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23 Jul 2024 13:43:22
I was at a family thing over the weekend and got speaking to some of my in-laws, 1 of which is a current LFC player. He seems to think it is laughable that people think Trent will leave on a free. Apprently these people don't know Trent if they think that ?. He also said that Slot is a very demanding coach and a really nice fella.
Asked him about transfers and he doesn't know anything.
1.) 23 Jul 2024 13:58:50
Ahhhhh. I missed these kinda rumours. I remember seeing a post saying the guys cousin or someone saw hazard at airport he's coming to us. Too bad that wasn't true though!
2.) 23 Jul 2024 13:58:52
"In-laws"? Which current LFC player is old enough to have an offspring to "date"? No offense.
3.) 23 Jul 2024 14:28:27
Brother-in-law.
4.) 23 Jul 2024 14:33:38
"In law" could be brother-in-law or sister-in-law.
Plausible, and thanks for sharing OP.
5.) 23 Jul 2024 14:37:35
Brother in law?
6.) 23 Jul 2024 14:41:03
Brother in-law maybe?
7.) 23 Jul 2024 14:41:15
AG, Why would player need to have datable offspring? I assume he is inferring that the player is their brother-in-law or similar. They could even be their son-in-law. It just means that they are married into their family.
8.) 23 Jul 2024 14:44:37
You can be a brother in law AG mate. So one of the players could be married to his/ her brother/ sister.
9.) 23 Jul 2024 14:59:24
Partners cousin. So cousin in-law if you want ?. A lot of you rip the poor lad, so I ain't naming him and that should be a clue in a sense haha.
AG I'm old enough to be his dad, what are you on about? ?.
10.) 23 Jul 2024 15:08:53
By the way purley speculation wise we can rule out many (those who have already joined training)!
11.) 23 Jul 2024 15:15:00
“A lot of you rip the poor lad” doesn’t narrow it down it could be anyone from salah down to the tea lady reading some of the posts on here :)
12.) 23 Jul 2024 15:15:10
Thx Fields. Is he hoping that he can stay injury free this season?
13.) 23 Jul 2024 15:48:11
Aye Red Flyer, he has been drinking a lot of milk to keep his bones strong and doing a lot of yoga to keep himself nice and supple ?.
14.) 23 Jul 2024 16:00:33
I didn’t have “a series of replies defining what an in-law could be” on my Bingo card today.
Kubo of the Two Strings is a done deal.
Ederson has got the no.6 shirt.
Diaz is off to PSG
Ignacio has signed in secret
All told by my Aunt Beatrice (dead) at a seance.
15.) 23 Jul 2024 16:12:48
This is an old school style rumour, lovely stuff.
16.) 23 Jul 2024 16:56:41
Just to add to this, I’ve just come out of the barbers who had a player in his chair yesterday who said more or less the same thing, doesn’t know of any transfers at the moment.
17.) 23 Jul 2024 17:11:26
@TheFields. does your cousin in law visit this site at all?
Wonder what he thinks of all of us know-it-alls and all of our bitching and moaning.
{Ed025's Note - i think he might have said..."that ED025 knows his onions" JK, and how right he would be.. :) . and i know he wont tell us but my guess is that its Curtis Jones..
18.) 23 Jul 2024 17:27:21
As long as it’s not Darwin then I’m in the clear ?
I don’t think I’ve ripped on anyone else in the last 6 months.
19.) 23 Jul 2024 17:41:45
Then we can rule out curtis jones eh? ?.
20.) 23 Jul 2024 17:35:52
That was my 1st guess as well Ed25.
Also. why are these players allowed to attend family functions
They're supposed to living, breathing and playing football for LFC 24/ 7.
{Ed025's Note - they are living the dream JLC... i seen Riley the other day mate, he said he was living the life of a Liverpool player.. :)
21.) 23 Jul 2024 18:57:22
Good stuff Fields thanks for sharing.
22.) 23 Jul 2024 19:21:55
Fields of Anfield road maybe.
23.) 23 Jul 2024 21:53:10
Nah JLC, thankfully ?.
You are correct Ed25, I won't tell ?.
{Ed025's Note - and i dont blame you mate..
24.) 24 Jul 2024 01:17:45
If it is Curtis tell him that not everybody slags him off just the impatient so and sos that call themselves fans, the same ones that probably got they're noses out of joint when we signed Robbo.
25.) 24 Jul 2024 06:30:03
Keep it that way TheFields.
I'm sure if you were to ever reveal who the player is, knowing some of the peeps on here, you'll probably end up getting abused as well!
26.) 24 Jul 2024 08:03:36
A good old-fashioned rumour, thanks for sharing.
27.) 24 Jul 2024 08:06:48
Jones had a spell during both of the previous two seasons when he was the best player on the pitch, without exception.
28.) 24 Jul 2024 08:47:04
I’m a bit rusty on Guess Who but is he wearing a hat? If he is, I guess Richard… or maybe George.
Thanks for the info and good that you are keeping the name to yourself. A rumour without a mystery is like a tale without intrigue; it fades as quickly as it spreads.
