Liverpool Banter Archive February 01 2018

 

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01 Feb 2018 23:32:50
I have written something which is more like an article. Where do I post it please?

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{Ed033's Note - Post it by clicking on the Create New Post tab at the top of the page and submit it using the posting form please. Ideally put this is an article at the top of the post.

02 Feb 2018 00:56:57
Please tour Kate!


01 Feb 2018 18:51:00
Just want to say good luck to 23Carragold got a few more loanees to keep tabs on now mate.

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01 Feb 2018 19:43:11
Haha thanks squizza, I think I am going to need it!


01 Feb 2018 20:17:54
Fair play to ya mate your playing a stormer as we say in Louth.


02 Feb 2018 01:40:42
Just googled Louth and it turns out it's in Lincolnshire. i always assumed you were Welsh for some reason Barry.

Funnily enough there's two Louths in Ireland. My company once installed a pipeline from Louth to Louth.


02 Feb 2018 08:34:14
What's that stoneage, mate? There is one Louth in Ireland, the village of Louth which is in County Louth, named after an ancient Gaelic god. Would I be correct that you promounce the one in Lincolnshire as 'Louth' as in 'mouth'?


02 Feb 2018 08:37:52
PS: Are you a Dundalk fan, Barry? Or The Drogs?


01 Feb 2018 18:02:13
Strange how we seem to have this week defence and yet we have only lost 3 league games all season, less than any other team other than city! Are we really that bad?

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01 Feb 2018 18:15:31
Goals conceded is a better measure. Here’s the top 6:

City 18
ManU 18
Chelsea 19
Spuds 22
Liverpool 29
Arsenal 34.


01 Feb 2018 18:45:38
Dale the problem is when we concede it’s usual 2 or 3 mate.


01 Feb 2018 18:49:14
In 36 games this season we’ve conceded 2 or more 11 times almost a third of ours games not great .


01 Feb 2018 18:52:36
Thumbs down.

Where would we be if that was 15/ 18 instead of 29.


01 Feb 2018 19:04:45
Goals conceded at home:
Man U - 5
Liverpool - 7
Man City - 9

Yes, we have conceded 22 goals away from home. However we have the second best away record in the league with 24 points from 13 games. Only City with 31 points can better that.

Our problem has been drawing games at home. Despite having the 2nd best defensive record at home, we have just 26 home points due to 5 draws. Spurs and Arsenal have 28, Man U have 31, and Man City have 37.

So it is our home form that is holding us back and yet we've only conceded 7 there. It actually points towards a lack of goals scored at Anfield strangely enough. We're top scorers away from home with 32, but we have just 25 goals at Anfield. Teams like Burnley, Man U and Everton are still turning up and sitting deep to knock draws. We need to find an answer for that. You can blame the defence for conceding in those 1-1 draws to be fair, but for me Klopp needs to be playing 2 strikers at home against these defensive sides. Put Ings or Solanke up top WITH Firmino. You don't need 3 of Can, Henderson, Gini and Milner in those kind of games.

Just my opinion though lads. Too easy to blame the defence alone. There are XI players on the pitch.


01 Feb 2018 19:07:38
Those nos. don't lie, Ron.


01 Feb 2018 19:41:43
It’s the number of draws that make the difference rather than losses. We’d be second if we turned the draws into wins.


01 Feb 2018 19:54:17
Agree entirely with above post from MK. When we know teams are going to sit deep we should put another striker on, get wide and get those crosses in. We’re in the best position we have been for a while though so we shouldn’t complain to much, but it’s always about finding the next level of improvement, not standing still, otherwise we’ll just stagnate and fall away again like we have done several times over the last 25 years.


01 Feb 2018 21:13:05
Whatever the impact on results, goals conceded is the most accurate reflection of a team’s defence.
Out of the top 6, ours is currently rated 5th.

Some of that is down to having one of the poorest goalkeepers and part of it is down fo the midfield and fullbacks leaving our defence exposed too much.

Wouldn’t swap our football for Man U though.


01 Feb 2018 21:19:47
the only thing which should make a difference is point collected and the position in the table.


01 Feb 2018 21:34:42
Stats are sh** we are where we are.


01 Feb 2018 22:34:55
We conceded half of those goals in 4 games.


02 Feb 2018 01:38:21
You can prove anything with stats - for me it's more the confidence thing. When I was a kid back in the 70's and then through the 80's if we ever went 2 or 3 goals up it was 'Thanks for coming and see you next time'. This past couple of years it is a case of 2 or 3 up . let's hope they don't score one or we are in trouble.


01 Feb 2018 17:50:01
Any chance now .................

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{Ed002's Note - No. It will simply cause more grief.}

01 Feb 2018 21:19:35
Ok sorry ed wasn’t trying to cause any grief over it that’s the last thing I wanted!


{Ed002's Note - I know man.}

01 Feb 2018 17:39:06
Just watched the highlights from the Dortmund game. I know as fans we can quickly forget things and easily get wrapped up in negativity but what a night that was. It was almost as if you could sense the comeback after it hit 3-2. I know its not been smooth sailing under Klopp but whatever your opinion on him as a manager, since he came in we've had some insanely entertaining matches and played some absolutely amazing football!

I personally can't wait for the next few years.

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01 Feb 2018 19:17:08
Smallsy if those fans had given up, thrown their toys out of their prams and left the stadium while the team and manager were staring down the barrel of defeat, that outcome does not happen. I always say it. Supporting your team thru thick and thin, is not for the faint-hearted or the mentally weak or for the petulant, spoiled brat. It takes bravery and courage to stare down the barrel of defeat and support your team thru thick and thin and never give up on them EVEN under the heaviest feeling of maddening frustration.

