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01 Dec 2021 02:40:17
I think it was missed by the Evertonians on their page, they are understandably annoyed at the moment. however Ed0666 has to get appreciated for the best explanation of their drop in form.

Apparently It all went down hill when DCL started crossdressing.



{Ed0666's Note - I think it’s plausible don’t you Ben? 😂

1.) 01 Dec 2021 11:39:42
Nice one 0666 :) is that how he got injured? Went over on one of his high heels or pulled a muscle doing up his bra strap?

2.) 01 Dec 2021 12:02:15
They went mental on Twitter at half time in the game vs Brentford on Sunday when he appeard on TV advertising a razor. One beauty was "fit for television but not fit to play" 🤣.

3.) 01 Dec 2021 07:14:54
Definitley, I think a few of his teammates are a bit concerned that's for sure! I had no idea about this until I saw a photo of him in hotpants and a bowler hat adorned on the cover of some magazine.

What must big Dunc say!? Hahaha.

{Ed0666's Note - in all seriousness I think what he did was super courageous and I applaud DCL for breaking barriers. There’s so much ignorance and prejudice in football so we really do have to applaud DCL’s bravery. Not only is he a superb player but clearly a good egg.

4.) 01 Dec 2021 14:28:39
I’m glad Mrs Doubtfire isn’t playing tonight.

5.) 01 Dec 2021 22:47:22
We should be better than resorting to comments on people’s appearance or how they choose to dress.

6.) 02 Dec 2021 00:40:08
Well said Ed0666 - let the bloke wear what he wants, it’s 2021 and you can shop in whatever section you like. The far more concerning thing for Everton fans should be his continued absence form the pitch….

{Ed0666's Note - they truly are suffering mate. DCL is a profound loss to them and what’s happened to Richarlason he’s become rubbish overnight



28 Jun 2021 09:46:07
Ed01, not sure if this has been covered. I couldn't find it in articles so can I request one . basically the liverpool team of the 90s - spiceboys and Evans up to houllier. The almost rise and fall. It always seemed we were a player or two short to compete with fergusons then united team - a centre half (then we sign babb and scales) or a defensive midfielder ans we sign Ince but fir one reason or multiple they weren't good enough. If its been requested already apologies. otherwise I will make do until its ready in 2023 with fowler goals!


{Ed001's Note - I am actually in the middle of research on one on Evans, so it will cover all of that. But 2023 might be a bit hopeful, maybe 2025?}

1.) 28 Jun 2021 10:08:20
Players were just not good enough. Babb has a good WC. But like others that era we kept buying stand outs for poor sides. Babb, Coventry wasn’t it? Scales, Wimbledon. Dicks, WHU. Going in for young talent without top level experiences. James from Watford, Redknapp from B’mouth. Also we loved a good few from Denmark and Norway. Gerards first signing was Ferri did he even make one appearance? Not all these were terrible. But collectively they were. Some just didn’t really work out apart from the odd game. Cheryou was it? Next Zidane. Collymore, tool basically. Think our spice boys were around the 96 period. Look at any behind the scenes programme about the England team at Euro 96. Dentist chairs etc.
I think Fergie just had a way to command most authority with his squads. A fantastic youth team that came through together, where we had Macca, Fowler and Marsh I think. Also unlucky with some players we signed and some we missed out on. like Rob Jones and his shins. Utd also liked to snag a player we went for. Vidic, Cantona, Ronaldo off the top of my head.

2.) 28 Jun 2021 11:26:48
Problem with the Spice Boys was obvious - lack of quality in defence, an eejit in goal and Evans attempts to instill some discipline were undermined by the Chairman wanting to be everyone's bestie.

Babb had a good WC playing defensive shyteball for Big Jack, when Evans needed him to do things like cover large space or bring the ball out and pass it, he couldn't. Scales had a little bit more about him than Babb, but didn't seem to do to well with the transition from playing a deep line either. Wright was fairly good, but was getting on a bit by around 95-97 when the midfield and attack were good enough to win things. Ruddock wasted his talent by being a horrible twat who never looked after himself, and the likes of Kvarme and Bjornebye just weren't quite good enough. Rob Jones was the only real quality defender we had and injuries did him in by 1997.

