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14 Oct 2020 11:18:16
It makes me laugh how often I read or hear people talking about the consolidation of power of "the big six"

Even if the proposal went through the amount of times 6 of those 9 would agree on anything is so few that it probably wouldn't matter anyway.


1.) 14 Oct 2020 17:55:36
I love the sport, but sometimes the business side of the game rears its (ugly) head, and ticks a lot of people off. It's a sign of our times, anyway. Taking moments of weakness, fears and chaos to take undue advantages irrelevant of the consequences. It's nothing new in terms of how people in leadership (whatever kind it is) behave and act. Sane heads would never allow this kind of thing to go through.

{Ed025's Note - and liverpool at the forefront of that greed ArAy, whats new..

2.) 14 Oct 2020 19:24:37
Self-interest is at the heart of all the Premier League clubs Ed, we saw that during the lockdown.
I preferred the old football league system but the existence of the Premier League owes everything to the establishment of an elite and more money in any case.
It seems to me that this latest plan was just another step on that path?

{Ed002's Note - Try not to start to try and blame others. Liverpool have been well and truly shamed yet again. Trying to profiteer from the pandemic was never going to be expected and certainly never accepted.}

3.) 14 Oct 2020 19:34:58
Agreed, it was a disgusting notion from the start.

4.) 14 Oct 2020 19:49:55
A particularly embarrassing and shameful moment from our owners your right Ed002.
Money is the route to all evil and our owners worship it sadly.

{Ed002's Note - Not great I am afraid. Manchester United owners and Rick Parry do not come out well either.}

5.) 14 Oct 2020 20:45:07
Well said juicer. This is another example of clubs self preservation during this period. However unpopular this latest effort, its more evidence of how far removed the clubs are from reality. But you shouldn't be afraid to point out that liverpool are one of a number of clubs to demonstrate this. despite the rather monotonous assertions of one particularly bitter individual.

6.) 14 Oct 2020 23:15:54
I agree Eds, this was embarassing and should have never happened.

7.) 15 Oct 2020 06:49:21
I am very close to losing interest in the game as money and its effects are ruining the game I love. It's making it less enjoyable for all concerned. Most of the clubs are the same, greedy so let's not just single out Liverpool ed2, as you said there are other clubs involved and all are as shameful as each other. I know u love to hate Liverpool but it does become a little tedious at times. Sorry but it's only natural to try and defend the club u love even when they are in the wrong.

{Ed002's Note - This was all about Liverpool. The idea was to find a way for the Liverpool owners to extort more money from the game as they desparately try and cover their losses and make the club more attractive to sell. They roped in the Manchester United owners to support this idea and the former Chief Executive of Liverpool. All of this was supported by threats and the exploitation of the pandemic which has put the future of numerous professional clubs at risks. I see the attempts to defend the Liverpool owners and spread the blame as pathetic I am afraid. I am sorry the truth has become tedious.}

8.) 15 Oct 2020 10:00:42
ED2 I think it's wrong what Liverpool, ManU and Parry attempted. Am I right in thinking ManCity, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea backed it?

{Ed002's Note - One of those clubs gave it support.}

9.) 15 Oct 2020 11:47:10
Ed would this be an "alternative " to the pan breakaway European league or are the clubs trying to use this idea as a kind of threat for the breakaway if you get my point, sorry if its a stupid question but most of these things have "back up/ alternative "motives.

{Ed002's Note - No it is nothing to do with the pan-European breakaway plans. The motivation is financial and the need to try and get the growth potential on an upward turn. FSG will need to start pondering what to do.}

10.) 15 Oct 2020 11:59:17
Thanks ed.

11.) 15 Oct 2020 12:14:53
Our owners should of sold up ages ago, never been behind them for a long time now, no care for the club at all, tried ripping fans off with ticket prices and got two fingers stuck up at them, we win the biggest trophies going and they come out and say, we will strengthen, they found out the cost of strengthening and balked, no club in this day and age shouldn't have their games on tv, the EFL should have their own ppv tv channel and keep the income.

{Ed002's Note - They have been hit harder than most by the pandemic.}

12.) 15 Oct 2020 12:40:23
Personally, I hope they sell. This whole thing is embarrassing.

13.) 15 Oct 2020 16:08:23
It seems to me that most comment and criticism is coming from those who wanted the PL season stopped, for varying motives.
The irony of which is the entire football pyramid, including the PL, would be in a much more precarious position than it already is.
The PL is driven by money and self-interest and its voting structure is such that the only safe thing that can be agreed upon is the status quo.
Any idea outside of this is problematic to say the least. If it wasn’t for the television companies and Govt. the football would not have resumed at all, so incapable is the PL of coming up with any solution by itself.
I’m not here to defend FSG on this but the reaction about supporting the lower tiers and grassroots football is also ironic. We had a structure that did that, it was called the Football League!