I will always respect those fans in Istanbul who never waivered, never blinked when we were 3-0 down and facing going 5-0 down. They sang their lungs out all game in hope that our boys could somehow do it and THEY DID IT. I love this club and regardless of my frustrations, I will never turn my back on it. Red Till I'm Dead!


01 Feb 2018 16:40:33
Reaching out for help here.

Does anyone know any pubs in or around Nottingham that will show the game on Sunday? Preferably somewhere that is also a child friendly restaurant? Maybe even one with a soft play area like most of the Fayre and Square ones have.

It's a long shot! But I'm going to miss it otherwise 😭.

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01 Feb 2018 16:43:46
probably a weatherspoons mate? im sure they'll air the game?


01 Feb 2018 17:10:28
Hi MK, a partial solution. if you are in Notts city centre go to Friar lane off the main square, there are a couple of places there opposite each other (Southbank and Walkabout bar) that will show the game and have big screens and a good atmosphere. However, neither seem to be child friendly, unless you class several students as children😉 . I would guess child friendly places are more likely to be out of the city centre and I don’t know any, sorry!


01 Feb 2018 17:11:55
In the city centre? The loxley is probably your best shout, it's central, cheap enough, decent grub and a Hal decent atmosphere. Other than that, there's hooters near the train station and Yates isn't bad. Don't particularly go out much in the city so I can't be much more help I'm afraid!


01 Feb 2018 17:12:14
The robin hood in Sherwood shows all the games and kids are welcome but no soft play or food unfortunately. There's one further up the same road the blue peter if memory serves me right, footy food and a pool table but no soft play.


01 Feb 2018 17:13:01
Forgot about child friendly, scratch hooters off the list haha!


01 Feb 2018 17:31:58
Southbank will do ya me duck!


01 Feb 2018 17:58:06
looks like the best pubs with food, kids zone or soft play and the footy are all about 4 or 5 miles out of the center. There seem 2 good ones. If that's any use I will get details.

You could pick a soft play near the center and watch it on sky go (if you have of course) .


01 Feb 2018 18:02:05
Can't help with the query sorry MK and hope you find a solution mate.

I just had to comment and laugh at the down vote of a very simple, harmless question - what pathetic lumps we frequent these sites with at times.


01 Feb 2018 18:04:56
Goose at Gamston. Kids play area too. Meet ya there MK!


01 Feb 2018 18:30:37
The Nurseyman on the A52 towards town centre at Beeston.

BREZTEKE, that's not you Brez is it ya dirty Gooner?

Baz.


01 Feb 2018 19:09:04
Thanks for the huge response lads! All replies are massively appreciated. GeorgeT that Goose at Gamston looks like a great shout! I'm all over that! Cheers mate!

I have to say i got a good laugh from hooters! seriously considered leaving the Mrs in the City centre and meeting you there tobasco, mate 😂.


01 Feb 2018 19:56:25
You're welcome buddy. Warning, you have to pay to throw the kids in the playzone! But worth it for some peace and quiet.

Might see ya in there!


01 Feb 2018 20:12:45
Have a good time MK mate.


01 Feb 2018 20:20:16
Is Hooters for dad's only😁.


01 Feb 2018 21:23:09
Keep an eye out for me George. I'll be the balding 24 year old, with a Scottish red head, and a 1 year old 😂 i expected to pay for the soft play though! That's cool. Thanks again everyone!

Cheers Salah!


01 Feb 2018 22:19:56
Table booked.

This site is boss. Thank you for all your help everyone.


01 Feb 2018 22:55:30
Errr just don't go.


01 Feb 2018 15:59:54
If there's any justice in the football world, Harry Wilson will do a fine job for Hull until May, come back to us in pre-season and save us a small fortune as a Salah backup next season.

Same with Kent at Bristol on the other wing covering for Mane.

I honestly would love nothing more than that to happen, they have the talent, now they have to show it as often as they can.

They could be the next two to push through from the U-23's, take your chance lads and go full tilt for it.

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01 Feb 2018 16:17:17
There is no justice. He needed to stay and hope someone got an injury and it forced klopp to play him, that's pretty much the only way the kids will get a game.

Gomez and Trent wouldn't be playing if clyne was Injured.


01 Feb 2018 16:18:14
Must add Grujic at Cardiff to replace Can if he can show proof he's good enough in the next few months!

Will be watching these 3 especially with serious interest.


01 Feb 2018 18:17:00
“If there's any justice in the football world”

There isn’t mate 🤝.


01 Feb 2018 18:39:48
Interested to see what happens with Ojo seems to have done ok at Fulham but been injured a fair bit.


02 Feb 2018 00:49:12
I love it Kev.

In lauding our youngsters, you're making reference to a high money potential future recruit!

"If there's any justice" ;)


01 Feb 2018 13:31:50
The window has closed folks so can we start looking forward now. We are entering the business end of the season and our team and club need us now more than ever.
Lets make a promise to cut out the bitching and negativity and actually give our team 100 percent support from now on.
Oh and smile for Christ sake.
YNWA.

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01 Feb 2018 14:51:25
We can always hope, Verdo.


01 Feb 2018 13:19:02
Not exactly Liverpool related but i'm sure i'll find a link somehow.

I've been watching Son at Spurs more closely recently and I must say for me he is their 3rd best player (top 2 being Kane and Alderweireld) .

