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22 Jun 2013 11:38:16
Hi Eds and Red. Is it fair to suggest that the transfer budget has been used on these first four signings and that future player purchases will be dependent on player sales? If so, do you believe all monies made from sales would be made available for purchases? Thanks {Ed002's Note - I don't want to get in to the finances as it causes confusion as folks seem to struggle with anything other than the fee itself. What is paid would typically include:

(a) Transfer fee - the big number including any levy applied by the local FA.
(b) Tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(c) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents.
(d) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(e) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches.
(f) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(g) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered)
(h) Variables and tax on variables which may or may not be reclaimable) – these would typically include legal fees, moving/relocation costs, paying up insurance costs on the player, football association fees, signing on fee etc.. This was off the top of my head and I may well have forgotten something. The big numbers are the transfer fee, agent fees (as an example, Liverpool have spent £25M plus VAT on agent fees over the past three years) and possibly other intermediary fees (what do you mean you have a super agent?}


1.) Super Agent. now that's a cool job!

2.) God agents are money-grabbing *****

3.) Thanks for this insight to how it works and costs involved Ed0002 eye opener.

4.) Id love to go for a drink with you ed002 your a very knowledgeable person indeed




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10 May 2019 21:47:09
Ed002, can you see the ban for Raola having an impact on some of his clients ambitions this summer? Would they seek a new agent and would doing so make them more attractive prospects to certain clubs? Thanks.


{Ed002's Note - No, why would the seek new agents?}

1.) 11 May 2019 16:06:19
I wasn't sure if the ban would hamper any moves planned for his clients. In which case, if it did and they were set on moves this summer, would they seek a new agent?

However, you know the industry so I wouldn't question your reply. Thanks bud. Have a great weekend.

{Ed002's Note - None of them have a need for a new agent.}



08 May 2019 22:13:43
Ajax looked shot and Spurs demonstrated the tenacity and power of the English game, just as we did last night. Fair play to them, at half time they didn't have a chance.
Let's hope the fact that we have been there before and have a decent record against Spurs counts for something on June 1st.


1.) 08 May 2019 23:25:47
terrible defending on that last goal. that won't happen to us.

2.) 09 May 2019 08:40:57
Stone, it was terrible defending cos Ajax defenders were spent, physically. They were getting bullied physically, something Ruud Gullit said was their greatest weakness in the Eredivisie and Poch prolly knew that. They could not cope and eventually, they cracked.

3.) 09 May 2019 11:01:37
fair enough redwolf.



06 Jan 2019 19:11:02
Ed002's mate at 'The Firm' reporting significant progress in the signing of Werner. Assume this is BS right?


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any "significant progress".}

1.) 06 Jan 2019 19:28:35
Cheers I thought, 'clickbait'

2.) 06 Jan 2019 20:00:38
Isn’t that who Ed002 calls the fat kid from Bolton?

3.) 06 Jan 2019 20:19:30
Who is The Firm. Not this again with Werner. It has been explained wh has interest in him and the fact we would have to have a change of front line to accommodate him into the team. Not happening.

4.) 06 Jan 2019 20:29:40
I don’t actually want Werner, I think he’s overrated, but I think we need someone of his supposed quality to rotate seemlessly. As mentioned before city have sane mahrez and sterling, only two of whom can play really, and they manage. We need the same quality in depth.

5.) 06 Jan 2019 21:07:38
The firm also confirmed we had signed pulisic, Lemar and Lord know how many others. Utter nonsense.

{Ed002's Note - Someone has said they have now confirmed this as a done deal. Great news for Liverpool fans and with Gaston Ramirez feeding those balls from the wing, how can Liverpool not win the league.}

6.) 06 Jan 2019 21:23:12
The Firm is a page on twitter, who claims to know it all about transfers but knows literally bugger all, just like the many thousands of others on that platform.

{Ed002's Note - you cant say that because they will delete the posts. They also banned#WonderDogSparky.}

7.) 06 Jan 2019 21:24:01
The Firm again? He needs to switch off his computer, leave his bedroom and go outside into the real world.

8.) 06 Jan 2019 21:30:35
I think the firm may be who Ed002 refers to as

"The Fat Kid From Bolton"

Id take no notice. Its obviously bull!

9.) 06 Jan 2019 21:33:26
I agree Fencey. I think Werner is average at best. I really don't see what the fuss is all about. Reminds me of Theo Walcott as a kid. Head down, sprint, hit it as hard as he can.