14.) 15 Oct 2020 22:10:37
I think it’s the things they would agree on that worries people, such as ensuring money is funnelled to those 6 clubs and blocking clubs from getting rich owners themselves.

15.) 15 Oct 2020 22:11:05
I was lambasted on here, back in April, when I said I would never forgive our owners for furloughing staff (then backtracked) . They are at it again, trying to screw as much money.

16.) 15 Oct 2020 22:11:55
The proposal intrigued me at first, then disappointed me as I read more into it. It was a move right out of an old mobster movie. The powerful seizing the opportunity to leverage the vulnerable to make a deal with the devil.

17.) 16 Oct 2020 19:57:15
The game is about money. If you don’t like that then don’t put your own money into it.
It’s quite honestly ridiculous for anyone to lambast owners of a premier league football club for trying to look after their investment and yes, make money.
We all have this romantic notion that the club is ours because our great grandparents stood on the terraces paying at the turnstiles. Those days are well and truly gone I’m afraid.
But hey it’s given the usual bitters another chance to call Liverpool the devil’s club just because no matter how much money they throw at it they’ll never get near us.



17 Jun 2019 17:13:48
Any truth to the rumours we are negotiating with Barcelona for dembele eds?

It's likely he'll leave Barcelona this summer with coutinho but some journalists are reporting we have been in touch with barca.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any negotiations.}

1.) 17 Jun 2019 20:40:41
3! Dembele questions in the space of two hours - all answered with the most minimal of fuss.
Just another thank you for all the you do and are (Ed) dies!

2.) 17 Jun 2019 22:11:35
If the stories about his off field behaviour are true- and let's face it, we don't know for sure do we- but if they are, then the club will be aware, and they will surely steer clear of his lad at £90m, however gifted he is.

3.) 18 Jun 2019 08:23:06
I hope not, Barcelona are like any club and made a desperate signing to appease fans that Neymar had gone, the lads not all that at all, hope we don't touch him.

4.) 18 Jun 2019 11:01:12
Hi Eds,

You say there has been no negotiations but is it a player we have an interest in?


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any discussions with Barcelona and again he would be a Salah replacement- or is he a Dembele replacement - who replaced Pepe who replaced Salah.

5.) 18 Jun 2019 12:29:34
Lol ed02. But again he plays on the opposite side to salah, same with sane. Dembele was looked at last year i remember, or there was a lot of talk. Macca predicted we'd sign him.

I think to call the lad "not all that" is way way off the mark. He's a fine footballer and i think he'd be brilliant in the premier league. A club like liverpool and a boss like klopp is just what the lad needs. Too young to write him off. Some are debating whether wilson should get a shot and the two lads are pretty close in age. Only one has played for dortmund and Barcelona the other has played for derby.

If we can sign him we should. I would see him more of a Danny Sturridge replacement than a Salah one. DS came to us as a forward/ winger who scored goals.

{Ed001's Note - the lad is an idiot of Neymar proportions though. Steer clear please.}



05 Apr 2019 10:13:05
Question for ed001 if possible,

I was curious about Keita. He's had a full season to adapt to the UK and seems to have really struggled. On the pitch he's not really shown that he can bring anything new or different to the team, which I assume was the purpose for buying him.

I'm sure that his lack of integration with the other players off the pitch and him not bothering to learn English are at least two key things.

My question is will Liverpool look to sell in the summer or does Klopp still feel he can coax something out of him?



{Ed001's Note - I expect him to stay. He was very close friends with Mane, it was hoped that would make him buck up his ideas. He won't be given for ever to sort his head out though.}

1.) 05 Apr 2019 11:37:32
I was really excited with the news we had finally agreed a deal for naby and was expecting him to have had a better season than he's having so far. I just cannot believe, if as pointed out by ed01 he has a poor attitude why he wouldn't grasp the chance he has with both hands. He has so much potential and so many positive attributes it would be such a waste of talent. Fingers crossed he pulls his finger out, so to speak.

2.) 05 Apr 2019 11:43:59
"Was" ed? Or am I reading too much into that sentence?

{Ed001's Note - no you're not. They are certainly not as close as they had been at RBS. Mane has grown up, Keita has not yet done so.}

3.) 05 Apr 2019 13:15:24
Something doesn't seem right with him, its almost like his not even trying. I really hope he comes good.

