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18 Aug 2020 17:10:52
Lazio want Shaqiri apparently.

Harveys Man Bun

1.) 18 Aug 2020 18:21:10
Instead of David Silva? That's a wee bit of a drop off.

2.) 18 Aug 2020 18:28:40
Thought Silva had joined Sociedad.

3.) 18 Aug 2020 18:32:24
Hopefully that will happen. He's got to be worth 25m.
We need a reliable rotation option who is not injured for months at a time, someone we can develop into a world beater.

4.) 18 Aug 2020 18:51:19
Spaceman, we already have a 1st choice attack of Mane, Firmino and Salah. We also have a 2nd choice attack of Origi, Minamino and Chamberlain. Plus a 3rd choice attack of Jones, Brewster and Elliott.

I don't think we should be looking to waste money on replacing Shaqiri personally. 9 players competing for 3 positions is a lot even if Jones and Ox do also cover in midfield. Shaqiri barely played last season.

5.) 18 Aug 2020 19:30:27
Origi has proved himself too inconsistent, Ox is better in the midfield and Minamino hasn't proved anything yet, it would be hard to rely on them at this point if others are available.

6.) 18 Aug 2020 19:50:25
taa001 i agree re Origi and Ox. Ox has never proved that he is a good fit for the front 3. Minamino i trust will come good, and whilst Div is a legend, i feel his space in the squad could be improved upon.
Im not sure Elliot will have too much pressure put on him at this stage of his career.
Personally id like to see Div and Shaq sold and replaced with one excellent player.

7.) 18 Aug 2020 20:03:27
Klopp seemed to prefer Ox in the front 3 more and more as last season went on. When you look at his goals running in behind against West Ham and Bournemouth, then the goal cutting in off the left wing against Southampton, or the back post first time finish vs Chelsea etc. it is very easy to see why Klopp likes him higher up. He's a very good goal threat when he's pushed up onto the shoulder.

Ox scored 8 goals last season. Origi scored 6 too. Both with limited gametime. Brewster 11 in half a season. Jones scored 3 in less than 10 starts. Minamino and Elliott have barely had a chance yet either.

Why some people want to replace them with average players like Sarr or Traore is a bit confusing to me. They couldn't outscore Ox or Origi even as regulars.

To be honest attack is the last place we need to sign anyone unless their are significant sales. In this post I've not even considered Shaqiri, Wilson, Ojo or Woodburn could yet stay.

8.) 18 Aug 2020 20:41:38
Maybe Lazio will show an interest in Grujic again.

9.) 18 Aug 2020 20:54:34
Wilson, ojo and Woodburn need to move on for the sake of their careers, none of them will get a minute for us next season.

10.) 18 Aug 2020 22:06:14
Perhaps all spare funds generated through sales will be used on TA and a CB . Personally i'd like to see Adrian replaced due to his buffoonery vs AM. The young turkish keeper looks like he could develop into a world beater.

11.) 18 Aug 2020 23:28:56
I'm with spaceman on the attacking front. Shaq out and barely played so wouldn't really need replacing. If Origi was to go as well then I do think we could do with one better winger for backup/ rotation.

I wouldn't expect someone like Dembele from Barcelona to come for the amount of games/ minutes (someone else asked about him yesterday) . Sarr and Traore are both overrated and more expensive than they are worth, neither will be happening but really think a few of our fans seem to think they are rubbish and that's harsh.

We won't be able to get someone top top level for rotation/ backup. Maybe someone like Allain Saint Maximum from Newcastle if Mike Ashley wanted to cash out. Money wise as we are struggling (I know I will get slated for this) but we could do a lot worse than Ryan Fraser as an option from the bench and for rotation. Not great last season but still great ability, mentality I don't know though as he didn't or wouldn't play when Bournemouth needed his 2018/ 19 form to save them from relegation.

12.) 19 Aug 2020 02:32:32
Divock Origi isn't "too inconsistent" the mans goals per 90 are 19th out of 420 premier league player and he's our 5th choice in attack. If we can do better that is shocking. He also is distinctly unique in style from everyone else in the attacking repitoire. also happens to be the most ice cold poise killer on the planet in big games.

13.) 19 Aug 2020 06:50:47
Redscare, i'm with you mate. I am sure we could get a better 4th choice forward, but it'll cost £50m. Origi is under rated. If he chooses to leave then it's a different argument but i'd still look to hand Brewster and Jones more minutes.

