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25 Jun 2022 10:01:07
Ed002: Is there any truth in the Werner from chelsea Rumour?

I personally don't expect there to be anything in this, but any info you have would be appreciated.

Thanks for all you do across all the sites.


{Ed002's Note - Timo Werner (F/LW) Bayern Munich discussed the player with Chelsea and were open to a possible part exchange but Chelsea were not interested in the player offered. Borussia Dortmund were keen to add Werner and Chelsea are open to letting him go, but interest may be waning. Juventus has declared an interest during a recent meeting with Chelsea as they fear the loss of Dejan Kulusevski - and that discussion may well lead to a part exchange being proposed. Barcelona and Atletico have enquired after his availability. Will leave if the right offer arrives. I am not aware of any approach by Liverpool.

1.) 25 Jun 2022 12:24:44
Thank god Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp has his phone number of course.}

2.) 25 Jun 2022 12:25:21
To quote Dave Bassett, “He couldn’t hit a cow’s a#se with a banjo”.

3.) 25 Jun 2022 13:21:09
I actually think Werner would be some player under Klopp. I don't think for a second it'll happen but there is a reason he was interested all those moons back.

4.) 25 Jun 2022 15:51:57
Hope you’re not suggesting that all Klopp has to do is “Tap” in Werner’s number Ed002? ?.

5.) 25 Jun 2022 17:15:08
Agreed WYred he could be Torres in reverse, awful at chelsea yet good in a reds shirt.

I still remember how excited most of us were when we thought he was nailed on to join us.

If Klopp was to dial the number i don't think he would get reported for tapping up on this occasion!

{Ed0666's Note - I agree with you & WYRred the only difference between a heralded Werner and a ridiculed Werner is hitting the post a tonne of times, wretched luck and composure in front of goal which was largely due to the lack of confidence. There is a real player in there and like you guys said I think klopp could really harness and nurture that. For me Werner would have been a cheaper alternative to Nunez and maybe even a safer one. I’m ready for the abuse. ?

6.) 25 Jun 2022 17:35:28
I’m a Chelsea fan but I will absolutely concur with those who said that a lot of his failings are simply a matter of failings on the clubs side. He played acceptably under a terrible manager (Lampard) when he was signed. Then Tuchel came in and introduced a system that isn’t at all suited to his strengths. This and his poor luck shattered his confidence and the Lukaku signing was the nail in his coffin. I fully well expect him to go to another team and light it up just to make the imbeciles who slag him off look like the muppets that they are.

7.) 25 Jun 2022 17:37:05
Hopefully Nunez is better than Werner. Won't our next forward purchase be a replacement for Salah i. e. a scoring winger who can cut in and find the spaces Nunez leaves when he comes wide or into the #10 spot.

8.) 25 Jun 2022 17:18:35
Wasn't Werner swerved because he's not great in tight spaces/ bus parking situations? He is not suited to the EPL and needs to goto a slower, less physical league asap.

{Ed002's Note - No, that wasn’t it.}

9.) 25 Jun 2022 18:23:55
I’d take Werner for a reasonable price. Wasn’t it something to do with hearing/ crowd noise etc not tight spaces?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

10.) 25 Jun 2022 19:05:18
I think Werner would be great under Klopp. However we don’t need him now with Diaz and Nunez capable of playing on the left and Jota, Bobby and Nunez capable of playing through the middle. It’s a left sided attacker we need.

11.) 25 Jun 2022 19:05:36
Right sided I meant to say!

12.) 25 Jun 2022 19:22:49
Taki, Mane and Div replaced with Nunez doesn't add up. When is Gakpo getting announced?

13.) 25 Jun 2022 19:30:19
I try and watch as much football as possible, even if it’s not Liverpool. Watched a lot of Chelsea games over the last two years and we shouldn’t go anywhere near him. Seems like a nice lad and in a way feel sorry for him at times. But he simply cannot grasp the offside line and makes all the wrong decisions most of the time. Also he finishing is below par, which was surprising when you compare him to the Werner of Red Bull. What he does have is pace but pace without football intelligence is useless. Just have to look no further than a certain Mr. Adama Traoré for an example of that.

