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1.) 20 Jun 2015 23:39:35
I wouldn't rule out the illuminati.



31 Jan 2014 11:36:22
The Guardian (no less) reporting that the redevelopment plans are moving forward apace.
Fingers crossed, there could be real progress this year, it all looks good to go if and when the demolition is done.
Only two owners, of four houses, still holding out.
Is that the two buy-to-let landlords that were supposedly going to sue the Council / LFC?
Maybe, just maybe, there will be spades in the ground before 2014 is out?

The Juicer



28 Dec 2013 11:16:29
Aspas out / on loan in January?
Heard anything ed001 or 002?

The Juicer

{Ed001's Note - not that I am aware of, it would seem highly unlikely considering our lack of options up top.}

1.) I too was seeking the views of the eds on aspas, if u don't think he will go what is his future then? Will his playing time now gradually increase? He wasn't playing before when fit despite an early goal spree in preseason so are we going to give him time and a chance and is he willing to be patient?

{Ed001's Note - it is still early days for him, I expect him to get a few more chances over the course of the season, but he was bought for the long term. I am told he is being worked hard to increase his strength, as there is a feeling he is too weak at the moment. I would think that will help him a lot, as I do agree that he seems far too weak at the moment and is easily knocked off the ball.}



08 Nov 2013 11:10:34
Looking like Sterling out on loan to Spain ed002?
One out, one in? {Ed002's Note - I understand that a loan is being considered as he wants more playing time. As to whether or not he will be moving to Spain I don't know. Options of a move to an EPL side are very limited.}

The Juicer

1.) 08 Nov 2013 12:05:21
I don't know if it happens very often but do Dutch sides ever show an interest in loaning in young English players? Its a great league for young players to develop in.

YNWAdam {Ed002's Note - Dutch clubs take players on loan as do clubs of other countries. I suspect the Championship might make a more likely destination.}

2.) 08 Nov 2013 12:46:32
If that is the case Ed, I'd like to see him at QPR. It is the club he started his career at, and its flying high in the league. My main reason though is because of who is the manager. Harry Redknapp has this incredible ability to bring the best out of wingers. Bale, Townsend and Lennon being the best examples. I mean if he can make Lennon play well, he can get Sterling firing! Any chance we could see some interest from QPR as they look to maintain their title push?

YNWAdam {Ed002's Note - I really have no idea - the world does not revolve around a Liverpool kiddie.}

3.) 08 Nov 2013 16:54:33
Out of interest Ed002, why is a loan to an EPL side unlikely? {Ed002's Note - As I said, options of a move to an EPL side are very limited - many who might consider the kid are already covered as their loan slots are taken up.}

4.) 08 Nov 2013 18:25:42
Ah, thanks Ed. There was me thinking it was something heinous!



21 Oct 2013 11:12:47
Heard anything on Derby County's reported interest in taking Andre Wisdom on loan?
And will he go to play centre back (his best position)? {Ed002's Note - It is likely the loan will happen. I don't know where he will be used.}

The Juicer

1.) 21 Oct 2013 12:05:51
Would this have to wait until January Eds? I don't really know how these loan windows work in the Championship.

YNWAdam {Ed001's Note - Derby can take him on an emergency loan for up to 3 months.}




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09 Feb 2018 07:12:58
Morning all.
I'd like to ask the ed/ s and Reds what they make of Klopp's assertion that "Liverpool played it cool in the transfer market (January) as it would have taken crazy money".
It seems to me that point has passed already and the genie is out of the bottle.
If the club wants a player, should they do what they need to make it happen?
The transfer market is not going to suddenly realign itself to past levels?

It's not to say that there can't still be value in the market - Liverpool have hit pay dirt with Salah - but have we got to a point where risk v reward has become too inhibitive?

The Juicer

{Ed001's Note - how can anyone give an opinion on this without any knowledge of what the prices were that were being asked? Do you know the amounts? If so I will have some interest in your opinion on it, if not it will be just a bunch of ignorant people shouting about something none of us actually have any idea about.}

1.) 10 Feb 2018 14:46:00
Klopp is probably referring to the pc money. People see we have made a lot on the pc deal and may have charged inflated prices. They may also see lfc willing to spend 75mil on Vvd and think we are making rash purchases. But, like ed01 says, we don't know what prices were knocked about so it's hard to say.

We have seen throughout the modern game, every few years there is a game changer in terms of fees. Roberto baggio, shearer, pogba and Neymar. It generally takes a couple of years for the market to settle down and I for one am glad we didn't blow 200 mil on two players in January. Let's wait until summer and see what's what.



22 Jan 2018 12:58:07
What sad news that Jimmy Armfield has passed away.
A very knowledgable football man and it was always a pleasure to listen to him on the radio.
He never had a bad word to say about anyone but he was always warm and gracious about Liverpool, and Everton too actually.