I never understood the David James obsession that Evans had. Should've pegged him out first chance he got, but he persisted with him for years and then when he finally decided to bring another keeper, we spent most of a year trying to wrangle a Work Permit for Friedel instead of moving on to someone else.

When Houllier came in he just went too far with the rebuild. All he really needed to was peg out some bad influences like Ruddock, get a goalie and a quality defender or two (the latter he did easily) and go from there. But he completely changed the style, rooted out any player with genuine attacking intelligence and ultimately, apart from one season, we ended up not being any better in the league under him than Evans.

5 years, and what was at the time, a lot of money later and the squad Rafa inherited from Houllier was probably, player for player, worse than the one Houllier got from Evans.

3.) 28 Jun 2021 12:05:44
Spot on, SR. What I will say in Houllier's favor is that for all of Ged's flaws, he built the modern day LFC, the one that looked like a big club and started winning things again domestically and in Europe with that monstrous Cup Treble season topped up with CL qualification and Owen winning the Balon D'Or (when it actually meant something) . Just my opinion, really.

Many may not realize it now cos of all of the things Rafa and Klopp won for us BUT that was an absolutely outstanding achievement in 2001. I mean, we won every comp. we competed in except the PL which would be outrageous if it was done even now, IMO. The rival fans may poo-poo it as much as they want BUT deep down, they know how big of an achievement it was and still is. Ged did all that and hats off to him, all things considered. RIP and YNWA, Monsieur!

4.) 28 Jun 2021 12:56:25
David James, that was our problem, cost us many times, he was a classic case of learning with age, we weren't far off at all but he would be a major reason for costing us results on the field, players like Tanner, Pieknik (spelling), Marsh, Hutchinson, all poor players playing out there depth.

5.) 28 Jun 2021 14:03:11
Torben Pieknik one of the worst signings we ever made.
What did the scouting department see that made them decide he was the answer to our defensive problems.
Say what you like about our current crop of defenders but this proves we had a hell of a lot worse once pulling on the famous red jersey, dark days indeed.

6.) 28 Jun 2021 16:01:27
Piechnik was surely a case of tournament fever off the back of his performances for Denmark in the 1992 Euros.



06 Oct 2020 00:43:49
I think I am alone here and perhaps this is better for the conspiracy site but. The football matches just don't seem real, I'm not just taking about that result (s) yesterday and I'm sure every Evertonian may disagree but when watching the football just seems fake. Almost like watching fifa or proevo. im waiting for players energy bars to appear. Perhaps its to do with the deflected goals, players standing still, no defending at all but I don't understand people saying how they don't want crowds to return, better or more goals etc. The quality is abysmal and the supporters are truly what makes this game.

On another point, some clubs making signings where a weekly wage pays for the wages of a sacked mascot for life feels completely off, the feelgood factor football had now seems at odds with the rest of the world.


1.) 06 Oct 2020 02:18:44
This is definitely a strange season, Liverpool losing 7-2, City 5-2, United 6-1, Everton winning! This season has a very surreal feel to it, the amount of goals scored per game is absurd and getting a little embarrassing, I’m
starting to miss 0-0 draws.

2.) 06 Oct 2020 02:52:38
It is real. The playing field is levelled. Players like barkley and grealish are playing with a lot more freedom. If you've made it to the premier league you are a great footballer. But can you come to anfield and perform when 59090 fans are screaming at you and singing ynwa? Wilson is a good example. Although he was poor the other day, I don't think he can handle the pressure, despite being extremely skillful.

Bring back the fans for God sake. Liverpool really have the greatest fans in the world. We are definitely up there with barca, juve, bayern. We are liverpool, it's NEVER easy. We're cursed. We win the league (easily btw) and then a C.V. threatens our planet. Effing typical. We haven't even had the chance to thank our boys for finally delivering the title. I'm not really that bothered this season. I think we will probably win it. Someone is going to swipre Rodriguez (lol ed025) nah, they can't keep it up. Bless em, excited after 4 games, talking like they finally cracked it. But we broke the duck and won the title. I'm not going to slate any Liverpool player. I think we need to remember that these lot won the league. Origi, getting a lot of abuse and he scored some huge goals last season. Gomez and Adrian played a HUGE part. They are effing hero's. So what we come away from villa gutted, but we go back to anfield and a pretty big cabinet. Villa still dusting the old ones. 1 0, 7 2, 25 0, still only 3 points.

