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04 Sep 2019 00:48:48
I believe that we are close to signing a Bobby Duncan replacement for the u23s from Wigan, a guy called Joe Gelhardt, apparently he's a Liverpool fan and is very highly rated and wanted by numerous clubs in England and Europe.

Kieran

1.) 04 Sep 2019 08:18:50
Is he also Jamie Carragher's cousin?


2.) 04 Sep 2019 08:30:26
No he is markovic's cousin. And his 4th cousins to aqualani.


3.) 04 Sep 2019 11:30:26
yes, its really important we replace players that don't make the first team squad.


4.) 04 Sep 2019 14:29:37
Mates with that robby buncan?


5.) 04 Sep 2019 18:48:54
Is he bi-polar?


6.) 05 Sep 2019 12:14:12
Joe G's an outstanding player. I'd be genuinely delighted if we signed him.


 

 

02 Sep 2019 08:38:04
Bobby Duncan off to Fiorentina for £2m. Looks like his agent has had his way. I want to wish Duncan some luck but his and his agents behaviour is totally unacceptable. can't help but feel Bobby Duncan is going to regret his decisions if and when he looks back at his career.
Maybe he and his agent are in the running for the gilfnard of the year award haha.

Kieran

1.) 02 Sep 2019 18:28:56
He’ll be playing league two football if he’s lucky in a couple of years time, the new Ryan Gauld.


 

 

06 Aug 2019 00:45:05
Hey all just a few rumours I've heard in the last couple of hours.
Bournemouth set to sign Wilson on loan for the season.
Liverpool expected to sign in cover for Mané possibly François Kamano from Bordeaux for £15-£20million.
Kent off to Leeds for £9million.
Herbie Kane is going to Hull City on loan.
Monaco and Roma reportedly interested in signing Lovren, Boubacar Kamara from Marseille is apparently of interest should Lovren leave.
Should be an exciting couple of days folks.

Kieran

1.) 06 Aug 2019 06:04:15
Thanks for sharing Kieran.

I personally want to keep Wilson. I think it is crunch time for him and his career and I do think that he has shown enough in pre season and for Derby last season that he can have an impact off the bench for us.

I am sure Kamano could be an excellent signing - or he could be a flop. my point is why don't we place our bets on young wilson instead?

Red Sandman.


2.) 06 Aug 2019 08:03:49
I just don’t think wilson is good enough. He wasn’t even the best player at derby last year mason mount was far better . Yes he can hit a ball and scores some belters but his all round game looks laboured . Slow in thought and seems to slow play down . I wish the lad all the best but I think his future is away from Liverpool .


3.) 06 Aug 2019 09:06:40
Wilson won’t get in Bournemouth’s side imo.


4.) 06 Aug 2019 10:10:21
If the Wilson to Bournemouth loan proceeds then he WILL play as the deal contains key reassurances and penalty payments if he fails to feature in a certain number of games. I personally think this is a clever move in the development of Harry Wilson as having him as a back-up in a squad where it is highly doubtful he'd get game time would stunt his continuing development.


5.) 06 Aug 2019 10:16:38
I also think that the Ryan Kent deal must include a buy-back clause. Yes, he's not really shown sufficient improvement to get into our first team but this does not equate with his development being over. and if Bielsa is anything to do with it then Kent will be substantially better within two years. Let's not make a similar mistake to the Suso one.


6.) 06 Aug 2019 10:20:06
Wilson should be keep or sell, no more loans.


7.) 06 Aug 2019 10:20:53
I'd like Cornet and Kamara. When Cornet actually started 3 games towards the end of the season he destroyed Marseille, Caen and Nimes as he previously had done City. Kamara would be a work in progress but good potential and can play LB also.


8.) 06 Aug 2019 10:34:15
Seems like your spot on with Wilson there mate unlike billy bluffer here 🙂.


9.) 06 Aug 2019 11:20:36
I would keep Lovren - we know his faults but we know his strengths - quality player for the squad and Salah is his bestie.


10.) 06 Aug 2019 11:22:24
you can't just put buy back clauses in for the sake of it. you'll get less money upfront and less interest in people buying them. let players move on for good.


11.) 06 Aug 2019 11:40:07
Would be very happy if all this were true except perhaps Lovren, I can understand him leaving as effectively 4th choice now but don’t know anything about Kamara. I’d rather we kept Lovren who I feel could still be important.


12.) 06 Aug 2019 13:51:54
Personally if I was conducting the Kent transfer I wouldn't bother with a buy-back clause. I think Liverpool should just take a deal close to the valuation of the player and insert a sell-on fee if possible, try not to cause any serious fuss over the deal and get it done.

The potential deal for Boubacar Kamara is interesting because of two things;
1)The current financial situation at Marseille means they have to sell in order to balance the FFP books.

2)The player only has a year remaining on his current contract.
Waiting this long into the window, and with european windows shutting at different times of the month, may work for Liverpool in making a cheap (ish) take it or leave it kind of deal, Marseille could fear on not making as much from him or may even lose him for £250,000 (compensation fee) next summer on a free transfer.
The Harry Wilson deal is a good one for Wilson and for Liverpool as he is almost certain to start immediately at Bournemouth considering the injuries they have to both Brooks and Ibe. He'll get some good minutes in the Premier League and that will prove whether he is good enough or not. I don't think there is an option to buy at the end of the loan.

