good squad player with good versatility but if he wants first team football I would be happy to move him on.

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Agree with MK here for sure.

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19 Jul 2024 05:22:00
Really Brummy? I haven't been overly impressed with Onana when I've seen him. That lad Branthwaite on the other hand has looked dead good on the ball and would be a great signing for us. maybe not worth the money being quoted but if that's the going rate I guess that's what he costs. Seems like a city player to me.

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18 Jun 2024 14:42:55
Ipswich away is a tough opener imo.

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17 Jun 2024 13:28:45
I thought jude had a good first half but no more than that.

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17 Jun 2024 00:11:38
Agree warmachine on both Bellingham and Trent.

Bellingham was full of energy in the first half but did nothing at all in the 2nd. Maybe I'm bias but the love in shown to him by pundits on bbc was way over the top.

Guehi or Saka was MOM for me.

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