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29 May 2018 04:31:48
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1.) 29 May 2018 06:19:17
Very very pleased, not because I’ve seen much of him, but because we finally have a proper alternative to Hendo at no.6 at last. I think this gives us a huge amount of flexibility to control games we might have struggled in in the past.

As a bonus he can also cover effectively for Trent.

If we can get in Fekir now to cover wide attacking positions (and AM), and can bring in a top GK I think we are 95% of the way there.

I think this is a big big statement that Klopp is positioning to be more tactically flexible, and learning that closing out scrappy games in the Pl is a critical part of winning the title.

Excited already for the new season.

2.) 29 May 2018 08:53:36
Yep I'm thrilled about this one as well. Not just a replacement for but an upgrade on Emre. Along with Keita and Fekir (or whoever) this will add great depth and flexibility to or midfield. The English lads and Gini will have a job just to get into the team now. He's young, versatile, hard-working, scores goals, not going to the World Cup and of course he knows Bobby from Brazil and who could think of a better guy to help you get settled into life on Merseyside? Great signing and a lovely surprise to wake up to this morning. I really think he'll help us make that step up to the next level.




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09 Jun 2018 00:38:24
Fekir had his medical for last couple of days but Liverpool medic team see some issues may be rated to an old injury with his knee. Not sure if this will derail the deal though or is just delaying it.


{Ed002's Note - Or perhaps it is just the money he wants?}

1.) 09 Jun 2018 01:18:41
So his representatives getting greedy huh? Seems they will be pushing for a Real or Barcelona move in a season or two. He has been offered a very good wage package which is way more than what some of our consistent performers make, so why the demands? Hate players who let their representatives do all the dirty work and then hide behind their backs claiming they were the innocent ones all along.

2.) 09 Jun 2018 01:25:08
Wee, I hope not. He is injured atm isn't he? That's what it is.

3.) 09 Jun 2018 01:27:19
So his entourage are the ones actually delaying the deal?

4.) 09 Jun 2018 06:31:52
No he isn’t injured PH, he played the other night.

5.) 09 Jun 2018 07:36:02
Hi Ed is it more likely he is demanding more money then mate, and not a knee issue?

{Ed025's Note - money would be my guess..

6.) 09 Jun 2018 07:36:44
What's so wrong with a players agent wanting to get the best deal they can for the player? The deal will happen when it happens. Its called negotiations. We already got 1 big deal over the line which is more than most big clubs can say. No need for panic stations just yet or making assumptions about the players character.

{Ed025's Note - agreed mark..

7.) 09 Jun 2018 00:43:54
I would think monies had been discussed before clubs do a medical? Or the agreed terms can be changed?
Please enlighten us.

{Ed002's Note - There will always be some issues to be resolved. Some straggling bits and bobs about image rights and the like.}

8.) 09 Jun 2018 01:02:48
1st post here. Ed002, if I could ask a question based on your reply.

If fekir is holding out for more money, would that maybe leave the club with different targets in regards to gk? So, if it is going to take more money for fekir's contract on top of the fee, will that reduce the contract of gk and maybe lower the cost of the actual agreement with that club?

I understand if you don't want to answer. Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - It has no relation to goalkeepers.}

9.) 09 Jun 2018 02:33:20
Ed02, serious question. Wouldn’t all the finances including wages etc. be ironed out before the medical?

{Ed002's Note - Not necessarily.}

10.) 09 Jun 2018 02:43:56
Oh no we didn’t need this. I knew something would go wrong. think it will be resolved eds or is it dead in the water.?

{Ed002's Note - Unless there is a major concern over anything to do with the medical or Lyon get miffed with Liverpool and step back, then I don't know of any reason why it can't be resolved. To be honest, if the Liverpool fans were not so obsessed with Twitter, the fat kid from Bolton and promises that it would be wrapped up within 24 hours coming from social media on Wednesday, then it would simply run through to completion like any other transfer.}

11.) 09 Jun 2018 03:20:39
Ah the plot thickens. cheers Ed.

12.) 09 Jun 2018 04:37:48
Is that correct Ed002? Do his wage demands differ to what we’ve offered?

