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06 Oct 2019 17:03:14
well done to the U23's who got a 3-2 win today.

Joe Gelhardt got a brace against us, i remember hearing we were looking at signing him? is there any truth? 17 decent prospect.

The Southern Red



02 Sep 2019 12:33:31
Kent, Finally, off to rangers, region of £6/ 7m plus add ons. Good luck to the fella!

The Southern Red



21 Aug 2019 14:41:12
Rumour has it Herbie Kane is staying and will be staying in the first team squad, is there any truth in this?

The Southern Red

1.) 21 Aug 2019 18:31:58
I guess it's a " " scenario. Klopp wants him for the League Cup but Kane is still hoping to go out on loan for his development.

I can't blame the lad. If we go far in the League cup, he'll lose his place to more experienced squad players and if we don't, he's stayed to play 1 or 2 games.

2.) 21 Aug 2019 21:09:37
Best of luck to the lad, whichever road he takes.

3.) 21 Aug 2019 21:33:53
Would make no little sense to not let him move on, it seems near impossible to think he has any hope of getting anywhere near our first team now or in the future, he's not that young anymore either he should be looking to move on.

4.) 22 Aug 2019 01:12:20
Is he good? And how is his style of play?

5.) 22 Aug 2019 10:23:54
How are we classing 20 year olds as "not that young"?! Sheer madness!

6.) 22 Aug 2019 11:28:58
I had the pleasure of watching the lad all season at Donny rovers and he was fantastic! He's a midfielder who likes to dictate the tempo but also chipped in with a few goals. By no means am I saying he's ready for the first team but it sounds like a lot of nonsense saying a 20 yo is 'not that young' and to move him on 😂.

7.) 22 Aug 2019 12:14:08
I don't get it either. Why are players expected to be top level so young? If they aren't ready by 23 they are written off? Makes no sense to me, especially looking at how many players over the years we have bought in deemed ready and or good enough for our first team, who have turned out to be poor. Ok it has improved significantly recently, but how many of the roles filled by those signings could have just been given to one of our graduates.

8.) 22 Aug 2019 12:19:09
He played in the Number 6 role for the U23s so potentially there could be a place for him as backup to Fabinho.

9.) 22 Aug 2019 14:23:48
Herbie Kane is not good enough for the first team in my opinion. I know he was rated by Stevie but he has turned into a championship player. (in my opinion)

10.) 22 Aug 2019 15:37:31
And what is (your opinion) based upon irishscouser2?

Unless you followed Doncaster the whole year last year and have attended Liverpool training since then you cannot make such an assumption.

11.) 22 Aug 2019 19:50:38
Playing well for Doncaster means nothing, he has never looked good enough for the first team.

People might think he's old cos he's the oldest looking 20 year old in football.

12.) 22 Aug 2019 20:13:33
How does playing well for Doncaster as a 19 year old mean nothing, their fans and coach raves about him playing.

But to be fair once you are 20 you cannot improve ever you are stuck at that level for life.

“He has never looked good enough for the first team” I wil say It again he’s back from a loan as a 19 year old and the club haven’t loaned him out as want to have him in and around the FIRST team squad.

He may never make it at Liverpool but to write him off now is just plain odd.

{Ed025's Note - yeah...and dirty boots wont clean themselves SR..

13.) 22 Aug 2019 21:44:57
We say the same thing almost every year about a youngster, minus Brewster and TAA who from early on you could see they were better than most. Strange I don't remember them being loaned out.99% of our youngsters are decent players and will do well in the lower leagues, not Liverpool.

14.) 22 Aug 2019 22:32:11
well ed, you must know, if the boot room comes back the golden years are upon us.

I am a fan of Kane, probably won't make it at liverpool but i dislike people discarding young players as "deadwood"

{Ed001's Note - we will only know if he is good enough when he gets a chance.}

15.) 23 Aug 2019 18:26:00
I've said on another thread (regarding the next recruit from the academy after TAA and Brewster) . The fact that Klopp wants him to stay with the first team squad then you never know.

Kane could be the next TAA/ Brewster. At this stage Klopp and the coaching staff know more than we do as they see him in training, and we are just speculating, based on the fact he was at Doncaster last season whether he is or isn't good enough.

16.) 23 Aug 2019 20:04:46
My apologies when I stated he's not that young I never knew he was only 20, I always had the thought he was around the 23 mark, he certainly doesn't look that young.

It's the fact he plays in a position where he's currently 8 or 9th in pecking order is the realistic issue that I see his Liverpool future being unlikely.
Never intended to sound like I was completely writing the lad off.

17.) 25 Aug 2019 08:48:50
9th in the pecking order, who’s ahead of him, you including gerrard and alonso.

18.) 25 Aug 2019 10:03:00
The other Kane, oh yer Harry! Didn’t he get started late too, not everyone develops the same. Might take a few more years so all we care about is talent and him taking chances when they arrive.

20 is nothing, still got 15 years decent football in him maybe more!

19.) 25 Aug 2019 20:09:10
Southern red. fabinho hendo wiji Milner keita OX lallana Jones. That's 8 players who are clearly considered ahead of Kane currently.