14.) 19 Aug 2020 08:58:16
Harveys Man Bun-Im not saying that we are thin on the ground, only that there is likely a more suitable, cheap 'project' out there who could fit the tactics and offer a stronger rotation option that Div or Shaq. We need someone who can fill in for both Mane and Mo, especially considering the season is compacted and we will probably take the cups more seriously this season.
This is what edwards does so well, isn't it? locate talented and robust players who have slipped under the radar. Beyond that Div+ Shaq need to go somewhere they can play regularly due to age.

15.) 19 Aug 2020 09:40:09
Spaceman, if we could get a player like Rashica, Jota or Thuram then i'd agree. I'm not saying Origi is world class, but i don't think we realistically have the funds to make luxury signings this summer.

Plus the players we seem to be mainly linked with are Barnes, Cantwell, Brooks and Sarr.

Honestly i'm not sure any of them are better than Ox or Origi right now. I really think Minamino and Brewster will come good too.

16.) 19 Aug 2020 10:39:08
Harveys Man Bun Sarr is better than Origi and is a natural wide player where Origi plays. Origi should go where he will play more and and upfront where he is best suited to play. He has got legend status at Liverpool all ready but that should not keep him in the squad if he is not Good enough.

17.) 19 Aug 2020 11:12:36
Harveys Man Bun-based on your stats re Origi, surely he is with 25/ 30m, added to which Wilson and Grujic will be sold. If we can get Shaq out of the door then we have enough for one of those that you mentioned. I would love to see a young hungry talent come in and challenge Mo and Mane.

18.) 19 Aug 2020 14:32:13
I can't agree that Sarr is better than Origi. He's another Zaha. 1 or 2 good games a season. He is so erratic on the ball. Legs all over the shop and the ball rarely ever truly under control. I'd take Origi every day and twice on a day we're playing Everton!

19.) 21 Aug 2020 06:30:20
Minamino and Brewster both offer more going forward than origi and shaq who won't see their game change or improve to give us more. We were lucky to have our main 3 not missing out for periods where we required Origi or anyone to play a lot of big games. Look at the United game where we were dreadful and dropped our first points, or Watford disaster first loss, Everton bore draw. When we don't start with our front 3 we simply don't play well and just because we have been lucky to rarely be without them this year we can't be fooled into thinking Origi or shaqiri offered any sort of quality that fill in for periods of regular games that won't cost us. Whoever said origi had impressive goals to minute results last year are blind to reality. He got 1 from the start opening game of season, got 2 vs everton in a walk in park and a meaningless goal against someone else when we were a few goals up already. He only scored in I think 3 league fixtures, all results where we notched 4 or 5 against pitiful defences. What about every other game when he offered nothing for us? At times when we needed a player to fill in the boots of a front 3. Not score the 4th goal against Norwich and 3rd or 4th against Southampton or whatever team that was. We need a forward player to give us more quality when playing at a minimum the amount of minutes origi has and spent too often being poor.

{Ed001's Note - who started the thrashing we gave Everton?}



05 Aug 2020 06:21:37
Rumours of Lewis from Norwich. Thoughts all?

Personally I don't think he is good enough to push Robertson, but for a low fee as a back up i guess he is home grown and will give us more balance on that side when Robbo misses games.

I just really hope Klopp can squeeze more out of him. His performances last season were lacklustre but i guess he's still just a kid. Klopp has earned the right to sign Paul Konchesky and still have my backing!

Harveys Man Bun

1.) 05 Aug 2020 06:58:44
Everyone questioned the signing of robbo and look how that turned out. The majority wanted Mendy over him.

If the club have identified him as a good option then I trust their opinion.

Plus if Larouci is an option for Norwich then knowing Edwards it’ll be a straight swap!

2.) 05 Aug 2020 07:20:37
I really like him actually, athletic versatile and fits the HG quota I think? I no he represents NI but he’s been at Norwich for a while so I think he counts.

{Ed002's Note - Being Home Grown is nothing to do with which country a player represents.}

3.) 05 Aug 2020 07:30:12
If him and the Algerian CB do join, perhaps Neco can have a season long loan in the championship.

4.) 05 Aug 2020 07:50:22
Did anyone think gini or even robbo were going to be good enough when klopp wanted them? Trust the manager his track record with sigmings is pretty good, other than Karius and Shaqiri he's signed players that have all. improved under his management.

5.) 05 Aug 2020 07:55:59
I think he would be a good signing all things considering. He is probably better than the likes of Larouci at the moment with a lot more experience. Can play in a couple of positions and is young enough to improve and become a long term first team player.

