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15 Nov 2024 07:37:40
Chiesa will be leaving in January. As I said before he signed he is homesick, does not like living in the uk and wants to go back to Italy.
Don't know if it will be a permanent move or loan move (I suspect loan with option) but he won't be a Liverpool player after January.
1.) 15 Nov 2024 08:49:52
Once fit, his value in italy would likely be at least double what we paid. let's give him a chance to get fit and see what he brings.
2.) 15 Nov 2024 09:09:57
I don't know what his problem is, the Mersey is the Lake Garda of the North of England!
3.) 15 Nov 2024 09:25:43
Not buying it, looks happy in recent footage I’ve seen and if he didn’t want to sign for Liverpool he would have stayed in Italy. Not been long enough to be homesick.
4.) 15 Nov 2024 09:33:04
@Stuie, don’t forget Ainsdale Beach, rivals anything the Italians have to offer ?.
5.) 15 Nov 2024 09:37:24
I'd be very surprised if he moved on in January.
6.) 15 Nov 2024 10:36:42
WDW, give me a Scouse bird, rollers in hair, fake tan and dressing gown on whilst in the local bargain booze over some sultry, well dressed Italian woman any day of the week!
7.) 15 Nov 2024 10:47:22
From James Pearce:
"Liverpool are basically giving him a mini pre-season in the hope that he can build up his fitness levels. It’s about handling the intensity of the training.
It’s too soon to write off Chiesa and there’s no truth in the rumours that Liverpool are already thinking about offloading him.
He played 37 times for Juventus last season, so it’s not like he arrived at Anfield after an injury-plagued campaign. He was cheap at £10million because he was down to the final year of his contract and they wanted him off the wage bill. "
8.) 15 Nov 2024 11:52:33
"As I said before he signed he is homesick, does not like living in the uk and wants to go back to Italy. "
He was homesick and didn't like living in the UK before he moved to the UK? That is some foresight mate.
9.) 15 Nov 2024 12:06:19
OP you’ve already asked one of the Ed’s this question if Chiesa is leaving Liverpool and you’re basically repeating what he posted, oh and didn't you say we’ve also signed Zubimendi, so I’ll take this post with a pinch of salt.
10.) 15 Nov 2024 15:13:21
I keep seeing these rumblings but I can't see that happening. Who knows though, seems like LFC were a bit ambitious adding him. They have an abundance of attackers.
11.) 15 Nov 2024 17:09:38
How can he be homesick before he signed?
12.) 15 Nov 2024 19:36:03
Id like to give Chiesa a few kicks of a ball at least before judging him. Hopefully he can get up to speed fitness wise.
13.) 16 Nov 2024 10:01:01
I seem to remember Robbo and Fabinho hardly kicked a ball in their first six months . and Tsimikas struggled in his first season.
He will be just what we need when the silverware is up grabs.
14.) 16 Nov 2024 11:57:57
To clarify I said previously that he is a player who gets homesick easily.
Now I'm saying that what some people thought would happen, is happening.
And yes I was wrong about zubimendi, things can change quickly in football. I was also the only person saying we would sign coutinho (even eds didn't think it would happen) and I also said that higuain wouldn't move to Chelsea either at a time when everyone thought he'd come to the uk.
I've got a few wrong before, I just pass on what I get told which is usually just restricted to Italian football but sometimes Madrid as well.
Id be happy to be wrong.
15.) 16 Nov 2024 13:03:54
Just ribbing you Nevada mate. I hope you are wrong on this one and Chiesa can come through for us. At least we have 5 other good options in attack either way.
16.) 16 Nov 2024 13:15:02
If he’s not happy there’s no point in keeping him, I expect he’ll go on loan or on a free.
An unhappy player is not worth what you paid for them.
£10m loss, poor scouting.
Someone took a punt on him and failed.
I’d rather we give our kids more game time. We’ve some good ones who need to play.
17.) 16 Nov 2024 20:55:21
Nevada, where are you getting this info about Chiesa leaving in Jan cos he is homesick?
18.) 17 Nov 2024 08:14:47
I am still not buying the revision to “I have said previously he is a player who gets homesick easily”.
I am no expert on homesickness but I do know Italy really well. Chiesa was born in Genoa, which is bang in the middle of Florence and Turin, which are 273 miles apart. He has only played for Fiorentina and Juventus, so “as a player” I struggle with this comment.
19.) 17 Nov 2024 10:43:51
He's going nowhere.
20.) 17 Nov 2024 20:59:21
@Olired
Any info I get comes from players agents, club staff and with certain clubs executives near the top but not at the top.
All within italian clubs and Madrid. Sometimes I hear info about other teams outside those clubs but I don't usually post that as it is usually less reliable.
I was once told that Sandro tonali was taking English lessons about 14 months before he came to prem league, though I didn't know or post where he would go. He ended up at Newcastle and that came from an extremely famous ex Brescia player. that was a one off though.
21.) 18 Nov 2024 00:06:21
Waste of time taking English lessons if you’re going to Geordieland.
22.) 18 Nov 2024 08:02:00
@Ron Keague I'm not sure anybody knew where he was going at the time. Sounds like a wild thing to say but the person who gave me the info knows sandro personally and the fact he didn't know what club Sandro was going to tells me that perhaps Sandro himself didn't until very late in the process.
