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21 Feb 2019 17:31:18
Liverpool are monitoring midfielder Khéphren Thuram (Lillian Thuram's son) at Monaco. He hasn't signed a pro contract yet with Monaco.

Has anyone seen anything of him, or know how highly he is rated? He's a France U21 international, but that's all I know.


1.) 21 Feb 2019 18:12:34
* France U18.

He is just a young prospect who's fathers name is causing some media attention.

from what i have heard he is not considered a top talent!

2.) 21 Feb 2019 18:43:41
Kinda hard to judge a 17 year old unless they're ridiculously talented for their age and already playing senior footie at a decent level.

3.) 21 Feb 2019 21:22:55
Thuram or not Thuram, that is the question 🧐.

4.) 23 Feb 2019 14:21:18
👀 . You're slipping Zed.



31 Jan 2019 17:39:24
I've just read on BBC's deadline day updates that Ben Woodburn isn't going back out on loan.

I find that a bit strange, as surely his minutes will be limited in our first team squad.


1.) 31 Jan 2019 19:50:45
He was doing well training and playing under the Liverpool system of play, at whichever level. Maybe that's what he needs more of, in order to develop and grow rather than go elsewhere, learn a new system and just sit on the bench? Guess it's a decision made by the coaching staff and they think something along these lines.

2.) 31 Jan 2019 20:17:10
He could have a macheda moment for us.

3.) 31 Jan 2019 20:52:58
Klopp said he wouldn't go anywhere unless there were game time guarantees. Rightly so. Woodburn might as well fight for a place in our team, rather than someone else's. Klopp said he got impatient before, so hopefully Ben realises now that loan moves are not beneficial 9 times out of 10. He should stay at Liverpool where he can learn from world class players and coaches.

4.) 31 Jan 2019 21:04:43
I would rather see Woodburn come on for the last 20 minutes of the game than Lallana.

5.) 01 Feb 2019 05:37:24
I think we are anyway short off alternatives to Mane on the left inside-forward role, which is where Woodburn plays from. I am hoping to see him get some minutes off the bench over the rest of the season. Fingers crossed for the lad - if even one of him and Brewster come good over the next 12 months or so, it will be a big win for us as a club.

6.) 01 Feb 2019 09:35:53
Dont see Woodburn or Brewster getting any game time this season. The club look to be taking it slow to get brewster ready for a good preseaon and it seems to be that klopp prefers to have the older players like Sturridge and Lallana in the matchday squads.

If it was up to me if they are training well I would give them a shot off the bench, up to them to take the the chance as at the moment Sturridge and Lallana are not taking there chance from the bench.

7.) 03 Feb 2019 14:51:32
I think Brewster will go on to be a good player for us but I can't see woodburn making it, not good enough IMO.



24 Jan 2019 19:40:32
Corriere dello Sport are reporting that Liverpool have enquired about Brescia's 18 year old midfielder Sandro Tonali. Apparently Roma are interested too and he's supposed to be highly rated.

Anyone or any of the Eds heard anything or know anything about him?


{Ed002's Note - It was a while back and the interest has gone. There has been various levels of interest from several other sides as well.}

1.) 24 Jan 2019 20:24:50
As always, thank you very much Ed002.

2.) 26 Jan 2019 10:02:16
This guy is like Pirlo but better at dribbling.

3.) 26 Jan 2019 11:26:33
Best steer clear then. Pirlo was dreadfully over rated. When his team didn't have the ball they basically had 10 men.

4.) 26 Jan 2019 12:05:09
That’s like saying Henry was overrated because he couldn’t head the ball very well. Not all greats are great everything. Pirlo is the player Jorginho wishes he could be.

{Ed001's Note - depends on which point in Pirlo's career you are referring to. In his early days he was known for running with the ball. At the end of his career when playing deep, he was massively overrated because of what he did when his laziness was masked by having hardworking midfielders doing all the work for him.}

5.) 26 Jan 2019 17:05:30
In my defence Ed001, I don't remember the early part of Pirlo's career! I just saw the last 12 years from when he was in his late 20's, where he stood in the centre circle spraying passes, took set pieces, and then left his team mates to win it back and give it to him. At times it looked like he was deliberately positioning himself to not have to make a tackle! I certainly wouldn't want that player that I saw in this team.