Francois Kamano is an interesting potential signing because he can cover anywhere across the front three and he is almost as fast as Mané, giving us pace on the bench that we did not have before. Bordeaux selling Kamano to Liverpool will help them sign Cristian Pavón from under the noses of LA Galaxy (Cue transfer domino effect)
I think it's wonderful that we are signing players and we only get a slight hint of an incoming transfer when the deal is about to be signed, like Dorukhan Tokoz, that's doing business the right way in my opinion.


13.) 06 Aug 2019 14:43:14
It makes total sense to loan him. but finally to a PL team that plays good football. It will be a make or break season for him. Rips it up and we bring him back. does not work we sell.

Ppl who write these younger players off, because they are loaned to other clubs only have to look at harry kane for how useful they are. Also what level of club was mane at, at 22. Or VVD. or robbo. or Milner. on kieta. and on and on It seems you are only good or can only develop if you cost 60m.


 

 

04 Aug 2019 21:46:52
Mignolet is off to Genk for £7million, new backup keeper incoming.

Kieran

1.) 04 Aug 2019 22:01:36
Thought it was Club Brugge?


2.) 04 Aug 2019 22:19:33
If it's true you'd imagine they've someone lined up to replace him. Or was Lonegan the replacement? Either way all the best to Simon.


3.) 04 Aug 2019 22:36:08
My bad 6times it is indeed Club Brugge he's joining. I reckon we will go after the Trabzonspor keeper Çakir as a replacement, we were scouting him last season apparently.


4.) 04 Aug 2019 22:50:19
No way is it just Lonegan, you need three first team goalkeepers and considering the youth ones didn’t play much in pre season it won’t be them.


 

 

01 Aug 2019 16:13:49
Seen some reports today saying we cold let Harry Wilson leave, with clubs like Bournemouth, Newcastle and Villa all interested. Personally I can't see Liverpool just letting him go especially if we aren't signing anybody else in to replace him this window.

Kieran

1.) 01 Aug 2019 16:29:41
Replace him? Feeling you are just lookin someone to say this but. Why would we need to replace someone who hasn't doesn't and probably won't ever play 1st team football for us.

He's good but it would likely be best for his development to move somewhere he will get playing.
Would love to see young lads get lots of time here but also if Salah or Mane are sat on the bench in any game when fully fit I'll be as annoyed and puzzled as every other fan.


2.) 01 Aug 2019 16:33:23
Eds respons by default "Why would we buy someone to replace a player, that would not play anyway.


3.) 01 Aug 2019 16:40:22
Why would we need to replace someone who was out on loan last season?


4.) 01 Aug 2019 16:43:33
How do you replace a player that isn't playing?


5.) 01 Aug 2019 16:45:03
For that price, it would be foolish not to sell now. Clearly the player is going to be a bit part player next season and if he is sold at the end of next season, LFC won’t be Ven make half of that reported now.


6.) 01 Aug 2019 16:50:06
AG you do realise that we have a very long season ahead and Manè and Salah both have not long come back from the Cup of nations, having Wilson gives us a winger who can allow us to rest them and allow them some recovery time. As it is, Manè won’t be ready for a few weeks.


7.) 01 Aug 2019 16:55:02
With the volume of games this season he would be a player worthy or a club world cup a d 2 league cup runs for me for a season.


8.) 01 Aug 2019 17:17:10
Although he didn't play any games last season he is still a player that can play left or right wing in the absence of Mane or Salah.
I'd be a lot happier if he was replaced if he was sold.


9.) 01 Aug 2019 17:24:07
Relax guys Cornett is coming.


10.) 01 Aug 2019 18:07:15
I really miss the "thumbs down" button for some of these responses, LOL.


11.) 01 Aug 2019 18:12:18
Selling Wilson and bringing in Cornet would have to rank as one of the dumbest moves of the transfer window. Aulas has been waiting for some mug punter to come by and waste a massive transfer fee on him, and who better than a desperate club at the tail end of the transfer window? And if it’s us, then we’re getting properly rinsed, as the player has delusions of mediocrity.


12.) 01 Aug 2019 18:50:22
Ha, mention Cornet once and here comes 6Times to tell us all why he's no good.


13.) 01 Aug 2019 19:05:19
6 and Harry, sitting in a tree.

Klopp wants to sell Wilson
Klopp likes Cornet
Klopp has said that we need to sell before buying

Can you explain what makes you believe that you are more knowledgable than the manager and why we should trust your judgement over his?


14.) 01 Aug 2019 19:13:02
BeckersGloves can you tell me why do you think that

Klopp wants to sell Wilson
Klopp likes Cornet
Klopp has said that we need to sell before buying

Because none of it is true . so if you are accusing people with anything make sure you have facts and not an opinions that's its not even your own .


15.) 01 Aug 2019 19:32:21
Someone to play on the wings? if Salah or mane aren't about. Shaqiri and Origi will just like last season, then we've Ox, Brewster surely will be used in a few positions too. and if we have some mad injury crisis there's Gini, milner, lallana.


16.) 01 Aug 2019 19:33:04
Unlike you BeckersGloves, I’m prepared to support and give an opportunity to one of our own over some bang average no mark that wouldn’t make Everton’s bench, but then some of us are loyal supporters of our players and others are people like you who just want a signing for signings sake regardless of the fact they’re not tangibly better than the player making way for them, go back to football manager/ FIFA or whatever it is you do. Clearly if you’d ever watched Corner you’d know he was a fairly limited footballer who only has pace. His first touch would make Peter Sutcliffe wince.