Do you really see him competing for first team? Playing in the u23s might benefit him who knows but my point is that it's unlikely he can break into this team and a move would be surely his best career option. Would you not agree?



20 Aug 2019 12:01:04
Apparently we have rejected an approach from a Norwegian team for Duncan.

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1.) 20 Aug 2019 13:50:15
Would that be "DUNKIN BISCUIT"? Seriously he replaced Brewster last night and did better in his half hour than Brewster in an hour.

2.) 20 Aug 2019 18:33:28

3.) 20 Aug 2019 20:23:42
Imho I think Duncan could be a top player.



12 Aug 2019 13:20:40
Looks like Kane is off to Portsmouth, slightly odd move given last seasons performances but hopefully can help them win the league.

The Southern Red

1.) 12 Aug 2019 16:36:04
Wait are you talking about Mr H kane or Mr H kane 🤔.

{Ed025's Note - herbie would be my guess cod..

2.) 12 Aug 2019 17:55:37
The true H Kane of this country Herbie.

3.) 12 Aug 2019 21:34:01
Harry swore on his daughters life that he would never play for Portsmouth!

4.) 13 Aug 2019 09:26:50
Might be a blessing in disguise considering how little of a summer break he had. International break soon so hopefully Brazil don't rush him back for that and he comes back fit and refreshed.




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06 Nov 2019 11:16:07
Hi Ed’s,

Not sure if this is the best place for this, but given we are playing 2 games in such a short space to time and the majority of our first team heading out to Qatar. Who can I call to put my name in the hat for the villa game?

I have some old predators that I can dust off, just not sure where the applications were being processed!

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - There is no need as Liverpool should have no problem playing the two games - it is not like clubs have not done this before.}

1.) 06 Nov 2019 11:35:44
For me, I’d prefer to win the Carabao Cup, as a fan. Financially it would be better for the club to win the club World Cup? I don’t know. It’s a day out at Wembley and yet another domestic trophy.

On another spin, I’d love to dethrone City of the league cup, would be a massive physiological blow to them of we won - just my opinion

The only advantage I see in the trip to Qatar is the warm weather.

We could also go and win both I suppose, I just feel a second strong team will struggle at Villa Park. I’ve been their ground loads of times and they really do create a good atmosphere- typical old fashion ground.

2.) 06 Nov 2019 11:40:15
Forgot to mention - We’ve never won the world club cup and this team would be the first team in Liverpool’s history to win it if successful.

So that’s the other side to the debate.

3.) 06 Nov 2019 11:43:26
But Ed you haven’t seen me play.

{Ed002's Note - You should show up for the charity match next year.}

4.) 06 Nov 2019 12:33:56
Ed2 the games are less the 22 hours apart. not to mention playing the game and travel time. Its a little silly not to move the league cup game.

I remember when SAF skipped the FA cup when they had to play in the World club championship. Caused a right fuse at the time. They where defending it too.

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure you understand. Nobody is expecting any of the players to play both games.}

5.) 06 Nov 2019 12:34:17
That is a very fair point!



03 Nov 2019 14:51:42
There is talk of Keheller going out on loan in January, is there any truth in this? Whilst he has done well in the league cup. Getting regular game time would be more beneficial.

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - Only if Karius returns.}

1.) 03 Nov 2019 16:59:53
Fair enough, Do you think it’s different with keepers for getting experience?

Keheller working around Allison etc day in day out. Is it as important to get game time as an outfield player?

{Ed002's Note - Match time is what the players want.}

2.) 03 Nov 2019 17:28:53
It's hard to see him having a first team future spot at Liverpool with allison likely to spend the coming years as no.1. For grabara and kelliher they need to play regularly to forge the best career they can. We saw how Danny ward had a successful loan which benefited us financially. Adrian is now a perfect back up so let kelliher go out and gain experience once we get someone suitable to cover as backup.



01 Nov 2019 10:31:12
Hi Ed’s with Fabinho one yellow from suspension do you think we should rest him against Villa?

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - no, the next game is always the most important.}

1.) 01 Nov 2019 12:31:32

2.) 01 Nov 2019 15:22:38
Your nailed on for a yellow in that defensive midfield role. Personally I'd leave him out, Hendo can do a job and bring OX in.

3.) 01 Nov 2019 17:23:51
We shouldn't be thinking about City before we've played Villa.

4.) 01 Nov 2019 23:12:52
Spot on, Rigsby. IMO, Klopp may already have a plan should Fab not be available for the City game. IMO, just play him cos the City game ain't going to matter one bit if we don't do all we can to beat Villa tmrw. Play Fab and if he gets a yellow, we make do and we move on.

5.) 02 Nov 2019 06:20:28
I'd rest him, as he's going to need a break sometime so why not the villa game, he'll be fresh then for Europe midweek and raring for city on Sunday. We have midfield options available so good time to use the squad.