6.) 05 Aug 2020 08:40:25
Strange one this for me if there is any truth. Problem with us signing any player as Ed keeps telling us is who will want to come to get minimal game time. Robbo doesn’t miss many games but he been playing every week for Norwich. Also why not give Larouci more game time instead of shipping him out.

Then there is the question mark is he good enough to step up to the bigger stage?

{Ed002's Note - Yasser Larouci (LWB) Reims look to now be losing Hassane Kamara and they are starting to look for options and that includes Larouci. Brentford are expecting to lose Benrahma and want a left-sided player capable of covering the LWB and LW positions - and Larouci is a LW who has been converted to LB - and their interest is no secret. As many youngsters are doing, Larouci wants opportunities in the first team and Liverpool cannot offer that, and given a little something else going on, he may well look to options but I don't think he has asked to leave.

If Liverpool do make an offer to his club then Lewis will have to think very seriously about a move which for all intents and purposes will stall his future career as he will be simply be providing cover for PL and CL games and getting opportunities in the FA Cup.}

7.) 05 Aug 2020 08:57:19
If he's really only going to cost £10-13m then I think it'd be a decent signing. He's young, homegrown and can cover both the LB and LW positions. Room for improvement, yes, but when Robertson joined us he wasn't a world beater either, and now look at him.

8.) 05 Aug 2020 09:03:21
I like him HMB, He is so quick and skilful and is perfect for the way we play. Robbo needs competition.

9.) 05 Aug 2020 09:11:00
It might not happen yet as he apparently wants some assurances over game time.
If it goes through then it's a good deal for me.
We'd have to pay way over the odds for a player already at Robertson's level, so this transfer would be very clever.

10.) 05 Aug 2020 09:42:03
Shaqiri has done nothing wrong at Liverpool other than being injured, some people!

11.) 05 Aug 2020 09:59:42
I mean i personally championed the signing of Robertson. But i don't remember anybody wanting Wijnaldum including myself, and people even criticised the Salah signing after his perceived failure at Chelsea. Klopp does have a habit of pulling a rabbit out the hat so i will not moan too much about anybody he wants at the club. I do have my doubts over Lewis but i am not the guy who just ended a 30 year wait for the title! Interesting reading everyone's opinions though. Lots of interesting views. Cheers lads.

12.) 05 Aug 2020 10:16:02
Robbo is streets ahead of lewis socant understand why he would want to come to Liverpool to sit on the bench, he would be better off going somewhere like leeds.

13.) 05 Aug 2020 10:31:48
Acered, he may see it as a chance to challenge himself to see if he can go to the next level as a player at a big club under the guidance of one of the best two managers in club football. The lad (to my mind) looks a decent prospect, be a good result if we could bring him in as it would take the workload off of Robbo.

14.) 05 Aug 2020 11:19:09
Next year the season is even more condensed. Throw in CL, FA Cup and league cup games then there could very well opportunities for Lewis to get games when we are resting Robbo. He would need to be happy knowing he’s backup to Robbo.

15.) 05 Aug 2020 11:23:20
Fair comment 6Times i was just looking at where he would get game time now.

16.) 05 Aug 2020 12:15:25
Im guessing the Lovren money is paying for Lewis if we get him?

{Ed002's Note - It doesn't really work like that.}

17.) 05 Aug 2020 13:35:27
putting aside whether he is 'good enough' or the liklihood that he is coming - I don't see this as a good move for him and I don't see Norwich selling him for 10mil lol

IF he wanted to come and be an understudy, then it is just the fee. take it at 10mil, but to me that is an unrealistic figure.

18.) 05 Aug 2020 13:54:30
If you have the attitude where you are happy to be back up we should look elsewhere.
We want players that are there to take a place in the first team through graft and their determination.
Competition breeds success in my opinion otherwise complacency creeps in.

19.) 05 Aug 2020 19:24:00
I can't believe the defeatism of some people. Maybe he thinks that if he works hard enough, he could become better than Robbo? If he's that ambitious, then I say he's worth pursuing.

Why is everyone saying that he'd consider moving to be a backup? If he's got anything about him, he's got to believe that he can become the best in his position. And so far, at his age, and what he's already shown, maybe he can be?

20.) 05 Aug 2020 20:47:05
Epic, he is only 22 yrs old, and already an International player, he could be joining the League Champions, and next season I think that he would get plenty of game time, so yes I agree, if he has the right mind set, it would be a win win .

21.) 05 Aug 2020 20:48:35
also heard that Jamel has returned home early from his holiday, to see what develops, something is going on .




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18 Sep 2020 18:03:38
On Ki-Jana Hoever maybe going to Wolves.