The Juicer

1.) 22 Jan 2018 16:29:00
I loved him on the radio. Rip.



04 Jan 2018 14:59:24
Here's an interesting conundrum - when and where would you start Van Dijk?
He's obviously been bought to go in the first XI, so it's a matter of when and not if.
The Everton game tomorrow - a cup match, Liverpool at home and may see most of the possession so Everton would look to hit on the counter or set pieces, so VVD could go well?
Let him bed in and possibly away at Swansea instead?

The Juicer

1.) 04 Jan 2018 15:02:08
Man City Game.

2.) 04 Jan 2018 15:13:11
I have been told he will be involved in some way or another tomorrow.

3.) 04 Jan 2018 15:17:06
He cost £75m. He better be starting after a week of training! It's not like he plays a position which is highly variable from system to system. Just hold a good line, don't lose your man, and don't lose any 50/ 50 challenges the only position where your role is less complicated than being a centre back in a back 4, is goal keeper! Your job is to stop the round thing going into the rectangle thing, by any means necessary. Simples.

Who cares if he's match fit? I've worked my jaw muscles more over Christmas than my legs, and i could still keep up with Wayne Rooney.

4.) 04 Jan 2018 15:30:21
Depends on his fitness and his performances in training for me, if he seems to have adapted to our system quickly then chuck him in straight away.

5.) 04 Jan 2018 15:53:59
Virgil will start tomorrow. But I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't start. He probably won't start. Knowing Jurgen though, Virgil may not even play tomorrow.

6.) 04 Jan 2018 16:18:39
RBL, it'll be hilarious if he now comes on as a sub (the only scenario you've not included) so you're still wrong 😂.

7.) 04 Jan 2018 17:17:58
Adapts to our system? What system?



07 Jul 2016 08:36:25
And Ed002 question please -
How is the Chinese football venture progressing, and do you see it being successful in the short - mid term?

Related to that, we've seen the Chinese recently acquire interest in Italian football to add to other European football assets; do you see them moving into English football (not sure if they have some shares in Man Utd already? ) and, if so, any candidates?

Many thanks.

The Juicer

{Ed002's Note - This is my explanation that I wrote about what is happening:

Since China opened up it has thrown a massive potential market in to the mix for professional sports (not just football, but there are other growth sports as well) and a number of Chinese companies see the potential for significant income form the game. Chinese money is already flooding through football with ownership and/or investment in clubs as diverse as Inter Milan, Espanyol, Den Haag, Sochaux, Aston Villa, Milan, Atletico Madrid, Slavia Prague and significantly, City Football Group. City of course owns Manchester City, New York City, Yokohama F Marino and Melbourne City - and are looking to expand in to China and South America. For years the professional game in China was under a cloud of corruption (including match-fixing) and the Chinese, and to be fair FIFA, have worked very hard to resolve the issues. The game is on the up there and they have the money to pretty much do what they want. They now a shift will be coming in Europe and I would expect to see further investment in European sides - there is one organization looking hard at Germany and another already successful in buying in to Italy. They of course have to work within certain legal ownership frameworks and that will restrict investment in certain countries. Do not be surprised to see another English side be taken over by Chinese owners in the not too distant future. Meanwhile, the profile of the game at home is increasing and the market to be tapped significant. I spent several months in Hong Kong working in both 1988 and again in 1990 and it was clear then that the mainland needed a step change and it could get leverage over so much - since then that has happened. Six months working out of Beijing in 2005 (until they pretty much forced me out) showed that changes were happening - since then I understand from colleagues who do visit that it has moved on a lot.

In terms of my personal view:

The Chinese are intent on cleaning up their act and want to promote sport within a nation that has only recently fully opened their doors to the outside world. There is a significant shift in wealth to the Far East and in particular China. They will invest and build in their own leagues and they will go to other parts of the world to learn. Chelsea has lost one player to China and has had an approach about a second. Other players from the EPL will follow with at least one Manchester City and at least one Liverpool player having opportunities in China for next season. This then leads to potential movement of players within the consortia (as Udinese has done with Watford) and that is something we will see more of. They will learn from the mistakes of others and they will soon be looking to add coaching capabilities by recruiting from other leagues. It is progress - like it or not.}

The coming years will see lots of changes. You know about the pan-European breakaway proposals, well there is going to be a counter-proposal backed by UEFA to try and save their own skin which is soon to be tabled (at the end of August to the "elite" clubs and in December to everyone else). There will be more global City Football Group style collectives appearing. There will be growth in China. And so it goes.

It is 20% of the City Group that is Chinese owned.}

1.) 07 Jul 2016 09:44:58
Great read Ed.

2.) 07 Jul 2016 10:18:43
Top reply Ed, really interesting reading! Thanks for the time and effort you put inti the site, it is appreciated!