3.) 06 Oct 2020 04:02:30
The football quality is suffering because of the lack of supporters, defensively the Premier is nowhere near as good as it has been in recent years, and in general football just doesn’t feel the same.
Even before that catastrophe on Sunday, I was not enjoying the premiership as much as before C.V. and I sincerely hope for everyone’s sake that the scientists find a vaccine as soon as possible.

4.) 06 Oct 2020 05:03:03
I totally and utterly agree with you, Ben: I think you are alone there.

5.) 06 Oct 2020 08:08:05
Fans do make a difference but some people on here seem to think that it’s only our fans that are missing. Every team is in the same boat so are affected the same way. There is no home advantage anymore, the playing field has been levelled, now it boils down to player ability and managers’ tactics, and unfortunately our players were just not upto scratch against villa who played with the freedom of the city, whereas we just bottled it. Simple as.

6.) 06 Oct 2020 08:35:56
You may not be far off there, OP. You are not the only one who thinks this. I have seen many on SM saying the exact same thing. I do agree that everyone is in the same boat here and I do not think only our fans matter, as some do on here. Fans matter to all clubs so it is only normal that things look strange for everyone and all clubs are affected. The playing field is now level for everyone so we all have to just get on with it.

7.) 06 Oct 2020 10:02:28
Thanks to the comments, I really don't post often but regardless of whether I'm alone in thinking there is an artificial nature of the game at the moment the quality has definitely dropped. Because barkley or grealish or anyone else had a good game wasn't the point really, I was talking generally about the overall feeling. For me the crowds help make the game what it is.

8.) 06 Oct 2020 12:34:09
I don’t think football is suffering as such, we are seeing strange results and a real mix up in terms of some teams doing better than expected and some teams doing more poorly than expected. It’s more exciting and unpredictable if anything. I know some are hurting over the Villa game but I don’t think anyone complained football is being ruined when city got smashed or when United got smashed. As rubbish as it was being a Liverpool supporter the other night, imagine being a villa fan, or a neutral? I bet that was an amazing game to watch.

9.) 06 Oct 2020 12:34:51
It’s a good question but I can understand how without the intensity of the crowds, how sometimes the games must seem like they’re not real PL fixtures and intensity Might be more prone to dropping off.

I think the ability to play through the silence and still keep up the intensity of a ‘normal’ PL match week in, week out will defining as to who comes out on top. That and who’s got the most discipline and a captain who can keep things tight. Ie. Hendo will be crucial.



26 Sep 2020 16:05:58
I won't bring myself to praise Everton, however I just want to acknowledge the importance of the right manager with a clear plan. Ancellotti is a classy guy and an excellent manager. Too much importance and praise was directed towards the DOF position, and it obviously is. However, instead of signing 3 x 10s and 4 Lw suggested to Moshri he rebuilt the midfield and added the x factor in Rodriguez. They may finally be worth watching.


1.) 26 Sep 2020 17:12:22
I can understand why blues would be feeling excited. But. Still haven't played anyone good. Still can only beat what's in front of you, and i like scouse teams taking 3 points home from London.

2.) 26 Sep 2020 17:16:33
Wait till they play someone before anything they got a peno today that never was and don’t get me started on the mancs.

3.) 26 Sep 2020 17:19:52

4.) 26 Sep 2020 17:31:03
They're much improved under Ancelotti and are in the mix for a top 6 finish. Perhaps shouldn't be surprising, after all they have a far better manager than United, Chelsea and Arsenal even if they don't nesasarily have the same quality.

5.) 26 Sep 2020 17:42:13
Fair play,3 from 3.Good midfield this season, they are certainly as good as utd or Arsenal.

6.) 26 Sep 2020 18:11:32
Thanks to wrongly given penalty.

7.) 26 Sep 2020 18:15:22
Good on them, I was chufffed to hear about the result today.

8.) 26 Sep 2020 18:30:33
I'm not from Liverpool. but I would actually love to see both teams get top 4!b like the 80's again.

9.) 26 Sep 2020 18:42:58
As would I Jadon.