First all i hope he does well. With Doherty gone he'll get to play his preferred position of right back. He's always insisted he is not a centre back and we saw in the cup last year that he can grab goals at the back post if given attacking freedom. He is behind Trent and Williams in our squad so it makes sense for all parties really.

On Thiago signing for Liverpool.

I think I said enough over the last few months, but wow. This is some signing. He'll takes us up levels! I'm just in a state of Euphoria.

On Diogo Jota possibly signing for Liverpool.

This would be a brilliant signing. Unlike Sarr and Traore he isn't just a speed merchant. Unlike Barnes he doesn't just run with his head down. Unlike Rashica he is proven in this league. If Edwards pulls this off for £35m (seriously?! ) then he's a genius. Who is making up proces where Jota worth less than Burnley want for Tarkowski?

This is Edwards' world. We're just living in it.

Harveys Man Bun

1.) 18 Sep 2020 18:28:03
You’re not wrong HMB.

2.) 18 Sep 2020 18:34:32
I agree Harvey, Jota is a very good player an he has a lot of room to grow.

I was satisfied with the squad as it was a few weeks ago.

To add Thiago an Jota I'm pretty gassed not going to lie 😁.

3.) 18 Sep 2020 18:49:30
I'm fairly sure I read on here a while back that Klopp wasn't too impressed with Hoever because he was acting like he had already made it after his debut against Wolves. I can only assume that he hasn't kicked on since his debut as we have hardly seen him since and he has been surpassed by the likes of Williams and Van Den Berg.

4.) 18 Sep 2020 19:05:39
Haha, superb post!

I am ecstatic with the Thiago signing, offers a genuinely different dimension to our midfield. I honest don't believe it will take a change to our style to make it work, more Thiago needing a chance to adapt.

The Jota one come out of nowhere for me, but I'll take it. Always liked him, and is most definitely an upgrade on Origi.

This window has had a lot of people moaning, but the squad has been made singificantly stronger imo. We now have 6 great options in CM and great depth on both flanks. CB is a little risky, but I think having Fabinho and Koumetio/ VDB would work, and if we are (just a little) lucky with injuries it won't become a huge issue. My only worry is that Matip has picked up a fair few injuries in the previous 3 seasons, so it could be. Perhaps we're holding out for a harder to attain target next season, maybe Carlos?

5.) 18 Sep 2020 19:13:48
No need to raise any criticism of the kid, TB. Just be happy with signing him for ninety grand and selling him for ten MILLION and wish him well. :)



14 Sep 2020 10:14:57
There is much debate about why Klopp wants Thiago and how he fits in.

Did anybody else notice on Saturday though, that Klopp had a fully fit Fabinho who has no contract issues and has been training all pre-season with no international breaks (He was in every predicted line-up i saw anywhere) . Yet Klopp opted for Henderson and Wijnaldum.

Gini was away with the Netherlands all week and had a perceived contract issues, and Henderson who hadn't played a single minute in any friendly or international so either starting ahead of Fabinho was a surprise let alone both.

Klopp had words with Fabinho a few times in pre-season as well. So what if he wants Thiago to play where Fabinho plays? I'd be amazed personally as i think Fabinho is gravy, but has this thought crossed anybody elses mind?

Harveys Man Bun

1.) 14 Sep 2020 10:26:06
So you mean after splashing £55 mill on Fabinho Klopp realizes he now needs someone who can pass a football from the deeper role. They are different players. Can they play together, Yes if and when you change the system to suit Mr. Thiago.
Fabinho was very poor of late and why he was dropped.

2.) 14 Sep 2020 10:25:38
I think Fab actually had a bit of a crap pre-season, he didn't play particularly well so was probably dropped for players who performed better.
Or just tactical.

Fab is one of the best DMs around so I doubt we're desperate for a replacement. I imagine Thiago would be to supplement rather than replace.

3.) 14 Sep 2020 10:35:51
Perhaps Fabinho had some headache in the morning coz stayed quite late at night because the kids couldn't go to sleep, and playing and stuffs, so Klopp decided maybe someone else is better to start than him coz he was clearly slightly tired and sleepy? Or perhaps it was purely tactical as Klopp felt Keita's fluidity might work more? There are too many possibilities, you can be really creative on this actually.

4.) 14 Sep 2020 10:38:31
Fabhino has been off the boil a while now it’s ok we can drop him as we’ve players too cover! Pitty we can’t do that with our front 3 or back 5 when they are off the boil!

