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07 Jun 2020 06:22:37
Hey reds and EDs, my first time visiting the site in quiet a bit as the frustration and uncertainty regarding the future return of sport over the couple of months saw me take a step back from the football world. Was great reading through some of your posts and Ed02 with some superb answers too, glad too it's business as usual on here despite the frustrations we've felt.

Just 1 question ed regarding possibility of Rashica, if werder Bremen get relegated which looks likely and Rashica then clearly on the move what kind of price would you estimate they might be forced to settle for?

{Ed002's Note - Milot Rashica (LW/RW) another possible Jadon Sancho replacement or indeed a Leroy Sane option and there is interest from Borussia Dortmund, RBL and Bayern Munich. Werder Bremen don't want to sell (but could be relegated). Rashica plays predominently on the left, like several of the many Sancho replacements, but is seen as versatile. Dortmund are looking at a number of possible Sancho replacements that they have identified and others who also play predominently on the left. I am not aware of any approach from Liverpool to Werder Bremen nor any declaration of interest from his agent or lawyer but it would be interesting if their were - he would certainly provide good cover for Mane. German sides can buy him for around €35M.}


1.) 07 Jun 2020 09:21:20
Thanks for the excellent reply, that's an interesting price if any team decides to offer it as he could very well become a player worth much more than that. I'd like to see any potential income on possible shaqiri sale put into signing him as we could benefit from a strong left sided attacker which shaq wasn't and Origi not natural wide man. With Rashica and minamino we'd have 2 players in early to mid 20s who are natural to playing on each wing respectively and would offer more balance to our style when needing to come in to our frontline. I'm just not confident we will be spending that amount unless we make some good sales.


 

 

03 Aug 2019 05:56:48
Any news on where Kent is most likely to move? Any advanced talks taking place?


1.) 03 Aug 2019 18:22:30
Leeds?


2.) 03 Aug 2019 20:03:27
Would be a good signing for them.


3.) 04 Aug 2019 11:56:30
I can’t see a move to be honest Har. From what I can tell it’s fairly stuck where it is. If there was a move away that would leave London and Surrey with a coastline which would be fun but I think East Sussex would be a bit exposed so it’s a non starter. There could be a loan to France but it take a while to get there.


4.) 03 Aug 2019 14:16:42
Last i heard was no club could afford him (they don't think he is worth it) and only want loan deals. Klopp Said no loans but when no bids come in we'll let him go on loan with an option/ obligation to buy or something.


5.) 04 Aug 2019 20:37:18
Not even close to an accurate prediction. In your defence Lerchy that’s how the vast majority of confident calls go on this site.


6.) 04 Aug 2019 22:41:05
The PFA Scotland Young Player of the Year? No interest!? Shockin.
He'll prob be sold for 6mil on Wednesday, no biggy. I'm actually way more curious to see if there'll be any late surprise incomings. I expect nothing, but they've surprised us before.


 

 

04 Jul 2019 11:17:19
Ed a quick question if you have any info.

I remember laxalt being linked in the past but I'm sure you mentioned us giving up on any interest. With Milan now poised to sign Theo Hernandez would they possibly look to offer laxalt around at a decent price? Would it be a possibility we may look again at him if readily available or is it non runner?

{Ed002's Note - It is a good question. Laxalt would be happy to stay at Milan and it is Ricardo Rodriguez who was blocking his place in the first team for much of last season who is being offered around. However, with Marco Giampaolo as the new coach and Theo Hernandez joining it will still limit opportunities - although with serious financial issues they will be thinking about keeping him to cover the LB, LM and LW positions - which he is capable of doing. Interest remains from Atalanta and Newcastle enquired - seeing him as a left sided option to Kenedy. For me he would be ideal cover for LB, LM and LW at Liverpool but there has seemingly been no recent interest from the club although he is one of those players - like Valentino Lazaroon the right, who is comfortable in several positions.}


1.) 04 Jul 2019 12:16:41
Thanks for that answer, very insightful overview in fairness. It's his versatility indeed is what would have made him a sensible option too I think. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


 

 

 

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26 Jun 2020 02:20:24
Just a quick question if you have any insight into jan vertonghen next club. He's due to leave on a free transfer this summer and I think that if lovren was needing to be replaced it would be good business to offer vertonghen a 2 year or so contract as this would let the younger prospects time to grow until possibly good enough to step up. Even though he's 33 he could offer valuable experience when needed and as a left footed left sided CB who has played previously in LB he would be good option to fill in for VVD or robbo as he's excellent on the ball in how we want our defence to play forward passes and his experience of the PL would be handy to replace Lovren. For a free transfer on a short term solution with similar wages to lovren I think it be great business to acquire a fee for lovren and replace his squad role with a free signing it would be low risk. Any idea if Liverpool have shown any interest?