{Ed025's Note - dont confuse loyalty with blind faith mate...tip of the day..


17.) 01 Aug 2019 20:16:00
It’s quite difficult to explain facts to somebody (and possibly their other account) when they don’t want to bother reading and listening for themselves. Try following the Ed’s on here and also listening to Klopp press conferences.

Wilson is currently for sale, we are listening to offers and a further loan has been ruled out. I’m going to take from this that Klopp doesn’t want him.

Cornet has been watched and the feedback is that Klopp likes the player. He made another glowing comment on the kid during the African Nations.

Klopp has said at least 3 times in the last month that we don’t have the money to spend this window. The fact that Wilson AND Kent with any decent cover for Left and Right makes it very clear that he is looking at an option for cover as he wouldn’t leave us without it.

Wilson isn’t a good fit for Klopps tactics. He is a lazy player who goes missing in games but scores a nice banger. Maybe if this was American Football and we needed Special Team players then I’m all for it.

I’m confident that my facts trump yours but ignore them if you want, the Welsh mafia must be hating their life atm with Bale being made to look stupid in Spain and the next big hope slipping down the league before he’s even got started.

Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m NOT Klopp.


18.) 01 Aug 2019 20:33:45
Oh and one more thing, Roger Whittmann. I know who I prefer to believe over admirable but misguided devotion to a player who just isn’t good enough for even the bench.


19.) 01 Aug 2019 20:46:19
See. When people say when they’re stating facts, you almost always know you can shoot them down. You mention that “. he made another glowing comment on the kid at the African cup of nations. ”, now this isn’t true. As Klopp hasn’t made public comment on him. And if Klopp had watched the AFCON hoping to watch Cornet he’d have been bitterly disappointed as he only played once as a sub in a dead rubber against Namibia. I’ve seen plenty of Cornet over the last few years in Ligue 1. He’s certainly not the type to go chasing back at all and if you think Wilson is lazy then I really don’t know what that makes Cornet as he rarely chases back or makes tackles, he lacks technique and literally all he has going for him is pace and physique and not much else, Tony Pullis would love him. Hopefully your man love for Cornet will be unrequited and he stays in France. Or better still, you could go and support Lyon and then you’d see lots of him fluffing shots and generally not looking like he knows what to do with the ball.


20.) 01 Aug 2019 21:03:06
6times, Cornet came on as a sub in every single game at the AFCON, normally around the 65 minute mark. You clearly don’t know what you are talking about, maybe you are thinking of a different player.


21.) 01 Aug 2019 21:08:12
I stand corrected that it was five sub appearances, but that’s five forgettable sub appearances barring a goal in the dead rubber against Namibia. Doesn’t change the fact that Klopp hasn’t commented on him, or the truth that he’s a very very mediocre footballer. None of this changes the reality that he’s not a player who would make a difference in tight matches when teams park the bus.


22.) 01 Aug 2019 21:14:40
How do you know they were forgettable appearances? You obviously weren’t watching the games as you didn’t even know he was on the pitch. Have you ever seen him play?


23.) 01 Aug 2019 21:46:59
I’ve seen him play in the french league on a number of occasions and he really doesn’t look up to much and from what I saw of the Ivory Coast in the AFCON, which I’ll admit wasn’t a great deal, I only noticed that he appeared in the Namibia game and scored, though the goal he scored against Namibia was a result of poor defending and keeping. Shows how memorable he was. I certainly noticed he was not deemed good enough to be a starter. Truth is, he’s a mediocre footballer and not worth wasting money on a he has nothing in his game that would have changes any of the matches we drew last year, given that he’s only useful against teams that play a higher line and is only effective running into space.


24.) 01 Aug 2019 21:47:47
Take it your not a fan of Cornett then 6times lol. We’ll loop is and I like what I’ve seen of him. If Klopp wants him then then that’s good enough for me.

{Ed0333's Note - yes but can he do it on a cold foggy night in Cassel?


25.) 01 Aug 2019 21:52:09
A word of advice 6Times (or Harry) .

When bragging about “shooting down facts”, try to at least use actual facts. You don’t like him and you want to give Wilson a chance. Totally fair position. Unfortunately, Wilson is for sale and Cornet is a player of interest as his replacement.

Klopp is keen on him, you’re not. Get over your vitriolic hatred for the kid, the search bar would have me wonder why you really don’t like certain players. It’s bang out of order how heavy you going for him, it really is as if you have an ulterior reason because the player you describe isn’t the player I’ve (and I guess the club scouts) have watched.

You throw your insults out but clearly know nothing about the situation. You are showing your troll credentials and I just hope that the real reason for hating on the player as hard as you so doesn’t come from a darker place.


26.) 01 Aug 2019 21:53:16
Listing off players who can play on the wing doesn't actually mean that they are any good playing on the wing.
Origi and Brewster are far better playing centrally. Shaqiri almost always played deeper last season and Ox is far more effective in midfield.
There is nothing wrong with wanting a specialist winger to back up our wingers.


27.) 01 Aug 2019 23:16:18
Shaqiri is and always has been a RW, Chamberlain has spent his entire career playing on the wings before coming to Liverpool, some of Origi' s best games for Liverpool has come from the LW.


28.) 01 Aug 2019 22:02:16
I hope he can ed0333 lol. Are you a fan of him mate?