5.) 14 Sep 2020 10:38:53
Thing is Tyrion, i think Fabinho can pass. He isn't as good as Thiago on the ball sure, but he's probably the slightly better tackler and far superior in the air. Thiago is arguably more mobile though.

I'm just a bit worried for Fabinho is all. From the outside looking in (and i might be reading way too much in to Fabinho just having a bad spell) it looks like Klopp maybe doesn't see him as an automatic starter going forward.

Fabinho was one of my favourite players even when he was at Monaco but Gini, Keita and Hendo all starting ahead of him on the opening day was strange. Maybe Klopp just thought we'd need more mobile players in to cope with Leeds' movement but Klopp absolutely ribbed Fabinho in the Blackpool friendly and hooked him at half time shortly after. He certainly doesn't seem 100% happy with him at this moment in time.

6.) 14 Sep 2020 11:05:57
If Thiago came in then the midfield 3 would look pretty much the same as it is now. Fabinho as the defensive player and Hendo and Thiago ahead of him.

7.) 14 Sep 2020 11:09:33
Horses for courses I think, a fab wiji hendo is a very workmanlike midfield that is ideal for the big sides however when playing teams that you may expect to sit back keita can offer a bit more of an attacking threat. The problem with playing Keita means you open us up in midfield and the defense can suffer.

8.) 14 Sep 2020 11:24:37
HMB, He may be having a difficult preseason so Klopp opted for other options. Where in here are you deducing all the stuff you just posted, man?

Also, where did you see or read that Klopp ribbed Fab vs Blackpool? I have not read anything of that nature anywhere? Fab may be off the boil cos he may still be having after effects of his injury or just having a difficult preseason which happens to players all the time.

Thankfully, Fab came on vs Leeds and stepped up big time and won the ball high up the pitch to keep the pressure on Leeds and it was his forward play that got him fouled for the winning goal via penalty. It is the beginning of the season after wa complicated preseason so you are going to have to be patient with all the players, Thiago or not.

9.) 14 Sep 2020 11:28:20
Yeah i don't think for one second Fabinho is in danger of being sold. Klopp has basically said he is the 4th choice centre back in emergencies. I just was really shocked that he was dropped despite all the preparations leading into the game favouring him.

10.) 14 Sep 2020 11:32:22

I get your point. Fabinho lacks pace which is what you call mobility today. Your Busquets while Thiago is your Xavi. They are different in the way they are but there is only one space for either of the two in our system. If he comes in then we will play with a 2 men midfield.
Thiago simply cannot play LCM. if that is your intention then we are buying a wrong player.

11.) 14 Sep 2020 12:01:49
Klopp set us up to play without a holding midfielder, we struggled without one because hendo didn't seem quite fit and Keita refuses to track back. Nothing more to it than that, fabinho will start against Chelsea next week for sure.

12.) 14 Sep 2020 12:21:37
I think you're reading far too much into it HMB. The midfield are a big group and they will all get a run. We'll have a better indication after a dozen or so games. But what we do know is that Fabinho has been a key player over the last 2 seasons.

13.) 14 Sep 2020 14:04:53
Red Meister, i watched the game on the LFCtv app mate. Just before half time Klopp went mad at Fabinho and the subbed him off. I've not actually read about it anywhere to be honest as i think most missed it or just thought nothing of it.

I like Fabinho. This isn't me advocating him being dropped or replaced. I just thought it was very strange Klopp didn't start with him on Saturday. His absence might have worked in his favour though as we were porous without him.

14.) 14 Sep 2020 22:04:25
Klopp yells at everyone lol.

15.) 14 Sep 2020 22:05:51
HMB I'd advocate for Fabinho starting every game as he is the best in the squad at what he does. But for this game my guess is Klopp wanted a more dynamic box to box midfield in all positions to combat Leeds energy, maybe? But either way, I doubt it's to do with an issue of form or a mistake.



13 Sep 2020 14:16:21
Okay so obviously back in the early 90's Man United had a wealth of young British talent all show up at once. Gary Neville, Paul Scholes, David Beckham and Ryan Giggs are the 4 standouts. 3 English men and 1 Welsh man. A right back, a goal scoring centre mid, a set piece specialist and a left footed winger.

Now just here me out right. But if you first forward 30 years to today there is a similar story developing at Liverpool. Neco Williams, Curtis Jones, Alexander-Arnold and Harvey Elliott are the 4 standouts. 3 English men and 1 Welsh man. A right back, a goal scoring centre mid, a set piece specialist and a left footed winger.

I'm not saying anything more. Just putting it out there 👀.