This is just speculation on my part now but I think perhaps the reason he came to uk was for the money given his gambling issues.
23.) 18 Nov 2024 09:48:58
Wasn’t tonali sold against his will? I remember he was quite unwilling to go to Newcastle but Milan needed to raise some money, didn’t seem like he was eagerly plotting to come to the prem a year in advance.
24.) 18 Nov 2024 18:10:10
I trust Nev (ada) ’s posts on this. ?.
25.) 18 Nov 2024 18:10:23
Chiesa will not be leaving in January.
26.) 18 Nov 2024 21:17:05
I miss ed2….
25 Oct 2024 08:59:22
Hi eds,
Are the club looking to loan chiesa back to Italy? Not sure how that's going to help him at all and if true seems like chiesa was a buy similar to minamino, one done just because the player was very cheap and could be flipped for profit.
{Ed002's Note - Federico Chiesa (LW/F) Apparently not entirely happy and with injury problems the player could easily be deemed surplus to needs regardless of only joining in the summer. A Richard Hughes mistake, I assume made when Diaz was restless. A loan may make sense.}
1.) 25 Oct 2024 09:44:09
God, what a mess.
What happened Ed? He seems so happy when he joined.
What has made him unhappy?
{Ed002's Note - He has been injured and there is no real place in the side for him.}
2.) 25 Oct 2024 10:34:27
It really is going well with Hughes isn’t it. A worrying January transfer market round the corner for him to have another balls up!
3.) 25 Oct 2024 10:56:43
I remember thinking at the time he must be coming in to replace Diaz, so was surprised when Diaz stayed.
4.) 25 Oct 2024 11:20:59
Slot saying he might resume training today. I still think he has the potential to be a good signing. If he's fit and up to speed (don't forget that he had no pre season at all so was majorly behind the other players even before picking up his injury) he will get minutes and could be a huge benefit over manic Christmas period.
On Wednesday when Mo and Nunez were taken off to prepare for Sunday we lost so much threat up top. The opportunities to impress will be there, hopefully he can take them.
5.) 25 Oct 2024 11:24:26
Not that I doubt Ed’s saying Chiesa is unhappy but the player has to realise
a) he’s had no real pre season,
b) he’s trying to rebuild his footballing career and he’s lucky to be able to do it at a club like Liverpool and
c) he’s injured.
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He has limited his own ability to play more mins by not being match fit and when he could have got games/ mins in recent weeks he’s been injured.
He’s been at the club for a minute and needs to cop himself on.
If he stays match fit there will be ample mins for him this season.
6.) 25 Oct 2024 11:58:20
He's not happy about being injured? That's not really anyone's fault though is it. Surely he needs to give it a chance. All seems a bit premature.
7.) 25 Oct 2024 13:11:23
Crazy when pegged as signing of the summer. Plenty of opportunities to play over the season if he gets himself fit. Hopefully will get some minutes in carabao cup next week.
8.) 25 Oct 2024 17:19:22
It always seemed very clear that 6 established attackers is too many. I never understood this move even though I like the player.
9.) 25 Oct 2024 18:02:48
I don't know how so many people believe the crap that journos say. Its like some don't understand that journos have to keep themselves in a job by making up stuff that will get clicks or sell papers. Some just seem to want an excuse to slate hughes and/ or the club. I very much doubt chiesa will go out on loan in jan, when have we ever bought a senior player and loaned them out 6 months later? Utter tripe.
10.) 25 Oct 2024 18:14:31
Ben Davies 2021.
11.) 25 Oct 2024 18:15:54
Christ almighty he's been here 2 minutes after missing pre season. He'll be fine especially with the little sum we paid for him.
12.) 25 Oct 2024 18:16:35
A non story for me.
13.) 25 Oct 2024 19:57:07
Writing players off after 5 minutes is typical of the press/ rumour mongers.
Lets give Fede a chance .
14.) 25 Oct 2024 20:04:41
Correct endo, that transfer was for emergency cover with a transfer fee of less than a million, not a Italian Euros winner. Regardless, I stand by my opinion this story is a load of bull.
15.) 25 Oct 2024 21:01:54
It’s probably a bit more like Arthur if anything. That said it’s different circumstances and I agree it’s just the Italian press throwing excrement at a wall to see if anything sticks.
The most positive thing about the thread is an attack on Hughes - we haven’t seen one for a while, so it’s nice to see a bit of knife sharpening before the January window.
16.) 25 Oct 2024 21:48:37
Chiesa just remind me of Aquilani.
17.) 26 Oct 2024 08:10:33
@Lee, very insightful call as they are both Italian footballers.
@Longthing, what would yo say is going wrong at the club? Genuine question.
We are top of the PL, joint top of the CL qualification table and have got off to the best start to a season in at least 3 and a half decades. That’s not speculation from either over or under cooked imaginations or expert (for want of a better phrase) pundit analysis or Spanish / Italian press agendas or nutters on fans forums passing their uninformed opinions off as fact - it’s actual fact.
18.) 25 Oct 2024 18:06:51
Ed2, could Chiesa even be loaned out in Jan? I thought there were limits on the number of clubs a player could play for within a set time frame?
{Ed002's Note - Yes, he has not played for Juventus this season.}
19.) 25 Oct 2024 20:59:40
Evening ed002.
Do you mean the player isn’t happy or the club isn’t happy?