4.) 05 Apr 2019 13:52:35
Ed, thanks for the reply.
Makes me a bit sad tbh. For Keita. i know he has his baggage (described by ed002 previous) . Maybe we forget at times these guys might be millionaires but still are young kids in a foreign land.
Doing it with the expectations and then also not being as close with who may have been your guy once you arrive must be tough.
Hopefully things will get better for him and then - for him in the Liverpool team.

{Ed001's Note - it is his own fault, he has not made the efforts needed to get on. He had a year before joining to learn the language, it has now been nearly two years, and yet he has not bothered. For me that should have been written into his contract and should be included in all future contracts that a player has to learn English. You don't want a player being an Antonio Valencia and never bothering, it is not good for team spirit.}

5.) 05 Apr 2019 14:12:18
I read an interview by Mane today on the LFC website that states that Naby is a regular visitor to Mane's house, so they must still be at least civil to each other. From Mane's comments there doesn't appear to be any falling out or anything. But, hey, who knows?

{Ed001's Note - as close mate, I never said they were not friends, just not like they were. They were completely inseparable, best mates who did everything together. Mane now has other friends, they have not fallen out, they are just not as close.}

6.) 05 Apr 2019 19:04:24
Well he's starting tonight. Let's all hope he does the team proud.

7.) 06 Apr 2019 03:27:49
geez, started a fire under the worry worts there ed1. . .
keita will come right. I hope he'll come right, I don't think he's been a pile poo this season. So not a giant leap towards filling his potential with us. Mane is also older. ed1, for different reasons wouldn't you say Keita needs to mature just like Mane to improve his game?

{Ed001's Note - exactly what he needs.}

8.) 06 Apr 2019 10:20:46
Let's hope the goal last night inspires him to have a big end to the season minimum of 7 matches left this season let's go and smash them.

9.) 08 Apr 2019 14:14:52
Thanks for the reply ed. I got super busy so didn't read this until now.

I work as a psychologist in US sports and one of the first requirements of the teams I work with for incoming foreign players is to learn English.

Interestingly I consulted for a German Bundesliga team a couple of years ago and speaking English was also a requirement there too as it's considered a universal language which will benefit players wherever they go.

It really surprises me how often teams don't enforce a rule of players speaking the native language. It's pretty vital for team integration and communication and in my professional opinion I've advised it's not a good idea to simply have a couple of players speaking the same language as an incoming player because it creates cliques and tension.

Thanks again for the reply ed.

{Ed001's Note - this is the first time I have known of a Liverpool player not being required to speak English. Normally it is enforced strictly. I wonder if there is more to it with Keita, it is possible he just struggles with it and so there is not being pressure put on him because of that.}



26 Mar 2019 21:15:13
Federico Chiesa is taking English lessons.

Make of it what you will but the last time I posted this it was about coutinho about 6 months before we signed him.


1.) 27 Mar 2019 00:52:59
Ground , Italian footballer taking English lessons!

2.) 27 Mar 2019 01:20:29
Definitely going to Chelsea then - if he was really committed he’d be learning Scouse!

3.) 27 Mar 2019 10:43:42
Would love to see Chiesa in a Liverpool shirt. He is extremely mature as a player considering he's only 21. Scored a hat trick against Roma this season. Reminds me a lot of Sterling at the same age. It's only a matter of time before he starts scoring 20 goals a season.

4.) 27 Mar 2019 13:34:34
Heard a lot about this fella MK but never watched him play. Other than the sterling similarities do you know much else about him? I know he's very well thought of.

5.) 27 Mar 2019 14:10:08
Istanbul I've only seen him a when I've been watching Roma play Fiorentina. He has a low centre of gravity, protects the ball well at pace, and is pretty handy on either foot. He's predominantly a right footed right winger though. Very composed on the ball and in front of goal. He needs to work on his crossing and his one touch passing from what I've seen but he's such a superb talent. Those deficiencies can hold him back though as if a defender just stands off him he doesn't have the quality to deliver from deeper areas or the one touch passing brain to consistently play around them with a one-two. They rate him massively in Italy though and his potential is there for all to see. Klopp would get the best from him for sure.

{Ed002's Note - As a replacement for Salah then?}

6.) 27 Mar 2019 14:36:58
Question Ed002,

at what stage do the players we sign stop becoming replacements and start becoinmg additions to the squad. If we want a team to compete on all fronts without straining positions shouldn't we be looking to add more quality depth?

Obviously on the right its different with Shaqiri being there unless he was moved more central.