{Ed001's Note - he gets a rest during the international break as he doesn't often play for his country.}

6.) 02 Nov 2019 07:24:54
That's true but I thinks it's the yellow card issue is my main worry really. I just don't want to have a midfield player who's going to be cautious about committing tackles as I'm sure it will be on his mind. I think gini and hendo have shown they're good enough to manage that role and give the OX the instruction to get at villa offensively. I'd personally be confident in that 3 man midfield without risking fabinho.

7.) 02 Nov 2019 11:59:41
I think Klopp will play him and already have a game plan in place should he get booked. Cos if Fab does not play and we don't win, many will be moaning as to why Klopp did not play him. And if he does play and get booked and we win, the complaints will come either way so to me, play him and hope for the best.



31 Oct 2019 18:36:41
So are we all in agreement Williams Is now our future RB and Trent can move into midfield.

The Southern Red

1.) 31 Oct 2019 19:24:15
Long way to go for that. It's up to him - does he want to be like Trent or be like Flanno?

2.) 31 Oct 2019 19:27:05
He can be our back up right back for now as wat other right back in world football provides the creativity from that position, trent progressing too midfield will take time as our midfield is all about graft and work rate it will happen but gradually.

3.) 31 Oct 2019 23:39:00
Not so fast, Southern. That kid still needs a tonne of work. I do admire his tenacity and determination and will to win cos w/ o that, he does not produce he best cross of the game that brought the 5th goal. That attitude should bode well for him going forward.

4.) 01 Nov 2019 08:29:41
I don't get what the big thing is about getting Trent into midfield when are fullbacks are so important to the way we play. As for Williams he is only a young kid but all ready you can see he is nowhere near the standard of Trent so why would you want to weaken one of are most creative parts of the team.

5.) 01 Nov 2019 09:00:36
its way too early to say that and i also think that Trent brings more to the table right now as a fullback. the defensive experience he is getting now (i think he has also improved in this aspect) will be very useful if/ when he actually moves to midfield.

a composed midfielder with a great passing range, great workrate and great defensive capabilities? sounds good to me.

6.) 01 Nov 2019 09:46:19
I can confirm it was a tongue in cheek comment.

7.) 01 Nov 2019 09:50:48
I think the idea is trent can influence the game much more if he is playing right side of midfield. This would mean that the rb would then be playing more defensive as the rm (trent) would be more attacking.

8.) 01 Nov 2019 12:09:44
Wow, it didn't take people long to forget about Hoever did it?
How about we calm down and let the kids develop at their own pace?

9.) 01 Nov 2019 12:34:15
IB I don’t know who you are talking about, but Hoever it is I’m sure no one has forgotten him.



08 Oct 2019 17:58:29
Hi Ed’s just wanted to ask how come Kane was kept at the club rather than allowing a loan move. Seems bonkers given his progress in league 1 last year?

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - good loan moves are not easy to arrange. The right one wasn't possible.}

1.) 08 Oct 2019 19:01:41
makes sense i thought that Hull was a good option for him with his old manager, do you see him getting any opportunities in the 1st team this season? i know he got a small run out in the league cup but.

2.) 08 Oct 2019 21:40:26
Herbie has more chance of getting me some points than the 'Kane' I have in my fantasy team.




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04 Dec 2019 11:45:55
He has recently signed a new contract which increased his release clause to 80m. Think we should be looking elsewhere.

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30 Nov 2019 11:28:05
I assume we will see the youth players going out on loan.

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25 Nov 2019 16:10:31
I think we’ve got enough quality keepers in our locker to rule out any incomings!

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24 Nov 2019 20:59:02
do you think he's struggled after the injury to get back to his previous form.

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{Ed002's Note - He needs playing time.)



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15 Nov 2019 19:46:21
Send our love ST! Lotta respect for big Joe!

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04 Dec 2019 11:50:58
Thanks Ed, are there any targets that you consider reasonable for that position that we might look at?

Most mentioned on here and in the news are all for astronomical fees.

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of anyone at the moment.}



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02 Dec 2019 20:22:42
not city they have already requested fleetwood.

The Southern Red

{Ed025's Note - whoeVAR liVARpool get they will win it with the help of a dodgy decision which will go their way....why change the habit of a lifetime i say SR..



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21 Nov 2019 16:44:24
Isn’t Lewis injured.

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14 Nov 2019 14:51:00
Given the ages of a lot of our players I think there is plenty of growth!

Plus as we all wait for the Naby of old to burst through this season!

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14 Nov 2019 10:03:55
Agreed Ed, I feel like maintaining an education will help players both on and off the pitch.

I had a friend who was a youth goalkeeper for Portsmouth was signed by Millwall, things didn’t work out and He had to go back to college at 22.

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - it is too easy for them to drop out. It is a shame as they have plenty of spare time to do their studies. You only have to look at the difference between say Eastern European players and British ones. UEFA used to produce a magazine each month and in it they would interview one player. One of the questions was always "who do you think is the most influential person?" or something along those lines. British players would say, always, a sportsman, someone like Tyson or similar. Eastern European would always, and I do mean always, say Nikola Tesla. If you asked every British professional footballer who he was, I doubt you would even get into double figures of the people who know him and what he did. They need to widen their scope and learn about more than just sport.}