Henry couldn't head the ball very well. But that is not a vital trait for a striker of his ilk. Putting in a bit of effort defensively is a pretty vital trait for a holding midfielder I think!

6.) 27 Jan 2019 20:31:38
Rumour on Twitter from a reliable guy I follow has said we have opened talks with Brescia for this guy.

{Ed002's Note - Certianly Liverpool enquired a while ago - game time will be a major issue.}



30 Dec 2018 20:27:06
I've just read that Liverpool are interested in Trabzonspor's 19 year old Turkish attacking midfielder Abdulkadir Omur. Does anyone on here or the Eds know anything about him? Apparently City want him too.


{Ed002's Note - Trabzonspor's Abdulkadir Omur is subject of sustained interest from Bayern Munich and FC Nürnberg and both were looking to trying to strike some sort of deal for him once he turned 18 but he signed a professional contract with Trabzonspor. Bayern did however make what they considered to be a very significant offer for the player that proved to be unacceptable. Atletico Madrid also made an offer in the summer that would see him stay in Trabzonspor until the summer of 2019 if an agreement could be agreed between the parties - but this included only a small upfront payment and was deemed unacceptable. Benfica, Manchester City, Roma, Arsenal and Monaco are some of the clubs the Turkish club say have watched him but much interest has now drifted away as he would no longer be able to qualify as being home grown away from Turkey. I am not aware of Liverpool interest but suggest if it has come from the Turkish media they have included the club as interest as they always do.}

1.) 30 Dec 2018 20:47:59
Thank you for the detailed response Ed002. With the amount and pedigree of clubs interested suggests that he has talent, but yes, it's the Turkish Newspaper "Fotomac" that has reported it.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}



27 Dec 2018 20:13:21
I've just read that Alberto Moreno is claiming that he has been offered a new contract at Liverpool but he hasn't decided whether to sign it yet. Does anyone know anything about this? Eds? Surely if he has been offered a contact, it would be on severely lower wages. He's only played twice all season.


{Ed002's Note - The wages are of no relevance but the role is to provide cover. The supporters seem to be struggling with all of these €100M players they want as squad players are not viable. If he agrees a new contract fine, else he will be replaced by someone else who will only likely play a handful of games a year.}

1.) 27 Dec 2018 20:37:12
Ed002, thank you so much for your input. I was shocked when I read the article, but I guess it's just because I'd imagined he'd be one of the first out of the door in the summer. Signing players of any quality who are prepared to be backup must be very difficult and any potential incoming left back will be very aware that Robertson will be very hard to shift. I hope you're enjoying the holiday and have a great new year. Thanks again.

{Ed002's Note - Actually I do expect he will go and Liverpool will look elsewhere, perhaps to the likes of Lewis, Gallacher and any other youngsters who are looking like possibilities. Else, the youngsters will know that without a roadmap they stand little chance. There was another kid whose nmame I cannot recall.}

2.) 27 Dec 2018 21:18:42

3.) 27 Dec 2018 20:50:36
Anderson Arroyo by any chance Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - That's the one, thanks.}

4.) 27 Dec 2018 23:03:59
Funny reading this conversation about moreno and robertson. This time a year and a half ago never would i think we have got the best left back in europe.

5.) 28 Dec 2018 00:14:03
I read a different article that didn’t mention anything about a new deal.

More that he was tiered of the cold weather he was unhappy with his treatment and considered moving to Spain. It stated he was free to talk to clubs in January and free to leave in summer.

I can’t see us offering him one as we have a few good youngsters who can play the role of cover for much cheaper.

6.) 28 Dec 2018 01:36:30
We have several academy players like Lewis and gallacher that can step up to replace Moreno. No point wasting money on a backup lb just to play around 7-8 games a season coz Robbo is a machine.

