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30 Aug 2023 17:10:40
Gravenbach on loan. Not sure whether option or obligation to buy.
1.) 30 Aug 2023 17:31:21
May I ask your source, Mr. Andy?
2.) 30 Aug 2023 17:41:12
United, not us.
3.) 30 Aug 2023 18:00:45
Ornstein has just said we are in negotiations with BM right now. Not guaranteed but if price is right an offer will follow. He's usually very reluable.
4.) 30 Aug 2023 18:08:22
Okay, so as per David_Ornstein:
"The situation for Gravenberch with LFC has developed significantly on Wednesday. Both clubs are discussing their respective valuations — If Liverpool believe the finances are achievable, they are expected to submit a formal offer shortly.
Also, Ryan Gravenberch is believed to favour a move to Liverpool over other suitors which includes Manchester United. "
5.) 30 Aug 2023 18:24:58
Mellisa Reddy confirming it.
6.) 30 Aug 2023 18:50:01
A loan? Surely permanent makes more sense.
7.) 31 Aug 2023 05:56:42
@Daretodream. Perhaps, but a loan provides a back out option if his temperament doesn't suit.
14 Jun 2023 20:31:06
Said it a couple of months back and I'll stick by it, don't be surprised if Nunez heads to Spain this summer and not on holiday. For everyone crying out for a CB, who do they replace in the starting 11 because vvd or konate aren't sitting on the bench.
1.) 14 Jun 2023 20:38:05
I not keen on Nunez. Yes he's raw, yes he's young, but some of the shots, passes and decisions he makes have me think he's not gotba footballing brain at all.
If we got back the money spent on him I'd be inclined to left him leave. The only problem, who replaces him?
Baz.
2.) 14 Jun 2023 20:40:29
Where do you think Nunez will go to in Spain? I can think of only three clubs that could give us close to what we paid for him.
3.) 14 Jun 2023 20:43:39
I think he'll stay for at least one more season, he's now had time to adjust to the league, the language and the culture. If he doesn't bag 20+ goals or he throws his toys out the pram not starting week in week out we'll sell him next season. We won't get more than £50m for him though unless he has a very good season, so it is a slight worry.
4.) 14 Jun 2023 20:53:03
Selling him already!
I see plenty of potential in him and see him playing a big part in the seasons to come. He’s a nightmare for defenders.
5.) 14 Jun 2023 20:58:09
We’ve started playing 3 at the back.
We don’t need to replace VVD or Konate but we do need to upgrade on Matip and Gomez particularly if we move one on.
Konate is also picking up too many injuries and VVD ain’t getting any younger.
6.) 14 Jun 2023 21:19:50
If someone came in with a decent offer and it meant being able to buy a quality player who we need I’d say yes. I think he’s a bit undercooked for the PL.
7.) 14 Jun 2023 21:31:03
I can't understand the purchases of Nunez or Gakpo. Gakpo has poor first touch control, worse than Salah and he's bad, poor acceleration. Nunez has talent, but i agree that he's not demonstrated much of a football team game brain. and both seem to miss sitters with regularity with a lack of composure . Bizarre purchases both of them. Worse of all. I can't see where either of them fit in. Nunez will always be second to Diaz and I would rather see Elliot as a false 9 that Gakpo up top. They do not add anything to the creative pool. Their combined values would buy someone useful and selectable.
{Ed025's Note - troll alert..
8.) 14 Jun 2023 22:30:27
Nunez is a really tough one to comment on as he was so up and down.
I could certainly see him having a really successful career in Spain.
9.) 14 Jun 2023 22:34:26
I could see a troll starting in the false 9 position.
10.) 14 Jun 2023 22:45:02
Viva if you weren’t so obvious you may just get away with it. Gakpos first touch is excellent and many a time he has accelerated past players. File under troll, must try harder!
11.) 15 Jun 2023 00:12:11
Even if you are going to troll, at least make it a little more intelligent than that! ?♂️.