{Ed0333's Note - Cornet? I’ve only seen him play against City he looked useful but then again so did Diouf before he signed for us mate. If it were me I’d go all out for Steven Berjiwin who I think is more than capable of deputising for messers Salah & Mane.


29.) 01 Aug 2019 23:49:37
Thunderbird, it's not just listing players that can play on the wing, we have 2 of the best wingers in the world! That is who is going to play on our wings. If for some reason they can't, origi has shown many times he is more than capable of filling in, as have several others, it's not like we play with traditional wingers who, we play with 3 attacker. If someone is out klopp will tinker the team and system to use the players available to the best of their abilities.


30.) 02 Aug 2019 01:28:56
Specially for BeckersGloves . to begin apologies did n't realise you were in the middle of a lovers tiff with other posters . sorry I really have nothing to do with it . But I guess the lines " Try following the Ed’s on here and also listening to Klopp press conferences. " are in response to my suggestion to you about stating facts . unfortunately you done the same thing again and you fail to follow your own advice. and don't confuse the eds opinion as facts . Ed002 is the one with one with facts as we all know and never once he would say Klopp likes or hates or thinks etc . even when he is asked, he usual response "you need to ask Klopp".
On Harry Wilson . ed002 few days ago said something to the effect that no plan to send Wilson on loan again and the club plans have changed for him.
Klopp on Wilson just 2 days ago, when asked about the boy's future he said:"We are in constant conversations, that's clear. We have to do the right thing for us and for the boy. "He is obviously a really good player and I was really happy with him in the whole pre-season" "I am happy for him. He played not in his best position, he played left wing and did it really well, " Klopp added.
"We tried to set it up a little bit so it is more comfortable for him with positioning and stuff like that. When he scored the goal, it was just Harry. Brilliant. "
MY OPINION : really think if a club comes in with 18m+ for him, we'll sell with Klopp's blessing . as mentioned by few posters already there are at least 4 or 5 ahead of him in the first team.

Cornet ; I don't know and don't care if he is good or bad . but saying Klopp loves him and he is the one because we watched him, is ridiculous . Klopp says nice things about a lot of players and as you know "by following the Ed's" we have been monitoring quite few players . I mean blimey Klopp probably want to sleep with Fakir, he was after him for 2 years .

Then you stated this stupid fact: "Unfortunately, Wilson is for sale and Cornet is a player of interest as his replacement. " . I mean why would we replace a player that did n't play for us last year and was n't in the first team setup until just recently?

And finally, and this is really sore point because it effects the club : You said:
"Klopp has said at least 3 times in the last month that we don’t have the money to spend this window"
Can you give a snippet from somewhere that he said that . he will be in trouble with his bosses if he did . what he said and sorry can't find the actual quote but it was something to the effect, this window was never going to be like last summer, we are looking for opportunities that is good for us and we are working hard trying to do something .

{Ed0333's Note - please tell me when Klopp has said “we don’t have the money to spend this window”?


31.) 02 Aug 2019 03:41:08
Is 6Times Harry? I thought he switched teams to City?

{Ed0333's Note - Thanks for pointing that out mate. I hope it is Harry I’ve missed him. He makes me chuckle with his bunkum


32.) 02 Aug 2019 06:08:07
Kloppdog, given that Klopp himself has implied that he would like to sign a versatile forward, and given that all of our forwards are comfortable playing centrally we could probably conclude that the versatile forward would be one that prefers to play on the wings. So I am simply agreeing with Klopp that we need to sign another winger.


33.) 02 Aug 2019 10:32:17
Thunderbird, I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to have another winger. Just saying it is not something we majorly need. And Harry Wilson certainly doesn't need replacing.
If someone who fits the bill comes available all and good but if not We'll do just fine.
If it was something Klopp felt we badly needed we'd have signed someone by now.


34.) 02 Aug 2019 13:07:32
Klopp never said we didn't have money to spend. He said we couldn't afford to spend like City, Madrid, Barcelona and PSG year after year. I feel he wisely looked at the options available and realized the ones he wants are ridiculously expensive or not willing to move to be second fiddle to our front three. There's only a handful of players in world football who could improve upon that front three, so you either need to provide depth for them in the case that they get injured (which Origi has proven he can do and Brewster will get the opportunity) or supplement them by adding players in other positions. But OX is deemed ready to take the role back over, Keita was bought just last season for loads of money and Wijnaldum has been tried further forward in lineups when Milner/ Fabinho/ Henderson play. Add into that Lallana being moved deeper and the only role left to fill in the midfield is one that Harry Wilson could very easily fit into. The hindrance for Wilson is Shaqiri - he offers all of the things Wilson does already. Still, unless a big offer comes in, and that would be in the twenty million plus which only a few Prem clubs would be able to pay, why not keep the lad and give him a few chances? I've made my case for him several times in the last couple of days. Klopp, to me, seems like someone who will advise Wilson in a way that will best suit Wilson whether that is leaving or staying.


35.) 02 Aug 2019 14:22:24
{Ed0333's Note - please tell me when Klopp has said “we don’t have the money to spend this window”?
=====================================
Not sure if you asking me ed0333? that was my point I don't think Klopp said that; or even anything remotely close to these words . the other poster is confident as a matter of fact that Klopp said it 3 times . so I asked him to provide us with proof/ quotes to educate us.

{Ed0333's Note - sorry mate I misunderstood I thought it was you’re quotes. Thanks for clearing that up mate.


