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07 Aug 2019 14:29:45
Wow I totally missed the fact that Rhys Williams had joined Kidderminster Harriers on loan until January. Playing in the national league north should toughen him up a bit, and John Pemberton seems like a good coach. Good luck Rhys!
1.) 07 Aug 2019 15:58:34
Was in the team of the week first game, good start!
With all these cb’s leaving seems we are very light in defence for youth.
2.) 08 Aug 2019 09:34:10
Yeah I was looking forward to seeing him and van den Berg partnered up.
20 Jun 2019 09:02:07
Mornin Eds.
Reading conflicting reports of Rafa Camacho supposedly off to either Schalke or Sporting, any chance Ed002 or anyone knows what's really happening and can clear this up?
Thanks very much and have a great day.
{Ed002's Note - Rafael Camacho (AM) Sporting still want a loan to buy deal but will have an influx of money which will allow them to commit to buying. Interest of Benfica has probably gone as they were looking to a loan with an option to buy. Wolves are interested and have been for sometime. Schalke have been in discussions with Liverpool recently and are interested in buying the player outright.}
1.) 20 Jun 2019 11:00:01
Wow great thanks a mil Ed002!
{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}
2.) 20 Jun 2019 11:02:47
Thanks Ed! I am assuming, given the contract situation, we would do a loan to buy?
Do you think he has the qualities to of been given a chance at some point? Whenever I have seen him he has been decent enough but difficult to judge given his lack of experience!
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool want to sell him. He has been told he will get chances and that was untrue - he has also said when he did play it was out of position. This is the growing problem the Premier League clubs are seeing - the kids want immediate first team game time and those who have been promised chances (which we know Klopp does) then get miffed and want to move on. A month or so ago I was with the Sporting Director (and very high end scout) of a German side and he was in London looking at kids from Arsenal, Fulham and Chelsea and he was explaining that German sides are going to be pushing to look to signing kids from England as they offer realistic routes in to the top-level game. So lots of sides from Germany are looking.}
3.) 20 Jun 2019 12:05:22
It must be difficult for young players to be promised stuff like that for it to just be a lie!
I do think we should be giving more opportunities when maybe we are comfortable in a game to maybe let players like Camacho have 10/ 15mins of experience.
I just don’t get why managers don’t do that more often, and would of assumed Klopp would be someone of that ilk, do you think the pressure of being at Liverpool has led him to be less youth driven? I know at Dortmund he was really good at nurturing youth.
I believe the same thing Ed, it is an interesting approach by German clubs and one that we have seen is fruitful, we as a country of academy’s produce quite a lot of decent players but as you say we don’t ever offer as much exposure as German clubs.
What would be your approach to youth at Liverpool so that we are still offering a route to the first team and exposure that makes us seem an attractive club for your players and their development?
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are doing better than they used to but it is not structured or managed well still.}
4.) 20 Jun 2019 13:00:38
I suppose the difficulty managers have is that they may fully intend giving young players some time on the pitch but then that gets pushed aside once a certain group of players starts doing well. I doubt any Liverpool supporter - sad but true - wanted to see Camacho replace any of our players in the first team last season given we were pushing so hard for the league and CL. If he was playing out of his skin in training and the U21s then maybe he'd have got more chances but do we know if that was the case? Probably not.
{Ed002's Note - The answer is don't make promises or kowtow to players.}
5.) 20 Jun 2019 16:18:02
Agreed Ed, if that filters through the youth teams of broken promises that’s going to have a negative impact on the rest of them.
6.) 20 Jun 2019 16:42:15
Half the problem is expectancy of fans. If a young player doesn't hit the ground running or isn't Neymar then there's howls of "he's crap, get rid, spend £60 million on a suitable replacement". And this coming from fans who playing wise aren't fit to kiss the studs of the young players they're busy slagging off.