I know there were rumours of Livepool being interested in him before he joined Spurs and I was just wondering how genuine that interest was?

For me he would be the perfect player for us right now, high energy, great on the ball with good drive and he rarely let's his head drop (when he came on against Newport he changed the game, not a mean feat for a millionaire footballer playing on a rugby pitch against people trying to boot him off the pitch) .

So yeah, Eds if you get a chance I would love to know if Liverpool were interested in him at one stage and more than that your opinion of him as a player now.

Cheers all. Thanks for all the hard work over the transfer window as well, much appreciated.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool had a lot of interest in Heung Min Son over a prolonged period when he was at Bayer Leverkusen - as did Spurs and CSKA Moscow. Liverpool rekindled interest as an alternative to Vietto when he was at Villareal. Brendan Rodgers opted for Firminl instead.}

01 Feb 2018 13:50:58
Son and Firmino are such different players.


01 Feb 2018 13:56:44
''Twas a good day when Brendan chose Firmino shiny teeth.


01 Feb 2018 14:48:52
Do you think Son could be turned into the hard working number 9 tracking back and putting himself about like Firmino if we went for him instead? I personally think he could, he seems so versatile.


01 Feb 2018 14:52:00
I would take Son any day. Brilliant player.


01 Feb 2018 14:57:13
The fact that they are such different players is probably why BR chose to pursue Firmino instead.


01 Feb 2018 15:00:50
he may have chosen him but he didn't have a clue what to do with him, thank god klopp came and put that right, for a so called false 9 he has a goals / assists recored most strikers would love to have.


01 Feb 2018 15:26:52
Didn't bayern want a lot more than was offered and were pretty much unwilling to sell so firmino was actually second choice, then bayern changed there time later on the window?


{Ed002's Note - Son was sold for a lot less than Firmino (even without the add ons).}

01 Feb 2018 16:37:32
Good player, I just worry he’s an MOTD player. Don’t know how much he does when he’s not scoring or when he’s starting.
Good super-sub though.


01 Feb 2018 17:45:30
I am glad we got Firmino over Son.


01 Feb 2018 19:18:43
I would have taken both, really.


01 Feb 2018 20:17:00
Son would walk into any of the top teams, qualateee. But we got Bobby who's even better.


02 Feb 2018 00:47:16
He is super selfish. Tend to miss easy chance and score the spectacular which is similar to Firmino. But he lacks the vision of Firmino but make up for it with his speed (Which will wane in due time) . Don't see him playing competitively for top club beyond 28 years old.


01 Feb 2018 13:02:02
Ed02,

We very rarely see eye-to-eye but I have to salute you again on the transfer window.

Another month of ITK's and Twitter nonsense, yet you refused to peddle any of it and stuck to your guns. Good work sir.

Thank you to all Eds for their patience and good work as per usual.

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{Ed002's Note - You are very sweet}

01 Feb 2018 15:04:32
well played ed002 now the January window is done, can you tell us who lfc are going to sign in the summer? have we put a bid in for anyone yet? ( only joking mate! )


01 Feb 2018 12:41:39
Redmen,

I need your help.

Being the giant man baby that I am I had strop after back to back defeats and didn't watch the game on Tuesday.
Not only that I refused to check the score until after the game had finished as I wanted a pleasant night without a heart attack.

However in doing so the team won comfortably 3-0.

Does this now mean I have to repeat the process? Like ED1 and his Christmas lights.

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01 Feb 2018 12:47:43
Yes, it does. Sorry Carra.


01 Feb 2018 12:53:16
No mate. It means you are a bit of a tit, but you can watch 😂.


01 Feb 2018 12:57:50
if you watch the game and we lose against spurs, I will blame you and Mignolet for the loss.


01 Feb 2018 13:01:29
Never understood superstition in football. Lol
I think you all need to get a grip, your Xmas lights, shoes, underwear, lucky scarfs etc make no difference to the football result. 😂
I do like hearing about all your little quirks though to be fair.


01 Feb 2018 14:55:08
Superstition does not exist in any sports, IMO. It's all in your head. In the words of Fatih Terim, Legendary coach of Galatasaray and Turkey, 'There are no miracles if football. There are only three types of results: a win, a draw or a loss'. Nothing more, nothing less.


01 Feb 2018 14:58:10
You hear that everyone? Mikey has admitted him not sticking to winning habits has been the reason we've not taken a title in so long!


01 Feb 2018 13:31:03
I openly admit that MK haha.


02 Feb 2018 00:48:33
It's a similar situation for me. I didn't watch the Man City game and we won. I then watched the two games we lost. Needless to say I won't watch the Spurs game.


01 Feb 2018 12:27:01
Not exactly a liverpool related subject but im sure it can be, with regards to sell on clauses. If a player has a sell on clause but was to run down his contract then move for free to a new club, then later get sold by that club. Would the club he ran his contract down with get part of the fee or not? Im guessing it would be tied into a contract so no, but im not sure.

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

01 Feb 2018 20:03:25
If they've run down their contract. It's expired and the terms and clauses will no longer be valid.


01 Feb 2018 10:48:30
Mr edd 2 if I may ask a few people seem scared to ask about the potential buy out for lfc. The ccp from China want to buy the club. Is there any truth to this.
I understand if you wish not to comment but thought I'd ask. Many thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of the Chinese Communist Party looking to buy Liverpool.}

01 Feb 2018 12:55:29
Thank Mr 2 all the best.


01 Feb 2018 13:02:25
The reds taking over the reds? Lol.


01 Feb 2018 13:31:29
All the fans can have 100k a week to level it up with the players. That's how communism works right?