12.) 15 Jun 2023 00:34:18
I think Nunez criticism here is a bit harsh. Yeah he’s raw but in an up and down season where he was in and out the team with a lot of sub appearances, sometime playing centrally and sometimes left he still managed 15 goals, a fair amount of assists and was unlucky to not have more goals with some top notch saves made against him and hitting the post. I think he will adapt and be an absolute beast of a striker next year. My only concern is that he does seem to be reliant on his and I’m not sure he has enough in his all round game to account for that as he ages and slows down. Still young though I guess. I wouldn’t sell him.
Whoever said Gapko is rubbish is off their nut.
13.) 15 Jun 2023 01:31:01
Surprised by the Nunez comments. The lad has done well considering change of country going from Portuguese league to the premier is a big step up. He’s tall strong and he’s quick. He can finish too. If he had come in a different year to haaland and the demise of the centre mid we’d probably be saying good goals return now push on next season. Good player imo.
14.) 15 Jun 2023 05:34:03
Good player? Open to debate. Fits our system? Not shown anything so far to suggest he does. Maybe he has this season to improve but so far seems to be the wrong player for our system. He needs to learn how we press from the front and link play or Klopp adapts to suit him which I hope doesn't happen.
15.) 15 Jun 2023 05:58:29
Nunez?
I want him to succeed but he’s more Emile Heskey than Michael Owen when it comes to finishing.
Nightmare for defenders, just not goalkeepers.
Gakpo? He’s an excellent player and an excellent buy.
If we got £35 million for Nunez I would not be surprised to see him leave. I’d be disappointed it didn’t work out because I want it to but not shocked. I think we pay more based on achievements which also points to a possible earlier exit.
{Ed001's Note - I think you forget how many Owen used to miss Ron. He was a terrible finisher too, but it was just the team was set up to provide him with every chance. I lost count of the number of times I used to get annoyed with him missing chance after chance, only to finally notch one and everyone around me suddenly forgetting about the 10 chances he had already messed up. He was no Rush or Fowler that is for sure.}
16.) 15 Jun 2023 08:43:12
Nunez could be Klopp's second big mistake in the TM. As JK said, there are things that can be trained/ learned and things which are instinctual and either there or not. Nunez was a big big risk at the money we paid. One good season in the Portugese league is not enough.
He's had his proverbial kick up the backside with the sending off and Klopp's comments about the press and language. Now its on him. Who would pay 50 for him if he fails at LFC? And who decided that we needed a raw striker over a MF last summer.
17.) 15 Jun 2023 09:34:25
Rush would have scored a goal with 2/ 3 chances. Owen needed about 6 chances before he’d Findlay score.
18.) 15 Jun 2023 10:20:14
I feel I got to back Nunez on this, the criticism is harsh on him.
The whole team was not prepped well for last season.
Everyone wasn’t right, the system wasn’t right, injuries early on and low morale in the team.
People already asking for him to be gone or sold is not fair on the lad. He did alright in his first season with his number of goals and assists.
He has a hot head and is raw like everyone says. But as Liverpool fans, that is something we really like in a player. That fire in the belly and drive! He has that, he does need to hone in on his weaknesses and temper a little but he’s a good player who can succeed and do very well for us.
Initially my previous thought last summer was that Nunez was looking to be the next one in for our new front line. Diaz was the first of the three, then Nunez and then gapko. All young and got a good 5+ years in them to grow.
I was thinking the initial strategy with the whole salah issue last year was that. LFC didn’t want him to go on a free, so my hunch was, they said to salah, we will tie you down and give you the contract and wages you demand; with the intention to possibly sell next summer (this one) . So that way salah would get the wages he wanted, possibly the big final transfer he wanted, lfc got 1 more year out of him and he did very good considering the season we’ve had, plus due to the contract. We could get a hefty sale for him.
Leading onto the new frontline for lfc, Nunez, gapko, Diaz. I can see Nunez and Diaz interchanging and swapping sides or the front 3 being interchangeable with jota/ doak/ Elliot from the bench.