Unfortunately the sheer majority of fans these days have no idea at all of what it's like for players trying to climb through the ranks and stake their claim for a spot in the team/ squad.
7.) 20 Jun 2019 17:21:37
I think the problem (albeit a good problem) is that we're now at a standard 1 point behind an excellent Man City team and European Champions.
If we were still finishing 7th, like when Klopp took over, had an injury to our right sided attacker/ winger, and Shaqiri's signing just didn't work out, the likes of Camacho may have been given a chance.
The stakes are higher now that the level of quality in the squad is much higher and our attackers have been pretty much injury free.
It's different trying to break into the first team for an upper mid-table side than it is to break into a serial European finalists and title challengers side.
8.) 20 Jun 2019 22:10:57
Personally I'd say if the youth players were actually good enough to displace the starting 11 and were leaving we would have a problem.
9.) 21 Jun 2019 00:51:18
Not sure what the answer is in the PL, but it seems the way to get above the opposition, you can't do it with the kids, unless they are exceptional, players like Trent for instance! Aren't the younger players happy enough to go on decent loans, with a clause that says they have to play a certain amount of games, like I believe we have done? Camacho for one, he had to understand who was in front of him to play in his favoured place! Maybe we didn't go as far as we had hoped in the domestic cups or these fringe players might have played more, who knows!
10.) 21 Jun 2019 00:52:03
I guess it could partly be because the premier league is so competitive. There really no stroll in the park games like in Germany or Spain (sides that would struggle to stay in the championship) to blood youth into the side. Domestic cup runs are another matter both but we did terribly in both.
11.) 20 Jun 2019 23:45:43
@johnnyr1970: Camacho was top scorer for the U23s and one of the stars this season. It's simply a lack of patience. He's only 18 but could realistically have envisioned overtaking Shaqiri next season and maybe even replacing Salah when he leaves in a year or two. He's a good young player but not developed enough yet to be a consistent first teamer. Like Ed002 keeps saying, it's a problem that many clubs are having with youth players and the reason German clubs are quite cleverly fishing around in England. Best case scenario probably a good offer from Schalke for example with a buy-back clause if possible.
12.) 21 Jun 2019 03:56:48
interesting ed002, i had to google and didn't realise kowtow's accepted use in english language.
learn something new everyday i suppose.
{Ed002's Note - I see it as a social service to try and teach the Liverpool supporters a farrago of new words every day.}
13.) 21 Jun 2019 12:59:37
ed002 would you say apart from the big 2 teams most leagues have got. Would you say the premier league is the easiest league to get sacked. Bringing more pressure to managers here making it harder to blood youth players unless they are all ready top class. Its like they need to be at the same standard as full Internationals as soon as they get in the teams. What does not help as well is the value young british players have on them ryan sessegnon springs to mind with the £50m they rated him at before he had even played in the top flight. And with Youth players some are so much more developed than others and it makes them look so much better than until they play against men and they lose that advantage.
{Ed002's Note - I don't really get the question but the answer would be no if you think more coaches get sacked in the PL than elsewhere - take last season - the Bundesliga, Serie A, Ligue 1 and La Liga all saw more coaches sacked than the PL.}
14.) 21 Jun 2019 14:34:30
yes ed002 that was the point I thought more coaches got sacked here. So I was just think they don't have the time to blood young players in. And with are league being the most competitive I does make it harder. Was it a good year for are managers last season though ed can't remember to many getting the chop. I think Fulham got rid of 2 not sure about Huddersfield did there manager walk then there was Southampton, utd and Leicester but that seems quite low for normal.
{Ed002's Note - The Spanish and Italian sides are rather less forgiving than the PL sides. It is unrelated to playing kids.}
10 Jun 2019 10:25:42
Whether we sign any or all of Pepe, Cornet or Mazraoui, I'm guessing it won't be until after the Africa Cup of Nations. Of course there'll be machinations and agreements going on in the background, but (unless an urgent need arises) taking a player from his national team to go sign and do as medical etc. would be an unwanted distraction. So whatever deals are done probably won't be finalized until after the tournament. So let's just try to relax and enjoy watching our current and future Anfield Africa superstars and give the Eds a break from the same questions for a few weeks.