36.) 02 Aug 2019 17:38:52
Why would we need to replace Wilson, when he was not even a part of the first team last year. Wilson's workrate off the ball is just as bad as Coutinho. We defend as a unit and the team moves together to ensure we are able to defend. If anything we need to look at fullbacks. Wilson was so far down on the pecking order why would the club buy a player to replace him.


37.) 03 Aug 2019 08:08:34
Here is how I see it - we got mane, firmino, salah, origi, Brewster, shaq, Ox, kent and Wilson for 3 positions. We can lose 2 of those and still have 6 for 3 spots. . . So we can't or shouldn't just keep this many players for the cup games because we have too many ad it is.


38.) 03 Aug 2019 12:36:10
Commenting on Max Cornet is like a trigger for 6Times (Harry in disguise, IMO) . Anytime his name is mentioned on here, he just starts spouting abject fantasies and personal, ad hominem attacks against him like he stole his GF in another life/ parallel universe. Obsessed much Harry, I mean 6 Times.

As for replacing Wilson again, can those saying that answer me this: How do we replace a player who doesn't play or wouldn't have been playing regularly to begin with?


 

 

 

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25 Oct 2019 13:54:07
Gotta love some of the more delusional Liverpool fans I've come across on twitter. Sign a kit deal with Nike therefore we must be signing Havertz, Mbappé, Sancho, Werner and Fabian Ruiz in the next summer transfer window. Anyway the deal with Nike is positive in developing the brand and extending the fan base which is great for the commercial side of things. Let's just hope that we get unique kits and not the generic kits that other premier League teams could have a similar style to. In that regard I'd have to commend new balance as each kit they've given us has been unique building on both the history of the club and the city. Nike have big shoes to fill.

Kieran

1.) 25 Oct 2019 14:29:15
I'm fairly certain there just having a laugh.

{Ed002's Note - history tells us otherwise.}


2.) 25 Oct 2019 15:33:03
Alexdavies1993 there's some that think that the Nike deal means we are a dead cert to sign some of those players, there is some taking the piss in that bunch but the rest are properly delusional. #mbappé2020 is trending on twitter for that reason, personally I think it's hilarious.


3.) 25 Oct 2019 18:37:59
We're getting Mbappe. From my Sources, I can absolutely guarantee that next season Mbappe will be our back up striker incase Divok gets an injury.

{Ed025's Note - hmmmm..


4.) 25 Oct 2019 19:20:18
Yeah well he’s got to fight Brewster for a space in the squad. Good thing is though mbappe can still play under 23s if not selected.


5.) 25 Oct 2019 19:44:20
This season nike have designed some beautiful kits for their main clubs, the did a retro theme for each 3rd strip in the style of classic 90s design, with the nike logo, collar, and clubs iconic away colours producing some lovely kits for Barca, psg, inter, Roma, spurs, Chelsea for example. Check them out, the black and yellow inter Milan kit is one of the nicest I've seen in a long time.


6.) 26 Oct 2019 21:35:28
Not as nice as our 1st strip.


 

 

26 Aug 2019 21:21:29
What's the story with Bobby Duncan? Spent a year trying to sign him, helped him have an unbelievable season with the u18 and u23 teams, has trained with the first team and made appearance's for the first team during pre-season and now he's seemingly throwing it back in the clubs face (I heard he refused to play tonight against Southampton in an u23 game) to force a move abroad. Surely a loan would be better for him or have relationships broken down so badly the club want rid of him.

Kieran

{Ed002's Note - Maybe it is the same as many youngsters who are tired of players coming in and limiting their options. They want guarantees that most clubs won't give. This opens the door to a move to Germany whose clubs are constantly looking to young English players.}


1.) 26 Aug 2019 21:48:25
I'm supprised more young players aren't doing it, why play for the u23s if you can get top flight football at a young age in a league as good as the bundesliga.


2.) 26 Aug 2019 22:00:09
The germans are certainly cherry picking the young english talent, jordan Sancho is an insanely smart peice of business he is worth easily over 100 million after joining from city . I think there league is slightly weaker than ours an certain players seem too thrive .


3.) 26 Aug 2019 22:38:12
Maybe because I’m a bit old skool. I really don’t get the hype regarding brining younger players though

English Clubs have been buying success since the early 90’s, especially since the birth of the Premier League era.

And a certain club making massive strides after floating on the stock exchange in 1991.


4.) 26 Aug 2019 22:42:55
It's weaker than the prem but it's certainly far better than playing u23 football.


5.) 27 Aug 2019 04:42:25
How arrogant must you be to feel you deserve to play ahead of the current front 3 straight away age 18? Ridiculous.

{Ed0666's Note - I salute the guy he’s willing to leave his comfort blanket of family and friends at such a young age and wants to go and prove himself. I wish more of them did that. Besides we’ve poached many a player after unsettling them and maybe this is our Karma.


6.) 27 Aug 2019 07:11:15
I’d be disappointed if he goes because he’s apparently a talent. At the same time, he’s hardly been here for 5 minutes so is showing a severe lack of patience and fight to be honest. I’m confident if Klopp and co thought he was remotely close to being useful, he’d get an opportunity this year.


7.) 27 Aug 2019 08:51:03
If he wants to go to play quality first team football then good on him. From a practical viewpoint let’s either make it a loan or have a big sell on clause in case he turns in to another Sancho.