I’m more interested in if you had any decent food at the family do? BBQ, sit down meal or nibbles. I’m not looking for clues, I just like food. :)
29.) 24 Jul 2024 08:53:00
I called into my local butchers and he told me on the QT that Mo Salah is getting the chop!
30.) 24 Jul 2024 10:24:09
Isn’t an in-law any member of your partner’s family? Or is that too simple on my part.
31.) 24 Jul 2024 13:17:45
I made dangerous assumptions. Apologies @Thefields!
17 Jul 2024 20:53:30
John Heitinga signed.
Now your talking, a good quality addition to our CB ranks. A good all round defender, with bags of experience. Should help shore that backline up. Pity it is as a coach ?.
By all accounts he is rated highly, worked his way up through the Ajax ranks. Even being manager for a brief stint, before going to WHU as part of Gollum's backroom staff.
{Ed025's Note - ex-Everton man TF, which means he has a winning mentality, i wish him all the best..
1.) 17 Jul 2024 21:09:13
Aye Ed25. About time someone made the trip across the park again, although he took a detour haha. Any chance of you flogging us Branthwaite? ?.
{Ed025's Note - he would suit you down to the ground TF, i cant see it happening though mate even though i think he will leave us..
2.) 17 Jul 2024 22:54:48
True Ed25. I can't see him leaving this summer tho.
{Ed025's Note - dont bet against it TF mate..
3.) 18 Jul 2024 00:41:54
I think Branthwaite is a good lad and he won't force a move elsewhere, unlike Stones, Barkely, or Gordon. Not sure how true this is but I read somewhere that he woukd only leave Everton if an acceptable offer was made for him. And I don't think Everton needs to sell anymore so I can still see him staying at Everton for the foreseeable future. I'd still like him to be with us though since we'd then have the best two young CBs in England in Quansah and him.
4.) 18 Jul 2024 01:42:14
Branthwaite has all the physical qualities but I don’t think he’s as good on the ball as ed025 thinks, and there were times I was watching Everton where his positioning and awareness of danger were suspect, I do wonder how we would do in a team that doesn’t have to defend anywhere near as much as Everton and plays on the front foot, quansah has proven that is his game, branthwaite is an unknown quantity in that regard, he is faster and has better recovery pace than quansah (who isn’t slow but isn’t blessed with extreme pace) but otherwise I’d take quansah any day for our needs.
Good player with the potential to be great, but Everton fans saying he’ll be better than stones or that he’s the English Maldini are just nuts to me. Still, if he were 50m or so and came to us I wouldn’t say no, him and quansah will be England’s center back pairing for the next ten years conceivably.
5.) 18 Jul 2024 00:00:48
Didn't you already close to sell Onana Ed25? You won't need the money anymore I would think.
{Ed025's Note - yeah mfahmee it should be completed by the weekend mate, never really got going with us but good luck to him..
6.) 18 Jul 2024 08:16:59
Branthwaite is another Dunk, Tarkowski type defender. Decent enough but certainly not worth all the hype.
I’ve watched him numerous times and I just don’t get the love in with him. The only reason I’d ever want to sign him is because it would annoy the bitters.
{Ed025's Note - i dont think you have seen enough of him then BP, hes very good imo and if you could get past your jealousy mate you would see that, hes one of the very top young defenders in the world hence his price tag and the amount of interest there is to secure his services..
7.) 18 Jul 2024 08:32:58
Don’t think that’s very fair on dunk bp, he’s a very different kind of defender to tarkowski (who’s more no nonsense)
8.) 18 Jul 2024 09:01:05
I've got to put bias aside and agree with Ed025 here. Branthwaite is a very good young player and I reckon he'll be regarded in a similar bracket to guys like Terry, Ferdinand and Campbell by the time he retires. I think Quansah will be in that bracket as well to be fair. The pair of them really stand out amongst the young English CB's in the Premier League as head and shoulders above the rest, in my opinion. It's not just the multifunctional defensive capabilities they possess, it's also that composure with and without the ball. They give off that aura of control which all top CB's do.
I think the only other CB's in the league with a ceiling as high as them are Saliba and maybe Botman if he can ever get over his injuries. They're both slightly older but still only 23 and 24 years old with massive potential.
Unfortunately Branthwaite looks destined to end up at Man United and that would be a massive coup for them. Everton should fight to keep him as long as possible though because I'd imagine they have long term goals of breaching the top 8 once they move into their new stadium. Maybe sustained European football of some description would tempt Branthwaite to be a One Club Man. I don't see him disrespecting Everton and joining Liverpool though, unfortunately. United beckons if Everton look like they'll remain in this rutt for the foreseeable future.
{Ed025's Note - very fair assessment there MK..
9.) 18 Jul 2024 15:54:07
Price tag means nothing Ed25 I say it as I see it and I’ve seen nothing special in Branthwaite whatsoever.
If price tag was anything to go by then Harry Maguire is the best CB in the world, which he isn’t. Far from it in fact.
Branthwaite is benefitting from the fact that every other Everton defender (bar Tarkowski) is championship quality at best so since he’s played he’s improved the team. But making Everton a 15th place team instead of 17th doesn’t make you a great player. He’s a competent defender, that’s about it for me.