Harveys Man Bun

1.) 13 Sep 2020 14:22:06
HMB of the 4 you named only Trent is an established first team player at this moment. As much as we dislike Utd you can’t really compare these youngsters to the Utd 4 just yet.

2.) 13 Sep 2020 14:46:58
Cant compare but from Gomez at 23,Trent (21)Rhian (20)Curtis (19)and Harvey (17)we have 5 of the very best young English footballers. Throw in Neco, Koumetio, the Dutch pair and Glatzel and it's looking good.

3.) 13 Sep 2020 23:36:36
Was very tongue in cheek lads 🤣 i was clutching with the set piece specialist comment especially. If Trent scores half as many free kicks as Beckham he's done well!



13 Sep 2020 09:09:04
I hope all the people who pretend Mane and Firmino are better than Salah (basically because his agent spoke with Real Madrid) now give it up. He scores and creates more than either of them. With Messi and Ronaldo now operating at human levels, Salah is second to nobody in world football.

The people who genuinely think Mane is better fail to understand that he usually has much more space due to the opposition shifting across to put 3 men on Salah. Yesterday showed what happens when you try and mark Salah man to man. There is not a defender on the planet who can stop him 1 on 1 when he's at his best.

He is probably one of the quickest and strongest players on the ball i've ever seen (aside from videos of John Barnes) . Lots of players are strong when making the challenge or fast without the ball, but people bounce off Salah trying to stop him. I lost count of how many Leeds players ended up on the floor in his wake or just chasing shadows. By the time Leeds did put 3 men on Salah, it was too late as his confidence was so high he just rolled all of them effortlessly.

If there is one positive to take from yesterday, i hope it is that Salah has had a huge shot in the arm of pure confidence. He plays like this all year like he did in 2017/ 18 and he might just go that extra few and hit 50 goals this time as Milner took the penalties that season.

Harveys Man Bun

{Ed025's Note - bit of a salah fan then im guessing HMB?.. :)

1.) 13 Sep 2020 09:40:34
This post is nonsense I’m sorry but just pure nonsense
3 men on salah what is that including the ref and linesmen as well?
We get your a salah fan but don’t talk rubbish about mane and firminho to support your nonsense
I’m not having that at all.

2.) 13 Sep 2020 09:43:55
To be honest HMB I see no value in denigrating one because of the other. I’m appreciative that we’ve two of the best forwards playing in European football playing for us. I do think Salah is underrated by a lot of pundits and supporters (a lot because some people still have their minds set on that short period at Chelsea, which he should never be judged on) . I would comment though I believe that a lot of the negative rubbish comes from people’s own unconscious bias against footballers from Africa, guarantee that if he was Brazilian or Argentinian those same critics wouldn’t make those remarks.

3.) 13 Sep 2020 09:54:44
Each of our front 3 players are unique in their own right. Its embarrassing to see LFC fans pitting them against each other.

4.) 13 Sep 2020 10:04:40
Absolutely Ed025. I love Mane and Bobby, but for the last 12-18 months Salah has been constantly bagged on here just because his agent talked with Madrid. Aside from the Salah stick though, people would say stuff like Bobby being more important to our team, or Mane being a better individual. I just don't buy it i'm afraid. A forwards goal is to score or create goals and whilst all 3 of our frontline do it to an elite level, Salah is consistently our highest scorer and the only players in the team who get near his creativity levels are Trent and Robbo. Salah is just different class. When he went went off injured in the Champions League Final you saw just how much Mane and Bobby benefit from the space his mere presence creates.

Mane and Firmino are awesome John. You'll have to point out where i said otherwise. Seriously pick out one line where i said either of them were bad players? Though i could search this site and find hundreds of comments saying Salah is over rated, or wasteful, or greedy, or arrogant, or ungrateful etc.

I'm just stating my opinion. Salah is and always has been the best of the 3 and he backs that up with goals and assists every single season without fail. He will do so again this season. He joined Liverpool 2 seasons after Bobby and 1 after Mane, and he has totally eclipsed them in the departments that matter, whilst still working just as hard for the team. He creates more chances and scores more goals than either of them, and he does it whilst being targeted by every team we play. That doesn't make Mane or Bobby bad players. Salah is up their with Messi, Lewandowski and Ronaldo though. Mane and Firmino for me are in the next bracket with Sterling, Neymar, Mbappe and Aguero.

We are lucky to have all of them but Bobby and Mane get the respect they deserve. Salah is constantly a scapegoat and you know that is true because you have been posting on here for many years. Opposition fans hate him because of his diving in his first season so they will always drag him down but our own fans have been doing it too and it is tiresome. He's the star player in our team and some people might only realise how good he is when he leaves.