{Ed002's Note - The expectations of many of the fans are completely unrealistic with them thinking numerous £100M players will be added to give the squad depth. Liverpool are not in the position to make such purchases at all. Squad depth comes from having players who are content to come in and play when required and not players who demand playing time. Liverpool need decent cover for certain positions, not the “marquee” signings many of the fans expects the change in stance to try and buy the league cannot go on much longer.}

7.) 27 Mar 2019 16:11:59
C'mon Ed002 don't burst, we are only asking for Dybala, Chiesa, Icardi, Werner, Fekir, Depay, it is all doable. My uncle's mate's mechanic is in the know. Because his mailman's dog groomer once cut the arse hair of the gatekeeper's leopard at Melwood.

8.) 27 Mar 2019 16:17:04
Ed002, I didn't think Chiesa would have been a big Marquee signing, however I've just seen his €70 asking price. *gulp* I miss the days when you could get players like Torres for 24m.

Thanks Eds.

{Ed002's Note - I did not realise they dropped the price so far - a higher price was told to at least two sides who have held discussions with Fiji about him. Another side is looking for discussions as soon as they can - I will be able to find out what they are asked as well.}

9.) 27 Mar 2019 16:40:50
Maybe Ed002. If someone comes in with a huge offer and Salah wants to go, we'd be silly to force him to stay. Chiesa would be an ideal replacement. He's played 96% of Fiorentina's games according to Transfermarkt so I doubt he'd be interested in anything other than being an automatic starter. 12 goals before we're even in April is a good return considering he plays for a mid table team.

{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath about a move to Liverpool. Last week Dybala was @nailed on@.}

10.) 27 Mar 2019 16:49:10
Yeah of course Ed, I've already got Dybala 7 on the back of my replica shirt 😉.

11.) 27 Mar 2019 09:48:19
I don't think he is going to Chelsea they bought Pulisic.
He is a really Good in fm 2019! I bought him for Inter de Milan and Won the Serie A and Italy Cup.

12.) 28 Mar 2019 12:45:36
No reason not to keep tabs on the likes of Chiesa, Werner, Sancho, etc.

Not because we should spend 100m on backups, but because players' agents are talking to other clubs all the time (that's their job), and any sensible club will stay on top of the transfer market in case they need to find a replacement for any player at any time.

And yes, I'm talking specifically about our number 11.

After Torres, Suarez, Coutinho, etc I'm sure none of us are naive about how the football world works.

{Ed002's Note - What are you talking about ‘keep tabs on’ - how would the club do that?

13.) 28 Mar 2019 20:42:11
ed002, ever heard of a clubs scouting system, bit unfair all this sarcasm to genuine posters. blue nose getting a bit snotty?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about - you clearly have little understanding about the entire business which is perhaps why you have registered a new account to bitch and whine like this. Perhaps just an ignorant red nosed glifnard?}

14.) 28 Mar 2019 21:29:42
I think what everyone means is we were close to buying Fekir for a 50-60 million fee. I know Shaqiri has come in since but he could very well be sold next window as well, which would free up a space.

There’s no doubt we need to strengthen we all know that. However I can see a 50 million player arriving next window, it’s just how the windows are now.

To be honest I’m hoping for someone like Brandt, would be ideal for us and would slot into system easily.



30 Sep 2018 00:19:42
Why is Salah so poor at minute? Anyone know? His decision making is terrible right now.


1.) 30 Sep 2018 01:43:59
He's probably not recovered from last season. I don't mean physically, I meant mentally.
The guy has been embroiled in all kinds of rubbish from image rights disputes, to being hounded for being given an "honourary" citizenship of Chechnya. Then you've got to remember that he's expected to score another 40 goals this season.

Mans got a lot on his mind, let him chill and he'll start scoring again.

2.) 30 Sep 2018 02:17:28
Pressure and opposition.

He's getting like 3 seconds to make a decision before someone sweeps in and gets to him.

I'd chuck him up top with the Shaq on the right.

3.) 30 Sep 2018 07:04:26
I thought he played well last night. until the final ball.
He looked fairly sharp at times yesterday and is still getting himself into good positions wanting the ball, I will start to get worried if he goes quiet and the chances dry up.

4.) 30 Sep 2018 07:48:03
Think he needs a stretch on the sidelines to be honest. Similar to what Klopp is doing with Keita and Fabinho- ease him back gently. I do vaguely remember mind he was a bit off the boil at the start of last season because people were criticising his finishing so I think he will come out of it.

5.) 30 Sep 2018 09:22:16
He had a similar start at the beginning of last season.

6.) 30 Sep 2018 09:36:36
Has nobody come to the conclusion that for Salah to overcome this new hurdle that, rather than leaving him on the bench or changing his position, he simply needs to play through it.