{Ed025's Note - its how you see it i suppose BP, when you are watching an Everton player you will be looking for the negatives and praying that they mess up to feed your bitterness, myself i see the good side of his game and look for the positives as is my want, that does not make you a bad judge mate...just a little greasy.. :)
10.) 18 Jul 2024 18:36:21
Would there be a world where if LFC said we aren’t giving £65m for MG and offer £70m for branthwaite it would be entertained by Everton or is it a thing where they both don’t entertain any of the players - it’s surprising to me that when we are talking about a left footed CB, branthwaite is close to the top of that list, I would take him straight away.
11.) 18 Jul 2024 19:30:47
I'm pretty sure Everton would demand at least double whatever we offer.
12.) 18 Jul 2024 21:38:15
No bitterness here Ed, he looks like he’s leaving you lot anyway and quite frankly I couldn’t care less.
I just honestly don’t see what he’s done to warrant the way he being talked about as the next big thing. Someone even mentioned him in the same sentence as Terry, Ferdinand and Campbell! Ridiculous.
He improved Everton’s defence but that wasn’t hard. I think he’ll really struggle in a top team similar to what’s happened to Maguire.
{Ed025's Note - we will have to disagree on this one i think BP, by the way im not saying hes the next Ferdinand, Terry or Campbell mate...hes the next Beckenbauer or Bobby moore.. :)
16 Jul 2024 23:23:45
Just something I've heard. Whether it is true or not, your guess is as good as mine.
Moves are being made on 2 of the 3 positions we need players for, CB and DM. The 3rd, Attacker, is not seen as priority and unless someone leaves or the right oppurtunity comes up. We won't get anyone.
Personally, knowing the way we operated under Edwards last time (Yeah I know, Hughes is the Director of Football but he knows Edwards and I wouldn't be surprised if he operates in a similar way), that of the rumours.
1.) 17 Jul 2024 08:49:26
Would seem sensible to focus on the issues that need fixing, and conceding cheap goals regularly feels like a defensive midfielder is an absolute priority with another defender.
2.) 17 Jul 2024 10:31:26
It’s the middle of July I should hope moves are being made. We should have had a few in the door by now.
3.) 17 Jul 2024 11:37:52
VV or playing with an actual back 4 or 3 with wingbacks and drop the whole inverted right back debacle that left us exposed time and time again. Hopefully different coaching methods will remedy the issue.
4.) 17 Jul 2024 19:46:28
Inácio a great option for the reds, put the doe down and get your man.
Ederson and Varela would be special too.
5.) 17 Jul 2024 20:47:19
Onekiss, I think we need a little patience. You can't just look at things in monochrome, i. e. transfer window is open, why ain't we made signings or sales. You need to look at it in technicolor, especially when there is a lot to factor in to that equation. I. e. new coach, staff and competitions. Just my 2p ?.
Shughes, all would be interesting signings but I have a feeling it may be none of them haha.
6.) 18 Jul 2024 08:39:06
Jaydee, until we signed Fabinho we weren’t close to winning the league or champions league. A top class centre defensive midfielder is a transformative signing. We won’t win the league or be close until we do. If our window was Ederson and Inacio I’d say that was a very good bit of business.
7.) 18 Jul 2024 09:54:09
Except Ederson isn’t a defensive midfielder….
8.) 18 Jul 2024 11:36:22
Burgher, Ederson is far more of a defensive midfielder than any of Kimmich, Koopmeiners or Rabiot, and given that he played as either defensive midfielder or as half of the centre midfield partnership sat in front of the Defence for Atalanta (very well too I might add, including two very dominant performances against us), I would conclude that he’s the best option available. He’s strong, mobile, quick, anticipates danger, he reads the game well and technically he’s excellent, plus at 24 there’s plenty of miles left on the clock. Go and name one better option. I’ll wait.
03 Jul 2024 18:02:16
Rumour has it a particular agency is at the training ground tomorrow. They manage both players at the club and 3 off the top that we have been linked with.
Could be nothing but who knows.
1.) 03 Jul 2024 21:06:13
Gotta say, I love these old school type of rumours.
2.) 03 Jul 2024 21:10:18
Gestifute by any chance?
3.) 03 Jul 2024 22:17:45
Aye Ginger.
4.) 03 Jul 2024 22:42:53
At the training ground?
5.) 03 Jul 2024 23:13:05
Interesting. Very interesting. An agency you say. At the training ground. 3 players that we are linked with. The riddle is starting to play it's tune. This agency represents some players at the club also. The picture gets painted a little more. Connect the dots and carry the one. nope, I got nothing!
6.) 03 Jul 2024 23:53:59
Aye Ron, that is why it's more likely to be players already that play for us. Maybe discussing contracts, interest. Those kinda things. It's just an interesting coincidence some of the players they work for have been linked to us.
7.) 04 Jul 2024 07:41:37
Nunez and Jota are signed up until 2028 and 2027 so maybe there is something in it.
8.) 04 Jul 2024 07:49:41
Is it HMRC?