{Ed0666's Note - I’m not sure replacing a 30 year old injury prone defender with a 33 year old injury prone defender is good business mate. Furthermore although he would be a free transfer his signing on fee and wages would make the package gargantuan.
We have a lot of higher earners at the club that aren’t worthy of those wages and don’t play much at all such as Lalana & Shaquiri. So the last thing we want is an old player on high wages. It’s not the FSG way. I’d be gobsmacked if this transfer happened.


1.) 26 Jun 2020 11:35:38
Vertonghen has the right skill set, but it's clearly the wrong place and the wrong time. Maybe 5 years ago.


2.) 27 Jun 2020 05:25:29
Yeah perhaps ye're right in those points made to be fair, . I see him as an upgrade to lovren overall and just a short term option if we didn't see value in this current market for buying a defender at the right price. But I understand that my view may not actually be a wise one haha.

{Ed0666's Note - It’s a bitter pill to swallow but we have owners that won’t spend for the sake of it. They will penny pinch were they can (ticket price hikes and furlough scheme being prime examples).

Don’t get me wrong I’m not denigrating FSG they have been better owners than I expected but COVID has curtailed a lot of clubs summer spending and we are no exception.

If we were gonna go for an experienced older premiership defender I would plum for Mee at Burnley.

I’m not expecting much transfer activity to be honest in terms of purchases. I think we’ll be going down the loan route until the financial situation sorts itself out.


 

 

14 Jun 2020 05:04:54
Counting down the days now to seeing us back on the field. Just a little question regarding the topic of many concerned about the closed doors lack of atmosphere. I've actually been enjoying it to quiet an extent, paying far more attention to the players communicating with each other and more of a glimpse into their ways of reading the game. Even hearing the thump of the boot hitting the ball with every single pass and then the noise of the ball being controlled cleanly is satisfying to me, it just seems to make me feel like away from all the money, marketing, media, and celebrity status of the football world at this level I'm getting a real kick out of soaking in the simple sounds and sights that you'd find at any amatuer sunday league game. Watching the top professional footballers just playing a game of football in its most natural form is something I'm enjoying far more than I expected. I certainly won't have any intention of listening to the articial crowd atmosphere as the only benefit from any experience of atmosphere and emotion is the fact that it's real and genuine. Without that then to me it's just annoying background noise. Interesting to hear if anyone is in the same boat as me or if you're the opposite and really struggling to watch the games currently in silence.


1.) 14 Jun 2020 10:55:04
Har for me fans make football and they always will and always have. Players, managers and owners will come and go but fans are there for life. Saying that though I can go and watch my local team on a Sunday play in front of 5 people and I would still enjoy the game (even though it’s probably at the standard of Everton) . My opinion is The atmosphere inside the stadium is key for the players and more importantly the fans inside the stadium who are enjoying and living that experience. I’ve never watched a good game on the tv and thought I didn’t enjoy that because the crowd could have been louder. I’d love fans to be back in stadiums but until that happens I going to enjoy every minute of watching us play behind closed doors. Actually I’m going to enjoy every minute of watching every game behind closed doors. I feel like a kid at Christmas right now.


2.) 14 Jun 2020 11:14:59
I'm with u mate, all iv been thinking this whole time regarding "the fans"is I don't really care just give us the trophy by hook or by crook hahaha!


3.) 14 Jun 2020 12:01:51
I said at the very start of all of this that one of the things that I hoped would happen is that clubs realise the importance of the fans to their product. Rather than simply customers (although there are benefits I believe to that), the passion of genuine fans and full stadiums are so integral to everything that makes football a billion dollar industry. They really do need to remember this and perhaps reflect and review ticket prices to make the game more accessible to more people.


4.) 14 Jun 2020 14:38:09
Oh yes I completely agree with the importance of a full stadium. I was referring more to my view that a fake simulated version of fan noises for the television viewer would be more of an irritation for me as opposed to most others who seem to be glad to have that option instead of silence.