14.) 25 Jun 2022 20:32:44
Werner didn't happen because we wanted extended payment terms, and Chelsea was able to pay the £47 Million upfront. That's why and how we got Jota a couple of months later in the summer of 2020; Wolves gave us extended payment terms on the
£41 Million (plus add-ons) .

15.) 25 Jun 2022 21:26:38
@Spaceman, you forgot Diaz and Carvalho. Nunez, Diaz and Carvalho have replaced Mane, Taki and Div.

16.) 26 Jun 2022 10:35:23
Taki and Div hardly needed replacing with the amount of minutes they played in the league. Cup games I see Gordon playing the minutes Taki did in the early cup rounds. With Bobby Jota as the main back ups to are forwards no AFCON this season so we won’t be losing 2 of are main forwards less minutes to go around it all so looks as if Ox is staying for at least the last year of his contract we seemed stacked with players. For me if we do sign anybody else this window we need to get rid of players first that are not going to play to many minutes. Like if we do sign another midfielder Naby and Ox need to go otherwise we are just going to be blocking Elliott and Carvalho’s minutes.

17.) 26 Jun 2022 12:28:51
Is it possible we might have injuries Grino? That might impact game time.

18.) 26 Jun 2022 18:09:30
I'd happily swap Jota for Werner - Don't shoot me - Jota makes me feel like his ability is capped. Whereas Timo is a Kinder Surprise. Just presently without the paper instructions inside!



17 Jun 2022 17:46:21
Ed002: just a friendly reminder i posted yesterday as regards to who you think the next batch of Youngsters worth watching will be and also the situation at Derby County, any info you could provide would be much appreciated.


{Ed002's Note - I have not had the time to do this yet - another gentle reminder on Monday or Tuesday would be great.}



16 Jun 2022 10:27:25
Ed002: If you have the time would you be so kind as to let us know who in your opinion are the next batch of highly rated footballers to look out for in the coming years.

Also i Know its not a Liverpool matter but how do you see the situation at Derby County panning out? i only ask as you have often said there are too many football clubs already and as we are seeing more and more, a lot of them are struggling fiancially.

I hope you and your loved ones are keeping well.


{Ed002's Note - Could you please remind me tomorrow - I will try and think about it.}



23 May 2022 15:15:28
Ed002: forgive me if you have answered this question elsewhere but how will the upcoming season be played out that will include the world cup in quatar?

Also do you expect Neco williams to join fulham permanently?


{Ed002's Note - I expect NW will join Fulham.

Game 1: August 6 weekend
Last pre-break game: August 12 weekend
Resumes post break: December 26
Final games: May 28, 2023

1.) 23 May 2022 16:44:05
Much appreciated. Thank you.

2.) 23 May 2022 20:03:27
ed, would a fee of £8million be about right for Williams?

3.) 24 May 2022 19:13:37
are you saying there is only 6 days between the season starting and the break ed002. could be a typo lol.

{Ed002's Note - well spotted - November.}



29 Mar 2022 00:42:32
Ed002: sorry in advance if you have already covered this, does klopp still have the hots for Sarr from watford?

Thanks for all the info you have provided not only on these pages but all across the board, much appreciated.


{Ed002's Note - Ismaila Sarr (RW) Still of interest to Liverpool. Offered to Newcastle. Will be available in the summer. And thanks.}




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15 Jun 2022 02:48:28
I hope everybody is finding the time to watch the 130 best liverpool goals, there has been some crackers on there so far and more to come.

I still cannot believe we have signed a player that i did not think we could sign- welcome to Anfield Darwin Nunez! although he would have the number 9 shirt if i had anything to do with it.

Thank you fellow posters for making me laugh regarding spurs, i confidently predict they will not finish above us or Man city, to do so would require them to have a perfect season and for both the current top 2 to drop there standards considerably.

Finally for those bewildered by England under Southgate pop over to the chelsea site and read Ed001's superb summary, he sums up international football perfectly.