9.) 04 Jul 2024 09:35:32
Is it IMF?
There mission, should they choose to accept it - is to find a buyer for Nat Phillips. Mission Impossible 8: Fools Errand.
14 Oct 2023 12:36:30
Reports seem to be linking us with Max Ebrel as new sporting director. Any truth to this? Is he any good?
1.) 14 Oct 2023 19:58:44
Being honest, and speaking for myself, I have no idea what a Sporting Director does. If I don’t know what he does I reckon I’m not qualified to say if he is any good or not.
2.) 15 Oct 2023 00:25:25
West Derby Wanderer 3 - that’s possibly the most pointless post I have ever read, after reading this website for the best part of 15 years.
But - I 100% admire your honesty ?.
3.) 15 Oct 2023 06:16:09
To quote ed2
{Ed002's Note - Max Eberl is heading elsewhere and Liverpool have shown no interest. }.
4.) 15 Oct 2023 06:49:10
@Kemlyn I think I was speaking on behalf of a lot more people than just me.
5.) 15 Oct 2023 15:07:55
If only more posters would consider their own level of knowledge before pontificating so confidently?.
6.) 16 Oct 2023 08:14:23
As a poster that pretty much knows all about football ?? I'd say learn from edd2 he's really good with the running of the club.
Ed 1 for me normally gets it correct for tactical stuff.
I do like to look out for Harry's posts too he thinks outside the box and some of his thoughts are outstanding.
7.) 16 Oct 2023 11:42:57
There would not be many posters left Pessimistic.
8.) 16 Oct 2023 12:39:43
@PD, oddly in the social media age opinion and knowledge are often mistaken as the same thing by contributors.
Thefields's banter posts with other poster's replies to Thefields's banter posts
17 Jul 2024 21:06:58
Anyway, on Yoro. This kid ain't on the level of Yamal, well not may 17-18 year olds are. If the rumoured wage is to be true, he is not worth it imo. So we move on and let another club pay over the odds and nurture him, prior to his move to Madrid in a couple of years time. Assuming he doesn't flop.
Transfers take time and patience and have factors other than finances, so be patient.
Bejesus the trolls are out in force, have the schools and that finished for summer or something haha.
I hope you're ready for the storm Ed's. I hope you fortune in the battle to come, may the gods be with you. See you on the otherside ?.
1.) 17 Jul 2024 21:28:21
Missed your post when we signed Ryan Gravenberch £120k per week. Generational talent ????.
2.) 17 Jul 2024 21:34:01
Have to agree I’m disappointed we didn’t get the lad because he is very highly rated but it does appear that both Liverpool and Madrid had a price they felt they were willing to pay and Utd paid far in excess of that…and to be fair we can’t argue with that. For years we have been lauded as being astute in the transfer market while we mocked Utd for paying extortionate fees and high wages to players undeserving! At the rumoured fee we could buy a ready made starter for the team and not a teen who has and will continue to have goo goo eyes for Madrid. Not quiet dodged bullet but perhaps a smart business decision.
3.) 17 Jul 2024 21:49:10
Tbh if he turns out as good as Saliba or better then United have definitely not paid over the odds for him. Could have been a great signing to spend a year or two learning from Virg and then replacing him but time will tell. United have turned into a graveyard for players over the last few years so the kid is brave to go there. We will soon see how good he is.
4.) 17 Jul 2024 22:25:14
They were always going to spend the most money in the world this window after the take over
All we can hope is we strengthen a little too so they don’t close the gap.
5.) 17 Jul 2024 22:48:40
Agree could have been a good signing but if we have a limited budget we have to prioritise and it’s a big chunk of change for potential, only one real year under his belt and could end up never reaching the expected heights which is far more likely at Utd, in all reality if both Liverpool and Madrid felt it was unwise to invest to much than id probably side with there decision than Utds given all parties recent recruitment history. Again not raining on the lads parade he could turn out to be world class and we could be sitting here in 5 years thinking about what could have been but I can understand the clubs logic.
6.) 17 Jul 2024 23:07:15
Jaguar, "generational talent" is the new buzzword for wonderkid. Many of them have fell by the way side. As Gravenberch, you're talking about an older player with a lot more experience.
Dow-ney, exactly my thoughts on the matter. Why break the model, unless its for someone that is exceptional.
Brummyred, that's all good if that does happen. Doesn't hide the fact he could easily turn into another Kurt Zouma for all we know. Plus he will be yearning for Madrid.
Aye LFC8, let them. We will still finish above them ?.
7.) 18 Jul 2024 01:49:30
Not sure what Gravenberch has anything to do with Yoro but sure, you just do you.
As for Yoro, I think we have to admit that Utd are getting a decent youngster who does seem to have a high ceiling. If he had signed for us, I would expect most of us to be satisfied with the transfer. How he develops is still up in the air since he can either go on to be a huge success or a huge flop. Ed001 gave quite a good brief review of Yoro on the Utd page which I suggest most of us read.
Utd has made some good strides since Ineos came in and I have to admit that I am a bit wary of them now. They aren't the same as they were when the Glazers were fully in-charge.