{Ed002's Note - Well turn the sound down.}


5.) 14 Jun 2020 17:58:04
I guess it all depends on the match you watch. I watched Mallorca v Barcelona last night and they had the fake crownd noise and found it far better than the previous games I had watched without any noise. I also decided to watch it with Spanish commentary just made the game sound more exciting. I'm sure it will be different for Prem games where you will know the chants etc.


6.) 14 Jun 2020 19:51:44
so what your saying is man City and arsenal fans should welcome fake crown noise lol!


 

 

16 Mar 2020 05:12:19
I think we can all agree the extremity of the world's situation right now is leaving all of us uneasy as we try to understand what might lie ahead.

In terms of football we've disected every possible solution and debated the most likely to happen which is fair enough but it's a topic that we need to wait a bit before we can post realistic opinions. I think we need to forget guessing timelines etc as we are all clueless to how this will play out and length of time needed. We can't know the best solution until we get more clarity on the length of time football is postponed.

I won't speculate as I'm clueless to the future but no matter how the outcome plays out im heartbroken as a Liverpool fan. Whether we get handed the title, wether the season is deemed good or wether we get time to play out the fixtures it's going to leave me feeling a bit flat.

I've spent so so long anticipating and imagining that moment when every fan in anfield stands and sings YNWA like it's never been heard before. Coming to terms with the idea that we're not going to have that glorious moment of joy that we've craved for decades has me feeling a lack of real care towards how the season will unfold., the thought of clinching it behind closed doors is horrible yet it's likely the best we can hope for. Take care of each other folks and be patient until we figure out where and when football can go from here.


1.) 16 Mar 2020 11:42:44
OP, fully agree with you on all you have said. Tonnes of fans all over the world will be gutted with not winning the PL at Anfield in front of the Liverpool fans and global fans all over BUT this is what it is from now so on a personal note, I'm over it to some extent as there are mre important things in life going on right now.

Now what keeps me happy and going on this topic is the fact that our drought is OVER. Done! Finito! NOBODY can ever take that away from us. We completely smashed the league and made other clubs look like mugs including City, the best team the "world has ever seen", lol.

We nay not have the celebration we all wanted and at the time we wanted it BUT we can always make do with a bad situation by STILL creating a great atmosphere for the Open Top Bus celebrations and really smash it there once again. Peace, Love and Stay Safe!


 

 

27 Feb 2020 18:31:31
I'm sorry to ask a timo Werner related question as I'm sure ye Eds are sick of constant questions about him at this stage.

My question though is do ye feel that RBL might currently be eager to broker a deal with us and would prefer Werner to transfer to Liverpool as opposed to possible switch to bayern or other direct rivals?
Would you see this as an advantage for us if we were to push ahead with serious intentions?

{Ed001's Note - that is certainly an angle that could work for them, yes. It really depends on the other options for him. If it is PSG or Juventus, for example, we would have no advantage over them on that basis.}


1.) 27 Feb 2020 20:17:20
Yeah that's true, I always thought of bayern as the only real side he would prefer over us and it would be a shootout between us and them but I guess every top side in Europe will be looking at him now though many of which will offer him the main man role up front.


 

 

04 Feb 2020 22:42:05
Absolute fantastic result to get from a team with average age of 19 years 108 days to go out infront of 50000 fans under the lights at anfield and play with maturity and get us into the next round. The usual bright sparks Elliot and Jones again looked confident on the ball but for me the most pleasing thing was to see our defence looking strong.

Previously against villa and arsenal we conceded 5 goals and looked vulnerable with every attack faced. Tonight van den berg and Hoever looked so much more composed and controlled while neco Williams already looks more than capable of backing up Trent, . We controlled 90% of the game and a clean sheet to cap what was an extraordinary night for these boys to experience in their early careers and we will hopefully see them build on these kind of moments. I'm over the moon.


1.) 04 Feb 2020 23:02:17
Har_red92 to be fair, Arsenal had a lot more firepower than Shewsbury did so it is only normal we concede more chances to them and also, the team we put out vs Arsenal lacked cohesion. This one did not hence with Critchley on the bench, the boys knew their jobs inside out. This supports Klopp's point that he did not need to be on the bench cos well, he does not coach the U23's so cannot offer that much input.

I am chuffed for the lads who gave it a right go and MAD props to the thousands of fans who turned up to roar them to victory. I guess the haters and trolls are going to have to put their knives away cos I know they already had them at the ready had the boys lost today. LFC Kids 1 Shewsbury 0. Read it and weep, Losers!