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed002's Note - I rather doubt either are happy with the situation. The player, when fit, is not getting chances at Liverpool and it is difficult to see how he fits in to the team.}
20.) 26 Oct 2024 09:56:52
It was always a dumb signing.
Don’t sign injured players.
Haven’t we learned our lesson yet?
Besides that, he was never good enough in my opinion.
21.) 26 Oct 2024 09:58:47
Quite a fascinating thread. A clear difference between those who believe anything they read (especially if it paints the club in a negative light) and those who realise that a rumour is just exactly that and question it.
22.) 26 Oct 2024 10:14:01
@mftonjes, of the 6, Jota and Chiesa are out injured and Diaz seems to being managed due to fatigue. At the moment it looks like we have Gakpo, Nunez and Salah. If either Nunez / Gakpo as left and central attackers are injured or Mo on the right the 6 becomes 2 and with about another 100 matches between now and the end of the year it is unlikely to get better.
23.) 26 Oct 2024 12:37:31
I'm not entierly sure I believe any of this, apart from him and the club being unhappy with his injuries.
I may be a game out but I'm sure he has only been available for 4 or 5 games, 2 of which he came of the bench and I think it was 1 or 2 starts as well. So the game time for me is a moot point. It may be doen to poisition because he has played centrally more than on the wing.
24.) 26 Oct 2024 14:37:54
I am surprised by this rumour. He got a start vs West Ham and then got injured. I don't think he's been available for selection since then so I don't see how he can be frustrated with anything other than the injury.
If he was available, I suspect he would have been the sub for Salah on Wednesday, rather than Lucho. And if fit, he will presumably be in line to start vs Brighton in the cup. Mo's minutes have to be managed after all.
Seems like a non-story to me. Unless he thinks he is not injured. Or perhaps he doesn't like the food, weather or dying pit ponies. Ed's favourite reasons.
25.) 26 Oct 2024 22:58:02
He’s never going to be fit enough to play in the premier league. He needs to go to France or Holland or Saudi. The game is too intense over here, if you’re a sicknote then you’re wasting everyone’s time.
It was a desperation signing, total waste of money.
He reminds me more of Jean Michel Ferri.
26.) 27 Oct 2024 01:23:58
Completely agree with you Ron.
27.) 27 Oct 2024 04:58:21
For those who said its just press talk, I didn't hear it via the press. He came up in conversation with someone who is part of management structure at an Italian club. I didn't even know it was in the press when I asked the question.
28.) 27 Oct 2024 09:55:47
Thanks Nev ?.
16 Aug 2024 02:44:45
Read In the press that we will loan mamardashvili to Bournemouth for one year. Is that a misprint ed001/ 02?
Surely it is?
{Ed002's Note - The rules do not allow Liverpool to buy the player and loan him to Bournemouth. Bournemouth could take him on loan from from Valencia and then Liverpool buy him next summer. There would certainly then need to be oversight of the transaction.}
1.) 16 Aug 2024 08:49:01
Interesting, I have never heard of that rule. Would you have any more info about why wouldn’t be able to buy a player and then loan him out?
{Ed002's Note - I can help what you don't know. The rule is simple, a club cannot buy a player then loan him out to another PL side in the same window.}
2.) 16 Aug 2024 09:06:23
It’s all messy. So unprofessional.
3.) 16 Aug 2024 09:53:13
Not that messy Mark, just made more complicated by the rules.
We want to buy him now (presumably as we can get a good deal and he is keen) but he needs first team football. Would be better for us for him to get PL experience rather than go overseas.
We could have bought him and then loaned him to Germany, Spain, Italy etc (that's allowed) but just not to a PL club.
So we do a similar deal to the Naby deal - agree to buy him for a set price in 2025 (whether Jan or summer) and in the meantime, Bournemouth loan him from Valencia.
According to reports, us and Valencia were €5m apart on the fee, Bournemouth are paying a €5m loan fee for the season which makes up the shortfall.
Not completely straightforward, but a clever deal that gives 3 clubs what they want, as well as the player.
{Ed001's Note - it is just a complete waste of time and money. We don't need a keeper but we are buying one that we don't even want yet anyway. Idiocy not good planning. Good planning would have been getting the contracts sorted and buying players we do bloody need. Instead we have this shambles of a recruitment policy that is almost as inept as Chelsea's.}
4.) 16 Aug 2024 09:51:55
That seems pretty clear cut then. It's funny how crap the press are that they all regurgitate this story without even checking if it's actually possible.
5.) 16 Aug 2024 11:29:04
ED01 - Hughes is way out of his depth.
6.) 16 Aug 2024 11:49:50
I disagree Ed1. I don't think there is a plethora of good goalkeepers available on the market these days. If the club feel he has potential to be one of the top goalkeepers in the world, I think it is good future-proofing as long as he is loaned out so he is playing regularly. Goalkeeper was a dodgy department for us for several years after Reina's decline, Mignolet and Karius. I think the club are wise to guard against this.
On a similar note, do you think the current trend of stocking up on goalkeepers so you can rotate them is bad for goalkeeping in general? I personally don't think it is good that so many of them now aren't getting enough minutes and consistency.