Time on the bench will do very little, Salah simply needs to find his rhythmn again, get used to the pressure that opponents are putting on him and figure out ways of overcoming it on the pitch. Once he figures it out I have no doubt Salah will get back to his best.

In all honesty, I think the front 3 all need to play through this so that they can re-find that deadly connection which made us a formidable team last season. Everything feels forced now, or very last minute, there is little of the linking and interchanges that we saw last season that led to goals. Give them time, to assess and figure out new plays on the pitch and we will have the front 3 of last season once again.

This year will be a challenge but, I have to say, our midfield has really stepped up their game. Wijnaldum and Milner, in particular. It is almost like the signings of Fabinho and Keita has pushed them to be better, regalvanised them. Our defence seems to have a better understanding of their responsibilities, although I think our fullbacks need to be very careful that they do not push too far up and leave spaces in behind, ala Chelsea match yesterday.

Alisson, what a breath of fresh air that lad has. Without him, Chelsea would have gone away with three points. He is a very good shot stopper but, even better, he is excellent at ball distribution which is an added weapon in our arsenal.

This season looks promising and I hope, pray to anyone willing to listen, that we finally win a trophy. It has been a very, very long time after all. Once we overcome that hurdle, I think you will see a Liverpool side that plays with freedom, expression and everything Klopp's style of football is truly about.

Stay positive guys, think about where we were 5 years ago and look at us now. The difference is truly astounding.

{Ed001's Note - spot on. It takes games to find form and Salah took nearly half a season to explode last season.}

7.) 30 Sep 2018 09:38:28
He's scored 1 goal less than he had at this time last season.

8.) 30 Sep 2018 11:44:25
Agreed, we we’re all worried about the chances he was missing by this time last year. We need the front three firing, and as soon as salah takes a couple chances he will be fine. I think we need Keita to cement his place first, meaning they can’t double up on salah as easily, as then we will have Firmino mane and Keita to worry about still.

9.) 30 Sep 2018 12:13:33
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I wouldn't describe him as "poor".

The final ball and finish is missing atm, but his link up play is still good, his movement is good, his pace still terrifies defenders, he isn't hiding from the ball. I thought in the first half yesterday he played far better than either Mane or Firmino and was surprised when he was subbed after 65 minutes. He's not playing badly, it's just the finish is missing. That can happen to players for periods, it's not a major disaster.

He will start scoring again.

10.) 30 Sep 2018 12:20:02
Not worried just think whack him up top for a few games get him a couple of goals and then we can rejig things.


11.) 30 Sep 2018 12:25:18
He just needs to score a couple of good goals to get going again, I remember all the posts this time last year saying he was a flop because he didn’t score enough and his final touch was terrible etc.

12.) 30 Sep 2018 12:25:38
for me, salah needs to find more ways to impose himself on the game. He's starting to link up more around the box and create space / angles for himself and others, but too often he fades out of the game when his team mates aren't feeding him the ball. If he just gets himself involved in and around the box he'll continue to open more and more opportunities for himself and his team mates. Then when defenders get touch tight to cut out his link up play, then the space will open up behind. Just rekon he has to keep playing to figure that out. not sure whether a spell on the sidelines would help, cos I think he needs to play his way through this.

13.) 30 Sep 2018 18:16:16
Salah was poor? Really? I just disagree. Being football player, Salah is a nightmare playing against, and he was giving chelsea some serious problems. Currently only problem is his finishing. His movement and dribbling is superb. If he scored atleast one, we would all be praising him. Give the man some rest and get of his back. This will not help, esp with stupid media already writing about 'poor' Salah.

14.) 30 Sep 2018 18:20:21
I think Mo is doing okay and although I might be interpreting this wrong I am convinced he has been affected by the Egyptian FA argument and the fact that one of those persons made a lightly veiled threat against his mother. Khaled Lateif, an EFA board member, warned Mo, that while he no longer resided in Egypt, his mother did.

“I’d like to remind @MoSalah that your mother is still in Egypt. You are abroad and can do as you wish. Those who understand, understand. ”

Lateif appeared to make the remarks shortly after Salah posted two videos on his official Facebook page criticising the EFA for the country’s poor World Cup campaign. Also don't forget, Magdy Abd El Gany, another senior member of Egyptian FA, also launched an attack on Salah on Tuesday, this time calling him a pig (Pigs are an animal considered ritually unclean in Islam and believers are prohibited from consuming them) .

“Here is a picture of me with four players and a pig in white, ” Abdulghani said in a caption accompanying an image of himself, Mo Salah and four other footballers. This is disgraceful to say the least! I find their politicisation of football and their constant flouting of FIFA rules to be worthy of sanctions by FIFA.