(PS: So strange Fabinho wasn't picked for Brazil's Copa America squad, especially considering his versatility. I guess Tite likes a specialist, but come on, Fágner? He wasn't even good enough for Wolfsburg)
1.) 10 Jun 2019 23:41:17
I think it is good news for us that he isn't picked. Be great to get a full season out of Fabinho next year.
31 May 2019 12:47:36
Just read Milner is to be offered a 1 year extension and Matip will get a new contract. Both are good news imo.
1.) 31 May 2019 13:26:47
Yeh great news.
Hope Milner decides to stay and Matip deserves a new contract.
2.) 31 May 2019 19:03:10
It will be an easier task replacing Salah than Milner.
Great news if true.
3.) 01 Jun 2019 10:55:58
I thought Milner would leave if Leeds were promoted but they weren't so I see him staying, he's a very influential player who any team would be lucky to have, if this is true then its great news. I won't comment on Matip (prove me wrong lad, go and score the winner tonight) .
21 May 2019 10:42:13
Just read Brandt's signing for Dortmund.
Is it true Eds?
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any agreement but my view was that Julian Brandt would become a viable option if Bayer Leverkusen did't make the CL (which they have). Add to that Borussia Dortmund have already agreed the transfer of a not entirely dissimilar Thorgan Hazard so they may not push for a deal - although they do remain keen on adding an AM.}
1.) 21 May 2019 11:46:39
I think given Leverkusen have qualified for the champions league their two main stars will stay. Havertz and Brandt they are both developing well, young, will be competing at the highest level.
2.) 21 May 2019 13:02:58
Any alternatives for us Ed yet if he does go there or is it all as you have previously explained?
{Ed002's Note - It is as I have explained.}
3.) 21 May 2019 13:37:37
I doubt that southern.
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19 Aug 2019 15:11:06
Based on another excellent article by Dr. Rajpal Brar on Alisson's injury, it looks like an estimated 3 week recovery. Meaning he could be back for the trip to Burnley, but probably won't be risked. Hopefully he won't have to travel to Florida and California with the Brazil squad and can stay home to recover fully for Newcastle to come to Anfield and give him a nice easy return game.
1.) 19 Aug 2019 16:11:45
Nothing against Adrian but I cannot wait for Allison to be back. The guy is as cool as a cucumber and brings a massive calming influence to our defence.
2.) 19 Aug 2019 16:58:35
I’ve not read this and wouldn’t no were to look for it tbh. Can it be taken with any accuracy Ed001?
{Ed001's Note - no idea I have not read it.}
3.) 19 Aug 2019 18:39:10
This is Anfield site. I had to Google it. Seems to know his stuff.
4.) 19 Aug 2019 20:26:20
Jk I was just saying the same to a mate of mine. As much as I think VVD has improved us I think Alisson’s Presence is wort more.
05 Aug 2019 14:41:24
Welcome Adrián! lookin very handsome with the liver bird on his chest.
04 Aug 2019 22:46:55
Hey, Eds! I'll bet yous a Fiver that Liverpool WILL make a signing before the deadline. Just for a laugh. If I lose, I'll pay. Is the donation button still there?
(PS: If I win, I'll prob let yous off with an IOU, since y'all have given me so much information and banter over the years. I thank you. Much respect and good wishes for the new season. :) )
1.) 05 Aug 2019 08:44:44
Wrote this before I read about Mignolet, so a replacement No2 goalkeeper doesn't count.
2.) 05 Aug 2019 08:57:59
Brave bet considering we have just sold Migs so will be buying another keeper! Why not just donate the money to charity anyway.