8.) 27 Aug 2019 09:19:51
good on him if he wants to play first team football and crucially, there is a club willing to sign him. I would hope that we are able to bring him back either end of a loan period or via buy-back. But whatever, if he wants to go there isn't really that much we can do. Be better to let him go and let him fill his boots elsewhere.


9.) 27 Aug 2019 22:46:59
I do agree completely that youngsters getting frustrated at being blocked of their opportunity by their clubs and it is certainly a common regular problem.

I do however don't see this being relatable to bobby Duncan, he was signed last year, was a big success for u23s and only 18 now, . In that time we've let solanke, ings and sturridge move on and we've not signed any additional players in Duncan's position. Brewster has shown that klopp will reward any kid who deserves it. We've done nothing to block or stifle Duncan's chance so I can't see him feeling he's been treated unfairly with blame to the club.

If he wants to move simply as he can't see an easy route to make a successful career at Liverpool that's more than fair and respect to the lad if he wants to play football but this example can't be one of a young player being wrongfully treated and prevented by the club's actions. Id hope he decides to stay and can get a loan if he wishes but with glatzel injured long term and Brewster yet to prove anything, it would be a shame to see Duncan move on permanently.


 

 

06 Jul 2019 12:21:18
Eds as we know Chelsea have a transfer ban for this and the next window, however, I was wondering what happens to players like Ake at Bournemouth who Chelsea have first refusal on if he is being sold. So say Liverpool wanted to sign Ake this summer, would Chelsea have to surrender their first refusal option or could they sign him in the same manner that we signed Naby Keita from Leipzig?

Kieran

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea would not do what Liverpool did with Keita as it adds to the cost too much, but in theory, if the player and his club agree, then they could do that with a number of players they have options on. Right now they have no plans to do anything like that and are busy taking stock and thinning out the ranks.}


1.) 06 Jul 2019 13:29:53
15 years of buying success, itll be interesting to see how Chelsea perform.


2.) 06 Jul 2019 13:40:42
You don't think Liverpool have tried to buy success Drogie?


3.) 06 Jul 2019 13:58:28
Drogie, every big club always tries to buy success. After all, how do you explain the 100's of millions of pounds and euros being spent by top clubs ever summer and/ or winter?


4.) 06 Jul 2019 14:30:47
I dont know what your point is lads? Chelsea hadnt won a league title for 50 years pre 2004. So my point is, Im intrigued to see how they get on with the transfer ban

Ive been following the Reds since the early 80s and have seen football change through the early 90 with the birth of the premier league so I know exactly what clubs have been spending

You think spending big to achieve success is recent thing? Think again.


5.) 06 Jul 2019 14:08:10
Dont read the papers, did they break the financial rules? (cant remember what its called) big news. that's a massive blow for them.

Grabbing for straws here. Could city be found guilty of the same thing?

Shame. Ake is woeful, would be great going up against chelsea with him in the back 3/ 4.

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with financial rules although Liverpool are one of the other English sides guilty of the same infraction. Manchester City's issue is very different.}


6.) 06 Jul 2019 14:43:21
Or you could translate that from media/ paper talk to football language

Every big club tries to improve their squad and add quality every summer/ winter so they can challenge for trophies.

Except spurs, who challenged for the Champions league without much spending. If you think your squad is good enough (or if you're building a new stadium) then that's cool. And i think our squad is good enough, won't be stressed at all if we don't sign anybody. If we do, then great. But were not weak in any area. The group seem to have a proper togerherness, the heart break of losing a champions league final, and then making another, against all odds, and winning it! Its been brilliant for us fans seeing the football our boys play, since klopp came in. But having not won anything since the league cup has always hung above us like a black cloud. Now that's gone, and they've won the big one. that's massive for us but more so for the players, its their proffesion. If we can beat Barcelona 4 0, we can beat anyone. And we had injuries to big players. Keita, Aoc, gomez.


7.) 06 Jul 2019 17:34:59
Brilliant post, Robbie. I mean, what a way to break your trophy dock as a club, some of the players who have won nothing prior to joining us (Bobbie for example) and of course, with Klopp mas manager, by not just winning trophy but winning the biggest trophy in club football.


8.) 06 Jul 2019 23:22:44
Every club try to buy success, it's how rich the club are who are branded " trying to buy success "


 

 

17 Jun 2019 14:40:55
Continuing my belief that we always sign some of our best players from recently relegated teams, who would you like to see sign as cover or as a starter from Huddersfield, Cardiff and Fulham?

For me personally i'd like to see Terence Kongolo sign from Huddersfield. A good quick cover option can also play at LB, especially important signing if Lovren leaves.
I also wouldn't mind Etheridge from Cardiff coming in as backup to Alisson.

Kieran

1.) 17 Jun 2019 14:48:23
The only one that has anywhere near enough quality from those 3 teams is Ryan Sessegnon, but unfortunately he looks Spurs bound.


2.) 17 Jun 2019 14:55:34
I would want NO player from any of those relegated teams, not even Sessegnon. Kongolo is ALL over the shop as a defender getting dragged out of position at will. even tho, he has good pace. Sessegnon needs more time to adapt to the PL tempo and we don't have time for any of that esp. if he thinks he can start ahead of Robbo which is a pipe dream at it stands. The teams that got relegated from the 17/ 18 season had some decently quality players in them like Shaq, jay Rodriguez etc. Not these lot. They are poor all over, IMO.