Now when are we going to annouce the double signing of the Bellingham brothers?

This is the silly season after all and one can always dream.

I hope LiverpoolManc is doing well and to all the other posters and Editors i hope you are enjoying the Sunshine and are all healthy and Happy.


1.) 15 Jun 2022 21:20:52
There is an obsession on this site with the word "Bellingham" that I don't see. Even for a 16 year old.

2.) 15 Jun 2022 21:41:51
KK7, been watching those too. My goodness, there are some deadly finishes on there esp from MacDermott, Kenny and Keegan. Worth the watch.

3.) 16 Jun 2022 00:54:55
Haha the club should just sign Jude for the social media traffic he will produce amongst Liverpool fans. Get some sponsors involved and he’s basically Be a free lol.



07 Jun 2022 12:04:22
I have just been reading about Caoimhin Kelleher considering quitting liverpool in the summer and i have to say i understand where he is coming from.

First of all he has to displace the greatest liverpool goalkeeper of my lifetime which is no easy task.

Secondly Becker still has plenty of miles on his clock and also Kelleher is already 23 and he must feel time is already slipping away.

When he and the club sit down to have a conversation about his career and it comes to light he does want to leave, i only hope we do not price him out of a move.

Its always difficult when you are a goalkeeper as you cannot play elsewhere, although we could have done a lot worse than stick him back up front during the tail end of the season.

Whatever happens he is part of lfc history, he has his place on the mural and the memory of scoring the winning penalty in a domestic cup final, after keeping a clean sheet.

I always admire players who want to play regulary and have a career rather than spend most of it as a back up.


1.) 07 Jun 2022 12:36:58
He should not have signed that delicious 5 year contract last season if he wanted to leave.

2.) 07 Jun 2022 13:34:52
Suspect a factor is that he has an opportunity to establish himself as no. 1 for Ireland this window with Bazunu injured.

But if next season rolls around and Kelleher is still on our bench and City loan out Bazunu again and he plays every week, it's safe to bet he'll drop behind him again no matter how well he plays.

Or maybe he was just put on the spot by the media and was too open with his response.

3.) 07 Jun 2022 14:58:26
Who knows what's going to happen in football tho Oh Mane Mane, Allison could have wanted to do a legger like your namesake this summer.

4.) 07 Jun 2022 14:34:43
Literally what Oh Mane Mane said.

5.) 07 Jun 2022 16:50:26
OP, how''s he going to do that when he just signed a big extension to his contract? Just asking.

6.) 07 Jun 2022 17:26:47
We should also put a buy back option/ clause in a deal looks a decent keeper cool head.

{Ed002's Note - I would very much doubt that.}



31 May 2022 11:34:35
In amongst all the talk of new signings and players leaving, who from the next crop of youngsters are expected to break through to the first team?

Any posters who have watched the under 23's on a regular basis, your feedback would be appreciated.

I myself thought we would see more of Kaide Gordon this year but others think that might be too soon.

If we can get another TAA, or Curtis Jones coming through that benefit everyone.

After all not every player has to come with a transfer fee and yes i am aware we bought gordon from Derby.


1.) 31 May 2022 12:04:48
I think all of the most promising prospects got their chance this season ala Morton, Beck, Gordon, Bradley amongst others.
From the next batch (~16 yrs currently), I think Ljinders talked about Callum Scanlon, Bobby Clark, and Luke Chambers. So, you can expect to see them in pre season definitely. Also, Layton Stewart is back from his ACL injury, and if things go well we might see him debut next season. There was a lot of hype around him before his injury. A lot of people also describe James Balagizi as being extremely talented, but he seems to struggle with consistency. Then there's Van Den Berg, who has had an excellent 18 months at Preston, but CB is the position we are most well stocked in, right now.

2.) 31 May 2022 12:18:37
I don't think any of the better u18's and u19's are ready yet. Cannonier, Pitaluga, Frauendorf, Norris, Clayton, Clark and Musialowski are the standouts though. Might see some of them in pre-season maybe. You just never know how many of them will make it. Clark's the best of the bunch for me.