28 Jul 2019 18:23:54
Evening Eds, just watching us Vs Napoli and aside from generally seeming pretty sluggish (perhaps double sessions taking their toll? ) It doesn't seem that Ox and Gini are an ideal solution as wide forwards. Anyway, I'm just wondering, is the deadline for loaning out young players the same as the Prem transfer window? Or I mean, when will we have to make a decision on whether to keep or loan Wilson, Jones, Woodburn etc.? Thanks a billion.
{Ed002's Note - The deadline relates to players ebing registered not leaving - so as long as the window is open wherever they are going that is fine.}
1.) 28 Jul 2019 19:43:29
Wilson, Jones, Woodburn or whoever will not be able to play versus Norwich and then go on loan to another English team. If that is what you are asking.
2.) 28 Jul 2019 19:49:22
Ed002 has been telling us for months the money is not there for us to buy big unless we sell big. what's not to understand?
3.) 28 Jul 2019 19:38:22
Ah yes, of course, gotcha Ed002. Thanks for the reply. But do I recall correctly that the Championship and English League loan window extension is a thing of the past?
{Ed002's Note - The extension yes, but there are options elsewhere that should not be forgotten (Scotland, Netherlands, Iceland) - and maybe one of the interested sides will make an offer.}
4.) 28 Jul 2019 20:54:53
Oh, interesting choices of countries Ed002, and I know you don't deal in hearsay. I'll get onto my two best mates tomorrow (A Celtic fan and Ajax fan from Glasgow and Amsterdam) to fish for who they might fancy. ;)
@Shanks: Sorry, I don't understand your comment. I didn't mention signings, I'm discussing our youth players.
Personally, my favorite thing in football is to watch a young player become a star naturally. Forget transfers. (not wanting to diss the whole origin of this website, but there are so many other factors to talk about) .
Big money and big transfers can often impede young players' lives and development, there are many examples, so the best thing we have is the collective, the group. YNWA!
5.) 28 Jul 2019 21:41:03
@Shanks. that is not what Ed002 has been saying at all. He has been saying that if a big player was to come in, it would be because another is leaving. He has not mentioned once, that it is because we don't have the money.
It is because we don't have space for a big player unless one of the first team was to leave.
6.) 29 Jul 2019 09:41:06
Epic potato, maybe you should listen to the manager for information because he said we haven't got the money for big signings, ed002 really knows his stuff but maybe you've read his replies incorrectly or just to suit your own agenda maybe.
13 Jul 2019 02:11:49
I read a thread asking for people's 'Liverpool's Top 5 signings of the Premier League era'? My answer naturally and swiftly followed: Alisson, Virgil, Robertson, Firmino, Mane, Salah, Milner, wait, how many is that? Hendo, Fabinho, Origi, Matip, Gomez, uhm, and all the rest! :)
YNWA.
1.) 13 Jul 2019 04:51:23
So the majority of Liverpool’s best premier league signings are all in the past 3/ 4 years?
2.) 13 Jul 2019 05:11:44
Hyypia, Alonso, Alisson, Van Dijk and Firmino. Would be my five.
Plenty of great talents not included but I tried to factor in ability as well as contribution/ difference to trophy winning season's. Feels weird not to have Salah or Mane in there, but I think Firmino is the fulcrum of their success.
3.) 13 Jul 2019 06:14:06
Value for money bargain signings, hyypia, Alonso, coutinho, Robertson, Gomez, all under 10mil and vastly improved at Liverpool. Suarez, Torres, salah, mane, all turned world class after modest fees.
Milner, McAlister excellent experience added for free, invaluable contributions.
VVD and Allison, huge money but in terms of immediate impact, hugely influential signings.
Kuyt, hamann, Murphy, finnan also shrewd understated transfers.
4.) 13 Jul 2019 07:40:32
Alonso, Robertson, Hyypia, Coutinho, VVD.