01 Feb 2018 14:16:13
"Chairman Mao has never seen a greater show of Red strength".


01 Feb 2018 14:25:38
I hate noodles .


01 Feb 2018 15:36:58
Please no, when we sign Neymar and Messi it will bankrupt the club.


01 Feb 2018 11:24:08
So who are the club looking at for the summer window eds? 😛😛.

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01 Feb 2018 12:06:01
Give them a chance mate. They were rushed off their feet for the last few days.

Everything you need to know is in old posts.


01 Feb 2018 12:32:52
I assume Boydy was being amusing markp08.ever heard of emoticons?


01 Feb 2018 12:43:43
lol mark hahaha you took his post wrong I think mate lol not that I haven't done it before mind ;)


01 Feb 2018 15:39:00
Fottballers I'd imagine, mind you bin men would probably do a better job than Mignolet in goal.


Review Of The Day 1st February 2018

01 Feb 2018 10:56:06
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 1st February 2018

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01 Feb 2018 11:09:46
Cheers Ed, was thinking you wouldn't get one done today with you been busy and all but thanks mate :)


{Ed001's Note - once I have taken a break to have some brekkie and have a shower and stuff I will get cracking on the match review.}

01 Feb 2018 11:21:18
Brilliant cheers mate!


{Ed001's Note - I would say it was a pleasure, but right now I am not so sure ;-)

01 Feb 2018 12:10:58
Just a suggestion
no need to post this

why not just do a quick overview of the match, instead of going through each player? Just pick a couple to praise.

I thought for once we did a professional job just what was needed on the day.

Because before you know it there will be the previews on Friday etc. and Ed025 is on a 2 week bender

Breathe.


{Ed001's Note - good idea mate, I will see how much time I have.}

01 Feb 2018 10:31:14
January transfer window assessment:

Swapped one first team player for another.
Trimmed a bit of excess from the squad.
Sent a few kiddies on loan.

In regards to the first team players, we sold a brilliant attacking player but one who wasn't pulling his weight and holding the team back, we still have an embarrassment of riches of attacking talent in the team, we are not going to struggle going forward for the remaining 13 games of the season.
The one we bought was a much needed defender and leader, someone we have been crying out for for years now, we have been appalling in central defence and VVD is the perfect upgrade and will make us much stronger in defence.

Overall, I think the team is stronger going forward, we have lost a little bit of creativity but added defensive strength. We needed defensive strength much more than we needed Coutinhos creativity or goals. Plus Coutinho wasn't pulling his weight so there was no choice but to let him go. I have no doubt we will need to replace what we have lost in him but summer is better for that and we are being linked with some fantastic talent that will improve the team further.

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01 Feb 2018 11:48:06
Sorry Mikey I think you're doing a massive disservice to Coutinho there. The lad was a big part of our 18 game unbeaten run and qualifying into the knockout stages of the CL. To say he was holding us back is harsh. His defensive stats this season were very similar to his previous seasons.


01 Feb 2018 12:10:59
Sorry Jayden but stats mean nothing to me, he’s been lazy all season since his head was turned, few flashes of brilliance yes and a few goals but it’s a team game and he’s not been a team player.


01 Feb 2018 12:38:59
Mikey totally respect your opinion mate. For me I think he has been far from a team player off the pitch with his antics but on the pitch I thought he was pretty good. He's always had consistency issues so him blowing hot and cold is nothing new to me.


01 Feb 2018 13:08:56
I respect yours as well Jayden but to me he’s just not put in any real effort this season, I know he’s always been inconsistent but this is more than that, he’s not really bothered to track back or be part of the press, been looking to go for wonder goals when a pass would be more suitable etc. Our midfield is struggling anyway but he exacerbated things for me. He had a few good games when he did bother to put the Work in but they where too few and far between.


01 Feb 2018 15:00:57
I thought he was pretty good on the field as well Jayden, but 'pretty good' for arguably the worlds best player definitely amounts to 'half arsing'


01 Feb 2018 15:03:10
I respect your opinion, Jay BUT Mikey is right here. Cou played and had some decent games, I admit BUT he was piss poor in others esp. those where he could not be arsed to make a tackle or track back or pass to a better placed team mate. Check the WBA, Burnley and esp. the Spurs game where his conduct overall was complete horse manure. Also, whatever decent games he may have had to me, are nullified by his dreadful and disgusting behavior, threatening to blow up our season if he did not get his way.

Cou has played way better in the past than he did this season so to me, Klopp did the right thing by letting him go and protecting the DR and club from the useless distraction he definitely would have been. Now, we can focus on the task with no distractions nor bad influence. I wish him well cos well, there are more important things in life than bearing grudges against transient employees BUT his conduct was still dreadful and tat is his cross to bear. That's how I see it.


01 Feb 2018 15:11:28
countinho represents the past, we need to look forward to the future, we still have plenty to play for starting with a massive game on sunday against spurs.


02 Feb 2018 00:44:13
How does selling couthiho and buying nobody makes us stronger in attack, I must have a different view of how football is played and how squads are put together from pretty much everyone on here. Did couthiho not have better goals scored and assist stats this season for games played than any other of his seasons previously? And this "he downed tools", well I'm pretty sure if that's true there's no way klopp would keep playing him, backing him in press conferences and make him captain. To use a basic analogy this is what you all sound like, it's like having a stunning girlfriend and when she bins you for someone else you tell everyone who'll listen that she was a pig and you binned her, couthinho is a fantastic player and we haven't even attempted to replace him so we are now WEAKER as an attacking unit.