15.) 30 Sep 2018 18:44:50
A hat trick against City next Sunday and he'll be back on track 😃.

16.) 30 Sep 2018 19:37:35
He’s a guy that’s gone from 0 to 100 in one season. When we signed him everyone, including our own fans ere underwhelmed and not much was expected of him. He has that season and now everyone wants a piece of him.
The stuff with the EFA hasn’t helped but neither has the amount of awards ceremonies and individual accolades he’s won. He seems to be at a different awards night every week.
Nobody from Egypt has ever been under this much scrutiny so I would imagine it’s a bit of a culture shock to him it’s just not normal for so much to be expected of an Egyptian footballer.
I’m sure once things calm down a bit he’ll be able to get his head back in the game he’s been caught in a bit of a whirlwind over the past few months.

17.) 30 Sep 2018 20:49:06
If I remember correctly last season Salah had a slow-ish start and I remember the city game in particular he had 3 or 4 really good chances and failed to convert them. Obvs we know what happened after that and the score line looked like we got a drubbing from city but in all fairness we was right in that game until the manè red. Salah is only human and he will have a few bad patches but let's get behind him as class will prevail and he will come through this with flying colours.

18.) 30 Sep 2018 21:18:10
As most have pointed out the guys got a lot on his plate, last season would be a hard act to follow he's still getting in the right places working hard doing all the right things he will be scoring again soon just let him plod through it, a couple against City and he will be off and running again,

19.) 01 Oct 2018 06:30:53
nobody is really firing just yet which makes it so exciting. When we click, well omg, this has the feeling of something special happening, how many times in our hayday did we score really late, sometimes in injury time, sometimes we were ordinary but we still got points, just like we have done so far this season. Sturridge missed a sitter, so did Shaq, and now Salah. Just means its getting closer to us giving someone a hiding and kicking on, something that looks so much better from the top of the ladder rather than 8 points off the pace. Come on guys, so far ahead of last season already!

20.) 01 Oct 2018 10:07:23
Salah and the rest of the team getting a lot of grief on here the last few days, some hard to please folk about, it was hardly a terrible performance away from home at one of the best teams in the league. Oh, and we didn't lose for those who seem to think we did.

21.) 01 Oct 2018 14:13:10
I remember when Fowler had a drought and when Evans was asked about it he replied as long as he still getting in the positions and having the chances it will come, Mo is still getting in the positions still getting chances so give it time. You all have to admit expecting another 40+ goal season was a dream of sheer ecstasy.

22.) 01 Oct 2018 15:11:53
I'm sorry I haven't time to read the whole thread atm, only respond to the OP, because I take exception to this question being asked over and over. He has not been 'so poor', he's just lacing a little bit of his sharpness that he had in abundance last season but it will come. He is still frightening the pants off defenders and getting into those Oh-So-Salah type positions. I've said it repeatedly benching him would be the worst thing to do and I'm glad Klopp agrees. On the other hand, it is just really nice to have another option now that we didn't have last season. Plenty of games coming and both he and Shaq will be needed.

PS: I think it's time to give Keita a run of starts.

23.) 01 Oct 2018 17:22:41
Relax! Salah is contributing, remains a threat in behind and has more shots on target than every other player in the league. He could have had a couple on sat but the goals will come.

Too many people listening to media hype instead of looking at things rationally. The front 3 in general haven’t quite clicked yet but WHEN they do someone is getting a pasting!




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24 Apr 2021 19:32:19
You'll have to forgive some of what I say as it's related to US ice hockey and not football but some of what I'll say is transferrable.

I've seen people asking why the team has collapsed this year. A few people (notably ed001) mentioned the lack of time on the training pitch due to the condensed season.

I'd say this is pretty accurate. I worked as team psychologist for a US hockey team during a shortened season where they too had an injury crisis in defence.
The issues in defence led to playing inexperienced players there and almost all of whatever tactical coaching time there was ended up being spent working with the defence to help them get up to speed. This meant other areas of the team had far less coaching time and their game suffered as a result.

I think this is probably happening at Liverpool. Which explains why areas of the pitch are suddenly lacking now. Contrary to popular belief players do need consistent coaching all through the season both on long term goals and game by game goals or they become less fluid, flexible and adaptable.

It seems counter intuitive to think professionals at the top of their game and some of the best in the entire world would need coaching but they absolutely do.

The issue for me isn't why we are fading this year, I think the issue is that it's likely to happen next year too thanks to the new European formats and the extra games in the calender, so how will klopp combat this next year.

They need to start preparing now and split coaching priorities a bit more evenly.