7.) 28 Dec 2018 01:39:42
Jonesred, he's quoted as saying he was offered a new contract.

{Ed001's Note - he has been offered one.}

8.) 28 Dec 2018 02:55:40
Juanma is 20 (? ) but injuries have set back his progress. The others are only 19 so we shouldn't be expecting too much from them.

9.) 28 Dec 2018 04:54:45
Honest question for Ed0001:

Does Klopp's have no faith in any of the youth left backs? Giving Moreno a new contract is just waste of money for a player who contributes zilch and plays 5 times a season. The money, game time and senior football exposure could be used to groom one of the youth players to play second fiddle to Robbo.

{Ed001's Note - the plan is to free up any seen as close from the youth team to go out on loan.}

10.) 28 Dec 2018 05:58:50
Never understood the situation with Moreno. It was obvious a long time ago he was not good enough to be our starting fullback.

So why the snarky interviews now, four and a half years later?

Why was the situation not explained to him a long time, and Moreno not moved on if he didn't like it?

{Ed025's Note - im guessing that nobody would pay the wages he is getting at liverpool R67, he is doing exactly what we all would do mate..

11.) 28 Dec 2018 07:14:49
I think Moreno has done no harm to his stock, he has not been disruptive, worked hard in training and this time last year was our number one left back. I think he will move on in the summer and hope he gets himself a nice new club to play for and plenty of playing time.

12.) 28 Dec 2018 09:34:57
Moreno is a very well liked character around the dressing room apparently and has helped a number of new players settle in.

I do find it slightly odd that we’ve offered him a new contract though.

But what do I know.

13.) 28 Dec 2018 13:05:18
If he goes, then let’s have a youngster step up to cover Robertson. Lewis or Arroyo could make that step.

14.) 28 Dec 2018 19:43:19
We already have 3 players that can cover left back without Moreno.
We definitely don't need to sign a replacement.

{Ed002's Note - Plus some well thought of youngsters.}

15.) 28 Dec 2018 21:28:33
Moreno took unbelievable stick from so called fans as a youngster. Some of you have very short memories. The lad has developed well so pay him his dues and allow him the minutes when possible. On another note I mentioned a while ago an update on the ox and regarding his fitness and physio parent. I've heard today that's klopps update is conservative and could b available earlier.

16.) 28 Dec 2018 23:47:34
If moreno has been offered a contract then I feel lile it'd be because the club feel there are few other viable options out there to bring in as a backup and that the academy players need playing time either thru U23 or on loan.

17.) 31 Dec 2018 09:37:51
I read at the weekend that Van Sarn holt may be available
I would definitely take him as a back up as he scores a lot of goals.
We used to have two grest scoring full backs in Lawler and Lyndsay.

{Ed002's Note - Why would Van Aanholt move to simply provide cover? He has a club chasing him who want him as a starter and if they up their bid they might well get him.}




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15 Mar 2019 11:22:22
Porto in the Quarter Finals. Come on Redmen!




29 Jan 2019 21:56:27
Thank you Rafa. You will always be a messiah.




21 Jan 2019 12:46:36
I've just been reading about Fehnerbahce and their struggles. 19 league titles, and not finished outside the top 4 since 2002 and the lowest ever finish being 10th. They are now struggling in the relegation zone.

The article drifts from explaining that their foreign players are good enough, then how their Turkish players are too old, then how they've had to target younger lesser known players to comply with FFP.

It did not mention until later in the article that six months ago, they appointed a new sporting director. I thought I'd heard that name before. Damien Comolli. I remember when he was at Liverpool plenty of people here including some of the Eds knew he was a bad egg.

Thankfully, we got rid of him before it was too late. He did enough damage. And it appears he's still plying his trade.


{Ed001's Note - it is unreal that he is still getting jobs! He is Inspector Clouseau made real.}

1.) 21 Jan 2019 14:17:14
At least he’s shown that his (lack of) skills are equally transferable across all different leagues 😂.