{Ed0333's Note - works for Jamie Vardy

10.) 06 Jan 2019 21:35:38
Why would anyone even do that though? Do you get some kind of prize if you get it right?
They just guess on loads of players and when one does happen act like they are the messiah.
No mate. You’re just a saddo who needs to get a life.

11.) 06 Jan 2019 21:55:16
You'd take Vardy then, triple 3? He has one thing Werner doesn't I suppose; passion. Werner plays like he's entitled. Probably because people have blown smoke up his rear end since he was about 19. Similar to Walcott in that respect as well I suppose. Vardy is hard working and plays on the edge which makes him a bit of a nightmare, but I still wouldn't want such a one dimensional player at Liverpool.

12.) 06 Jan 2019 22:13:10
Vardy works well on the counter, plus when he smashes is, he usually hits the target. In fairness to him, hitting a moving ball first time, he’s quite good at it. Vardy wouldn’t work well in our team though, he’d probably get a few goals, but couldn’t cover wide and play in our style, like Someone like Werner could. Again not saying him, but there’s got to be som talented players out there with some guild and tact, as will as some pace, who can play wide or through the middle.

13.) 07 Jan 2019 00:17:16
I disagree, if there's one player id take to rotate for a season or 2 its Vardy, proven prem player.

14.) 07 Jan 2019 00:56:50
We need versatile, flexible forwards who will suit our style of play and can come in for any of the front 3 to compliment the others already there, in my opinion.

Nabil Fekir, I think, is the best option but if not him we need to look at guys like Lorenzo Insigne, Roberto Pereyra or Pablo Sarabia. Forwards with more to their game than chasing passes and shooting a lot. Players who can link up, create, score goals, play wide, play narrow, find space between the lines etc.

Random names, I know, but we have our star striker in Mo Salah. Same way City have Aguero, Spurs have Kane, Arsenal have Aubameyang etc. Those players will all play every game when fully fit and in form so you have to sign players who can play with them. I don't see Werner playing alongside Salah so I simply don't see the point in signing a far inferior back up option to make 5-10 starts a season. It didn't work with Origi or Solanke. Werner will be no different.

15.) 07 Jan 2019 07:26:30
A new forward doesn’t have to be all-singing, all-dancing as long as they’re quick and very good at their job.
Look at Sane at City, he frightens me to death every time he gets the ball.
Lightening fast, direct and can impact a game.
I like Vardy very much. Imagine a player like him with Salah, leave them up top - one ball out of defence and you’re in business.
Interchangeable with Salah too, give him a rest.
Pace has won the last few Premierships, it’s now an essential imho.

16.) 07 Jan 2019 08:27:21
Vardy is one of them for me, I never understood the hype personally. I'd much prefer keep Sturridge or Origi ahead of Vardy.

Clubs can have mediocre players, we all have them but we're far too big for the likes of Vardy now imo, he might of fit in a few years ago but now? not for me. We should be aiming higher or at least looking at somebody who would suit our style of play a bit better.

17.) 07 Jan 2019 09:26:45
Considering our style of play, I will take Vardy over Sturridge everyday. Not that I want Vardy in, but he has been scoring 15-20 goals per season for the past couple of years, while Sturridge has been keeping the physios company.

18.) 07 Jan 2019 09:33:19
Spot on, MK on Werner. He is quite poor and tho has pace, he is a headless chicken who has a poor final touch and doesn't score as many goals as people think he does. I watched him a lot last season (as I was keeping tabs on Keita) and he was so bad, he was benched for the younger and more talented Frenchman George-Kevin Augustin. Nuff said, right there.

As per Vardy, I don't want him either. he is quite limited in his repertoire and the good thing about our front three is that they can do multiple things and play anywhere in the front line, something Vardy simply cannot do. We need a forward who a) Will be happy to play his role from the bench and b) who is versatile. Werner or Vardy do not tick these boxes.

19.) 07 Jan 2019 09:37:06
You think Vardy would have 4 goals in 273 minutes like Sturridge?

20.) 07 Jan 2019 11:12:24
Its not going to happen but someone I like the look of as an alternative to Werner would be Luka Jovic.
He is doing great so far this season, joint top scorer currently in Bundesliga with 12 in 15 games for Frankfurt and also chipping in with 5 in 6 games in Europa League as Frankfurt topped their group. He can play through the middle or on the left or right and just turned 21 in December.
Its not likely there is any chance for clubs to get him as he has 6 months left on a 2 year loan from Benfica and Frankfurt seem to have some option to buy him at the end.
However, he does look exciting despite it being early days for him.