5.) 13 Sep 2020 10:20:20
The response simply highlights my point. If someone posts on here saying Mane or Bobby are better nobody bats an eyelid. I'm not denigrating Mane or Bobby. I'm just the only person on this site in years to defend Salah.

In 3 seasons Salah averaged 31 goals and 13 assists. In 4 seasons Mane averaged 20 goals and 8 assists. In 5 seasons Bobby averaged 15 goals and 12 assists. So yeah, i am pitting them against each other (just like everyone has been doing ever since it came out that Salah's agent talked with Madrid) because for too long i've been biting my tongue whilst Liverpool "supporters" have been bagging Salah constantly and hiding it behind a thinly veiled curtain of love for the other 2 forwards.

I genuinely love all 3 of our forwards but i know from reading this site daily that many people have an anti-Salah agenda. I'd guess the people going straight on the defensive are those who have indulged in the Salah abuse and now they're trying to flip it back on me when i've not said anything negative about any of the 3.

6.) 13 Sep 2020 10:27:30
Salah and Mane are absolutely world class. Every club and fan in world football would love them to be a part of their club. For me Bobby needs to add more goals. Yes I totally appreciate what he brings to the team and I am not debating that. Bobby actually had more shots than Mané last season in the league and was in the top 10 of all players for shots in the league so I’m not buying the he’s not a natural striker line as regardless of him creating space he’s still not finishing his chances. Yesterday he had the ideal opportunity to get his tally off the mark in the 3rd minute when he was through on goal but chose to do a no look cut back which was the more difficult option. He even caught his own teammates by surprise. He had 2 half chances in the 2nd half as well when we outnumbered the Leeds player on the edge of their box and he failed to even get a shot off. I’m a big fan of Bobby but he is definitely untouchable when it comes to any form of criticism. I’d like nothing more than for him to get plenty of goals this season.

7.) 13 Sep 2020 10:47:04
I agree with you that Bobby needs to take his chances as his finishing hasn't been good enough the last year, even though the rest of his game has been world class. I think he will het back to his best soon. He just needs to be backed. Some people calling for him to be replaced should think about what they are saying.

Yesterday even though he was struggled to be involved in the play, he was busting a gut to close down the opposition and force them into mistakes. Even on his bad days he gives his all. Think it was Shankly had a quote "sure he misses a few, but he gets in the right place to miss them". That is Bobby right now, but when it clicks back into place for him, we'll see the goalscorer we know he can be. He scored 27 goals in the 17/ 18 season so he can finish for sure.

8.) 13 Sep 2020 10:47:37
Only person on this site in years to defend Salah. Bold claim that one mate lol.

9.) 13 Sep 2020 10:47:38
The marking on Salah seemed awful yesterday, he’s used to having 2 or 3 players on him at all times but he only seemed to have one player yesterday so that’s probably part of the reason he had such a good game.

10.) 13 Sep 2020 11:14:12
Well, slight exaggeration, JK23, to drive home my point 🤣 You've been on here a long time though. You will have seen what i have seen in terms of Salah taking pelters. It's wound me up for ages and after the reaction to my post i just thought i'd take the opportunity to blow off the steam!

Mikey1985, that's exactly what i mean mate. For a good 70 minutes yesterday, Leeds tried to mark him 1 on 1. Bobby and Mane had a lot less space than normal (but were still very unlucky not to both score in my opinion) because Bielsa either disrespected Salah or massively over estimated the ability of Dallas to cope with him. He was unlucky not to score more. On another day Salah comes away with 4 or 5 and Mane and Bobby have at least 1 each. Sharpness just wasn't quite there in front of goal but i'm sure it will be next Sunday. I'm buzzing for this season. I don't get the negativity.

11.) 13 Sep 2020 11:26:48
Ah we have fooled you. See we do this so opposition fans and mangers think salah is crap and don't man mark him and or bid for him.
But now with this appreciation post you have spilt tha beans HMB.
It worked yesterday and we had fooled the greatest manager in recent times.
But now with this post top news is that barcelona are looking at salah. You should know this site is watched by the elites of football for analysis and decisions. Please don't blow our cover.
Lets agree and keep the following sentiments-
Mane and bobby are bad players and salah is absolutely the worst how dare his agent shop him out at madrid.