{Ed001's Note - the new European formats are not coming in until 2024/5 season mate.}

1.) 24 Apr 2021 19:56:07
Sadly the amount of missed chances we had today and this season cannot be blamed solely on us missing some of our defence. We scored 7 against Palace with Fab and Matip in defence. And we were top of the league in Dec despite losing Vvd and Gomez in Oct. Yes it’s 100% weakened us but today and a lot of games since Christmas our finishing and build up play has been Sunday league standard. Season is a right off but we go again next season.

2.) 24 Apr 2021 20:39:57
Our finishing issues do not date from today. It has been problem since last season BUT cos we had a defence that could shut the oppo. down, we would win games by one goal even tho, we had enuff chances to win by 3/ 4 or 5 sometimes.

Now that our defence is weaker, the poor finishing is even more glaring and annoying right now. We literally screwed ourselves out of 2 wins in the past 2 games and we have no one else to blame but ourselves. If we don’t fix our issues in front of goal going into next season, we will struggle again regardless of our defence being better.

3.) 25 Apr 2021 08:40:24
JK23 - the problems in defence have been and still are a major issue though JK. OK we did win games without VVD and were top at Christmas, but teams can manage like this on a short term basis, and don't forget we still had Matip playing very well at the back. We also had Henderson in the middle.

When Matip got injured that changed things so much for me. I think with our full strength defence we win last week and yesterday - but we are where we are.

I thought our build up play was really good yesterday, but you are right, the finishing was woeful.

4.) 25 Apr 2021 08:50:46
Kbl I said the missing defence has weakened us 100% mate. I just don’t see how that’s turned our finishing into Sunday league.

5.) 25 Apr 2021 09:17:45
You're right ed got my dates mixed up but it just means klopp (or whoever) will still have this problem in a couple of years time.

6.) 25 Apr 2021 09:18:04
It's nothing to do with lack of time on the training pitch, it's the same for everyone.



21 Apr 2021 08:49:07
Were all going to read what we want to in his apology. And to say it's a response to backlash is fair - it's pretty rare in all walks of life that apologies happen without backlash.

However I find the actual wording of the apology to be interesting.

He repeatedly separates himself from the staff and players (even executive staff) refers to it as our club (as in the fans) and does not include himself in our in group.

His writer is a very good one who managed to absolve all executive staff, playing staff and management at the same time as making himself solely culpable and keeping a distance between himself and the club.

Essentially he's made it so if the premier League are to punish anyone it would look unjust to punish the club when he's made it clear they had nothing to do with it.

Its a written and performed apology no doubt, but it's well written and considered and seems to be either performed well or genuine.


1.) 21 Apr 2021 09:46:55
Agreed Nevada he is either a very good actor or is indeed genuinely sorry. I might be naive but I prefer to believe the latter. Yes there will be a lot of people screaming FSG out but who are we going to replace them with?

2.) 21 Apr 2021 10:07:16
How can it be anything other than a lie? He said that it was never going to go ahead without the fans’ blessing?!?! Erm well if that was the case then why didn't you ask us instead of doing this behind our backs for years and then leaving us to riot when we found out?

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3.) 21 Apr 2021 10:38:20
I suspect they massively underestimated the backlash they would get. Although I suppose, they would have known if they had consulted the fans first. I do not neccesary think he was lying, I do believe it was a misjudgment of decision making. These things happen in businesses all the time and it is always difficult to backtrack.

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20 Apr 2021 21:35:18
The danger now of course is that FSG can't sell and instead just decide to bleed us dry until someone buys the club. No more transfers, no competitive wages.

They are businessmen and were always in this for the money, if they can't get the super League and can't sell the club the only other way to make money is to take whatever profits we make and siphon it out of the club.


1.) 20 Apr 2021 21:44:01
But if we are not in the CL there won’t be any money to take out.

2.) 20 Apr 2021 21:44:17
Why would they do that? They need to protect their assets.

3.) 20 Apr 2021 21:51:02
Spot on. Now they'll have "Massive excuse' of not signing quality players or even renewing player's contract who are already on massive wages.

4.) 20 Apr 2021 21:54:02
Genuinely don’t see many being able to afford it, perhaps a Chinese company could benefit from buying and increasing the brand out there to make it a worth while investment. No idea, it is the beginning of the end tho in many ways even with a u turn klopp and players will be hurt.

5.) 20 Apr 2021 22:05:00
That’s my fear as well Nevada.

6.) 20 Apr 2021 22:10:08
Just saw yesterday when people were debating abt ESL they showed there's more money in EPL then CL including the price money.