We have aging players and as amazing and incredible salah is, I love the guy and what he has done and achieved for us. But it is getting to a point where, what is his value worth to other teams? To us, he’s priceless, to someone else though… a 32 winger who eventually will slow down and regress. They may not value him the same. There are very few players who can replace what he does and has done. But I think the plan was that the new front three would be the solution. Nunez may not be able to reach the numbers of salah, but he has got the potential to be a 20+ goal per season player. Diaz is more in the 15+ range and so is gapko. Along with the goals being added from other parts of the field. That’s should in theory be enough.
Last thing I wanted to say though, people ripping Nunez for his misses, yes I get frustrated with them too but tbf, some are great saves or off the post. But salah has had his fair share in his time of missing so many sitters or having opportunity after opportunity. Not every striker is perfect. But Nunez has got the potential to be a top striker and player for us. So we should be backing him rather than already knocking him off.
19.) 15 Jun 2023 19:20:52
Some great responses and debate on this post, pros and cons either way I just want to express that I am by no means Nunez out it's just what I'd heard. Up the reds!
20.) 15 Jun 2023 20:05:07
15 goals in his 1st season. I'll take that. He's going to be a beast that guy. I'm more worried about mo salah actually and he's a legend but struggled a fair bit this season.
21.) 17 Jun 2023 09:47:10
You can’t compare mo salah’s missed chances to Nunez, mo salah is a winger, whereas Nunez is can player as a central forward, which I think is his best position than on the left wing. Looking at some of nunez’s misses, some were so bad, he’s go clean through and rather than look to place it, he’s just put his foot through the ball and hope it wasn’t saved. A lot of his shots that were saved were not because the opposition keeper was great, but more because he just shot straight at them. I’m hoping he will settle down and learn the lingo, as there is potential to be a great player. I’m not sure he has a good footballing brain mind you, definitely had the ability though, just needs to be able to tap into it.
17 Apr 2023 21:42:22
Any of the eds heard anything about a move to Spain for Darwin Nunez this summer? Just a rumour I'd heard. Thanks in advance!
{Ed002's Note - No.}
1.) 18 Apr 2023 07:45:29
Nothing to see here, move along.
2.) 18 Apr 2023 09:25:36
I think it's very likely, decent place to go on a family holiday and he doesn't strike me as the Vegas type. I reckon he'll go for a couple of weeks.
3.) 18 Apr 2023 11:10:11
Tbh struggling to see how he fits in to the team next season.
Diaz is clearly first choice on the left - even though I don’t think Nunez is good enough to play on the left irrespective of Diaz.
It also seems like Gakpo has nailed down the CF position with Klopp preferring a firmino type player in there to join in with the build up play and retain possession rather than an out and out number 9.
Basically means Nunez will be limited to impact sub/ rotation as he is defs not in our strongest 11. Strange considering we spent so much on him but really see gakpo as signed pretty much as his replacement in the 11.
4.) 18 Apr 2023 11:34:58
You have to find a way to use him centrally. He has all the attributes to be a top LFC striker.
I suspect Luis Diaz's injury in October changed our season plans for him to play more centrally.
Given Gakpo is so tactically versatile, we may see him moved around to accommodate the unlocking of Darwin. Gakpo has the ability to play as a false 9 in a 433, tip of 442 diamond, no10 in a traditional 442 and one of the 10s in a box midfield. In all but the 433, Darwin could play centrally without having to come deep.
The big concern is, as Ed alluded to earlier, that we overcomplicate things with our resident galaxy brain.
5.) 18 Apr 2023 12:19:42
I can see Nunez, Gakpo and Diaz rotating to be honest.
3 top players across 2 positions is about right for a team that has ambitions to be challenging on all fronts.
Each player brings something different to the game as well so you chop and change depending on who your playing against.
I still see Jota leaving to be honest.
6.) 18 Apr 2023 13:03:24
U can never have enough goalscorers.