01 Feb 2018 10:03:53
Glad the window is closed we can move on now on concentrate on football.

Glad we didn't spend for the sake of it makes more sense to get the right players at the right price!

Onwards up to 3rd without kicking a ball and the Champs League is back this month.

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01 Feb 2018 09:23:29
Thought I'd chip in with my two cents.

Both Ings and Solanke can be our 'new signings' for the remainder of the season.

Neither have really contributed much to the season so far and hopefully they take a bit of confidence from the fact that Klopp rates them highly enough to not bring in more attacking players and fingers crossed they can step up when given the chance.

If they can contribute just 10 goals between them before the end of the season then that could be huge for us.

Also feel like Henderson can be really important to us if he stays fit for the rest of the season.

I'm glad we didn't make signings for the sake of it and hopefully the players we have now step up to the plate.

3rd at the end of January, every Liverpool fan would have taken that at the beginning of the season and I believe we can have a good finish to the season!

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01 Feb 2018 09:32:35
Good post mate.


01 Feb 2018 09:56:28
99% agree.

Only thing i disagree on is the 10 goals part. Solanke and Sturridge played a combined 1,070 minutes in the clubs first 36 games of the season so far, scoring 3 and assisting 5 between them. We'll do well to play half that amount of games between now and the end of the season.

Unless we have an injury crisis or Klopp drastically changes the system, Ings and Solanke will probably only get 10-20 minutes as a sub, here and there. With us only having 13 league games left, and a maximum of 20 games in all competitions if we go all the way to the Champions league final, odds are they will be lucky to get 300 minutes of football, each. Therefore if they got 5 goals each, we're expecting them to score at a rate of approximately a goal every 60 minutes.

A much more realistic target would be about 4 goals as that would work out at a goal every 150 minutes which is all Sturridge was managing and about right for a 5th and 6th choice forward.

If they got 5 each I'd be over the moon! It's not really a realistic target though considering we're out of both domestic cups and they're therefore unlikely to start any games. They need 2 players of the first choice quartet to suffer long term injuries to have any hope of getting a decent run.

This is what people weren't considering when they were pining for more attacking depth. It simply wasn't and isn't necessary. Mane, Firmino, Salah and Ox is about £160-200m of forwards. Ings and Solanke will barely get a kick how it is. If they can just come of the bench, get involved and make a difference to 3 or 4 games, then that is more than enough. Back up forwards don't score many goals though, unless they get a sustained run due to cup competitions or an injury crisis.

Ox on the other hand, should get a lot more game time in the front 3 and attacking midfield with Coutinho gone. So he should be targeting another 4 goals to double his current tally, in my opinion.


01 Feb 2018 10:07:52
Didnt realise we had so few games left!

Any contribution by the two of them will be great, a few goals could add some very important points for us.

We have arguably our hardest remaining game this weekend so fingers crossed they can get started against the Spuds!


01 Feb 2018 10:09:02
Top post George. Ings looks like a caged lion when he hits the field, he's clearly hungry for goals. Hendo back at just the right time too. We're looking healthy for the remainder of this season. Sunday's game is a big one, we should be up for it. I hope we play Karius and the same pair of CBs going forward in all comps.


01 Feb 2018 10:20:26
I think you’ve e over thought that one mk, given Lallana is out again; couts gone and sturridge now out on loan that’s 3 attacking players we would have used before these 2 earlier in the season. I think they will be getting a lot more game time from here on in.


01 Feb 2018 10:27:22
10 goals? No chance I’m afraid.

Hope I’m wrong.


01 Feb 2018 10:33:28
If we play well. and have some sort of point cushion in terms of top 4 then might be the main guys start in the champions league and solanke might get a few 80 or 90 minutes for games just after those matches. Lots of ifs but in a positive mindset with a result on sunday why not.


01 Feb 2018 11:46:47
Swishcleaner, Lallana is out for a few weeks and didn't play at all in the first half of the season. Plus he plays midfield now so I'd disregard him in this discussion, personally.

Before this window, we had Coutinho, Firmino and Salah as starters. Mane was 4th choice. Ox was 5th. Sturridge was 6th. Solanke was 7th.

After this window, we have Mane, Firmino and Salah as starters. Ox as 4th choice. Solanke is 5th. Ings is 6th. Woodburn is 7th.

There is no overthinking here. You just can't expect players who will barely kick a ball to score that many and George has admitted he didn't realise we had so few games. Solanke and Ings will be 5th and 6th in the pecking order for about 17 games. In the previous 36 games our 5th and 6th choice players (Ox and Sturridge) got 7 goals. With half the games, it is only realistic to target half the goals. That is not rocket science or overthinking. It is common sense mate.

Basically, Coutinho and Sturridge leaving just created space for Ings and Woodburn to come out of the u23's and into the first team. Plus the players who were already in the pecking order got a promotion (of sorts) up the list.

Obviously, the loss of Coutinho and Sturridge damages our quality in depth marginally on paper. Ings and Woodburn are not as good and that is a fact. This is the chance for the other players (Mane, Ox, Solanke, Ings) to show why we spent about £100m on them, though. Maybe they will step up. If not, expect changes to be made in the summer. With 13-20 games left though, i really don't think it matters that much. There is plenty of attacking quality in this team. Salah and Firmino look well on course to score 60 between them.


01 Feb 2018 12:19:37
I think Mane will play a big part in how well we finish the season. If he can rediscover last seasons form anything is possible.