3.) 17 Jun 2019 15:03:31
I don't believe the hype around Sessegnon, he did very little to stand out in that admittedly haphazard Fulham side.


4.) 17 Jun 2019 15:11:07
ed001 what's your take on Sessegnon. I know he is only 19 but from what I see of him last season he looks very over hyped my be because he is English but when ever I see Fulham play last season I can't remember him doing anything that stood out at all. And for the money he would cost think we could do a lot better.

{Ed001's Note - a good young prospect who was not ready to step up.}


5.) 17 Jun 2019 15:12:51
RedWolf I reckon they'd perform better in a stable environment with the right coaching, just like Robbo. You can look at the stats, which Liverpool base their transfers off, and compare them to our current players, players we sign from relegated teams tend to be our highest performing players, because they've a point to prove, we should not be so quick to dismiss them.


6.) 17 Jun 2019 15:52:45
Etheridge as GK backup only if Mig leaves.

J Bryan or Marchand or christie as backup Defender.


7.) 17 Jun 2019 18:18:52
Kieran with all due respect, stats mean absolutely nothing to me. Never have and never will. Secondly, you use Robbo as an example of us signing a player from a relegated team BUT your argument lacks context.

Robbo was actually not that good at Hull and in fact, he was defensively a true liability and lacked any sort of end product in his crosses. There was a reason why many of us were underwhelmed when he arrived.

Robbo then came to us and had to graft for his spot with Moreno ahead of him. Robbo put his head down and worked his socks off, improved his game overall and went to the next level again this season. Your example is a misnomer and a false comparison, IMO.


8.) 17 Jun 2019 19:15:16
Stats might mean nothing to you Redwolf but that is completely irrelevant. If Liverpool staff use these stats then that is relevant.

You also used Robbo as an example of a player not very good at Hull but under the right guidance became a very good player at Liverpool. Surely then there could well be players from the relegated teams that might go the same way, such as Sessegnon or the skilful midfielder at Huddersfield? (His name escapes me) . You 2 posts are sort of contradicting themselves. Maybe none of these players from relegated teams may well not be good enough but after Robbo I certainly wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.


9.) 18 Jun 2019 01:40:59
Irish Rover has a point. More and more I am reading about this analytics department at Liverpool that seemingly is making some kind of impact. It could possibly explain some of how almost every LFC player has improved since joining. Emphasis being not on the simple statistics thrown out for public consumption but the cause and effect of players with and without the ball throughout a game. I'm no proponent of "moneyball" and do believe that the other areas (coaching, management, training and tactics) are probably more important. But let's not dismiss analytics in football simply because we don't understand it fully yet.


10.) 18 Jun 2019 20:07:10
ArAy1969, Kieran mentioned statistics, NOT analytics. Analytics are different and have been used in football for the past 25 years so I fully understand it and how it can work in football, thank you very much.

IR, my posts are not contradictory. Robbo had some good attributes obviously hence the reason he was signed. Of all the players in the relegated teams of this season, I do not find any play I feel can make that step up. Sessegnon did not make the step up and in fact, is not even a defender and as he was used as a winger and a support striker at times. Not sure he can make it at the level LFC play at right now, IMO. I just don't. You have a diff. opinion and that's okay.


 

 

20 Feb 2019 17:23:19
I know this is a bit of a hypothetical question, but the last 2 seasons Klopp has picked up a bargain from one relegated team, who does everyone think has the potential to play for us from the likes of Huddersfiel and two from Fulham, Newcastle, Cardiff, Southampton, Burnley, Brighton (I'd consider them to be in the dogfight considering their form) . A good, talented, cheap squad player to add depth to our squad.
Thoughts?

Kieran

1.) 20 Feb 2019 18:04:12
Danny ings?


2.) 20 Feb 2019 18:19:39
Anthony Knockaert.


3.) 20 Feb 2019 18:20:20
I was thinking the same last week- who would you go for from a relegated side?

Huddersfield- no idea
Fulham- Sessegnon
Cardiff - no idea
Southampton - Ward Prowse
Burnley - Heaton

Everton? .


4.) 20 Feb 2019 18:30:14
I’m pretty confident Heaton is united through and through, possibly Pope would be more keen on being backup? Other than that Sessegnon and Wan-Bissaka would be excellent.


5.) 20 Feb 2019 19:03:17
Crap, forgot Wan-Bissaka.


6.) 20 Feb 2019 19:53:58
Yeah Sessegnon and Wan-Bissaka is the only ones I'd pick personally.


7.) 20 Feb 2019 20:14:56
Aggerdo 😂😂.

{Ed025's Note - cheeky sod if you ask me..


8.) 20 Feb 2019 20:30:24
Crouch.


9.) 20 Feb 2019 20:39:46
Marcus Rashford hopefully.


10.) 20 Feb 2019 20:57:35
Ryan Babel 😎.


11.) 20 Feb 2019 22:48:15
Wan Bissaka.


12.) 20 Feb 2019 23:26:00
Longstaff seems to have started well in premier league life for Newcastle, presses well at least.


13.) 21 Feb 2019 01:08:25
Richarlison would be excellent!

{Ed001's Note - he is dreadful.}


14.) 21 Feb 2019 03:57:02
I think the domestic purchase for this summer will be a homegrown goalkeeper- any of Heaton or Pope who is available.