{Ed001's Note - nonsense. We have 3 good young keepers on the books and it is just Chelsea level stupidity to buy another.}
7.) 16 Aug 2024 12:27:30
Those 3 young goalkeepers aren't going to be good enough to replace Alisson and it would be foolish to bank on them being so. If you have genuine belief that they can get to that level, then we can always sell Mamardashvili after a couple of years, probably for a profit, no harm done. Mamardashvili is much more likely to get to that level than any goalkeeper currently on our books. Chelsea's approach is a lot more scattergun.
8.) 16 Aug 2024 12:58:57
Babbity obviously you’ve watched him play how many games? Probably seen him play at euros and that’s it…. absolutely nothing wrong with kell, he should be given the opportunity to take over the No1 spot after alli goes. Atleast give him a full season before looking for another keeper. 30m on a keeper to loan back out is a farce when we are in need of better squad players and that’s the way it should be done. Vvd and salah need replacing first and foremost.
9.) 16 Aug 2024 14:35:11
Thanks for confirming to me the games I've watched Magico. And people who know a lot better than me rate him as one of the top young goalkeepers in the world.
And there were actually a fair few things wrong with Kelleher last season. Wolves is about his level. The problem with your logic anyway is Kelleher wants to be a starter now and Alisson isn't leaving yet.
10.) 16 Aug 2024 15:32:07
I’m with Ed001. Whilst I think he looks pretty good, why is this the focus of our efforts? We’re already days into these negotiations and it appears to be that we can only operate on one deal at any given time. If this lingers into next week (which it probably will given how the window has gone) it’s just going to create more drama in the fanbase.
It’s a masterclass by Liverpool. By leaving everything until the last minute, I’d now be happy just to get confirmation TAA and VVD agree to stay. I just hope they both believe in the direction of the club as neither is going to be short of suitors.
If we sell VDB I still hold out hope we might bring in a CB before the close of the window ?.
11.) 16 Aug 2024 18:11:03
a move for the georgian GK is frustrating to hear about. sure, it's a good value buy, but at what opportunity cost when it comes to the time resources of the recruitment team? LFC also need to pay more respect to the timing/ optics of moves and how that impacts the general culture around the fanbase. they're setting up their new manager for an opening stretch to his debut season that gives him little good will to start with and also virtually zero margin for error. LFC really need to tighten things up administratively and professionally as they head into the fall of 2024.
08 Aug 2024 00:19:25
To echo what others have said I have been told zubimendi will join Liverpool.
1.) 08 Aug 2024 06:34:45
Whilst UTD look to Berge! Go UTD.
2.) 08 Aug 2024 07:28:20
Hopefully it's true, he has v good reputation. I don't know awful lot about him but thought he excellent in euro final when he came on for rodri. spain played much better in 2nd half when he on.
If lfc to progress we definitely needed to do get somebody top class in that position, it's been a problem for a while now.
3.) 08 Aug 2024 07:54:13
He’s a bit underwhelming for a first signing for me and I have concerns about his passing and physicality and those of you expecting Alonso MK 2 are going to be disappointed.
Good analysis on you tube for him
Pythagoras in boots.
4.) 08 Aug 2024 08:12:49
Victor and Walter have competition ?.
5.) 08 Aug 2024 08:32:50
Wow, underwhelming ?? if we manage to sign him I’m pretty certain you’ll be wishing you could retract that statement, the fact he’s turned down Madrid Bayern and arsenal already tells you he’s a class act, I think he looks a perfect fit but thought he was un obtainable, he will absolutely improve the starting 11, other than youth players with massive potential the only players we should be buying are the ones that improve the first team.
6.) 08 Aug 2024 08:37:50
Easy does it Casey. I’ll admit my preference is for Ederson, but can’t at all complain about Zubimendi, he’s not a 7 stone weakling by any stretch and by all accounts he has a fantastic football brain as well as a good work ethos. If we pull this off it is a great signing.
7.) 08 Aug 2024 08:48:41
Great signing for the holding negative position. Breaks down hope and aspirations admirably. Welcome Casey to the squad.
8.) 08 Aug 2024 09:03:43
Vv I agree Ederson would probably of been my preference probably more based on his performance against us last season.
9.) 08 Aug 2024 09:06:09
@Casey, Pythagoras does decent analysis, however also look at the review they did of Mac Allaister when we were about to sign. Also an underwhelming review, to be fair later came and said they were wrong so don't nail your analysis of Zub on Pythagoras opinion solely.
10.) 08 Aug 2024 09:06:56
Zubi can guide Baj and Neyoni to greatness aswell.
11.) 08 Aug 2024 09:07:57
Regarding zubemendis stature/ physicality I think it’s irrelevant as I think bajectic will assume that role and will no doubt have made the position his own by December if he can stay fit and off the treatment table.
12.) 08 Aug 2024 09:20:08
We are competing in 4 comps, all of which I assume we are taking dead seriously. He WILL come in handy, no doubt.
13.) 08 Aug 2024 09:22:04
I'm still not convinced this one will happen, all the noise seems to come from Journos saying words like 'exploring' or 'considering'. There doesn't seem to be any agreement with his club, although we know what is needed to be done. Full clause up front, and apparently turned down a move to the prem previously.
Hopefully I am wrong (usually am according to the missus! ) but think there is a lot of mileage left in this one.
14.) 08 Aug 2024 12:43:58
I agree wyred…. a lot of talk, but we’ve heard it all before.
15.) 08 Aug 2024 21:50:36
How tall is Bajcetic now? Isn’t he growing half and inch a month?