{Ed002's Note - I have not mention "wage" demands at all but you may well find that the financial aspects are not yet closed out.}

13.) 09 Jun 2018 08:59:58
I have the same issues with my image rights
Only difference is that I’m so ugly, I have to pay for my own image l rights 😂

Serious not though, you’re totally correct regarding twitter and the media as a whole, people just get sucked into the whole media frenzy.

Anyway, nice one Ed002, your input and info is invaluable.

14.) 09 Jun 2018 11:38:21
Good heavens, can people just calm down over this Fekir business and let thing play out? SHEESH!

15.) 09 Jun 2018 12:37:08
I don’t post often so just wanted to make a point, I only really follow Ed02 for reliable info. On Twitter you will have hundreds of people given false info causing a frenzy. We even have a prominent female journalist who appears on kfc tv saying it’s a knee issue. So I say to all the people who come on lfc rumours please follow the Ed’s for reliable info (especially Ed02) and don’t bother with itk’s/ journalists as they only feed on scraps.



08 Jun 2018 04:57:58
Will all the big buys, keita fabinio and now fekir hopefully. If are still targeting Alison and wide player Shaq or Simon plus an CB. I would think one of our current players is departing for bif money. I would guess Mane or Salah to real m or barca.


1.) 08 Jun 2018 05:22:30
You are right salah is going to madrid and mane to barca. beacuase there is nothing known as strengthening the SQAUD and of course the owners are big fat liars after making official statements about backing klopp and obviously nobody values Klopp and they think he's crazy spending to much money so to preserve sanity we need to sell. who the hell klopp thinks he is asking to buy so many damn players without selling.
and obviously the expectation still is to win the league!

2.) 08 Jun 2018 06:11:20
I know Ed002 tells us that the fee for Couts is not what's reported, but humour me. Keita, Fabinho, Fekir 148.5m. Couts, 142m. Why do we need to sell?

3.) 08 Jun 2018 06:28:07
Thumbs down please explain? I stated numbers, not an opinion.

4.) 08 Jun 2018 07:01:44
I think it’s the numbers you’ve used, Burkey.

Ed002 explained a while back that there’s so many more costs involved in a transfer than just the fees. Those fees you have stated will probably be nearer £200m or more than the £148.5m you have mentioned.

Hence the thumbs down?

5.) 08 Jun 2018 08:03:35
Which is why I said the fees are not what the headline is, as ED002 has said. I can only go with the numbers we see, which is why I said humour me.

6.) 08 Jun 2018 08:10:44
I got it, Burkey. Clearly others didn't :)

7.) 08 Jun 2018 10:10:19
For a start burkey wages? Fact squad is capped at 25. don't get so upset over a few thumbs down. also no sign of whether we're dealing in pound Euro or marshmallows from your post. So basically all the things eds go nuts about when money is brought up at all.



03 Feb 2018 13:25:06
Eds and reds who will be or is better Kante or Keita.


1.) 03 Feb 2018 14:59:15
Kante by a long way.

2.) 03 Feb 2018 15:00:07
At What? Different players.

Ones a better passer and ones a better tackler.

3.) 03 Feb 2018 15:23:04
The two are entirely different types of player.

4.) 03 Feb 2018 15:50:50
They play the same position with totally different styles.

Kante is a ball winner with a hugely under rated passing range who is great at running with the ball. His finishing is atrocious though.

Keita is rash in the tackle, but has an equally good passing range, and is just as good at dribbling. He is a much better finisher though.

They're actually not that different in their style of play aside from their mentalities. Kante is very defensively minded and always looking to stop the opposition breaking; more of a ball winner. Meanwhile Keita has a burning desire to get into goal scoring positions, and is a good goal scorer because of that. Both play box to box midfield roles, but they have very different attitudes to the game.

I'll have to say Kante is better based on what I've seen of them both though. He is 4 years older though.

5.) 03 Feb 2018 15:59:11
Let’s wait and see how Keita copes in PL, unknown quantity over here at the moment. Kanye has proven he’s a top player Keita needs to come and do the same.

6.) 03 Feb 2018 16:10:33
Kanye’s a bit more of a gold digger type though, all about the money. He’s got potential though, if he gets his head down he could touch the sky.