2.) 04 Feb 2020 23:11:21
I thought all the lads put in a great shift. Now, if this isn't the "magic of the FA Cup" then I have no idea what that statement means. I also think it was great that our vice-captain (Millie) attended and went into the changing room to talk to the lads. great stuff.


3.) 04 Feb 2020 23:21:59
Well chuffed for them. A lot of pressure and they handled it well. Disrespectful for shrewsbury to start their 2nd choice forward. Come on guys, we're Liverpool.


4.) 04 Feb 2020 23:31:53
Well done young reds! ❤⚽️.


5.) 05 Feb 2020 04:40:03
I agree mate

Standouts were Jones and Elliot upfront, and Chirivella was exceptional at controlling the middle of the park, but most pleasing of all was the back 4. Sepp has looked lost in previous games but took a huge step forward tonight, while Hoever looked fantastically composed. For those two to deal with the physicality and experience of Shrewsbury was a credit with not a single shot on target. The fullbacks were also too notch, adventurous going forward but excellent in defence.

What a fantastic game, the youngsters fully deserved the win after completely dominating possession, and with a bit more experience upfront, 3 nil would not have been an unfair result.


6.) 05 Feb 2020 10:49:55
The win last night has rather pulled the rug from under the feet of those critical of Klopp.
But more than that, a vindication of Klopp’s stand point was Sam Rickett’s admission that it was (Shrewsbury’s) “game 39 for us and it caught up with us”.
If that isn’t an advert for a rest period I don’t know what is.


7.) 05 Feb 2020 12:40:24
Totally agree, Juicer. Last night was Liverpool's 41st competitive game of the season so far, starting with the Community Shield against City on 4th August. With potentially another 20+ games to go.


 

 

 

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05 Jul 2020 12:42:23
I don't see his age as being a huge issue as many making out. He'll still be 29 come end of next season. Matip, VVD, firmino, mane, Salah are all less than a year younger. I wouldn't expect them to only have a season or 2 left in them. Henderson and gini and Milner all having huge success later in their age than tiago is currently. If it was 60mil fee or something I'd be hesitant but 30 mil for a top proven versatile midfielder with plenty left to offer could be a great deal.


 

 

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05 Jul 2020 12:31:33
I'm not worried at all about minamino being a flop, I sense he has the tools perfectly suited to follow the same route as the others that klopp avoided using until ready. I can fully trust that minamino will turn into another great addition as the people responsible for bringing him know exactly what he can bring to fit this team. He certainly seems like he's got a great attitude so that only adds to the potential level he can hit.


 

 

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05 Jul 2020 11:48:03
I do understand your frustrations after 2 years but my reason is simply that I believe he can hit those high levels if he can get properly fit which I think is very possible now with him being able to manage his training and preparation with no distractions ahead of starting next season. If he fails to shrug off the injury issues for another year then absolutely I'd want him replaced.


 

 

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04 Jul 2020 23:56:03
ArAy1969 I think many of us are only being patient with him as it's been injury setbacks that have been the immediate reason he's only been able to show "flashes of brilliance". If he had been fit and available consistently while not offering much than we all would likely be agreeing that his time is up. I would like to see fans back him and then judge his game when he gets the chance to actually play and settle in which could be very likely with a proper pre season under his belt. That instant loss of trust you have toward him would be similar to how OX was viewed in his arsenal days, Gomez for us was never rated whenever injured, arjen robben would be diminished if going period with injury setbacks like van persie also. Some players have enough proven talent that you need to wait until they play fit and ready to see if they are actually a flop before they get put in that bracket imo.


 

 

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04 Jul 2020 23:38:10
Nice to see posts with strong disagreement being received with respect and manners, as often we can forget to argue our points without a narrow minded approach myself very much included. Fair play guys, refreshing to read.