Next season though i do think we should give some game time to the u23's who've already had a few chances; Morton, Dixon-Bonner Bradley, Beck, Quansah, Koumetio, Van de Berg, Woltman, Longstaff, Gordon etc. None of them will make it if we don't throw them in from time to time. I'd say all of these lads are ready for senior football so if it's not with us, they need to go on loan.

I think R. Williams, N. Williams, Woodburn, Ojo, Cain, Lewis, Glatzel and Clarkson should be moved on. They've all had chances and loan spells but none look up to it other than Neco who doesn't fancy being back up.

3.) 31 May 2022 12:19:35
I’m hoping Musileuski will break through soon. Looks an exciting player, but I don’t mind who to be honest as long there is one.

4.) 31 May 2022 12:38:58
Can’t see any of them ready yet or close to
Pushing any of the 1st teamers.

5.) 31 May 2022 13:16:45
Thanks for the replies. I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens.

6.) 31 May 2022 14:04:18
Gordon will get more time this year, top talent.

7.) 31 May 2022 14:28:49
Funny thing is, I don't recall trents name ringing lots of bells on here until he just popped up. I wouldn't put it past any of our youngsters.

8.) 31 May 2022 15:19:43
Looking forward to seeing some of the lads get a chance in preseason games.
The one I'm most intrigued about is Oakley Cannonier just as he's scored an insane amount of goals for the U18s, if this was football manager then he'd definitely be in my 1st team squad next year!

9.) 31 May 2022 21:01:22
Can you imagine? Sheyi Ojo was on our first team squad roster in 2015 (before Klopp arrived) . He was 14 when he arrived and he's 25 now. He's had 8 consecutive loans. I have no idea who has held on; the club or the player; but this is a great shame and he should have been let go to find his destiny a long time ago.

10.) 01 Jun 2022 03:44:53
The youngsters have to be really outstanding to break through really. I mean Elliot earned his stripes in the Championship. Otherwise even someone like Taki who hit double figure goals this year, barely got a look in with the first team other than the cups. So it would take a really outstanding youngster to break through and I don't see any of them being likely tbh.



25 May 2022 00:54:31
Congratulations To Jurgen Klopp on being manager of the year!

To truly celebrate let's bring home number 7 and let the normal one complete a wonderful treble.

A totally and utterly deserved awarded, made even sweeter as it was presented to him by Sir Alex!

No doubt Micah Richards and BBC Salford will have more articles telling us how pep has reinvented the wheel!

Speaking of which the BBC has had to issue a apology to Man utd for telling the world they are rubbish!
They finally get something right and they have to apologize for it!


{Ed0666's Note - that last sentence was hilarious mate 😂

1.) 25 May 2022 02:14:58
Very good KK😂.

2.) 25 May 2022 05:07:38
We’d all like to apologise to Manchester United and their fans

We’re sorry, we’re so, so sorry it must be awful for you

With a great big nod to Victoria Wood.

3.) 25 May 2022 07:32:31
Victoria Wood?

4.) 25 May 2022 07:52:37
The thinking woman’s Dick Emery Barry 😀.

5.) 25 May 2022 09:10:19
Micah Richards should be on CBeebies.

6.) 25 May 2022 09:21:59
She did a famous sketch on a BBC comedy show Barry. She said something like ‘on behalf of the BBC I I’d like to apologise to the people in the North, it must be awful. ’.

7.) 25 May 2022 14:07:23
Oh I never saw that so thank you WDW. Always a place in my heart for Dick Emery Juicer.

8.) 25 May 2022 15:08:56
I like Dick and Wood Juicer.



23 May 2022 22:52:09
could it be possible we lose Salah, and Mane this summer?

We know that Origi is Milan bound and there are also rumours that Lazio, Inter and leeds are interested in Takki, Firmino has also been muted as leaving that would leave us with Jota and Diaz as our only senior attackers.

Would Klopp let both Salah and Mane go at the same time? and if he does than surely we would already have players lined up to take there place.