10.) 26 Sep 2020 18:46:32
I tip my hat to most of you for unbiased praise for us. Thank you. Sadly though, Robbiesline, Jay Dub Red, SupaReds - bitter much? "Still haven't played anyone good", "wait till they play someone (waffle) " Away against Spurs is one of the toughest games for everyone! Are you really sitting there thinking it's a guaranteed win for Liverpool when you have that fixture? Most likely you will hope to win but if you only take a point from that game then you'll be happy, knowing it's a positive result.

11.) 26 Sep 2020 18:52:46
And me Jadon.

12.) 26 Sep 2020 18:57:19
Sounds like you're the bitter one Worcester! Spurs away normally though but they have been poor. Decent start but as rightly stated you haven't played anyone really. Let's wait till we are at least 10 games in and talk again. Still forever in our shadow mate 😂😂😂 I'm only jesting. Carlo is class and will do a good job. Top 8 this season for sure.

13.) 26 Sep 2020 18:57:48
You're spot on Worcester.

14.) 26 Sep 2020 19:05:10
Every game in this league is difficult, it really doesn't matter which team you play which is why it's the best league in the world, you just never know what's going to happen. As long as Everton don't finish above us and get 0 points against us, I wish them the very best of luck this season.

15.) 26 Sep 2020 19:07:35
Win away v Spurs. Great result! End of.

16.) 26 Sep 2020 19:20:23
Nah, spurs are shattered since losing the European Cup final. It's a tough game, you're right Worcester. Sorry. When I meant good though I meant elite. Us or City, possibly arsenal or Chelsea. I'm not bitter in the least, bitter about what? . I don't feel threatened at all by Everton, no offence. I just don't think they'll be there come xmas. There are tonnes of examples of teams getting good starts and then really struggling.

I think you're probably safe from relegation tho. But teams who rely on one player are suspect.

17.) 26 Sep 2020 19:32:00
Dorchester- bear in mind these haters are probably the ones that cast same doubt over liverpool on a similar run and probably still hate on FSG every year even when the team is lifting trophies.

18.) 26 Sep 2020 19:46:57
In fairness they're looking good, all working hard for each other, fair play to them. Deserved the win today, I'm not from Liverpool but love the idea of both teams competing at the top.

19.) 26 Sep 2020 19:54:37
I was only messing. I really like carlo. Respect to Everton and their start. Is there a cup for winning 3 games in a row? 😂 sorry I just can't help it.

20.) 26 Sep 2020 20:07:34
WorcesterEFC, I m not going to rain on your parade, bro. Lap it up, man. Ain't trying to hear the "wait till you play someone really good". Sorry, People were and STILL are tipping Spurs to make top 4 and Everton went there and bossed them of their own patch. So are Spurs suddenly nobody cos Everton beat them? Not having that, sorry.

Yeah, they may have gotten a pen that they should not have gotten today BUT hey, they deserve the luck cos they actually play nice football. They will have their tough times/ games and we will see what they are made of BUT till then, Enjoy it, man. Go crazy and back your side. You could have something going there, bro. Peace and Love.

21.) 26 Sep 2020 20:49:43
Those of us that go the games and have to listen to the Murderers chants that come with the Everton away support. I don’t want them to be anywhere near us.

They played a terrible spurs side, West Brom were very much in the game, more than equal to Everton, until they went down to 10 men and today, won the game through a terrible penalty decision - pretty much echoed by the commentary team on radio 5 live. Palace more than deserved a draw.

What’s with all this Everton “ loving crap “ . Back in the 80’s Merseyside was one. Not anymore, due to their toxic support .

Go to Everton away and one will soon understand.

22.) 26 Sep 2020 21:01:31
We get it Drogie, you go the game mate well done 🙄👋.

Plenty of others on here also go the game but we can comprehend that not all Everton supporters are like that and don't allow it to cloud our judgement when judging a football team.

Let's not pretend like our 💩 doesn't stink ay?

23.) 26 Sep 2020 21:17:49
Drogie, you can feel the way you feel and that is fine. That does NOT remove from the fact that Everton have maximum points from 3 games and have beaten the teams on their schedule so far. They have pretty decent team and that midfield is damn good.