8.) 18 Jul 2024 02:37:56
We haven’t had a big net spend for, well, I’ve lost count. Sooner or later it will catch up to us and I worry, without Klopp working wonders, if we’ll start to see our premier league position line up with were we stand in the spending league.
9.) 18 Jul 2024 03:53:24
People always complaining about not spending enough. People do realise it's not possible to just pump money in whether fsg wants to or not.
We need to generate more money to spend more money. The days of sugar daddies throwing money in is gone.
10.) 18 Jul 2024 04:01:52
Why is this idiot talking about Gravenberch on a thread about Yoro?
11.) 18 Jul 2024 06:23:23
@Thunderbird, don’t forget the overuse of laughing emojis, as if that really drives home his point and makes the other person look like an idiot. The irony.
12.) 18 Jul 2024 06:41:33
In fairness doubt majority of posters have watched much of him - but from the hype and what ed said (plus fact real and ourselves along with a suite of others wanted him) presume is a talent. If anything the obsession with what United are doing seems to come a bit from jealousy.
Apart from fact has a cool name dunno much about zirkzee - but again was coveted and from my understanding is similar to firmino in pressing / defence form the front and Ugarte again seems to make sense as a signing. They may be paying over the odds for them but that is what a club in their position competitively would have to do. If they add brainthwaite again that for me would be a very good signing.
Don’t think Yoro is a a much as a gamble in either A) lives up to hype and they double there spend selling to real b) again lives up to hype and enjoys Manchester becoming a lonnnng term CB or C) doesn’t live up to hype and either way at least get half the fee just from being a PL CB…. plenty of daft fees for average players, hell arsenal bought a striker for £45 who proved he couldn’t score in a dominant Manchester City team.
13.) 18 Jul 2024 06:41:42
Because Thunderbird, he’s the same idiot who 4 years ago talked about Darwin like he was the next generational talent. Words to the effect of how we simply HAVE to sign him. Now he’s here, he slags him off and mocks him.
14.) 18 Jul 2024 07:48:53
The player is said to have told us that he only wanted to go to Madrid and given our experience with Bellingham, Tchouameni and Rodrygo, it was sensible to walk away as there’s no point pursuing a deal where it appears the player has zero interest in playing for us. United have paid well over the odds and offered stupid wages to a kid to make this happen, I’d also expect that the club (Lille) pressured him into accepting it as their league is on the brink of financial collapse (a result of playing thrall to the Qatari’s I’d like to add), so they’re desperate for the stupid money that United are offering. Either way, not sure how we can criticise Hughes, the club or anyone at FSG for this as you can only go on previous experience, which in these cases have never went our way.
15.) 18 Jul 2024 09:48:06
Jaguar, I don't remember anybody on here calling Gravenberch a generational talent. In fact myself, Ed001 and a plethora of other posters all expressed concerns with many saying we should avoid him. I believe my exact words were "the Dutch Jack Wilshere" due his excessive hype and heavy touch.
Once he signed, everybody came together to back him and give him a chance to prove us wrong, but I honestly don't remember even one poster on here talking him up as a generational talent before or after he signed. Use as many laughing emoji's as you want, but you can't will something you made up into being true.
16.) 18 Jul 2024 10:15:32
I personally see Gravenberch as the new keita, shows sparks but quite simply doesn't do enough! Would rather have chucked the mills onto the academy to develop our own youngsters!
Maybe he'll grow into it, he did have some better performances towards the end of the season.
29 Jun 2024 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Thefields has posted a new article entitled, My Thoughts On Liverpool's Upcoming Season
1.) 29 Jun 2024 09:23:25
Good article. Disagree on a couple of points but I still enjoyed the read.
Personally I think Quansah is better than Konate. Ibou is decent but he’s more rash with and without the ball. But there’s not a lot in it currently. Unsure on Gomez as a CB, but Pacho and Murillo are both being linked a lot. Would take either one of them. They’re decent young players who can grow into it and learn from Virgil.
Only other thing I didn’t 100% agree with was Trent in midfield which I don’t disagree with per se, I’m just undecided. He looks out of sorts there for England but so does the whole team. It’s arguably just the Southgate effect. I like Trent as an attacking RB and I think I’d prefer him to stay there and then have Bradley as a back up RB and also an option for RW where he plays for Ireland. He also play RM for Bolton in a 3-4-3 so he has that attacking output and instinct to be cover for Salah as well as cover Trent. Trent’s passing range, I feel it’s wasted if half the team is behind him. I like him on the ball in the RB area because he then has up to 8 players ahead of him when Robbo makes a run in behind on the far side. If you put Trent in DM then you reduce his forward passing options realistically down to about 6 players. It’s not a huge difference but I don’t know yet how I feel about it. I’d like to see it in action with a tactically astute manager at the helm. Southgate’s a clown.
Everything else, I think you nailed. I’d also like to see Beck given a chance. He’s very similar to Bradley but left sided so I’d like to see him replace Tsimikas as the Robbo back up and I wouldn’t be shocked if he takes his chances and phases Robbo out over the next couple of years as Robbo moves in to his mid 30’s.