7.) 03 Feb 2018 16:16:26
Kanye 😂

My first line was supposed to say "totally different mentalities". Their style is very similar.

8.) 03 Feb 2018 16:22:03
Not very similar styles, both are midfielders, black and although slight In stature are quite str By. Apparently this seems to be enough to draw this obscene comparison (it’s not just you it seems to be a popular thing)

9.) 03 Feb 2018 16:39:51
I disagree Barnes. They're stature is nothing alike. Kante is about 2 inches shorter and quite stocky, whereas Keita is actually pretty gangly. Kante has a low centre of gravity which makes him strong on the ball, whereas Keita's aggression is what makes him strong. He hits people at speed which is why he is so rash. If he mistimes the tackle he is hurtling too quickly to avoid clattering people. Kante tends to get himself in between the opposition and the ball in a fair more composed way.

Both players chase the ball down all over the pitch though, both like getting stuck in (albeit with diffent approaches), both like to run at the opposition and beat players, and both like to play through or over the top balls in behind. The only style difference I see is that Keita has poor tackling technique, and Kante has poor striking technique.

The main difference in them as players is that Keita will get to the final third and his attack minded approach means he tries to get into the box. However Kante's defence minded approach see's him sit just outside the box waiting to snap into a tackle if the opposition break.

Physical appearance doesn't come into it. They are different heights, different builds, and don't even look like each other 😂 they're just both high energy box to box midfielders who are great on the ball.

10.) 03 Feb 2018 17:07:27
Kante is better but Keita has the potential to be even better.

{Ed0333's Note - That’s a very powerful statement Vakpa, some would say delusional. What do you base that on?

11.) 03 Feb 2018 18:00:36
Like comparing Harry Kane and Kacey Keller.

12.) 03 Feb 2018 18:37:33
I agree with that VakPa although better than Kante and you would have to be world class. Keita will get assists and goals and carry the ball forward better than Kante. Whether he can get close to kante's ball winning ability and positional play are the big questions for me.

I think he might well get sent off a few times while he adapts his game to the pace of the premier league. At 22 we should all hope he will be as good as Kante with some added end product.

13.) 03 Feb 2018 20:09:11
Keita is far superior and 5 years younger than Kante.



22 Nov 2017 04:55:00
From curent set I will only keep TAA Gomez Matip and Robertson. get whatever we get for Clyne Lovren Klavan And Moreno Add 100m to this and buy 4 very good defenders.


1.) 22 Nov 2017 05:40:34
the one defender we are looking to get costs 70+m, 100 million + money from your options will get us nothing in todays marker.
My solution promote youth it will surely reap benefits, it is the way to go. everything else probably will be just waste of money in my opinion.
i cannot see a 70 million defender fluffing his lines and giving penalties it will be absolute carnage on these pages. and defenders we are looking at are prone to brain fades.

2.) 22 Nov 2017 06:59:57
Everyone except Gomez, TAA and Robertson. Starting to question Hendo’s quality in his current position as well. He is better than Wiji in the more attacking/ b2b role so a DM should be brought in as well. Defensive spending has to be the priority.

3.) 22 Nov 2017 07:33:00
If Benson is not holding to captain armband, I think he will not be anywhere near 1st team. He will be ordinary player like Joe allen.

4.) 22 Nov 2017 08:22:13
The three midfield players are not good enough and cause the pressure to mount on a poor defence, we are only good when in the other teams half of the pitch.
Red Tag.

5.) 22 Nov 2017 09:38:08
They were good enough in the first half. The team as a whole stopped playing. I think a def midfielder to cover the back line is essential. Could be wrong but what about taa? His distribution is immense from deep and he might learn the game without the pressure of right back in that backline.



26 Sep 2017 05:27:00
Would we consider Jamie carrager as defence coach and to instill organization skills.


1.) 26 Sep 2017 05:59:34
Considering on how he is as a person i think he will fall out with the most players.
Good players are hardly ever great coaches.
I think Carra would be good motivator but he wasn't really the best of defenders. he did put his body on the line when he cocked it up though. but he did cock it up a lot.