Must be about 6’7” by now ?.
16.) 09 Aug 2024 08:06:43
Casey he's got the best aerial duels won of any midfielder over 71% he also won possession back in midfield areas more than any midfielder in Spain 235x since the start of 2022 season! And he's dribbled past less than rodri! No idea why he's underwhelming good lord!
12 Jul 2024 10:49:11
Just reading old posts and according to ed002 konate, van dijk, Gomez, van den berg, Allison, kelleher, tsimikas, are all considering leaving with mac possibly next season.
Question for ed002 and ed001 is there an issue within the club that's making so many players want to leave? Does the club have the money to replace so many regular first reamers?
{Ed002's Note - What I have said is that there is interest in those players. Only Sepp Van Den Berg has said he wants to leave.}
1.) 12 Jul 2024 12:14:37
We'll need to keep hold of Nat Phillips for sure then.
2.) 12 Jul 2024 16:24:24
Kelleher has more or less said he wants to leave too, but did so in a very respectful way.
3.) 12 Jul 2024 16:27:35
@Nevada. Do you really believe everything you read?
4.) 12 Jul 2024 19:07:48
Less and less by the day.
5.) 12 Jul 2024 19:34:07
Not only believe it, make it up in the first place.
6.) 12 Jul 2024 15:17:50
Ed out of curiosity what would you do with our current CB situation?
{Ed002's Note - Replace Matip with SVDB and add Pacho to replace Konate, give VvD a two year extension.}
7.) 12 Jul 2024 21:56:33
Great question, succinct answer, thanks SR and Ed, good stuff!
8.) 13 Jul 2024 00:47:07
Thanks for the answer Ed. Would your starting cb partnership be virgil and quansah going into this season? Personally I think quansah has to start after his breakthrough last season.
{Ed002's Note - I think so.}
9.) 13 Jul 2024 01:35:35
Is there interest in Konate Ed002?
{Ed002's Note - Nothing serious.”
10.) 13 Jul 2024 07:11:40
Spot on Ed02.
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17 Apr 2025 12:59:03
It's pretty funny how Hughes has been public enemy number 1 all season and now suddenly everyone can't praise him enough.
Also Julian ward is technical director and deals with contract renewals.
Hughes deals with incoming and outgoing transfers.
1.) 17 Apr 2025 13:37:45
If he played any part in those deals, then he deserves some credit. But like you said, it's Ward's responsibility, why isn't he getting credit?
If Hughes steps up this summer, then he absolutely deserves all the praise - no question about it. Personally, I don’t think he’s the right man for the job, and nothing so far has convinced me otherwise. But I genuinely hope I’m proven wrong.
We’ll know a lot more by the end of the summer, how things shape up, what direction we're heading in, and whether he’s really up to it.
2.) 17 Apr 2025 13:52:27
Slot thanked everyone for the contracts except Ward.
Crazy that the Head Coach doesn’t even know the chain of command.
3.) 17 Apr 2025 14:36:04
Just wondering out of interest then Salah, if Hughes isn’t the right man for the job as you suggest then who is? Answers on a postcard please.
4.) 17 Apr 2025 15:01:23
No clue who is right for the job, Jaydee but luckily I’m not the one getting paid to know, am I? Just calling it how I see it. Maybe Hughes turns out to be a genius, but right now there's nothing to back that up.
But since you’re asking - what exactly has he done so far that’s convinced you he’s the answer?
5.) 17 Apr 2025 15:19:37
He's getting the praise from everyone because everyone was slating him for the contracts the past few months. We as fans have no idea who or what is in charge of the contracts so we criticise and praise the wrong person.
6.) 17 Apr 2025 15:25:18
The Liverpool account seem to believe Wards job is
Ward will be “overseeing player development across FSG’s football operations, ” which will eventually include a second club once the right target has been found and acquired.
The former sporting director’s responsibilities also include “oversight of Liverpool’s academy, FSG’s loan department, group wide elite player development strategies and the establishment of FSG’s new football innovation department. ”.
7.) 17 Apr 2025 15:29:24
Just like a lot of other stuff on this page posters don’t mind jumping on the bus even if they have no clue what said person is meant to be doing. Shocker.
8.) 17 Apr 2025 15:37:59
I’d prefer an old school manager to a coach and dof.
9.) 17 Apr 2025 16:51:47
It would seem that Ward has no dealing with contract renewals, so if it is Hughes he deserves the credit. Also, for the umpteenth time, Hughes played a part in the appointment of Slot. That be the case, he deserves praise. I reserve judgement on him till the end of the summer, regards to transfers. Those slating him have gone quiet. I'm sure there'll be someone else coming along for them to have a pop at. Come September it may be me, but till then.
10.) 17 Apr 2025 18:24:55
I really wish we all didn’t know the names of the people who ran the club “behind the scenes”!
As a kid, all I knew was the squad, the manager, the assistant and maybe the owner…. life was so much easier!
It seems that today, we all need someone to blame or point a finger at. It’s not just staff members we look to blame, my 10 year old knows most referees names as soon as they come on the tv and I doubt he is on his own with that.
11.) 17 Apr 2025 18:48:12
Hughes will be judged fully at the end of next season. So far, he is opening myind that he may in fact know what he is doing. I am going to reserve my judgement for a later date. I truly hope he makes it fully to my good books and I don't need to round up the garden tool boys. You know who you are.