You simply can't leave Coutinho out. Not just for how much of a good player he was for us but the massive profit we made on him. We signed him for £8.5 million.
5.) 13 Jul 2019 07:54:13
And Hyypia, Alonso, Mascherano, Torres and Suarez do not even get a mention.
6.) 13 Jul 2019 08:10:35
VVD, Allison, Hyypia, Alonso and then Torres. followed very close by Salah, Mane and Suarez if we had one the league that year with Suarez as much as a rat he was he would have been number one. But he comes.
{Ed033's Note - Who comes? Is it the one who won the league? :)
7.) 13 Jul 2019 09:19:11
Vvd, Allison, Alonso, Hyypia, Torres. Would have to be my pick.
8.) 13 Jul 2019 09:37:51
Worst top 5 for a bit of banter. Kozma, piechnik, Ferri, Dundee, kennedy.
9.) 13 Jul 2019 09:57:28
Mane has to be number 1. Without him the rest wouldn't have followed. He changed the team almost on his own 3-4 years ago.
10.) 13 Jul 2019 10:05:56
In terms of worst for what we paid and expectations. Carroll, Keane, aquilani, markovich, benteke.
Honourable mention to ossama assaidi and Milan jovanovic.
11.) 13 Jul 2019 10:06:00
My top 5
Allison, VVD, Suarez, Xabi,
honorable mentions - pepe, hendo, didi
my under the radar top 5
lucas, arbeloa, henchoz, maxi rodriguez, Ciise.
12.) 13 Jul 2019 10:09:49
Torres, Alonso, Allison, Van Dijk, Firmino.
13.) 13 Jul 2019 10:26:09
Worst signing has got to be El Hadji Diouf.
14.) 13 Jul 2019 11:59:46
sorry Ed033 Suarez comes down the pecking order for not winning any of the big comps and all the trouble he brought with him. but he did nearly win us the league that season with one of the best player season I have seen.
15.) 13 Jul 2019 13:39:34
@Har_red92 Robbie Keane didn't actually play badly for us, it wasn't his fault he was used as part of the power struggle. Scored 5 goals + 4 assists in half a season and 2+1 in 5 CL games and and didn't even get a chance to settle in. If however you mean that it was one of the worst pieces of business because of the way the suits back then handled it, I'd agree. Also bought for €24m and sold back 6 months later for €16.7m, like come on! We love you Michael Edwards, please never leave.
16.) 13 Jul 2019 14:31:18
I liked Robbie Keane as a player very much, I just kind of meant he was our big signing that summer and we all were hoping him and Torres would be a deadly duo, he tried his best but it wasn't working. Poorly managed situation.
17.) 13 Jul 2019 15:51:04
Lot of good players mentioned above but no Dirk Kuyt? Honestly, the work rate of our current crop is phenomenal, but the only ones who come close to how hard this guy grafted on the pitch are probably Milner and Robbo. Firmino's press is intelligent but not as insistent.
18.) 13 Jul 2019 16:00:12
Best:
Hyypia (longevity)
Alisson (ability)
Robertson (value)
Worst:
Keane (longevity)
Leto (ability)
Carroll (value)
19.) 13 Jul 2019 16:06:20
Xabi Alonso, Sami Hyypia, Virgil Van Dijk, Alisson, Gary Mac
4 of them brought us the big ear, Gary Mac brought us treble.
20.) 13 Jul 2019 16:24:15
Robbo anyone. Bargain. Great player.
21.) 14 Jul 2019 00:03:15
Best
Van djike
Torres
Technically we did sign fowler, so yeah, god.
Alonso
Salah (how is salah not on everyones list? He broke all the records set by rush, fowler, owen and torres)
Worst
Ballotelli
Zeigle
Morientes
Aquilani
Vorinin
May not be the worst players to play for us but all were expected to be big big players and all were really poor.