21.) 07 Jan 2019 12:11:42
MK, I think Vardy won't get injured every 3 days, or duck out of challenges.
I am not saying I want Vardy, but he's a way better option than Sturridge.
And how is Sturridge's 4 goals in 273 minutes a factor? That's an irrelevant stat. He comes in mainly as a sub to take advantage of a tired backline.
Vardy's goal/ minute is 181/ minute, Firmino's is 201, Arnautovic's is 168. I take it that they're both better than Bobby?

22.) 07 Jan 2019 13:08:33
Sturridge has been fit for about 18 months. He also doesn't duck out of challenges. That is media BS. He has tracked back into right back before and won possession. He gets the same press as Ozil because of his body language. Sure he doesn't fly in out of control like Vardy does (hence why he gets red carded from time to time) but he works smart instead of behaving like a headless chicken with roid-rage.

I don't know where 273 came from to be honest. I wrote 506 but it must've autocorrected to a number I've put in my calculator recently. 4 goals and 1 assist in 506 minutes is a very good return considering he hasn't had a run of starts to gather momentum or form. Vardy is not at his level. He has very limited quality in possession and needs constant minutes to stay sharp.

It's also no coincidence that most of Vardy's goals come against the big 6 teams. That is because he is only effective when playing against a high line. Hardly any teams play a high line against us though. Probably only Man City, Arsenal and occasionally Tottenham.

Additionally, Sturridge is usually brought on late when we are trying to rescue points against teams packed in deep and holding on for dear life. Sturridge has the quality to unlock tight defences or score a wonder goal. Vardy would be useless in such a scenario.

He would be such a lazy and ill-considered buy. He's not got the quality we require. He's very good at what he does, sure, but he's painfully limited. Surely you can see that? Not to mention his terrible lifestyle choices and poor attitide. He'd be an awful signing who'd do nothing but wind up our players who all live professionally to maximise their chances of winning. Virgil, Milner, Robertson and Hendo won't put up with his nonsense, that is for sure.

23.) 07 Jan 2019 14:50:52
Vardy had his chance to go to arsenal but bottled it. This is when they were in the European Cup. tbf, Leicester were too. He would prefer to be a big fish in a small pond.

There is zero point in signing Vardy. He would not work in our team, not a clever enough striker. When you look at our strikers, they are all attacking midfielders really. Okay, firmino is a CF but he likes to come deep too. I can understand werner, but not Vardy.

I tell you a player I like, a signing that really surprised me. Shurrle. I know Fulham have been poor but that lad has a touch of class and I think he could become a striker, like our attacking midfielders/ strikers.



30 May 2018 13:54:01
Reds and Eds - you are allowed one further signing for LFC, so who is it?

Having made improvements defensively over recent months I think it is crucial to keep that going so, for me it has to be a gk. My choice, purely because I think he is the better keeper, is Oblak.


1.) 30 May 2018 13:57:25

2.) 30 May 2018 14:08:43
We need 2 - a GK and a pacy attacker/ wide forward so we don’t have to change our game plan when Mane or Salah are rested/ injured.

Of the two I’d have previously gone for the forward, but I don’t think Karius can start with confidence after the CL final, so I think i would go for the GK if forced to choose. It would also be the position that would improve our first 11 the most, and we could use Wilson to rest our front three until Jan.

Oh and did I say we need another pacy attacker/ wide forward?

3.) 30 May 2018 14:10:06
On the basis that players can register with 3 clubs within a season (not sure what the rule is, someone will put me right! ), I'd love to sign Messi on a free transfer.

Then sell him on to PSG for £400m, and invest that money wisely in people like Fekir, Alisson, Dembele, Alderwereild, etc ;-)

Failing that I'd choose Alisson. Purely as Ed001 has said that he better suits our game than Oblak, who is more used to sitting behind a team than defends first. I'd also like to add to our Brazilian contingent as that will hopefully mean they'll never leave! Samba boys!

4.) 30 May 2018 14:38:22
SGR the perfect pacy wide forward for backup/ rotation imo would be Malcom.
But the question was if you could only have one.
We don't have a really creative midfielder, which we do need to turn some of those draws into wins. That's why I'd actually pick Fekir over Alisson and just go with Karius + Ward between the sticks.

5.) 30 May 2018 14:40:22
Zed, you're definitely smoking something. 😵 . (pass it around 😁)

6.) 30 May 2018 14:47:23
Fekir for me. We can win every game 6-5 for all I care, after all this is hypothetical fantasy land.

7.) 30 May 2018 15:01:46
Leon Bailey
League title 19.

8.) 30 May 2018 15:48:31
Its a bit like the "you have one wish" thing, Ra.