I think it went wrong for him in the City away game with the sending off. He became a bit timid after. Up until that game he had been good.

Come on Mane your the main man, now is the time to prove it.


01 Feb 2018 12:23:40
Firmino is not going to start the next 18 games or so - guaranteed. One of those two will get a lot more game time as Sturridge was earlier in the season. They are both still learning our style of play etc so it would make sense they were used less in the first half. ( obviously Ings wasn’t fit)

I wasn’t arguing about goals cos I don’t know- 1 goal could work wonders for either of them. But what I am fairly sure of is that with high intensity game going into that last part of the season they will be called on a lot more. Up to them if they take it or I would expect another striker to come in and both Ings and studge to leave permanently.


01 Feb 2018 12:36:49
The 300 minutes i predicted would be about 2 starts and roughly 10 sub appearances each. Do you think they'll get more than that? I thought i was being ambitious on their behalf.

Bearing in mind that we only have a maximum of 20 games in about 100 days, i can't see rotation being a key factor. If Ings and Solanke play more than 600 minutes between now and May, I'll be amazed. Bobby should be capable of starting every game if he avoids injury. Even i could play 20 games in 3 and a half months! It might not be 20 games either, as although I'm backing us to win the CL, that is not a realistic target! Realistically we will probably beat Porto and then lose to Juventus in the next round!


01 Feb 2018 12:52:40
Fair enough MK, we’ll just have to see. He was resting Firmino earlier in the season so I’m expecting to see at least then same, possibly more if he picks up anybody niggles ( I sincerely hope not! ) I’m hoping at least one of our sub strikers can step up with some goals when they are called upon!


01 Feb 2018 15:02:20
Bear in mind that resting Firmino doesn't guarentee using Ings or Solanke more though - depending when and why he is rested, Klopp could just as easily move Mane or Salah central and play Chamberlin or Lallana out wide.


02 Feb 2018 00:41:34
Your looking desperately for a positive and that's OK but realistically the players you mentioned are not going to elevate us as a side, solanke is just a kid and hopefully down the line could be a very good player, but it's unfair to throw pressure on him, ings was a great signing but sadly the injuries he's had are seldom recovered from fully and I doubt he'll reach his potential. Henderson just doesn't look the same player and I think the heel injury is still niggling him. If we have any significant injuries or suspensions then we're not equipped to cope. Fingers crossed we stay injury free, but I won't go into what I think or who I blame.


01 Feb 2018 09:03:09
Hi Ed001, sorry if I’ve missed it, but has there been a match review from the Huddersfield game the other night?

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - no mate, I haven't had time to do it yet. I will do it as soon as I can. Still too busy at the moment to even look at it yet.}

01 Feb 2018 08:29:29
Ed001, in your opinion is Demirbay seen as an alternative to Lemar, or would Klopp like both in the summer?

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{Ed001's Note - he is not an alternative mate.}

01 Feb 2018 08:45:05
Does not look good for Lallana or Gini if that's the case Ed001. Not that I would be disappointed with both Lemar and Demirbay but Klopp needs to make sure he does not change too much around in the summer. He has wanted Lemar for some time, Alisson has become a priority for the summer so these two should be lined up first. Players like Demirbay can wait as there is no urgent need to move Lallana on.


{Ed001's Note - it is more Henderson's fitness that is the issue mate, though Lallana is coming to the end of his time and will need replacing in the next year or two.}

01 Feb 2018 08:51:44
great point ed. was thinking that should be the carrot for Can (assuming Klopp and co try to offer terms that would keep Can. ) . the future midfield could be him and keita.


01 Feb 2018 08:53:14
Not sure how Hendo comes into the equation though Ed001. Neither Demirbay nor Lemar play Hendo's position. They have got to be replacements for Lallana and Gini. If Hendo's fitness issues persist, we need to look for a defensive minded midfielder especially with Can leaving.


01 Feb 2018 09:03:49
Who's our target's for the summer Ed001?Sorry I couldn't help it mate😁.


{Ed001's Note - argggghhhhhh!!!}

01 Feb 2018 09:43:54
haha, good man Barry. Ed001 how likely would you rate the chances that Liverpool will buy a footballer from a continent whose name has a 'q' in it either in the summer 2018, January 2019 or in the summer of love? Let's say, on a scale of 1-14, like?


{Ed001's Note - 0.75983 to the power of 85.}

01 Feb 2018 10:03:09
For anyone interested, that is a 0.0000000000725933955% chance.

Nailed on.


{Ed001's Note - I am sure no one needed to be told mate, it was basic maths.}

02 Feb 2018 09:20:32
haha, excellent. I knew it! Quincy Promes is on his way. That'll be a good way to keep Gini happy, then bring in Hegazi to bunk with Mo and a new Brazilian bestie for Bobby. Big Liverpool love-in 2018. That's how these things work, right?


01 Feb 2018 08:15:51
Amy news on the identity of the "mystery player" that Macca alluded to?

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01 Feb 2018 08:23:44
Louis Saha.


01 Feb 2018 08:28:07
In my opinion it was Griezmann, but doing a deal for him in January was always going to be difficult.


01 Feb 2018 08:44:19
It was lemar.


01 Feb 2018 08:46:30
Griezmann was never going to join us. Barcelona want him as their marquee summer signing, Real want him to replace an ageing forward line and both Manc clubs have been interested in him for a while. No way LFC comes into the picture.


01 Feb 2018 08:47:24
I am less interested in who it was really, I just want to know what position in the team we are looking to fix with this top top player. If it was Griezmann I don't see the point as we have a great forward line already and Id much rather prefer someone like Varane or Rabiot. Eds/ Macca can you at least tell us what position he would play in the team?