Ij ust don't believe in raining on other people's parades and start adding caveats to what teams achieve cos I hated it when triggered/ bitter rival fans started adding caveats to how we completely dominated the league last season. Everton will play better teams than them and then, we shall see what they are made of BUT till then, Big up's to Everton right now.

24.) 26 Sep 2020 21:18:21
Well said drogue. Absolutely bang on. The surprise isn't that Everton have bedn good. It's that they haven't been absolutely awful.

25.) 26 Sep 2020 21:33:48
Worcester mate it’s not like you’ve not spend money the last few seasons so it’s expected but the league will take its toll on you! For the record your spurs match was dire they are a broken team u got lucky today but FairPlay u are where u are 👍🏼.

26.) 26 Sep 2020 23:20:16
What’s all this nonsense 🙄👏 UBR? If you went to Everton away you wouldn’t be trying to be so clever, you clearly give no idea whatsoever. The Derby is as toxic as united away, maybe we should be getting all loved up along the east lancs too?

My observation on Everton’s performances stands, or am I not entitled to an opinion? Clearly going the games Clouds my judgment right?

27.) 26 Sep 2020 23:20:50
Well said Robbie.

28.) 26 Sep 2020 23:42:23
Going games doesn't make your point anymore valid, you don't need to state it is all 🤷‍♂️.

I'm aware of the atmosphere mate 😂.

I just don't paint a whole fan base with a label, I know plenty of evertonians who are great people who don't get involved in that nonsense.

A rivalry is cool, i want to finish ahead of them, i want to beat them in derbies. But not giving credit when it's due makes you appear some what bitter.

29.) 27 Sep 2020 07:18:09
I didn’t say it did UBR 🤷.
I know plenty of Evertonians too, good friend of mine has season tickets in the upper bullens, have sat with him, in their end when his son can’t go to the Derbie’s.

It’s not about the atmosphere UBR, Millwall away is hostile but it’s not toxic.

And as for your bitter comment and not giving them praise 😂😂😂 why should I? 🤷🏻‍♂️

The iriony at times, is that everyone slags off United on here but if you pop over to their page, they have some excellent posters that give a good balanced view of how well we’ve done, unlike the Everton page. So when you get then popping over to our page after beating the likes of West Brom, who were down to 10 men, sorry pal, they ain’t getting my vote 🤷🏻‍♂️ Back in the mid 80’s, different story, good set of fans with a brilliant team.

30.) 27 Sep 2020 07:19:20
Just having edd 25 on here shows there are good Everton fans. All clubs have idiot supporters. Look at the actions of some of our fans over the years.

31.) 27 Sep 2020 07:31:05
Ed25 is brilliant ( as are all the Ed’s) and he knows how well respected he is on here.

But I’ll tell you this, you won’t catch him at a Derby anytime soon due to how the rivalry has deteriorated. And that’s coming from 25 himself. We’ve had the discussion Ok numerous occasions.



21 Sep 2020 01:19:56
How do clubs solve the issues around getting the players not required out? A number of Clubs, ourselves included, seem to have few problems needing solving. Challenging few weeks until the window closes. Everton and Chelsea seem to have done some great business but surely a few players might have to be moved on. Man U seem to have the same 'deadwood' listed for years. We may see a few loans if we can't sell now with the hope to regain earnings next year.

On the transfer front a Cb would be nice, but if not so be it. Who will do the most business before the window closes? In the PL the Manchester clubs both look like they'll spend. I think united will break the bank to avoid a repeat of the start of Las year.


{Ed0666's Note - I agree mate I expect both Manchester sides to spend spend spend.

1.) 21 Sep 2020 07:05:05
Hopefully another 85 million on resigning Maguire.

2.) 21 Sep 2020 07:47:39
Funny. Red Nev was saying how United need a dominant centre half. If you spend £85m on one who's not, then what did they buy and who bought them cause I have a bag of magic beans to sell .? If Chelsea thought the overall package for Sancho was too much its surpring they are wasting their time. He'll sign now for another Premier League record.

City to be fair are much better run and will buy better players although peps obsession with fullbacks who want to be midfielders will surely mean some more millions wasted.

3.) 21 Sep 2020 08:35:18
Let's be honest even after the devils 11 wasted 85 million pounds on someone who should be on Blackpool pleasure beach they still need a centre half if his case comes to court again in Greece they're jail team will be easy to beat don't we think?