12.) 17 Apr 2025 18:59:06
Two things can be right at the same time, people can praise him for his work on getting the two boys to sign new contracts but people can also be annoyed at the poor transfer windows we had in the summer and January this year.
13.) 17 Apr 2025 21:06:18
Hughes gets slaughtered about contracts for a year. Two contracts signed and hughes doesn't look after contracts, Ward does. couldn't make it up??.
14.) 17 Apr 2025 21:38:39
He has done absolutely nothing only waste money on a couple of signings we didn't need. Wouldn't have anything to do with virg and Mo signing new contracts. And anyway they already wanted to stay at the club. So far Hughes has robbed a living at liverpool.
15.) 18 Apr 2025 00:11:02
Nobody has any idea what Hughes’s job actually is or what remit he’s been given. This thread just proves that!
So how anyone can say he’s not the right man for the job and has been robbing a living when they have no idea what he’s being asked to do is beyond me.
As long as the team are winning I couldn’t give a toss and if Hughes is to blame for us being 13pts clear with 6 games to go then I can live with that.
16.) 18 Apr 2025 00:43:24
Deliberating who did this and that and who deserves which praise is like judging wine tasting contest without tasting the wine.
17.) 18 Apr 2025 01:11:07
If Hughes wrongly got all the criticism it’s only fair he wrongly gets the praise haha.
18.) 18 Apr 2025 03:26:07
Davey, I have the tool at the ready mate!
19.) 18 Apr 2025 07:07:37
Make sure you don't grab the wrong tool, Salah ;)
20.) 18 Apr 2025 07:59:10
Hughes hasn’t filled me or most fans with confidence and seems way out of his depth. Perception doesn’t necessarily mean reality of course.
13 Apr 2025 18:59:45
I think people are just jittery. Second was worse than the first but we have played far worse than that and at the end of the day points are what matter and we took them.
We are a team which everyone expected to drop off massively after klopp leaving. A team which spent the least in the league in the summer and winter. A team with constant noise about three key players leaving. A team which has also had its share of injuries with Alli, Trent, gomez, ibou, gakpo, Jota and spending periods out.
And we are winning the league, probably with a points total that would win 90% of all previous leagues.
Don't panic so much. League is won enjoy it and see what happens in summer.
1.) 13 Apr 2025 21:07:26
I just wish we’d cut out the suicidal defending. That would be nice.
2.) 14 Apr 2025 01:52:32
I’d take a dodgy 3 points at this point in the season rather than playing in the most exciting game in the last decade and losing 5-4 with the winner in the 98th minute.
11 Apr 2025 11:37:39
Wonder how people feel about the rumour that vvd and Salah contract demands were to have new four year contracts?
Assuming it's true (which it very well may not be) would you still want to re sign them if it was four years or leave for free?
1.) 11 Apr 2025 11:54:50
Pay is the key question.
4 years on same terms? No.
4 years with more variable and less fixed pay (appearances, goals, clean sheets etc)? Possibly.
2.) 11 Apr 2025 11:56:47
Tbh, I couldn't care less that they wanted 4 year deals. The reality now, at least, is that Salah was offered a two year deal and he accepted. And seemingly, Van Dijk was offered the same and he is now agreeable to it too.
3.) 11 Apr 2025 12:02:44
If they asked for 4 years (which I doubt to be honest) then the club would have said no way, and I'd have been comfortable with that. We obviously want to do the whole "one year contracts for players over a certain age" thing, but in this instance, 2 years is perfect for both of them.
4.) 11 Apr 2025 12:45:12
4 years on current pay may have been ok?
5.) 11 Apr 2025 12:51:54
2 years with 2 years extension seems fair.
6.) 11 Apr 2025 14:58:56
Personally I don't understand why the club wouldn't want a longer contract. The worry now is that they will leave for free in 2 years time now and we'll go through this all over again. A four year contract would give us more time to sell to Saudi for a fee in two years' time.
7.) 11 Apr 2025 15:11:17
We should be negotiating the extensions now because we don't want them leaving for free in two years time ?. P.
8.) 11 Apr 2025 15:57:04
No way the club agrees 4 year deals at their individual ages, IMO. We all saw what happened when Hendo and Fabinho got 4 year deals and their legs fell of after year 1. had the Saudis not come to our rescue and took them off our hands, not sure the Szobo's, Grav's or Macca's even sign here.
The club did great here and so did Salah and VVD in coming together to make a deal cos both parties wanted a deal to be done. Up Da Pool!
9.) 11 Apr 2025 19:57:35
If I was their agent that’s what I’d ask for too.
That’s just business.
I would not have agreed to a 4 year deal, I would think twice about a 3 year deal.
2 years feels right for the club, think we got a bit lucky with Salah.
10.) 12 Apr 2025 06:13:05
4yrs is too long for players of their age, and represents too much of a risk. The club would’ve been right not to accept such terms. The issue is how long and how close to their contract expiration date this has run - it is not the way to deal with contracts, the club needs to do better.
07 Apr 2025 15:46:38
I'm curious, this is a question for the people who have animosity towards Trent for leaving (though anyone can chime in if they want)
In the evening Virgil and mo also leave will you have the same animosity for them as well?
Spanish media today is reporting VVD has rejected a second contract offer.