I think you’re right about DM/ CM being priority as we only really have Endo, Jones, Macca and Bajcetic who suit a double pivot. Possibly Trent on paper. Endo is no spring chicken but is definitely still our best option here, Jones and Bajcetic have had injury issues and Macca is our best option further forward in the AM role. Ederson is heavily linked and I like him a lot.
I also agree about Salah getting a new deal and selling Diaz. Think you’re spot on there. Salah is still our most reliable goal scorer and creator. Diaz wants out and isn’t good enough to fight to keep hold of against his will.
Lastly, good point about Nunez being more suited to a 4-2-3-1. In a 4-3-3 the striker is often expected to drop deep to pull defenders around for the wide forwards to exploit the gaps. Also the lack of player in a central AM role (the number 10 role as they say) means the striker is often required to peel off the CB’s into that area to receive the ball back to the defenders and lay it off or turn on it. Bobby was a king at this. Gakpo and Jota just about cope with it too. But it just doesn’t suit Nunez. You want him on the shoulder of the last man. Having Macca or Elliott in that AM role forces Nunez higher and leaves them as the guys receiving the ball in the half spaces between the lines. And they are better at turning on the ball and picking a pass, of which Nunez will now be one of the receivers more often than not. Also Gakpo is a significantly better crosser of the ball than Diaz, and Nunez loves attacking crosses. Diaz always wanted to come inside and shoot because of his limitations with delivering into the box whereas Gakpo is great at cutting back and arching a cross in, or going around the RB and crossing with the outside of his right boot. I think we’ll see a different Nunez next season in Slots system.
So yeah, agree overall. 3 or 4 players is all we lack; GK to replace Kelleher, CB to replace Matip, DM/ CMto replace Thiago and a RW/ LW to replace Diaz. you for this article mate. Nice to read something positive for a change on here instead of people just trashing our whole squad. I’m voting you poster of the month for June.
2.) 29 Jun 2024 09:57:19
Most posters going to dislike this view but it's just another way of looking at things.
Our biggest problem is VVD, we too often rely on him and to it's a becoming a bit of a lottery if he's up to it. He's nearly 33 and will ask for significant wages on any new contract. If someone offered us decent money for him, I'd sell. I'd then go and get 2 centre backs. One who is naturally left footed and the other able to play in a couple of positions. Next I'd have Robbo as back up left back and sell the Greek. Ait-Nouri would be perfect.
I'd also sell Salah or at least get his replacement in early. We can't be a club that pays 100k's a week to aging players.
Other players will naturally step up, I'm thinking of Trent, Szobo, Nunez, Gakpo, Quansah, Bradley, Macca, Elliot should be the core of our team.
{Ed025's Note - dont worry about the money Lee...they wont be knocking on your door to contribute mate..
3.) 29 Jun 2024 10:23:43
I think Slots system will get the best out of Vvd next season.
Virg is far more suited to playing left centre back in a 4321 than he is left centre back in a 433.
4.) 29 Jun 2024 10:26:00
Our biggest problem is VVD? ?
And sell our top scorer? ?
These are two of the reasons we shouldn't talk about finances, Leelad.
5.) 29 Jun 2024 11:11:16
Rigsby. I know my suggestion is a bit wild but they'll be gone soon either way you look at it. Ed025 - I'm just not a fan of giving players, who are on the decline, significant wages. Neither Salah or VVD are going to get better. I just rather we cracked on without them. We'd be fine.
{Ed025's Note - still 2 quality players though Lee, the problem is replacing them with a similar standard player mate..
6.) 29 Jun 2024 11:20:48
Mk if Nunez plays on the shoulder of the last man doesn’t that mean he is playing deeper.
Last season he was usually found by the linesman beyond the last man ?.
7.) 29 Jun 2024 11:25:25
It's inevitable they'll be gone in 12 months (especially Salah) . Would you give VVD a new contract on 250k/ 300k a week or Salah £350k+ a week. No chance. Plenty of great players out there. We just have to find them again.
8.) 29 Jun 2024 12:41:15
Lee I don’t think any fan has ever given any player their contract wage.
If the club are happy to pay them that then they can clearly afford it.
Players wages have zero bearing on fans however you watch games.
9.) 29 Jun 2024 22:36:14
VVD and Salah are world class players. Both have truly been the best in the world in their positions at points in their careers.
The longer we can keep players like them in the squad the better. This idea of getting rid and going cold turkey is a bit short sighted.
Transitioning these players out whilst letting their replacements learn from them surely is a better option?
We all know spending £100m on a player can go horribly wrong. Why not get talented, hungry, young players in for a fraction of the price or even from the academy and let them learn from the best? Both on and off the pitch?
That’s how true legacies are made.
10.) 29 Jun 2024 21:18:19
@MK, the draft of the speech that Lincoln actually used in the Gettysburg address only contained 272 words ??.
11.) 30 Jun 2024 03:14:17
Nice one @MK ?.