4.) 21 Sep 2020 08:48:06
Spot on, BenRichards. They have spent about 160m on CB's in the past 4 years in Bailly, Lindeloff and the dreadful Harry Macguire and they STILL need a dominant CB? And they wonder why they are as deep in the toilet as they are with such bad decision making up and down the club.

As for City, they will always be dreadful defensively even after spending almost 400m on FB's, CB's and GK's. This is due to the way they play and how many gaps they open up as soon as they lose possession. I am not sure Pep is even bothered about coaching that side of the game, to be honest.




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23 Jun 2022 10:40:37
If you ask for someone's thoughts and opinions and they provide a detailed analysis of a group of highly thought of youngsters . and then question why x, y or z is not on the list then what was the point? Agree with Ed002 here. of course there are lots of kids not mentioned who have outstanding potential. but that doesn't take away from the original list or opinion.
It perhaps would have been better to thank the Ed and suggest a player that you have seen/ heard of that is also potentially a future star!




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04 Nov 2021 18:06:50
That deserves a standing ovation for detail alone. thanks Ed002.




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22 Sep 2021 17:44:33
Tyler came on at 45 minutes so not exactly a cameo. arguably best player on pitch for 45!




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14 Aug 2021 20:03:59
Become Dortmund? Nonsense, we need to bring through youth, where hopefully the best rise to be star performers but align that with a transfer strategy that attracts the best player we possibly can. We have signed and sold players for vast sums - but generally with the purpose of building the best possible squad we can to compete. This should continue with an emphasis of sustainability- hence certain sales will always be necessary as will selling those that won't make it and freeing up opportunitiesfor others. The aim is to get the best out of those top players whilst selling and replacing as those players start to dip.




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05 Jul 2021 23:16:19
I don't see klopp looking backwards with Ings.





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24 Jun 2022 11:58:19
MK, There is a balance. tours to Asia, USA etc help in the growth of the club and ultimately revenue, profit and reinvestment. without these tours our global supporters become marginalised and separated from the club. It is a financial decision sure but with C.V. there has been a lot less travelling to these places. For many supporters there it is the only chance to see these players live.

As for International games, which klopp has moaned about. Check the numbers, I think that has already increased by 5 or 6 games a season with the Nations League, and now with expanded world cups, proposed 2 year cycles etc I don't really believe a tour pre season if a week or two compares to an additional 6+ International games a season.

As with most things klopp is being protective of his players and club. It is for infantino etc Al to argue the other way.




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23 Jun 2022 13:44:19
Bobby F to have a rennaisance and new contract, possibly see the 4231 formation a bit more, especially at home and he could be a key part of that. and despite a lack of goals at home, his record away is good.

Elliott hopefully to catch up on th3 lost year.




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22 Jun 2022 08:11:10
So its jota's turn to get **** . its like the blame a player bandwagon has to roll on! personal opinions and all that but at least he knows where the net is. A reminder. the hardest thing in football is to score goals. He covers all 3 forward positions, whilst his build up play can be hit n miss he has ability and his direct running causes problems for teams. A good squad option.

As for minamino, greatly underused. definitely a trick missed by klopp to see how he could start at 9 with our more regular starters like mane, salah alongside him. Anyway, good luck to him. love Monaco the place.




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22 Jun 2022 08:11:10
So its jota's turn to get **** . its like the blame a player bandwagon has to roll on! personal opinions and all that but at least he knows where the net is. A reminder. the hardest thing in football is to score goals. He covers all 3 forward positions, whilst his build up play can be hit n miss he has ability and his direct running causes problems for teams. A good squad option.

As for minamino, greatly underused. definitely a trick missed by klopp to see how he could start at 9 with our more regular starters like mane, salah alongside him. Anyway, good luck to him. love Monaco the place.




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18 Jun 2022 08:52:07
100% agree Ed001, the thing is was it even necessary? Keep your mouth shut for the champions league, especially when he dismissed Mo's revenge mission comments.
I don't think we were ever going to stand in his way as the finances make sense from our view and it was inevitable we had a refresh up front over recent seasons.
Could have all ended better however for once I don't know much else we could have done apart from renew earlier, which clearly wasn't in the plans.