2.) 21 Jan 2019 14:51:54
Ed01, he prolly was the one who signed the likes of Andre Ayew and Matthieu Valbuena, both who are well over the hill. I guess he use "stats" from 5 years ago, to convince the club to sign them. How he gets jobs still? Well, you can always brandish working for LFC and Spurs (even tho you got disgracefully sacked) as a calling card and some sucker club will take you on. As they say, "A sucker is born everyday".

{Ed001's Note - he was certainly a big part of most of our poor signings like Downing.}

3.) 21 Jan 2019 15:41:19
What about Andy Carroll and Charlie Adam Ed001? What really confuses me with those two is that i wouldn’t have thought someone like Kenny would go for players with such a poor attitude and with so much baggage without some nudging from Comolli.

{Ed001's Note - their stats were excellent according to Comolli, though I am sure he will claim he had nothing to do with it, as he only ever takes the credit for successes!}

4.) 21 Jan 2019 16:27:54
Kinda surprised Comolli loved Adam's stats. I'm pretty sure the Scottish Alonso (lol) regularly finished matches with appallingly low pass completion in the second half of the season with Blackpool because he bought the media hype about himself and kept trying Hollywood balls all of the time, even when they weren't on.

Maybe Comolli saved his spreadsheets in January and stopped scouting him?

Downing might've been okay if we'd had a striker who was fully fit (unlike Carroll) and not suspended for a third of the season (unlike Suarez) for him to cross to.

{Ed001's Note - a lot of Adam's stats were based around set pieces, which had created lots of opportunities.}

5.) 21 Jan 2019 17:08:01
The reason I posted this is to really appreciate the contrast of Liverpool now Vs Liverpool in the dark times when Comolli was sporting director. Those times weren't all that long ago and shows that the club are really making rapid progress behind the scenes.

To completely ruin a club as historically successful as Fenerbahce, just shows how inept the man is at his role, and a complete fraud.

On the bright side, Manchester United are looking for a sporting director, aren't they? We can only dream :)

6.) 21 Jan 2019 17:35:59
Prolly used the same spreadsheets and stats. metrics to help put Fernebahce into the hole they are currently in.



20 Jan 2019 16:39:02
Not just Liverpool related, but related to the whole of league football in general. I just thought I'd ask here as Ed002 is the most knowledgeable person I know of who could answer it.

It was discussed on Soccer Saturday but no-one knew the answer. When someone gets fined by the FA (e. g. Troy Deeney getting fined £20,000 for criticising a referee - which seems a bit harsh), where does the money go? Does it go to charity? Grass roots football? Or does it just line the pockets of already wealthy people?

Surely the FA should be open about where this money goes.

Thanks in advance Ed002, or anyone else has any information about the subject.


{Ed002's Note - The FA are open about it, it simply goes in to the pot as income. I answered this a couple of weeks ago.}

1.) 20 Jan 2019 17:16:57
Thanks for taking the time Ed002. I didn't see the post a couple of weeks ago.

{Ed002's Note - No problem.}

2.) 20 Jan 2019 21:57:22
It always makes me uncomfortable when organisations use fines to subsidise income. It’s so open to abuse when it’s in their interests financially to fine someone.

{Ed0333's Note - same principle with councils when they issue tickets for speeding and parking. Hate that.



19 Jan 2019 14:18:19
Is that 2 own goals in the last 2 games for Conor Coady?

We need to bring him back. He's the new Jamie Carragher.


1.) 19 Jan 2019 14:34:09
Would make sense to in my opinion, another factor to take into consideration is the need to fill the english quota after the possible departures of Clyne, Milner, Lallana and Sturridge.

2.) 19 Jan 2019 14:39:36
AW, he’s a championship player. What on earth are you suggesting?

3.) 19 Jan 2019 17:15:49
He isn't a championship player lowel. 8 think I'm right in saying wolves are a premier league team who are one of the best of the rest. I'm not saying we should sign him but to call him a championship player is unfair.

4.) 19 Jan 2019 19:40:17
So we should sign a player just to fill a quota instead of seeing if he is good enuff to play for us. Coady may not be a Championship player BUT he is at his level right now and needs to do more in order to make the next jump cos right now, he would be 5th choice at LFC right now.