2.) 26 Sep 2017 07:21:19
Give Klopp more time to get the defence organised.
He's done an amazing job on our attacking, he needs to be given time to get the defending organised.
He's got until the end of next season for me 🤝.

{Ed001's Note - people just expect too much of Klopp, imo. They expect him to wave a magic wand and fix everything immediately. Long term solutions take time to implement, short term fixes can be done quickly, but they never last for long and have to be bodged up repeatedly. Klopp always tries to look to the long term and he should be applauded for that in this day and age.}

3.) 26 Sep 2017 08:22:17
post of the day, it really is not easy to take into the isea of how we expected to play, with time all will be better.

4.) 26 Sep 2017 08:43:53
Ak, i can only assume you never saw Carragher play mate. Because if you had, you'd know he was probably one of the best centre backs of the Premier League era.

In my opinion, only Rio Ferdinand and Vincent Kompany have been better because they had pace on and off the ball; something Carragher never had. Carragher was a proper hard man of a centre back. As good as the likes of Vidic, Terry, Adams etc all day long.

He scored the odd own goal because he was constantly throwing his body in front of everything, and he got sent off occassionally when his passion got the better of him, but he is the personification of everything we lack right now.

Heart, passion, fight, aggression, leadership, organisation. He is as much a legend as Steven Gerrard for me. Maybe more so as Carragher never tried to leave and retired having never played for anyone but Liverpool.

5.) 26 Sep 2017 09:12:44
Ron, it could and probably should be argued then that Klopp has had a lot of time to improve the defense. Although fixing it may be a longer action improving it should have happened at the very least after the numerous windows and over two seasons of coaching.

6.) 26 Sep 2017 09:19:14
Sometimes people like Carra, who read the game so intuitively, can struggle to impart their knowledge on others who simply don't have that mental ability to see theme game their way. I don't know if Carra has that knack as a coach, but seems to me he is well enjoying life as a pundit!

7.) 26 Sep 2017 09:29:02
Doesn't make him a good defensive coach though Adam.
If we are to get in a defensive coach then you seek out the best available one, not an ex player and certainly not someone who has never coached.
Good players hardly ever make good coaches, it's probably the equivalent of winning the lottery twice, 2 completely different skill sets.

8.) 26 Sep 2017 09:38:28
The fact that he didn't take second best and pushed for keita on the understanding it would be signing next year. When he could very well be sacked in November is testament to his great running of this club.

{Ed002's Note - What a ridiculous thing to say.}

9.) 26 Sep 2017 09:45:48
Nowhere have i said on this thread, or ever that Carragher would be a good defensive coach. I don't even think he is a good pundit.

He sold out. All his football knowledge and experience, but he'd rather pocket dirty money working for Murdoch, making deliberately ridiculous and controversial statements, prioritising viewing figures over his own credibility.

I hate how ex-players get a fast track to the top of coaching. Carragher and Neville are Slys answer to dumb and dumber. They keep you entertained to distract you away from how dismal their analysis actually is.

Carragher was still a world class defender though. I'll argue that with anyone.

10.) 26 Sep 2017 10:12:56
TopBusiness i can sort of see what you mean. I guess your point is that Klopp has thought about the long term interests by agreeing to get Keita on a pre-agreed transfer and wait a year, when he might not be here when Keita signs; than go out and get a quick fix to save his own skin but damage the clubs chances of signing a better player in the future.

However their is a logical fallacy there. Why is a long term option considered better than an instant fix, for example? Would it not be better to try and win the league now, than next year?

The other factor to this is that Keita may well have been our player if Klopp hadn't tapped him up and angered RBL.

I understand your opinion, but there are definitely holes in it. Klopp is doing okay and we are improving as a team. I wouldn't over egg his achievements so far though. Being overly positive just attracts people who are overly negative.

{Ed001's Note - instant fixes are never better MKS, building for the long term is how you sustain success, rather than just have a one off win.}

11.) 26 Sep 2017 10:13:01
I like klopp and I'm prepared to give him as much time as he needs but let's be fair he's made 4 signings to bolster our defence and it's no better. Either karius or ward needs to be playing in my opinion this season and if they're not good enough we need a goal keeper who is. But until we address out defence or lack of it a goal keeper is the least of our problems as even de gea would concede goals with our defence. I don't get how our defence is so bad? Is it the system we play? If so it needs tweaking! Otis it our coaching? Something needs to change.