This is purely me speculating but of course eventually the current front line will need replacing and refreshing its just a question of when and how.

The Salah situation shows no sign of ending and we know Bayern would love to sign Mane.

It will be interesting to see what happens after the cl final as regards to our strikers.


1.) 23 May 2022 23:16:14
I think Mane will go and Diaz has already replaced him . it depends on Real how much offer they make for Salah coz the club would want to resolve ASAP after CL. So yes there's possibility Both can go

Think Klopp must be already thinking abt evolution when he extended he's contract.

2.) 24 May 2022 03:37:27
We won't be losing both in the window. If I were to lose one, it would be Mane because we have enough cover on the left side in Diaz and Jota. Having said that I hope both stay and we move on Firmino, TM and the Ox and use the funds raised to buy a forward thinking midfielder.

3.) 24 May 2022 06:10:35
I 100% agree that Diaz has replaced Mane on the left wing but then at the same time Mane has replaced Bobby and Jota in the centre forward position. I think only Kane and Ronaldo scored more league goals from the centre forward position this season and Mane played there for about 3 and a half months of it.

I’m not sure other top class teams would be in such a rush to get rid of a goal scoring centre forward.

4.) 24 May 2022 08:18:24
Yes jk23 mate but other teams don't have players who've just one yr left and looking for last big pay check?

5.) 24 May 2022 08:18:28
Agree JK, however, if we go by what Ed002 has told us, Mané and his agent have some serious financial demands. It again comes down to how much the club are willing to pay. This whole Mbappe deal with PSG has again just falsely inflated the football economy and will further alienate the sport from the fans.

6.) 24 May 2022 08:45:31
Kopforever and Stuie I agree lads it’s not an ideal position to be in but who’s fault is it that the players are down to 12 months.
With regards to Mane I know it’s been said he has high financial demands but he’s like our 10th top earner so either money isn’t that important to him or if it is then maybe he deserves a bumper pay rise. After all Ox, Milner, Naby and Bobby etc get paid far more than him with far less output on the pitch.

Only an opinion lads. I’m desperate to see both Salah and Mane stay and if truth be told if Utd or City were in this position we’d probably laugh at them for messing it up.

7.) 24 May 2022 09:04:04
Don't know why I think Klopp would be extremely happy if Salah and mane can bring decent pot of cash tho

If you've listened klopp's recent interviews carefully he talks a lot abt 'building again' 'next phase' etc etc.

8.) 24 May 2022 10:13:32
Kopforever every team has to rebuild mate but haven’t Mane and Salah just proven that they are still in their prime. Moving players on is part and parcel but moving them on when they are still producing such quality could be a mistake.

I know we say we need to cash in on Salah and Mane before it’s too late but for me is there any need to cash in. What if Bowen at 50-80 mill and Nunez at 70-80 mill not including wages etc don’t hit the ground running or actually get found out at bigger clubs.

Last year we tied down a 30 year old Henderson to a big long term contract and the season before we bought Thiago.

If the basis is to sell Mane and Salah Because they are 30 then we haven’t got long left to enjoy Vvd 30. Fab 28, Robbo 28 and Allison 29.

9.) 24 May 2022 10:50:50
Jk23 mate you're ignoring in 2-3 yrs will need to replace them without them having any value.

We have an ageing squad which needs to start to be refreshed.

It doesn't make any sense for our club to commit huge chunk of our revenue on Salah and mane when they're not part of our future.

The club have no option but start the next phase of our evolution coz you can't have your best assets at 30+

Just look at city how smartly they're letting their 30+ years old players leave and bringing more youthful in their squad .

Just look at Diaz how much fire he has come with? We need more of them if we want the continuity of our success.

{Ed001's Note - they kept David Silva for a while and he only left because he rejected a very good offer to return home. They still have Fernandinho, even though he is well past his best and Kompany only left because he chose to leave. The ones that are replaced are the ones that fall out with Pep, nothing to do with age.}

10.) 24 May 2022 11:06:44
Kopforever you’re ignoring the fact that the club have already offered Salah a new contract and haven’t said anything about wanting to sell Mane. So I’m not sure if Klopp is in that much of a rush to lose them.