Always, but always, use that one wish to wish for more wishes!

9.) 30 May 2018 16:45:45
lol Harry, only £200 mil more then?

10.) 30 May 2018 17:08:29
I wouldn’t mind that Jurgen to be fair. it’s a close call, let’s hope we get both!

11.) 30 May 2018 18:55:26
Butland or Ali I can't decide both are better than we currently have.



28 May 2018 12:23:46
Ok let's try to get our minds off Saturday.

With teams commonly having do mine in charge of pre match music in the changing room, I was wondering what would be your choice if pre match tunes if you were in charge of the stereo/ I pod/ gramaphone Tec?

Especially interested in Ed002 answer as this could be fascinating. For me, heavy metal football deserves something like Iron Maiden.

Ed025, if you are playing along no Z cars or The Farm please.


{Ed002's Note - I am sure others will have ideas.}

1.) 28 May 2018 12:52:56
Stuff like 'Enter sandman' by Metallica. Imagine that blasting, it'd get everybody hyped up. Also ' Jump around' by House of pain, youtube 'house of pain jump around wisconsin' it had them bouncing. I'd love to see Anfield like that.

2.) 28 May 2018 13:37:29
I'd have Freebird. Play it so that the boys are just leaving the changing room as it gets wild.

3.) 28 May 2018 14:29:02
Liverpool - Welcome to the jungle (Guns n Roses), we’ve got fun and games

Man City - Money Talks (AC/ DC), same football style, different message

Man Utd - get out of your own way (U2), used to be rock and roll royalty but now just a bit boring. title speaks for itself

Chelsea - Plastic Zoo (Ginjack), enough said

Tottenham - Don’t get me wrong (Pretenders), great music but it’s not rock and roll, is it? Band name sums it up really.

Arsenal - I can’t get no satisfaction (Rolling Stones), definitely Rock and Roll but can’t help but think the lead singer has stayed on past his retirement. What started as a rock song is starting to sound like a plea for mercy.

Everton - As you were (Liam Gallagher), not bad, but let’s face it he’s not as good as his brother is he 😉.

4.) 28 May 2018 14:52:55
Rage against the machine, just outclassed interstellar overdrive by about 20 years but very very close.

5.) 28 May 2018 17:16:40
Oasis rock n roll star.

6.) 31 May 2018 15:11:42
lol great list SGRed. I'd go with Metallica's Metal Militia for Liverpool.




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15 May 2019 16:25:20
Ed002, you are such a wind up. Remember we will likely lose Lallana and Sturridge so it's obvious we need cover for them. Mbappe and Werner on the bench seems nailed on right?




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15 May 2019 15:49:59
Ed002, our friend from Bolton is currently peddling the rumour that we have a chance with De Ligt. That, and Barcelona offering Coutinho to LFC.
To his credit, not even he is willing to stake his 'reputation' on Mbappe to LFC.


{Ed002's Note - With Werner and Demirbay and all of the others already agreed I am not sure there is a need for Mbappe.}



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10 May 2019 21:44:42
Wonder if Burnley's Pope would be open to a move as number 2. Guessing it us unlikely if he has England ambitions. Maybe Alex McCarthy with Gunn nailing the number 1 slot at Southampton?




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22 Apr 2019 23:09:42
If Salah wants Real Madrid, I can understand that. But if his wish is to play for Real Madrid, why is Salah's agent trying to garner interest from Juve? Serie A is an uncompetitive league and if Juve is not a club Salah has dreamed of playing for then I can only put it down to money. plain and simple. Unless anyone can suggest another reason why Juve would appeal?




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15 Jan 2019 20:56:25
Gracias billynwa!

My new favourite poster.





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16 May 2019 07:24:54
How about Ed002 sending you a card for your birthday each year. with a witty put down, just for you on your special day?




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15 May 2019 17:57:10
. the Icelandic entry for the Eurovision song contest?




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11 May 2019 16:06:19
I wasn't sure if the ban would hamper any moves planned for his clients. In which case, if it did and they were set on moves this summer, would they seek a new agent?

However, you know the industry so I wouldn't question your reply. Thanks bud. Have a great weekend.


{Ed002's Note - None of them have a need for a new agent.}



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11 May 2019 15:57:40
Hasn't he literally just signed for Wolves?




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18 Apr 2019 17:36:19
Don't understand why Suarez should be respected and Coutinho get boos.

I am not a fan of either for the way they disrespected the club and the fans, but believe we should show class, give them a polite round of applause and then whistle and jeer the whole Barcelona team for the 90 mins.