1.) 07 Apr 2025 16:05:23
Didn't he say last night after the game that progress has been made in contract talks?
2.) 07 Apr 2025 16:07:44
And I think the frustration with Trent, a Liverpool fan from birth, a 'normal lad whose dreams have come true' is that he has always referred to himself as being one of us, and talked about how much it means for him to play here rather than a bayern Munich or a Barcelona or whatever. Also the fact that he is easily a 100 mill plus player, and we will be getting nothing for him. I don't hold anything against him myself and will always be a fan of the player, but I understand why others would be irate.
3.) 07 Apr 2025 16:44:47
"Easily a 100 mill plus player. " Sorry but for a player to be worth a certain amount, a club has to be willing to pay that amount. I don't see a club in Europe paying past 60 million tops. When you're paying that much for a full-back, you want them to be able to defend consistently.
4.) 07 Apr 2025 17:23:36
VVD and Salah have said planet of times they went to stay. That’s the difference.
{Ed025's Note - it will all come down to money OK..
5.) 07 Apr 2025 17:28:01
Nevada, difference is Trent is a Scouser n is a lot younger than the other 2 players . If Trent wanted to leave with his head high . he should have signed a short term deal so we get a transfer fee. not a lot to ask for really, considering we made n turned him into a professional footballer n a multi millionaire, but ppl. say he gave us 20 years imo we gave him his best 20years ever.
{Ed025's Note - but instead of Liverpool getting the money Trent can get it as a signing on fee Strom...what would you do mate?..
6.) 07 Apr 2025 17:34:23
Babbity Rabbity who says he is going as a defender. Of course TAA is a £100m player in today's prices.
7.) 07 Apr 2025 17:41:52
I don’t have animosity for any of them or for those running the club.
Movement is normal in football, the industry depends on it. You don’t get many players who stay at one club.
If all 3 go on free transfers, good luck to them. They’ve never made false promises, they’ve every right to leave and as multiple champions they’ll all get heroes welcomes from me whenever they return to Anfield.
8.) 07 Apr 2025 17:54:53
I’d be gutted if he goes, even with his dodgy defending at times, he is still a player you would love in your team for his attacking abilities. The money doesn’t bother me or the loyalty shout we don’t know what’s gone on behind the scenes. If the club have strung him along he is within his rights to say see ya later. We’d all love to be able to tell our bosses fu And have another job lined up with bigger money and greater chance of success. The only way it leaves a bitter taste is if he has told the club he will sign but pulls out last min.
9.) 07 Apr 2025 18:39:51
We must be the first team to lose as many as 8 players after winning the league. lol usually players stick around with a winning team. John Henry must be having his heart in his mouth looking at that rebuild.
10.) 07 Apr 2025 21:04:21
ED25 . If i was Trent i wouldn't have led everyone on a merry dance while running his contract down. If I was Liverpool I'd have sold the minute they knew he wouldn't sign a contract. both are guilty of not being honest . no one wants to lose face by the looks of it . what would you do Ed25.
{Ed025's Note - as i have said before Strom anyone with less than 2 years on their contract would be given the opportunity to sign a new deal or be put on the transfer list mate, its just not fair that these players and their agents can run down their contracts and leave for nothing, but to be fair this is on the club not the player, to let possibly £300M worth of talent leave and not get a penny is criminal mate..
11.) 07 Apr 2025 21:42:53
We won’t ‘lose’ 8 players.
12.) 07 Apr 2025 23:02:57
TAA can't be sold against his wishes either. He can refuse to move and sign a contract with another club.
Even with two years left, he could just wait for Madrid and Madrid wait for him.
It happened with Mbappe and it's how things are now.
13.) 08 Apr 2025 00:00:53
Like I’ve said I was told he was learning Spanish in autumn 2023.
14.) 08 Apr 2025 00:46:04
ED25.100 % agree on both points. we've got players coming to 2 years left ie Konate. hope our board see sense this time round.
{Ed025's Note - yeah Strom they need to get their act together mate..
15.) 08 Apr 2025 11:56:54
I don't particularly care about the situation, but I was reading the other day, Trent was very vocal a few years ago in criticising 'money clubs' and said he'd rather win trophies with LFC all day long than at a club that buys success, or words to those affect.
I think people are just a little annoyed about how he has gone about it and acted. However, we have no idea about the inner workings and what the club have/ haven't said, so it is kind of irrelevant.
26 Mar 2025 00:38:26
After looking at data I've actually come round for ed001 feelings on kerkez. I don't think he is good enough.
For context Trent has made the 7th most tackles of any defender in prem league this year. Kerkez isn't even top 20. So if worrying about trents dodgy defending is something you do regularly you're going to have the same worry about kerkez.
Robinson is a better bet. Good going forward and T5 in all defensive metrics as well.
1.) 26 Mar 2025 01:57:21
The way Bournemouth play kerkez is usually up field in transition and huijsen and zarbanyi have to cover their own half for the bombing fullbacks, no? Kind of klopp-like. That's my impression anyway
Robinson is rather older and doesn't seem to have as high a ceiling as kerkez. Though to be honest I don't want either, hato would be much preferred.
2.) 26 Mar 2025 03:24:58
what stats you looking at Nevada?
did a quick look and can see Kerkez has higher % aerial and ground duels won (per Squawka) . Kerkez has won over half his ground duels (58%) and Trent less than half (48%)
Whilst Trent has about 1 more tackle per 90, Kerkez tackle completion % is much higher (58% vs 46%)
3.) 26 Mar 2025 05:33:51
I can't believe Trent and Kerkez are been compared ?.