We are going on the basis of we need to sell to buy but what happened with succeed to buy. Surely the success of this season in PL and Europe has increased revenue and why can’t we sign Bowen and Nunez in 12-24 months time when their contracts have either run down or have less time left on them.

11.) 24 May 2022 11:06:33
Ed1 mate thought City are Open to move on İlkay Gündoğan, fernandinho and even sterling if they can find the buyer?

{Ed001's Note - that is not because of their age, except in Fernandinho's case, who should have gone 2 years ago. Pep has wanted rid of Sterling since the day he took charge.}




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25 Jun 2022 17:15:08
Agreed WYred he could be Torres in reverse, awful at chelsea yet good in a reds shirt.

I still remember how excited most of us were when we thought he was nailed on to join us.

If Klopp was to dial the number i don't think he would get reported for tapping up on this occasion!


{Ed0666's Note - I agree with you & WYRred the only difference between a heralded Werner and a ridiculed Werner is hitting the post a tonne of times, wretched luck and composure in front of goal which was largely due to the lack of confidence. There is a real player in there and like you guys said I think klopp could really harness and nurture that. For me Werner would have been a cheaper alternative to Nunez and maybe even a safer one. I’m ready for the abuse. ?



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25 Jun 2022 10:06:12
you don't know what you've got till its gone! Salah will be greatly missed, but he will be replaced and life will go on.




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16 Jun 2022 10:18:22
I personally cannot understand why we don't sell Phillips to Bournemouth for £15m.

Why after getting regular first team football would he want to come back to be 4th choice? which in reality means he may get the odd game in the league cup.

The only problem i see with Matip is the fact he is on high wages.

We need to start cutting loose players who have no future with us, all across the board.

We are stuck with Keita because of his personal problems and the simple fact nobody else wants him- he also is no doubt on high wages, the only way he leaves is when his contract officially expires and the club itself does not renew it.




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08 Jun 2022 12:54:42
@warmachine73: good point! what you have to say though is that he took all of his goals against us very clinically.

We need a striker who will bury those chances on a more consistent basis- we drew 8 games last season and in the majority of those draws we looked back on wasted chances, IF and its a big IF Nunez is the real deal and we have a chance to sign him, we must take that chance in my humble opinion of course.




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31 May 2022 11:04:27
In other words a massive gamble that could end up causing disruption.
Let chelsea buy him.

This reminds me of that other talented but idotic player we once had, Mario B - where is he again now?





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25 Jun 2022 17:25:13
Not forgetting OMM that if we don't win our first 2 matches we will already be out of the title race.




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25 Jun 2022 17:21:50
Injuries sustained at the world cup could have a massive bearing on both the top and bottom of the league.

Clubs will have to learn to use the 5 subs rule cleverly to protect players.

I just cannot get behind a sportswashing world cup being held in a non footballing country with such a appalling human rights record.
Its wrong on so many levels.




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25 Jun 2022 17:07:48
ArAY1969: Another way of looking at it is that he has failed in pretty much everything he has been given to do.

1) Salah wanted to be Madrid's next poster boy= Failed
2) Earn up to £400,000 PW at liverpool = Failed

I don't see where he has the upper hand either LFC have already bought in Diaz and Nunez, he has seen with Mane what liverpool's owners will do if a player wants to leave.

He has said he is prepared to stay on for 1 more year but he still will not be getting the wages he wants.

In The meantime the owners are already ( w/ Klopp) preparing for
life without him.

I may be wrong but that does not sound like a successful agent to me, i would argue that he is running out of cards to play as well.

Time will tell i guess but we are entering the last chapter in the book of Salah.




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25 Jun 2022 10:02:37
Could it be his agent is difficult to deal with? just a thought.




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25 Jun 2022 09:52:28
Always informative Ed001- the ongoing comedy squabbling between PSG and LA Liga is pure gold. The irony of there childish name calling is lost on both of them.