01 Feb 2018 09:02:42
Did Macca not say it was a player who wasn't mentioned?


01 Feb 2018 09:56:56
Icardi.


01 Feb 2018 10:23:29
Yes Barry he did but when he posted it AG hadn’t been mentioned, later he reposted saying he was now all over the news ( when the odds came down in him joining us)


01 Feb 2018 10:28:10
It was Fekir.


01 Feb 2018 12:54:16
It was me.


01 Feb 2018 08:00:45
Just want to say thanks to all the rodeo clowns, chimney sweeps and foot-hair merchants for all their efforts on these pages. Brilliant work all round. Now it’s up to the team to push on. Onwards and upwards LFC!

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

01 Feb 2018 07:50:35
Well done Klopp no panic signings and wait for the right targets at the right prices
best thing for me this Window (besides Virgil) is the loan deals for Harry Wilson and Ova Ejaria getting loans moves to Championships clubs.
Hopefully they crack on and come back ready for squad places next season and save us money which can be put to better use.

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01 Feb 2018 08:48:10
NO panic signings huh?
There is going to be a massive uproar by a majority of the fanbase if we fail to get top4 and do not sign Alisson and Lemar in the summer. Klopp made his decision and he needs to justify that those two players were worth waiting for.


01 Feb 2018 09:24:59
No need to worry about top 4. We are going to finish 2nd this year. Hakuna matata lads. 👍.


01 Feb 2018 10:31:26
So Indian he needs to justify they were worth Waiting for? Why? Cos their clubs refused to sell them now as we did couts in the summer? It’s clear we tried to make things happen and it wasn’t to be. It’s not like we said ‘ We don’t want to sign anyone’. If the right players aren’t available. Then You don’t buy. unless you want to keep making the same mistakes as the past.


01 Feb 2018 10:49:16
Indian Buzzer. do you represent the majority of our fan base? As I'm pretty sure there would not be uproar. All the eds have already eluded to the fact that signing keepers in January is a difficult task, so it was unlikely a keeper would ever arrive to help us for a top 4 push this January anyway.
What if we signed Lemar yesterday for 90mil and he doesn't perform, discrupts the Ox and manes season (possible positions he would play) and we fail to make the top4? Then the 'majority' of the fan base would be moaning that we've wasted 90mil on a player and rushed our decision for no benefit.
The reality is mate. we have a good starting 11, two spare strikers who are hungry to contribute, we have the Ox who covers the same positions as Lemar. imagine if last August we signed Lemar but didn't sign the Ox, I don't think people would be panicking as much right now as he has a cool name but both players do similar roles in the team. We also have a few midfielders fighting for their starting spots due to keitas arrival and demirbray scouting, which should keep everyone on their toes for the remainder of the season!
Let's be positive and stop pre planning our future frustrations!


02 Feb 2018 00:42:07
£75 million for van dijk the right people at the right price, oxalaide chamberlain £40 million with 10 months left on his contract 🙈. You couldn't make this stuff up. Honestly!


01 Feb 2018 06:58:22
Window is now closed so the confirmation we all knew anyway is that this current squad will finish the season. We all know our weakness's and we know our strengths. I'm sure there is going to be many ups and plenty of downs from now until May but I am for one looking forward to it. Pointless dwelling on who we have sold and not signed as there is nothing that can be done about it now. We might as well just sit back and enjoy the football. YNWA.

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01 Feb 2018 07:38:03
Agreed. I think we are the second most feared team in the league and that's why most teams park buses against us. It would of been nice to get a locksmith in the midfield but we have actually had decent away results and are unbeaten at home. City are making everyone look average but if it weren't for their form we would be in the title hunt with United and chelski. Just praying for a solanke goal and ingsy to score and that confidence boost should be like signing new players. YNWA.


01 Feb 2018 08:09:40
Which league table you looking at 'Fatboy. '? In the title hunt with United and Chelski? Given we're above Chelsea now and only 3 points behind united surely we're already in the title hunt? oh, hang on, City are miles ahead of all of us.


01 Feb 2018 08:17:07
Exactly I would have loved someone to come in but Klopp knows his squad best he knows who he wants and if he didn’t see something during January that he wanted then fair play to the fella I’ll trust him and the Les we’ve got. 3rd at the minute, AND if all goes wel Sunday we can open some space between 5th and ourselves regardless of other results. Still very optimistic have a good one reds be back at the weekend haha.


01 Feb 2018 04:06:49
Looking forward to the back end of this season and seeing our players step up. I really believe in this group and that they are good enough to get top 4. Shout it down all you like, but we've not been a regular feature in europe like the true heavyweight of football. C'mon redmen! Will be up every game at whaever time in the morning cheering em on, hope the anfield goers are boisterous to help keep us all on the edge of our seats!

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01 Feb 2018 02:36:31
Anyone criticising our keepers and pining over the other top 6's - take a look at the three goals Courtois conceded tonight. Laughable. Unless you're a Chelski fan. Even the 'best' keepers let in goals! Let's see how Karius beds in.

And for those after a £75M out-and-out striker- just go and watch what Lukaku did tonight. I for one am very very glad the club are negotiating a contract with Firmino the keep him at LFC for the rest of his career. Oh and I did notice that he didn't get a hug off Klopp at Huddersfield, but he wasn't ignored like some are saying- he got a handshake. Maybe he just doesn't like hugs? He is a gangster after all.