7.) 18 Apr 2023 13:15:53
@Joshkel
That’s like saying you don’t see how Grealish and Foden play for city when they have Mahrez.
Or how Alvarez plays when they have Haaland.
Throughout the course of a season there will be plenty of games.
It’s a squad game. And this season has shown with the various injuries that we need more than 3 high quality forward players.
Luckily most of them can play multiple positions.
8.) 18 Apr 2023 13:21:42
At some point I think Nunez is going to just set alight and be phenomenal. I'd say he's had a pretty decent first season actually but I think it's just a little hint of what he can do. Goals, assists, beating defenders. The nerves and tension that he struggled with initially have gone (great run, first touch and finish last night) . Fast, strong, both feet, good in the air work-rate, passion.
9.) 18 Apr 2023 15:00:00
Don't underestimate the Diaz injury. How many times have we seen a serious injury badly affect a player?
Torres, Virgil, Fowler, Gomez, Oxlade-Chamberlain etc.
I'm not saying he's done but just suggesting we temper our expectations and don't overly rely on him for at least 6-12 months.
11 Apr 2023 22:01:05
So ed2 has told us for months that JB was going to be difficult. all of a sudden Paul Joyce says LFC are backing away and the site goes into meltdown. You got to laugh sometimes.
{Ed025's Note - absolutely andy..
1.) 11 Apr 2023 22:38:00
We all knew it was going to be difficult but expectation was that he may choose somewhere else over us and not that we would declare ourselves out the race due to a lack of funds before the window even opened.
2.) 11 Apr 2023 23:03:43
Andy1 we've made a laughing stock out of ourselves mate, the world and its mother knew the price would be massive and we wasted 18 months chasing him and not bringing anyone else in because he's was klopps no.1 target, now we walk away. Embarassing.
3.) 11 Apr 2023 23:34:14
Joshkel - who said it was a lack of funds?
4.) 12 Apr 2023 01:22:15
It’s says cooled not that Liverpool as ended there interest in Bellingham don’t believe a word anyway they’ve got nowt better to write about another clickbait just like Joyce said we’re not getting Allison jotta or Thiago and why would dortmund or Bellingham announce it this early and ruin there run of form in league even if it doesn’t happen FSG need to go they’ve made us sit on this too long if they can’t afford to get Bellingham.
5.) 12 Apr 2023 08:23:43
The expected knicker wetting has begun.
6.) 12 Apr 2023 12:41:59
Hope you’re as effusive about finishing in the bottom half of the table next season Flash.
11 Aug 2023 21:20:25
Akira you know about as much as I do. You guessed one and have had twelve wrong since. What I do know is that ed 02 is the god and ed025 is his goddess.
05 Aug 2023 11:40:31
Wdw you usually add to pretty decent contributions to this site but come on pal you can't seriously believe that nonsense. I'd seen on a separate post that you said he's not in the saints team so it's a fact he's not good enough. So I'll throw my ten pence worth in and say he wasn't in the side because he'd had a dodgy ruby and that's a fact!
22 Jun 2023 19:21:38
No offence Rax but this is old news and could mean something but nothing.
15 Jun 2023 19:20:52
Some great responses and debate on this post, pros and cons either way I just want to express that I am by no means Nunez out it's just what I'd heard. Up the reds!
13 Aug 2022 04:32:45
What's an "inside forward"?
06 Aug 2023 20:18:28
Imagine being kippers and thinking fsg had anything to do with backroom staff. Our fan base is seriously deteriorating mentally.
19 Jul 2023 18:17:59
An act of self sabotage ?? my good god!
18 May 2023 20:31:22
Great info again thanks ed2.
18 May 2023 17:45:13
Mind if we ask where ndicka is off to eds? Please of course.
{Ed002's Note - There is a verbal agreement to join Roma, although he did have a better offer from elsewhere.
11 Apr 2023 22:28:13
Alonso. we signed a midfielder in the summer. Who is the 37 year old that starts every week? Cavarlho not kicking on is hardly amateurish and he's still a kid. Stop making stuff up.