12.) 13 Sep 2020 11:39:54
HMB I know mate I was giving you a little ribbing back 😂. I know what you mean though and I have seen it. I think Salah’s biggest problem was his first season. He set his own standards so high I think fans just get frustrated and shoot from the hip because it’s almost impossible for him to maintain those standards. Personally I wouldn’t replace Mo or Sadio with anyone currently in world football. These pair deserve their names in LFC folklore. When they do eventually move on for whatever reason it will be a very sad day in LFC fans lives.

13.) 13 Sep 2020 12:09:01
To be honest JK the only players in our team i'd even consider replacing are Wijnaldum and maybe Gomez. Every other player in our side is arguably one of the top 3 in the world for their position. But can you find a better centre back than Gomez at 23 years old? Probably not. Can you find a player fitter than Gini who never gets injured? Probably not.

We've got some side. I just thought Salah deserved some love too. It's become taboo for him to be your favourite player on this site. If my post was about Mane or Firmino the reaction would have been totally different for sure.

14.) 13 Sep 2020 12:40:33
HMB put it this way if I caught mo in bed with my wife I would offer him breakfast in bed and then tuck him in 😂. The man can do no wrong in my eyes. Along with Sadio.



05 Sep 2020 17:00:48
Watching the game today, Fabinho was well off the pace. Jones replaced him at half time and stole the show. He is going to be some player. Great to see goals from Minamino, Elliott, Mane, Firmino and Origi. Confidence for near enough the whole frontline going into the season. Salah had a bit of a mare mind you but hopefully that'll shake off all the rust!

Side note, anybody know if Elliott with his first senior goal will cut off his man bun now? Sure there was an interview where he mentioned that being his plan. Naturally i am concerned for my own wellbeing.

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1.) 05 Sep 2020 17:25:57
Can’t argue with your assessment at all. Jones just looks so composed and happy to integrate him into the squad and team this coming season. I would still like Thiago to come as he is world class but as long as there is a clear plan for Jones and it doesn’t hamper his progression, not to say it would.

Name change if he does cut it off?

2.) 05 Sep 2020 17:29:16
Doubt that counts as his first senior goal mate.

3.) 05 Sep 2020 17:33:18
Maybe change to Thiago's skin head? 😜.

4.) 05 Sep 2020 18:02:15
cut off the hair!

5.) 05 Sep 2020 23:19:03
did you make a dannymurphy account just to post that? 😂😂.




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21 Sep 2020 13:25:55
As they say Ed025, the first 5 yards are in your head.

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21 Sep 2020 10:49:20
I agree Ed025. Gomez is a very good young centre back but Fabinho is just better in every defensive department except recovery pace. He even holds the offside trap better.

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{Ed025's Note - he has something better than speed HMB, he has speed of thought, reads the game very well which although hes young gomez fails on imo, just my opinion though mate..



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18 Sep 2020 22:16:52
Sorry lads. I got a bit excited and didn't know what i was typing!

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18 Sep 2020 17:32:06
How can we lived in a world were Jota with 16 goals is worth half of Traore with 6 or Sarr with 6 🤣

What i signing! I said on here about a month ago Jota would be perfect. I cannot believe this. Thiago and Jota? It's scraping against my zipper.

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17 Sep 2020 11:29:40
6times, i am absolutely buzzing! Finally!

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28 Sep 2020 13:59:26
Alisson and Thiago might play yet. The only player definitely out is Henderson. Hopefully the Arsenal players have the same over confidence. Adrian played a third of the 38 games at the start of last season and we won every single match in that period. Fabinho, Gini and Jones/ Keita is still leagues ahead of Xhaka, Elneny and Ceballos.

They beat is in a dead rubber and a friendly. They probably need to wind their necks in a bit if they think they are favourites at Anfield. They could well win but there is never a good time to play this Liverpool team. Barcelona thought they had us on the ropes when we had to play Shaqiri and Origi and we still battered them 4-0.

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23 Sep 2020 16:08:34
Cheers Ed. I personally think that next summer Messi will walk on a free transfer, and Mane will be his replacement.

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{Ed001's Note - it is certainly a possibility if Barca have the funds.}



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23 Sep 2020 15:43:15
Ed001 do you mean we'll only have both together for 2 years? Or do you think both will move on in the next 2 years?

Would explain the reported Sarr interested.

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{Ed001's Note - the former.}



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23 Sep 2020 14:17:58
Williams, Gomez, Virgil, Tsimikas
Milner, Jones
Elliott, Minamino, Jota

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21 Sep 2020 16:03:49
To be fair, Christenson's "tackle" wasn't even a fair challenge in Rugby. He literally got Mane round the neck with both arms. Clear red card. It's almost embarrassing that Tierney needed the pitchside monitor.

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