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06 Sep 2019 13:40:04
So sth like:
Dael Fry Lovren
Lallana B Fernandes
-> Dwight McNeil (my pick not based on Ed002 info)
Also, great to hear from Ed002 and thanks for the insight, especially during this dull lull in the season, it's much appreciated.
As previously discussed, do you still see the LB cover for Robertson coming from within? I like Larouchi, but he does still seem like a rather rough diamond.
Which reminds me, isn't Anderson Arroyo going somewhere or what's the story there now?
Thanks!
04 Sep 2019 08:18:50
Is he also Jamie Carragher's cousin?
02 Sep 2019 14:42:19
Give the kid a break, I wish him well. Still hope he sacks the agent though.
29 Aug 2019 09:29:00
As for Herbie Kane he already proved himself in League one so with the Championship window also closed (dunno why he didn't go to Hull) I guess a loan to the Scottish Prem is the best option or even better still to a stronger league abroad. Of course that all depends on if any interest materializes and from where.
29 Aug 2019 09:18:09
I don't actually believe a word that scumbag agent claimed.
"boy is in real trouble mentally, physically and emotionally because of this, and I really pray that his experience doesn’t happen to any young players again. ”
Like what? The kid's 18 and under contract at his boyhood club, only a year ago when he signed he wrote;
“I have waited so long for this day to finally come, joining a club I’ve grown up watching and supported all my life. Liverpool is my boyhood club, my dream! Now let’s get down to business. "
And now after one good season at U18 level he is:
“never going back there again and he’s on such a small salary that no amount of fines will even make a difference. ”
Huh? Again, he's under contract but now it's the agent making it about money, which is hardly a first.
He also claimed Liverpool told Duncan he wouldn't be receiving a new contract and “have even gone as far as saying in writing that they will punish him and make him stay at the club until January and beyond to teach him a lesson. ”
Teach him a lesson? This really sounds like bs to me. For a while now Liverpool's clear and obvious policy has been to give young players a new contract before sending them on loan. Pretty sure they wouldn't suddenly change that for one player.
As Carra said, Duncan should sack this no good agent asap and Liverpool should never deal with him again. Of course we don't know exactly how BD is behaving regarding all this but he certainly seems to be getting some bad advice. The best thing for him would be to sign a new contract and then go on loan to the top tier in Holland or Belgium where I think he could thrive, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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05 Sep 2019 12:56:48
Ah yes Jerome Sinclair, now on loan at Venlo in the Eredivisie. 3 starts, 2 sub appearances, 0 goals, 0 assists, and 3 yellow cards. He is sorely missed.
Btw Fiorentina announced their "13 first-team summer signings" in a video on twatter and a certain cocky young English striker who is related to a certain former Liverpool captain was omitted.
05 Sep 2019 11:40:03
I'm guessing Laxalt left Milan to get more game time so there'd be no point in him coming to Liverpool.
03 Sep 2019 11:13:13
Liverpool sign young player to extended contracts before sending them on loan. The idea being to maintain their value and/ or provide them with a secure future at the club beyond the loan spell if they develop sufficiently. If Duncan wasn't going to sign a new contract then there was no point in sending him on loan for a year or wasting time and energy developing him.
{Ed002's Note - That is not the issue with Duncan.}
02 Sep 2019 15:25:09
Yeah Italy is a disgrace, I pity any black player who plays there. Cagliari in particular need to be severely punished and those fans banned, but it won't happen. Bunch of sick moronic fascist cavemen. For shame.
Oh and thanks a mil for the great Review Ed001! :)
{Ed001's Note - Cagliari have a real problem and need to sort it fast.
Very welcome.}
02 Sep 2019 15:22:43
He was dead right! I play as a box to box midfielder and have screamed my head off at teammates for not giving me a cutback after I've made up 30 yards with a late run into the box. It leaves you fuming for a few minutes but it soon passes, especially since the game was won, the performance good and mane got a goal. They'll have had a word among themsleves and that's it, move on.