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21 Aug 2018 09:02:10
Thought Gomez was great last night, took instructions well from Van Dijk and believe there's a real partnership that can be formed here. Robertson was great again, Milner is coming on leaps and bounds, Henderson was neat and tidy and Bobby was just Bobby tireless and completely none stop. Wasnt our best performance but that was a game we'd have dropped points last season.


1.) 21 Aug 2018 09:31:09
Gomez I agree was decent. Robertson was quite poor and Bobby looks very rusty he didn't have a good game. Very little impact and his one shot was slashed 30 yards wide. I don't understand why he gets constant praise even when he has an average game. I am sure he will improve when he is fully upto speed but he should have been subbed earlier.

Salah was also not at his best but he constantly effects the game, he still does the tracking back but he is effective both ways.


2.) 21 Aug 2018 09:31:53
I actually though that Robertson (and Trent) were pretty poor last night - nothing special in defense (although neither were put under much pressure) but going forward they were rushing, not looking up and wasteful of several good chances. Would much rather it happens in a game like yesterday than against someone who will punish that but certainly not the follow up I was hoping for from the West Ham game.


3.) 21 Aug 2018 09:56:42
Firmino never looked like he was going to score last night but the work he got through was unreal. He was everywhere linking the play, making tackles, pressuring the ball. I thought he played well.


4.) 21 Aug 2018 10:32:38
Follow up to the West Ham game? Like 3 points away from home at a tough palace ground on a Monday night, where other teams around us will drop points. I'm delighted with a win there while some of our top lads weren't at it. Sign of title challengers which is what I'll be taking away from that game.


5.) 21 Aug 2018 11:15:30
We had a couple of players last night who looked tired and Bobby just lacked his normal sharpness, still think he is a top player who might need a rest.

Crystal Palace have the makings of a good team there and played well which knocked us back as if we didn't expect them to rise to the challenge.

Players like Schlupp, Zaha, Townsend, Milhojovich (spelling) and van arnholtt are all players who on their day are good enough for any top four club and they definitely raised their game for us last night.

We managed a win where I think a lot of big teams could come undone, with the pace Palace can utilise in such a direct manor.

I feel it is a step forward for us as a team to win when maybe not all our players were firing on all cylinders.

Football aside, I wish forum salah all the best in his recovery and hope he is back posting soon. There are some cretins in this world but get your chin up and keep up your positivity which shows in your previous posts.


6.) 21 Aug 2018 12:19:07
Firmino has had plenty rest he just needs games.


7.) 21 Aug 2018 12:46:27
Last night want a game for our players to look good, office were organised at the back and dangerous on the counter. I'm pretty delighted how everyone performed.


 

 

23 Jul 2018 14:47:58
I'm with Ed002 here. Utterly appalled by a large section of our fan base abusing one of our own players. This isn't the family club i grew up loving anymore and with social media it amplifies the abuse further.

Ashamed.


1.) 23 Jul 2018 15:49:11
I have been a match-going Liverpool supporter for more than 50 years, in fact since the Shankly era. There was a very good documentary on BBC2 last night called “Shankly : Nature’s Fire” which majored on the great man’s principles and values. I simply do not accept that someone who proclaims his/ herself as a Liverpool supporter on social media while abusing a Liverpool player is a member of our wonderful club’s fan base. It takes much more than self-identification to be a true Red. Those who do not adhere, or at least aspire, to the Shankly principles and values are just worthless trolls (as I think the young people all them) .


2.) 23 Jul 2018 16:02:49
WW, post of the day, mate, in fact post of the summer.


3.) 23 Jul 2018 16:06:24
The abuse is disgusting and looking through other posts there are plenty of comments calling players absolute rubbish .
I also wonder why people expect both Karius and Migs to stay as no 2 or 3 . They both have their career ahead of them and I guess would like to progress rather than be a bench warmer .


4.) 23 Jul 2018 16:24:15
Sadly WW, that's not how things work any more. It takes more than saying it - the vast majority have to show them that they are wrong, and shun them if need be. Because they are fans, just like you or I. And us denying it doesn't change that - it's up to us to fight against the internal rot.