I get what you mean with Trent. I just think he is a different player for us. Seems like an outcast under the waistcoat. I'm leaning towards let's see what he can do for us, with players that know where to be when he passes the ball. We shall see what Slot decides haha.
As for those going on about Van Dijk, wind ya necks in. If you can have players like Tiago Silva grace the league at 39 and some of the great Italian defenders playing into their late 30's. There is no reason why he can't play like he did last season for a few years more.
28 Jun 2024 09:10:13
Thefields has written an article entitled, My thoughts on Liverpool's upcoming season
1.) 28 Jun 2024 10:39:16
I'm really confused on how a 4231 system suits Nunez more than a 433 system.
So last season he was the central forward of the 3 and then under Slot he will be the central striker on his own.
Under Klopp or Pep (as some believe he was the puppet master) chances for Nunez or any of our forwards has never been an issue its the finishing that let them down last season and that is aimed more at Salah as well.
Nunez missed 24 big chances in the league in a system that doesn't apparently suit him. Yes people will point out Haaland missed 34 big chances but his 27 league goals paper over those cracks.
What's even more worrying is we always said Klopp was the best manager in the world but he bought a forward for 80 odd million that apparently isn't suited to a 433.
Truth is if Nunez had scored 10 of those big chnances missed he would have finished the season on 21 league goals and all of a sudden 433 gets the best out of him as well.
2.) 28 Jun 2024 11:07:25
It’s fine margins JK. He hit the woodwork a ridiculous amount of times too. If half of those are an inch the other way we are having a different conversation.
He’s proved time and time again that he can finish. I just think he’s trying a bit too hard sometimes and this Nunez agenda gets to him.
I’m certain that if we stick with him we’ll be talking about one of the best strikers in the world in 2 seasons time. I just hope we give him that time and that he still wants to be here.
3.) 28 Jun 2024 12:08:11
Ai Beckers I’m not criticising Nunez and 100% agree that if he scores them then it’s a different conversation.
But then doesn’t that prove it’s not the system but just the end product whether we play 4231, 433 or Mike Bassett 44 f##king 2 ?.
I can see why people say it could be our possession based football but 16 of the teams we face in a season we dominate possession against so it’s not like we can give it straight back to the opposition and say you have it for a while so we can counter attack at speed.
4.) 28 Jun 2024 13:11:02
@JK23, not arguing with facts, but JK is the best manager we have had and will always be a legend, however he was not the best recruiter, that's why a few of the signings he pushed for when he got that power either did not perform to their best or flattered to decide. Those that were recruited by the previous DOFs using the data lead approach was far more successful i e Salah mane etc.
5.) 28 Jun 2024 13:20:28
Grinch no arguments mate it’s all opinions at the end of the day. Agree with what you’re saying but it wasn’t the point I was trying to make mate.
The question I am asking is what is the difference for a forward from being the central forward in a 433 to the central forward in a 1 in a 4231 and how does that get the best out of them finishing their chances.
6.) 28 Jun 2024 14:15:30
The reason Nunez missed so many chances last season was because of Nunez, nothing to do with systems.
7.) 28 Jun 2024 15:41:50
Some of his misses have been horrendous, that’s not down to formation.
8.) 28 Jun 2024 17:00:34
I'm not entirely sure what the difference is, as I ain't a coach or a manager. An educated guess would be, tactically and instructions wise.
If playing as a central forward in a 433, you need to drop back to defend more, link up play etc.
If it is in a 4231 there is less emphasis on dropping back, linking up play etc.
So he can just worry about staying around the box where you want him to be, so he can miss even more chances and maybe score a couple more. As I reckon if he scored 25-30 goals a season and missed 75-70 a season, people would be happy ?.
9.) 28 Jun 2024 17:07:45
Maybe we can play him left wing with kvaratshella Diaz gakpo jota szoboslai and Trent with Bradley right wing and alisson up front.
10.) 28 Jun 2024 17:12:47
Nunez seems to be better finishing crosses instinctively that come into him fast. Same for Uruguay. Some call them 'tap ins', but he has a knack of being in the right place at the right time.
He is worse running on to through balls, one on one with the keeper, when he has more time to 'think'.
Which system would be better to engineer crosses rather than through balls?
11.) 28 Jun 2024 18:39:39
I love Nunez, love the chaos he creates and maybe if we played a 10 closer to him, like a shadow striker (is that still a thing), I think the team would score more. I also agree about playing faster in forward areas. I have to say that I know **** all about football, so my opinion is probably useless.
12.) 28 Jun 2024 19:35:47
How about you look at it from another angle. I would argue Nunez is alongside Haaland for the best in the prem at getting into goalscoring positions. That's a skill in itself, he's bloody brilliant at it and by nature of the amount of opportunities he gets himself by that ability he will miss more than others. Now I'm not saying he doesn't need to work on his finishing, but the best finisher in the world isn't scoring if they don't get into the positions to finish. Nunez has an incredible ability that shouldn't be underestimated and I'm personally ecstatic we have him and will continue to back him to the hilt.
13.) 28 Jun 2024 20:49:23
Serious question: what is going to change to make Nunez one of the best strikers in the world in
two years time?