4.) 26 Mar 2025 05:41:00
Everytime iv seen him he struggles to cross a ball.
5.) 26 Mar 2025 06:30:25
Didn’t you also state pre season that Raphina had no end product at Barcelona and their fans wanted him out?
6.) 26 Mar 2025 08:43:09
TBF raphinha was struggling before flick came in, jk23, and Barcelona fans did want him out, folks on here didn't want him either and said they'd rather have doak. Now the football meta is saying he's the second coming and better than Salah, he's had some kind of turnaround.
7.) 26 Mar 2025 08:54:33
Kerkez cross completion % is 0.37% less than Trent.
8.) 26 Mar 2025 09:05:24
Patrik there seems to be lots of posters who talk on behalf of other fans these days mate.
Are we talking majority or minority of Barcelona fans as i can imagine there's a few worldwide.
9.) 26 Mar 2025 09:34:12
He was available for transfer or swap jk, which says it all really, ed002 said he was available for exchange or transfer during the summer window when addressing how Barcelona would manage to get transfers over the line with no money.
10.) 26 Mar 2025 10:05:25
RE faith: literally tackles won. Trent has made the 7th most tackles in the premier league of any defender. It's on the premier leagues official stats page.
Full backs rarely win aerial duels anyway that's more of a CB thing.
11.) 26 Mar 2025 10:54:59
It’d depend what you value more then ye? Only works out to an extra tackle per game and at a much lower success rate.
And regards aerial duels, I totally get it but can we not pretend like Trent (and other fullbacks) don’t get slated when they don’t win a jump ball at the far post!
12.) 26 Mar 2025 10:59:56
"The way Bournemouth play Kerkez is usually up field in transition."
@PB, this is the exact same way Fulham use Robinson which makes him look like he is a very good LB whereas when it is time to actually defend 1 v 1, the guy is poor. Keep me well away of such LB's.
19 Apr 2025 01:34:26
I can't see why klopp would be interested, he moved away from management because he was finding it hard to deal with the constant ups and downs and wanted something less mental.
I also don't think the group of players currently at Madrid would respond to klopp tactics or methods. Luis Enrique plays a similar high octane pressing game and mbappe wouldn't do it there, can't see why he'd do it at madrid.
From what I know, which isn't much people inside Madrid aren't convinced they can persuade klopp either they're just testing options now they've soured a bit on xabi.
16 Apr 2025 20:42:09
@Gaga it was actually baresi who said it but for some reason everyone always misattributed it to Paolo.
Fitting either way since maldini also tried to avoid diving in. Personally I'd love to sign huijsen he'd be worth every penny and would totally erase any worries when van dijk retires.
16 Apr 2025 20:39:03
Works hard and is very quick but not clinical finisher at all.
14 Apr 2025 23:59:58
Pretty much always plays well for Uruguay though. His coaches in Portugal said that his issue is mental rather than physical and it's too easy to shake his mental fortitude. They actually took his social media off him because of it.
14 Apr 2025 23:57:27
The more times you get the same muscles injury the greater the chance of it happening again. Unlike bones muscle tears don't heal back stronger the vast majority of the time.
19 Apr 2025 01:40:58
I think Pearce has been misquoted - Edwards is overseeing the multi club model. Wars is the technical director, whose job is to plan out player pathways, deal with contract renewals and some input into scouting networks.
19 Apr 2025 01:39:03
It's rare owners get involved in any transfers, a good owner knows it's better to hand that to someone who's experienced in it. Mang of them just show up for the photo op with the new signing.
16 Apr 2025 21:06:30
I watch a lot of Italian football and I think people would be disappointed with signing bastoni. He's great in Italy but I don't think he could hack it in the premier league, he has trouble if you move the ball quick enough and he tends to fade after 60 minutes or so.
To be honest there's not many Italian defenders I'd take to premier league. Spain and Portugal are better places to recruit defenders if you ask me.
16 Apr 2025 21:02:44
I have a similar experience. Back in the 90s one of my friends was a caretaker at melwood and asked if I wanted to go. I said yes of course.
While checking the place out we took a ball onto the pitch just to mess around since nobody was there. From behind me I heard a very familiar Scouse voice shout "over ere lad" I turned around and there's Robbie Fowler and Jamie redknapp strolling towards me. So I launched a pretty high and awkward pass over to him which her perfectly and easily controlled with his shoulder. As it bounced off his shoulder he used the back of his head to pass it to Jamie behind him who volleyed it back to me.
It sounds like nothing really but it was absolutely effortless for them.
They asked what I was doing here and I explained. They said they'd just finished doing some rehab (both were injured at the time) Robbie then asked if I wanted to play a bit.
So we played 1 on 1 with Jamie in goal and Robbie had no mercy. Just bullied me senseless and literally fired every shot into the corners which no keeper would have saved.
Then robbie went in the net for a game of pens with me against Jamie and robbie saved every penalty!
Super sound guys and has been a treasured memory ever since. I often wonder if either of them ever remember it.
16 Apr 2025 20:51:30
@Kew7 it's a gambling investigation. It won't be a lifetime ban but if found guilty it will probably be min of 8 months.