I don’t see anyone else coming in except maybe a backup full back, but can’t think of who the right guy is amongst the relegation favourites.


15.) 21 Feb 2019 06:46:04
Florian Lejeune for me. Would be a cheap 3rd or 4th choice CB. But I’m not sure Newcastle will be relegated to be honest.


16.) 21 Feb 2019 06:54:20
I think Ryan Fraser from Bournemouth is a very good player. i'd like him.
Fabian schar from newcastle as the backup CB. The tall dane from soto is also a good CB. Donot like either of Ben mee or Taraowski too much.
we need someone at LW and i agree with other that Sessegnon is the best option amont the relegation teams.


17.) 21 Feb 2019 08:09:09
Wan Bissaka, Sessegnon and maybe Billing from Huddersfield would be my choices.


18.) 21 Feb 2019 08:59:31
Lots of people saying Sessegnon. i know he’s still young but after such an impressive showing in the championship last year I was of the impression he hadn’t really cut it in the PL this season? Admittedly I haven’t seen a lot of Fulham recently though but I know he was in and out of the team at the start of the season. Anyone Ed or otherwise got a better update on his progress?

{Ed001's Note - he has done ok but the club splashed out in January, panic buys, rather than sticking with him.}


19.) 21 Feb 2019 11:02:19
I think in the right team he'd thrive, his time at Fulham is coming to an end, I see a big club snapping him up in the summer because he clearly has the quality and the potential to be even better, it'll be interesting to see where he ends up.


 

 

 

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06 Aug 2019 13:51:54
Personally if I was conducting the Kent transfer I wouldn't bother with a buy-back clause. I think Liverpool should just take a deal close to the valuation of the player and insert a sell-on fee if possible, try not to cause any serious fuss over the deal and get it done.

The potential deal for Boubacar Kamara is interesting because of two things;
1)The current financial situation at Marseille means they have to sell in order to balance the FFP books.

2)The player only has a year remaining on his current contract.
Waiting this long into the window, and with european windows shutting at different times of the month, may work for Liverpool in making a cheap (ish) take it or leave it kind of deal, Marseille could fear on not making as much from him or may even lose him for £250,000 (compensation fee) next summer on a free transfer.
The Harry Wilson deal is a good one for Wilson and for Liverpool as he is almost certain to start immediately at Bournemouth considering the injuries they have to both Brooks and Ibe. He'll get some good minutes in the Premier League and that will prove whether he is good enough or not. I don't think there is an option to buy at the end of the loan.

Francois Kamano is an interesting potential signing because he can cover anywhere across the front three and he is almost as fast as Mané, giving us pace on the bench that we did not have before. Bordeaux selling Kamano to Liverpool will help them sign Cristian Pavón from under the noses of LA Galaxy (Cue transfer domino effect)
I think it's wonderful that we are signing players and we only get a slight hint of an incoming transfer when the deal is about to be signed, like Dorukhan Tokoz, that's doing business the right way in my opinion.

Kieran

 

 

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04 Aug 2019 23:15:58
Signing in a keeper, my money is on Çakir from Trabzonspor, wouldn't mind having Pepe Reina back as an alternative. Kelleher will remain as 3rd choice.

Kieran

 

 

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04 Aug 2019 22:36:08
My bad 6times it is indeed Club Brugge he's joining. I reckon we will go after the Trabzonspor keeper Çakir as a replacement, we were scouting him last season apparently.

Kieran

 

 

 

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25 Oct 2019 15:33:03
Alexdavies1993 there's some that think that the Nike deal means we are a dead cert to sign some of those players, there is some taking the piss in that bunch but the rest are properly delusional. #mbappé2020 is trending on twitter for that reason, personally I think it's hilarious.

Kieran

 

 

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04 Sep 2019 00:43:51
Imagine Shearer and Batistuta up front for us during the late 90's early 00's with Fowler and Owen in as well. Scary to think of the amount of goals we'd have scored. Better file this one in the "if only" category.

Kieran

 

 

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02 Sep 2019 16:54:31
I'd rather it be the Havertz fund than the Mbappé fund tbqh. We'll need a Havertz type of player more than a Mbappé type of player in our squad next year.

Kieran

 

 

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28 Aug 2019 15:45:42
Johnnyr1970 terminating his contract would be what the agent wants. I'd be more than happy to let him sit on his contract, never play for the rest of it, then be released once it's finished and for him to blend into obscurity, nobody would sign a headache that hadn't kicked a ball in 2 years. That would be huge in destroying "player power". Duncan's career will be the only casualty, the club won't suffer.

Kieran

 

 

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28 Aug 2019 15:12:20
Having read that entire post, it seems clear to me that Bobby Duncan needs to sack his agent, the advice he's been apparently getting seems atrocious. The club have acted reasonably well in keeping this quiet until the agent came out with these ridiculous demands and expectations for a young player still learning and developing his game.
A loan seemed fair if he wanted to test himself and if he's unhappy the experience might have opened his eyes to the nitty gritty real world life of lower league football.
The other thing we must consider is the fact that he spent pre-season with the first team (I wonder if that was just a policy of appeasement to shut the agent up), you can be a world class player but if Klopp judges you to have a poor or toxic, Neymar-esque type of personality then you'll never get near the first team and rightfully so.
I'd be more than happy to see him get a better agent, get better advice, stay and work his way into consideration, otherwise I'd let him rot and waste away in the youth teams never kicking a ball for them or the first team.

Kieran