12.) 26 Sep 2017 10:58:32
And then keita goes to United, we sign plan b. It doesn't go to plan and we slaughter klopp and the club like we do about every outher target we have missed out on who has been a success.

13.) 26 Sep 2017 11:08:32
i have watched enough of carra to say he was never a top class defender. LFC in his heart and soul? yes. passionate? yes. put his body on the line? yes. But top defender in the ranks of ferdinand, vidic, adams hell no. don't have to put a red tint on everything MK.
carra was great for us carried our defense for more than a decade too . Legend for the club. he was weak in air for starters, he read the game well but he was beaten for pace every time. too many last ditch tackles. not very great on the ball couldn't use his left at all. if it weren't for his passion and commitment to the cause and just digging in and putting his body on the line he would have not made it. Kudos to him for making use of what he had and utmost respect for holding our defense for a good decade but calling him the best defender of premier league era is red tinted, i mean LFC themselves had better defenders than him at the club (hyppia) and nowhere near the like of our defensive greats ( hansen, gillispie)

14.) 26 Sep 2017 11:27:20
He was great in the air. I'm now getting the impression you're making assumptions, this one based on his height. He was also very good on the ball. So much so that he nearly ended up playing in midfield. It is a myth that he couldn't play football.

There is nothing red tinted about my views on Carragher. He was the mainstay of our defence through out it's years of European success under Rafa. Hyypia was great, but Carragher was better.

Ferdinand is the best centre back i saw in my life time so Carragher obviously won't compare to him. But Vidic and Adams were just the same as Carragher. Warrior type centre backs who could play more than they were given credit for, but lacked a bit in pace so struggled against truly world class strikers like Torres who got Vidic sent off more than once. They were less Rolls Royce, more Land Rover. They always showed up and gave it everything to a very good standard.

We all dream of a team of Carraghers for a reason mate!

15.) 26 Sep 2017 11:15:00
I agree Ed. And I'm definitely not saying you are wrong TB. Just putting the other side of the coin out there.

The problem with constantly signing young players to build for the future is that we keep losing them as soon as they get into their prime years. I have to say though, Mane, Salah, Coutinho and Firmino are going to love playing with each other. I hope they all play tonight. They are potentially as good as any other front line in Europe for me. So hopefully that makes them all want to stay!

16.) 26 Sep 2017 11:45:22
HAving all the football knowledge in the world doesn't mean you can make some players better, if we gave lovren et al the best training in the world who's to say he won't still lose his head mid game and make odd decision making? Is decision making something you guys think can be improved or is it natural? (Genuinely asking because I don't know if it's something that can be improved a great deal)

17.) 26 Sep 2017 12:07:07
Ok i think you are just being hardy here mate. carra was never good in air, and he could never use is left which affected his ball playing ability. i am not questioning his status for LFC or how he was the mainstay of our defense which is a fact, he is a legend, but i won't just give him what he didn't have. He wasnt good in air, and gave away a lot of fouls dealing with aerial balls. of course he didn't make it easy for attackers to win those balls all for his tenacity to just be there and make it as difficlut as possible but he ended up always conceding fouls. he was tenacious and positionaly aware and could judge danger but he has his limitations as i cited.
As you say he wasnt the and for me he wasnt better than hyppia.
legend yes warrior yes, best defender in epl after ferdinand nope.
yes we dream a team of carra's for his commitment and fight and passion, awareness and mental strength, i am not sure we want a team of carra's for his footballing ability.

18.) 26 Sep 2017 12:27:30
I'll agree to disagree. I think your views on him may have been altered by how the media portrayed him though. He was one of the best in Europe in his prime, never mind England.

19.) 26 Sep 2017 12:39:13
Carraghers performance in the Champions League final from the 45th minute onwards is to this day one of the best performance I have seen.

Gerrard gets the praise for that game but for me it was Carra who won it.