5.) 19 Jan 2019 19:46:28
He’s the captain of a mid-table premier league team who have just been promoted and, all things considered, been very good. Coady has performed very well, he’s comfortable with the ball at his feet and is a leader. I’m sure he’d jump at the chance to join liverpool, i don’t see how he is a championship player and why it is such a bad idea?

6.) 19 Jan 2019 20:19:22
AW, you think Coady is good enuff for LFC. Others disagree and think it is a bad idea for him to sign cos he is not better than the 4 CB's at the club. That is how debate actually works.

7.) 19 Jan 2019 21:07:52
I don’t remember saying debate wasn’t welcome RedWolf? I was simply stating that calling him a championship quality player is unfair and untrue. Also i do not believe you should sign players just to fill a quota (although quotas do need filling by their nature) i do genuinely think he is good enough to play for us. I’m not really sure what you’re getting at, some of your posts are beginning to baffle me.

8.) 19 Jan 2019 23:45:52
Liked him at Liverpool and glad he's done so well in his career but if he wasn't a Scouser no one on this site would want to be buying him.




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20 Mar 2019 20:13:31
Hold on. Is Firminosteeth back, or have I taken too many painkillers?




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18 Mar 2019 19:52:48
I wouldn't worry about it just yet. Mane is happy at Liverpool.




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18 Mar 2019 17:19:56
Thanks Ed002. It's the first that I've seen about him. Surely nobody with any sense would pay such an obscene amount of money for someone with so little senior experience.

Reece-Oxford of West Ham springs to mind. He had an amazing debut at 16 against Arsenal (also MOTM if I remember correctly) and looked good in his other appearances, but he's nowhere near their first team now.

Jack Robinson is another good example.

10 appearances? A lot of it depends on the mentality of the person. Lots of players (not just defenders) have had really bright starts to their career and tailed off because they didn't have the right mindset to play at the highest level and to keep improving.


{Ed002's Note - No, I would not expect anyone to be paying anything like such an amount.}



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18 Mar 2019 14:24:58
He only has 10 senior appearances. I'd think we'd like to see a bit more of him at senior level before making such an investment.


{Ed002's Note - Francisco Ferreira was one of the three young CBs Liverpool looked at in 2017 with a view to taking one in January 2018. He is priced in order to turn any potential buyers away, such as Manchester City, West Ham and Borussia Dortmund who have also shown a little interest and watched him in the B side over the past 18 months.}



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15 Mar 2019 21:39:39
Fabinho 10th? Get real.





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17 Mar 2019 17:16:56
Least excited? I'd have to say James Milner, and I'm so happy that I was proved wrong. I thought he was bit past it, and I'd lost faith in Brendan Rodgers by that point.




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17 Mar 2019 11:34:01
cloud in Newcastle has a silver lining?




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16 Mar 2019 18:58:42
Sorry Irish. I wasn't aware of that.

Is there extra time? If so, then having to play 120 minutes is the best to hope for.




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16 Mar 2019 18:50:58
James who?




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16 Mar 2019 18:44:20
All of mine didn't live up to expectation.

Harry Kewell - he was amazing at Leeds. People were labelling him as the left footed Beckham.

Joe Cole - I couldn't believe how bad that signing worked out to be so wrong.

Phil Babb - Had an amazing world cup with Ireland before he signed - at least we signed John Scales in the same window who turned out to be decent.

El-Hadji Diouf - Likewise, had an amazing world cup and looked to be a complete world beater, but turned out to be a horrible person, a cheat and not very good at football. I couldn't think of anyone that I dislike more in football. He makes Ramos and Neymar look like saints.

Stewart Downing - How could someone with such a quality delivery end the season with 0 assists? I know we signed him to supply Andy Carroll, but I couldn't believe how many times we substituted Carroll for Downing and Vice Versa. They were hardly on the field at the same time.

I guess I should stop getting my hopes up about players. It might all be my fault.