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01 Feb 2018 05:57:32
Stoneage all players have a bad game every once in a while where as our keepers only have a good game every once in a while.

If our keepers where up for sale I don't think they'd be many teams in tge prem trying to buy them.

As for lukaku is agree I would rather have firmino, lukaku is just a target man.


01 Feb 2018 06:47:11
Stoneage personally i wouldn't use Courtois as an absolute top keeper, next level down maybe but I've always felt he was a bit over-hyped and his height was a factor in that. (He may be better than Mignolet and Karius but put him nehind a weak defence and he usn't going to change things all that much) .


01 Feb 2018 07:33:46
Of course he made mistakes all players do they are only human after all. You can't seriously compare Courtouis to Mignolet though and Karius now has 4 months to prove himself. If Karius does prove himself then not only will he save us a fortune but he will solve a weakness we have had for years.


01 Feb 2018 07:57:38
De Gea is the best keeper in the world. There is simply no keeper in the world more important to a team than him. Without them Mourinho would be out of a job already. All players make mistakes. I’d go against everything that's ever come natural to me and support the club if they ever did the unthinkable and made an approach for him. For now, karius is the man. He’s an improvement on what we’ve had and if he has a few good games under his belt who knows how good he can become. He’s still a kid and was hailed in Germany as a rising star at one point.


01 Feb 2018 00:31:25
Just wondering if any of the Ed's has heard any rumours of the possibility of Klopp becoming the next Real Madrid manager? I know all the talk in UK is about them being interested in Pochettino, but according to a Real Madrid friend of mine, who knows an ex player from the German league there is talk of Klopp being looked at as the next Madrid coach. Think his style of play would please their fans so could see them being interested as Zidane looks unlikely to be there next season.

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01 Feb 2018 07:58:52
Is Pochettino not destined for the United seat?


01 Feb 2018 08:35:49
Apparently this info comes from Kevin Trapps agent.


01 Feb 2018 08:40:31
Ed002 said Real won’t be approaching Klopp. That’s good enough for me 👍.


01 Feb 2018 09:31:35
Real will go after Joachim Low imo. Not sure they will get him though. Or maybe Allegri or Conte but not KLopp.


01 Feb 2018 00:17:56
IMO we have been nothing short of reckless this transfer window. We have sold a top quality player for £142m and not replaced him. Absolutely crazy. We've also let Sturridge go out on loan. I know everyone is going to stay 'yeah, but he never played', but neither have lallana, Ings or Solanke, who we are now going to be relying on being as this is a squad game. Also, Sturridge has scored more goals than all those 3 combined. I've read that it is Klopp that has decided not to bring anyone in and not FSG, but if we don't finish top 4 after this he surely has to pay the price with his job as this is a massive gamble to take. As a Liverpool fan I truly hope i'm wrong and we finish top 4 but I think we have really made a mistake, our midfield is poor. Rant over.

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01 Feb 2018 01:16:04
Stupid rant questioning Klopps position, my god one would've thought you was on the live chat page. Your speaking nonsense, you do realise we spent big money on a CB everybody was raving about right? we got him, and suddenly that wasn't good enough lol people tend to think because we sold coutinho for all of that money we have it all ready to spend on so and so player, we don't, chill out and judge in the summer.


01 Feb 2018 03:58:41
You should take a second to also consider what the player wanted—game time. He wasn’t getting that here, and has been a good servant to the club. It was only right that he got his move. He wants to play in Russia this summer and who could blame him.

Aside from the players wishes, he has hardly featured and the manager is placing faith in Ings (who will surprise us im sure of it) and Solanke (a young lad promised to develop here) .

People for Van Dijk was bought this window as well. So while we may have weakened in one area, we at least strengthened (at least in theory) in other areas.


01 Feb 2018 06:50:26
Currntly 4th with a points gap to 5th and on level points with 3rd. Yep looks like Klopp is an idiot and the squad are weak.


01 Feb 2018 07:01:28
Haha that made me laugh the original post. Cheers mate. Good start to the morning.


01 Feb 2018 08:22:13
Why do people keep saying 'panic buy'? We knew that PC wanted out for a long time. Lining up a replacement is not panicing its sensible. It was reported on here last night that we made a late move for demirbay, so that would suggest Klopp isn't totally happy with his squad. We've got the latter stages of ECL and the 2nd half of the season to contend with, I think there were a number of players we could have got that would have improved our squad.


01 Feb 2018 08:47:00
Realistically all we had to play for domestically when we sold PC were FA cup and top 4. Keeping PC would not have helped us catch Man City, they’re gone.
Selling PC is a calculated gamble, clearly the club believes by spending a world record fee on a defender balances out the loss of PC enough to get us top 4. I agree with that.


01 Feb 2018 09:05:16
it's one thing to know for a long time and prepare to bring someone in, and totally another to actually secure that target. could bring in a 3rd or 4th option now but then we're stuck with that player in the summer when our 1st option becomes available. nah, I'm algoods with us holding fire.
we got enough weapons to get us over the line, and actually would be disappointed if we didn't with this squad.


02 Feb 2018 00:43:21
Tommy, don't listen to the insults from salah, your post is totally fine, it's your opinion so can't be wrong. I would say klopp is publicly saying its his choice because he still has a lot of credibility with 80% of the fan base were the owners don't and he's a pawn in there game. So I wouldn't blame him when the you know what hits the fan. Continue to post what you feel to be right, there's a clique of posters on here who monopolise the site and who's posts fly up within seconds of being written and will try and shout you down, stick to your guns kid.


 
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