7.) 20 Apr 2021 22:14:14
We are screwed because if they stay we are the “outcasts”, potentially kicked out of the League and Europe. Not to mention the fact that they won’t be heavily investing, especially after this whole mess. Best case scenario, which has been explained will be difficult due to valuation of the club. But, that is finding a buyer and the new owners coming in a trying to wipe the slate clean and mend bridges with other clubs and authorities.

{Ed002's Note - How about a North Korean dictator who could pay to relocate the club. Lovely grey kit with gold stars and red piping.}



20 Apr 2021 21:20:54
Seen a lot of hypocritical fans on here lately asking for Dubai consortium to buy the club.

If that happens either y'all need to protest or y'all need to apologise to city fans.




18 Apr 2021 20:28:32
Question for ed002 please,

Sorry for it being another super League question but.

I would assume the club's signed up to this already would have at the very least had conversations with broadcasters regarding rights and financial packages or they would not have got this far.

Any idea which broadcasters may have been involved and what kind of agreements may be suggested?



{Ed002's Note - Not directly. Previously others looking at similar ideas have talked with broadcasters. There will certainly not have been discussions about costs or agreements. The “elite” sides are meeting this week and some clubs fall in to both groups so it will be interesting to see what they come up with. To some extent this is no more than another attempt at Project Big Foot from Liverpool and Manchester United last year.}

1.) 18 Apr 2021 21:34:07
Project big foot? Wasn’t that yet another tournament? Wouldn’t that be ironic after klopp talking about playing too many fixtures in short period of times.




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03 May 2021 13:37:15
I prefer macca, he's a tad biased but he's pretty fair and definitely not a knee jerk reactionist.


{Ed0666's Note - Macca isnt exactly interesting and offers little in the way of analysis. Don’t get me started in steve nicol. ESPN have awful pundits.



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09 Mar 2021 15:06:21
The posts make me laugh. Its like reading the United page.

So mane and firmino are playing badly and we should move them on. to who?

They're on good wages which rules out most of the smaller teams (if they would go there anyway) . one who by most people's account has been awful for 2.5 years and one who has been so bad I actually think he's a detriment to the team right now, no big team with money is looking at these two players and thinking of shelling out £50m+. Right now they are £15m players in this climate and with their form.

You can't build a team around their sales because they won't bring in enough money, which is why selling Salah makes more sense (if you're selling anyone) because you can actually get some good players in for the £50+m that people WILL pay for him.

We'd be lucky to get £50m combined for Bobby and mane. You can't get good prices for goods which look like they're broken.




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06 Jan 2021 19:57:40
The rumour is we have offered alaba 10m a year for three years.




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06 Oct 2020 10:57:11
I feel like I can add something here as I did meet mino once and had a chat with him. I think I've posted the conversation before but I'll give the broad strokes here.

From the perspective of an agent, they feel they are worth their money because their job is to get the best possible financial deal for their client. They believe they're the only ones solely focused on their clients finances (clubs largely want to use the players talent and would not be focused on finance at all )

He (mino) said "footballers career is short. They spend much while they play. Its my job to make sure when the career is finished they still have money to spend and don't need to work in supermarket. Why should I negotiate millions for my clients and peanuts for myself? "

He also alluded a few times to the fact many executives in football get paid huge sums.

I'm not saying that his view is 100% correct, because it's not. But it's also not wrong either. Before agents had the power they do now footballers were paid significantly less and many footballers even at pro level had no money beyond their career.




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28 Aug 2020 10:19:05
Chiesa is deceptively good with his weaker foot. He'd be fine either side.





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03 May 2021 15:33:40
You know what the level of violence should be at any protest - zero. Its the only acceptable number.

People can say "oh it's just a small number" but ghandi and countless others for hundreds of years have enacted change with non violent peaceful protest.

The acceptable number is zero.




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25 Apr 2021 09:23:11
ED077 - you're right it was a 10% stake of FSG not Liverpool specifically so I shall retract what I said, maybe they would take 3bn just for the club.


{Ed077's Note - I would think 3bn is slightly overpriced for LFC so FSG would accept that sort of a bid.}



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25 Apr 2021 09:17:45
You're right ed got my dates mixed up but it just means klopp (or whoever) will still have this problem in a couple of years time.




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25 Apr 2021 09:16:35
If they sold a 10% stake at 500m then that places the valuation (from FSG ) at 5bn.

Can't see them selling for less and Def not 3bn as that's almost half of FSG evaluation of the club.


{Ed077's Note - was the 10% stake for the whole of FSG's different ventures or just LFC?}



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22 Apr 2021 13:26:27
Isn't konate made of glass as well? I'm sure he's barely played.


{Ed077's Note - he has missed quite a few games through injuries this past couple of seasons, particularly last season.}