3.) 07 Jul 2016 10:51:05
Not just football or sports in general, but other industries as well, i. e. movies etc. There are lots of current Hollywood blockbuster movies being produced or financed by Chinese companies. They really have the monies.

4.) 07 Jul 2016 10:57:23
Yes, thanks for that Ed002.
I understand that you don't want to speculate on FSG's possible plans.
One final question if I may though (or one of the other Eds) - is there much potential income for the PL from television rights in China, or has that been maxed out already?

{Ed002's Note - It is part of the colelctive package.}

5.) 07 Jul 2016 09:17:57
Very very interesting Ed002.
Is there a political aspect to the Chinese growth i. e. is it part of a much larger 'grand plan'?

In terms of Liverpool's ownership going forward, I think possibly FSG have thrown everything on the Klipperty Klopp horse at present and after that, it becomes uncertain. If Klopp were to attain success and get CL football back, it could make a sell-off more likely and the Chinese could be a possible target?
Any thoughts, or is the new move UEFA idea likely to change things also?

{Ed002's Note - No, it is not a smokescreen for any political scheme. Any sale of the club has nothing to do with who the manager is.}



02 Sep 2015 11:59:09
The latest piece of proof that FSG are wrong for this club -
they want the flag wavers on the Kop to sign i'd forms and be issued with badges.
Any unauthorised banners will not be allowed.
You just couldn't make it up.
Next stop, hot dog vendors walking between the aisles.

The Juicer

1.) 02 Sep 2015 12:36:54
I used to have a Beano fan club badge, Gnasher and had rolling eyes and fur. Fingers crossed for similar

2.) 02 Sep 2015 14:07:46
Sounds like you're still a paid up member MR. What was that supposed to mean ?

3.) 02 Sep 2015 14:30:45
Hey tetchy. I'm sarcastically agreeing with you. I had badges when I was a kid, it's a stupid thing they're asking if true and as it's almost pathetic let it be some garish pathetic badge as well.

And yes I'm probably still a member of the Beano club, yes probably as I don't recall cancelling it and it was a one off fee no repeat subscription.

4.) 02 Sep 2015 15:00:57
I think the club released a statement regarding that. They said that poles that are used to hold up the flag can be used as weapons and that is why they are banning it. badges are perhaps a way to keep track of people who bring potential weapons (I know, no one wants to sue it like a weapon, it's a pole!). It's a premier league rule I think, and the club has no choice but to enforce it I think?

5.) 02 Sep 2015 16:01:16
Yeah because we all know there has been a horrendous problem at Liverpool with fellow home fans getting attacked by flag waving hooligans, AG right ?
Not having a go at you btw, but this is just ridiculous.

6.) 02 Sep 2015 18:14:25
Im with max renn. I too had a gnasher badge and probably do somewere in the loft still. Haha

7.) 02 Sep 2015 19:29:04
No problem man. I thought the PL was asking clubs to do these things.




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17 Mar 2018 08:51:57
Every game that Liverpool have left is a cup final now.
You can't look at any game in isolation and to have had that extra dimension would have been a huge benefit.
But it is what it is.

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17 Mar 2018 08:41:23
Looks good, but I'm glad that you're not writing out the Liverpool team sheet!

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16 Mar 2018 12:17:26
This is where Coutinho's loss / lack of a replacement is going to bite.
Why oh why have we left ourselves short?

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26 Feb 2018 10:31:39
Agree with Irish Rover above, but perhaps Milner will have an eye on who comes and goes in Summer.
Keita goes straight into the first team, Hendo, and then it's A. N. Other for the third place.
Milner could be looking at considerably less game time next season?

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01 Feb 2018 14:22:32
Kloppshop, huge irony that you criticise Sturridge's fitness record and then cite Ings as the alternative!
I do like Ings though, and hope he gets the good luck that his perseverance deserves.
Agree on Henderson too, he's got an important role to play to the season's end.

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17 Mar 2018 08:44:47
Yeah but what are you thinking of the Goodison game in between Ed025?

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{Ed025's Note - if you would have asked a couple of weeks ago juicer i would have said that everton had no chance, but i think the reds will have their eyes on the second leg against city, im sure they will give it a go but i think its got a draw written all over it mate..



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14 Mar 2018 08:11:34
On the subject of one of yesterday's topics - the saga at West Ham - there is an excellent David Squires cartoon in The Guardian.
Very good, and Carra makes a cameo appearance too!

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11 Mar 2018 09:22:47
This is where you miss £140m worth of midfield quality though isn't it?

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10 Mar 2018 21:46:54
Named after Jack Balmer of course.

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09 Mar 2018 08:05:27
Thar Milan side was like watching Liverpool of yore. No pace, getting murdered on the counter. I hope those days never return.
Suso played wide right for Rodgers, I particularly remember watching him at Norwich where he had Andre Wisdom as his full back. Some nice touches but it was never his position.

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