 

 

 

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05 Jul 2020 15:29:56
His injury record has hardly been that poor lately though really. He has only been on the sidelines this season after the lockdown, back to back cruciate injuries made him miss a good chunk about 5 years ago but since then he doesn't miss large number of games. Maybe 5 or 6 league games, no different to what Henderson or fabinho miss, . He's only just out of 28 years of age he's far from finished. Kante, de bruyne, jorginho, moutinho, kroos, modric, witsel, casemeiro, pjanic, verrati, rakitic, like, brozovic are all players in similar CM roles ranging from 28 yrs to early mid 30s and we don't look at most of those players as the finished article and many of those would be snapped up for 30mil without a question. Thiago has many years still on some of those players so very likely can be crucial for a team for a few seasons yet. The fact he's played over 350 games for Barca, bayern and Spain over 10 years from 18 to 28 with a reputation forged at bayern as one of the finest midfielder players around the last 5 years means he can't be wrote off as bad business for the fee touted. We wouldn't be paying him 250k and he'd likely be earning 180k to 200 like our other few top payed talents. Lallana and clyne off the books equates that.


 

 

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05 Jul 2020 15:02:04
I love Firmino and think he often gets taken for granted. One thing I will note is our different approach we attack with now compared to previously makes firmino get less chances to be involved on the ball, 2 years ago our quick counter breaks and heavy pressing would see bobby have a more obvious role in creating attacks. Now that we often play with more patience and control against deeper defences we utilise our width and full backs more and even though firmino is still vital with his movement out of possession he gets less opportunity to be the danger man needed to put the finishing touches to chances.

In my view it's the altering tactical approach that can give the impression that he's not as important as he was when we played a different style and it's not at all the notion that his performance level has regressed. Even a traditional prolific no.9 would find it hard to be scoring freely unless we adjusted our system to use him and that likely comes at the expense of stifling salah and mane to an extent.


 

 

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05 Jul 2020 12:03:31
6 times im really not sure you're talking about the same player? Games pass him by? He is the player who usually gets the most touches of the ball every game, he records higher numbers than any midfielder in Germany for passes forward into final 3rd and for carrying the ball forward more often than other CMs. Also is highly rated for his ability to win back possession so I can't grasp how you see his weaknesses when those are in reality his stronger attributes.


 

 

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05 Jul 2020 02:15:52
Klavan, Milner, toure were all similar to caulker and Lambert like you mention. I know they cost little to nothing and were coming in to weaker sides back then but the money spent on Allison, VVD, AOC as examples is not with the expectation that we will eventually sell on for a profit, sometimes you can be willing to invest in getting a player who gives you quality on the field for a period of years at his peak and will never recoup that investment when his best years are passed. So it's not simply nonesense to consider that 30mil for a quality midfielder who may add 2 or 3 years at least of top level performances would be anything other than good business.


 

 

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05 Jul 2020 01:08:06
I don't think every signing should have to have a so called re sale value to be deemed smart signing. For 30 mil in this market if you could get a player to add 2 or 3 seasons of impact then that is good return. We're not realistically going to make money back on VVD but he's been invaluable in terms of what he can bring to us on the pitch in his peak years. Would you not sign Salah, mane, Henderson currently for 30mil if they were available just because of their age? Arsenal spent far more on aubameyang, Barcelona are paying 60mil for pjanic who's older and not even better than thiago. City have had joy after spending big on mahrez, wolves spent 30mil on 29yr old jimenez and moutinho also worth every penny for them. If thiago wasn't into the last year of his contract then he'd never be available for less than 50 or 60 mil when the market sees midfielders like Fred, jorginho, pjanic, sigurdsson moving at those prices while often at late 20s. 30mil today sets the price for many average transfers. If we could get anything above 20 mil for each of grujic, Wilson and shaqiri than why should it be bad to invest slightly more on a proven top class player who can suit or system and play in any of the midfield positions, a Bayern Munich regular for 7 years after playing in a quality Barcelona team at their peak and a Spanish international who's won titles his whole career and just turned 28 to 29 recently. For that price it's not a terrible risk to assume he can't give us value for money with a few years of class in our team. Lallanas 100k+ and clynes wages off the books wouldn't surpass offering him a 170-180k salary for 3 year contract.

I'd wait til next summer to see the situation of adding midfielders to take over when we might know more of the timeline in which hendo, gini, and obviously Milner will have to be upgraded. Keita, OX and possibly Curtis Jones may become more influential crucial players in that time and a younger promising player I think can wait just now.

The chance to bring in a proven top class midfielder in the prime years for his type of player while we're currently strong and looking to keep up this high level can't be a bad idea. Fergie and other league winning managers would use these signings at times when they needed a little strengthening to stay at the best level. I'd like to think our recruiters are not so robotic to not consider the possibilities of this type of deal maybe being positive.