He's miles away from that at the moment and wasn't even starting seen as the best striker for us at the end of last season.
14.) 28 Jun 2024 23:06:03
Jeez, get off the guys back. Darwin is already one of the best strikers in the World. If you can find a defender that looks forward to playing against him, I'll show you a liar.
Should he leave this Summer are you really saying that you'd like LFC to play against him? He ripped us to pieces when he was at Benfica, I'd much rather he was putting the fear of God into opposing defences than ours.
Besides all that, who would replace him and be better, or more fun to watch.
15.) 29 Jun 2024 02:36:46
Fair to say that if he didn’t play for us already, anyone watching the Copa America would be desperate (DESPERATE as Oli would say) for him to sign.
16.) 29 Jun 2024 09:16:37
Composure Rigsby. I still think he’ll get there, well I really hope he does or he will go down as one of the most frustrating talents I’ve seen play in a red shirt.
17.) 29 Jun 2024 09:26:03
Who's on his back, RedAK?
We can be critical without being on his back. I know what he offers but he needs to do a lot more to be one of the best strikers in the world.
Don't just take my word for it, he wasn't regularly starting for Klopp at the end of last season. If that's because he was carrying an injury or was seen as an impact player, fine; but he has to do a lot more to be one of the best strikers in the world.
For me, the best have to be scoring lots of goals or at least creating lots of goals and, crucially, do it in the big games and in the big moments.
Nunez hasn't done that for us. Yet.
27 Jan 2024 00:19:44
I've still not come to terms with yesterday's news, it feels like some horrible dream. It was inevitable, just not expected this summer at least. Klopp for me is in the top 3 greatest managers of this great club. Like Shakley before he has built us up, now we need his Paisley to come and continue that success. For me that has to be Alonso or De Zebri. Alonso the slight favourite of course ?.
The odd thing about all of this is the timing, everyone is wondering why now? Who knows, the most likely as some have said is a leak. Which got me thinking. Could if be possibly because of the DOF search? If they are going to be looking at potential candidates, they would have to say about Klopp leaving. Just a thought tho.
1.) 27 Jan 2024 10:07:25
Hard pass on DeZerbi.
23 Jul 2024 21:53:10
Nah JLC, thankfully ?.
You are correct Ed25, I won't tell ?.
{Ed025's Note - and i dont blame you mate..
23 Jul 2024 15:48:11
Aye Red Flyer, he has been drinking a lot of milk to keep his bones strong and doing a lot of yoga to keep himself nice and supple ?.
23 Jul 2024 14:59:24
Partners cousin. So cousin in-law if you want ?. A lot of you rip the poor lad, so I ain't naming him and that should be a clue in a sense haha.
AG I'm old enough to be his dad, what are you on about? ?.
17 Jul 2024 22:54:48
True Ed25. I can't see him leaving this summer tho.
{Ed025's Note - dont bet against it TF mate..
17 Jul 2024 21:09:13
Aye Ed25. About time someone made the trip across the park again, although he took a detour haha. Any chance of you flogging us Branthwaite? ?.
{Ed025's Note - he would suit you down to the ground TF, i cant see it happening though mate even though i think he will leave us..
17 Jul 2024 23:07:15
Jaguar, "generational talent" is the new buzzword for wonderkid. Many of them have fell by the way side. As Gravenberch, you're talking about an older player with a lot more experience.
Dow-ney, exactly my thoughts on the matter. Why break the model, unless its for someone that is exceptional.
Brummyred, that's all good if that does happen. Doesn't hide the fact he could easily turn into another Kurt Zouma for all we know. Plus he will be yearning for Madrid.
Aye LFC8, let them. We will still finish above them ?.
16 Jul 2024 23:31:50
Yeah I agree with you there MK.
Slot needs time to asses the other players in the squad outisde of the main players. That way the when the main players come back, he will have a good idea of who he wants and hopefully things will have started moving, in regard to incomings.
I'm looking forward to seeing what happens, we have a talented squad. With a few adjustments, we should have a good season.
14 Jul 2024 17:05:13
It wasn't an experiment. We bought Endo because we needed a midfielder of that ilk. We missed out on 2 targets (Cacideo and Lavia), didn't have enough time to look at other options. So bought the best we could at that time. Endo and Mac Calister were are best 2 midfielders last season. We need another one who will rotate with Endo, not to replace him. Ideally it would be a better DM.
12 Jul 2024 00:08:28
Ah fair enough. I will let you off this time Ed25 ?. If SIR stands for Small In Reach, they yeah he can be a SIR ?.
Oli, like the one on Kane last night ?.
{Ed025's Note - i like that mate..
11 Jul 2024 16:24:02
If that was my family, I would be doing the same thing. If he gets banned for it, so be it but I for one won't be getting on his back because of it.
As for Dickford being a national hero. Come on Ed25 take those blue tinted specs off. He only gets in the England squad because all the other keepers are crap ?.
{Ed025's Note - i have said that all along TF, we all know hes the best of a bad bunch mate but to be fair to the guy he has never let them down, could we be looking at Sir Jordan Pickford in the near future?...stranger things have happened..