20.) 26 Sep 2017 13:13:20
Totally agree with ed01, klopp is trying to build and has a long term vision. That, as a liverpool fan, makes me very happy. Liverpool September has been called "a low" for us and I think that really says a lot about how far the club has come since klopp's arrival. We lost two games and drew two games, something that every team does in a season. It is hardly the end of the world although it was enough for some fans to call for klopp's head! Just goes to show how people's expectations have gone up.

21.) 26 Sep 2017 13:53:40
Absolutely agree to the fullest mk. Carra was pure class at cb. I think he was definitely a world class cb in his peak.

I'm not knocking him but it is a funny fact, liverpool were playing spurs once at the lane and carragher had scored more goals for spurs than anyone else on the pitch! I think it just goes to show how he never gave up and always fought to the end. I love the guy.

The only reason Gerrard was going to leave (for chelsea) is because he was being threatened by gangsters and was being intimidated. He didn't want to leave the club he loves but was understandably worried. Apparently he was at a family bbq and his uncle introduced him to this guy (some underworld figure) Gerrard told him his problem and it never happened again. Whoever that guy was, we liverpool fans should be very grateful as we went on to win the European cup.

{Ed001's Note - that is not true Superred91 - he was not in fear of his life if he stayed, he just wanted the move. He was in more fear after deciding he wanted to leave than before. Gerrard wanted to work with Mourinho, he wanted to go and win Premier League titles and he wanted the huge pay raise on offer from Chelsea. It was nothing to do with gangsters or who his missus was knocking off on the side or any of those stories that have gone round. Football was behind the decision.}

22.) 26 Sep 2017 14:12:56
I'm sometimes a bit OTT with my judgement of who is world class. Fair enough and it definitely is red tinted glasses, I'm aware of that.

Jamie Carragher WAS world class. No doubt, totally agree with MK.
Sami Hypia was also world class.
Danny Agger was not far behind.

23.) 26 Sep 2017 14:44:51
I'm fully behind Klopp and, barring maybe Pochettino, can't think of another manager I'd want at Liverpool. However isn't the defence the first thing most managers would fix. And my memory may not be great but was our defence this bad when he took over? I have seen no improvement in that department in his 2 years. I appreciate many say the right players haven't been there for him and he won't do quick fixes- but what would we call Klavan or the loan of Caulker? My worry is if it's taken this long and the defence is still this bad how much longer is it going to take to identify the correct players, sign them and improve it. How much ground are we going to by to lose and how many other star players will get unsettled and decide to move on to greener pastures?




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12 Jan 2019 06:22:45
So was it a better option to keep Clyne as fullback cover and let Moreno leave on free or peanuts.
Who would have been a better backup.




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30 May 2018 19:24:31
Leno and Reina to replace our 4 keepers.




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09 May 2018 15:12:03
Our current fwd options.

Bobby, ings solanke origi and struds.

I think only Bobby is assured for being with us next season.
Of the above I would keep origi as backup
1 he has pace.
2 he is relatively young but has good playing experience
3 he still has upside to full fill and grow.
4 klopp likes him

If not then we should buy another centre fwd with above attributes.




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04 May 2018 09:44:42
Yes like bernado Silva for city.

We need at least 3 wide Fwd and 2 capable strikers.
We have 3 of 5 And ings.

We play approx 45 to 50 games a season.
If u play 2/ 3 u still play 30 games.




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24 Apr 2018 04:34:02
Reina is available on free.





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05 Feb 2019 07:17:23
Change to last year mane Bobby Sarah

Miller/ wiji fab hendo behind them.




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01 Feb 2019 09:09:39
Duncan was also wanted by one of German clubs.




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08 Jan 2019 07:43:11
So squad palyers to be replaced

Migs Clyne Moreno origi and strudd out and 5 players in.

Wilson should be one need other 4.

Backup keeper backup full backs and backup forwards.




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08 Jan 2019 07:38:33
Here is our 2 starting 11s if everything is fit and before Clyne went

TAA VVD Gomes Robo
Fab Hendo
Firm Salah mane

Clyne Matip lovren moreno
Shaq Milner Keita
Original strudd ox

So we have 22 internationals but
Prob 5 to 6 need replacing now.

It's just that many vwere injured.




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05 Jul 2018 05:33:29
It's Barcelona keeper.