5.) 23 Jul 2018 17:21:03
hijkle, how about this then - I’ll continue to confront the abusers in the Lower Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand (and there are a few) and anywhere else I encounter them, and you fight the good fight with the social media dickheads.


6.) 23 Jul 2018 18:21:04
Exactly, WW. The time for talk is over. It is time to act with courage and conviction. I am not on SM a lot like twitter or Instagram BUT I will join the other fan sites to weed out the "fans" who are giving the rest of us a bad name. We, the people, those of us who claim to not condone this type, MUST not let this stand. We should be the ones policing ourselves as fans whether in the ground or on SM. The time to act is NOW, IMO.


7.) 23 Jul 2018 18:43:03
@everythingnow agree with most of what you say, but the reason I fully expect karius to stay and fight for number 2 is because at his current form and confidence level you won’t find another club prepared to pay him half what he’s earning at Liverpool! Even taking wage demands out of it I can’t see many being interested in him- would you take a keeper who’s in the worst form of his life and has his confidence shot to bits in the knowledge he will be ridiculed by fans everywhere? I certainly wouldn’t even if there is no doubting that under the right guidance there’s a decent goalkeeper in there.


 

 

20 Jul 2018 11:56:53
I'd like to ask a question, to Editor 1 or 2.

The departure of Pep Lijnders to NEC came as an unwanted surprise, his immediate return surprised me even more. Was there a particular reason he left NEC so pre-maturely? Did it not work out for him there or was the lure of a more prominent position at Liverpool impossible for him to turn down.

Many thanks.

{Ed002's Note - He was sacked by them.}


1.) 20 Jul 2018 17:37:15
I was in Nijmegen for quite a while. Generally the locals were pissed off by him. He came midseason with NEC already on top of Dutch second division by some distance from the second placed team and somehow they lost form and failed to achieve promotion.


 

 

20 Jul 2018 09:56:29
There's a saying in life

'if you can't bet them, join them'

Spending big money on big players is not an issue, as long as its done legally and under the FFP rules. Not sure why everybody has a massive stick up their butt about it.


1.) 20 Jul 2018 10:26:10
I guess some people just like sitting on sticks!


2.) 20 Jul 2018 10:38:06
This progression has been buildng since Klopp joined, we are finally able to afford top players because of the work Klopp has done. When he rook ovet the squad was nowhere near a chanpions league level. It's not even been 3 years and now look at us, could any other manager have done this?

{Ed002's Note - Nonsense. The money has come from the sale of the television rights. Or was Klopp reesponsible for that as well?}


3.) 20 Jul 2018 10:55:56
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{Ed002's Note - Time for a break for you if you are going to start taking digs at the Editors.}


4.) 20 Jul 2018 12:03:15
I may be wrong ed but I think he may have meant to say we are finally able to attract the top players because of the work that klopp has done over the last three years.

And if he didn't mean to say that, well then he should have 😁.


5.) 20 Jul 2018 12:18:32
Some of you guys seem to get carried away with such questions.
I do not always share ED02 opinion or witt but he very often gives us an education on the aspects of finaces and if you put the little snipits together you roughly understand that we are taking a financial gamble this season with the hope of having success next - and if success does not happen next season?
Then I am certain there will be less money to spend.

I don't think football clubs are profitable ventures unless you have super brand clubs like RM or Barca.


6.) 20 Jul 2018 12:18:55
I reckon conte would have won the league by now.


7.) 20 Jul 2018 11:13:22
@Ed002 - it’s klopps part time job at tesco funding it all 🤪.


8.) 20 Jul 2018 12:22:27
Oh come on. You constantly give it. I just made a light hearted comment that you need to make your mind up about where our funds are coming from.

I'm not having a dig and I apologise if I hurt your feelings, much love bretheren!


9.) 20 Jul 2018 13:27:43
Whilst I respect 99% comes from tv rights, Klopp taking us to back to back European finals, and higher league positions certainly helps ed. Surely you can appreciate that.

{Ed002's Note - Nobody denied that - it is not what was said. Everone is getting very wet about thios - we have removed one person already.}


10.) 20 Jul 2018 13:32:30
Ed 002 u act like a spoilt child banning people when the either correct u for being wrong or call u out when u slate out club or fans and out manager. Followed this site for ten years and u don't have much good to say about anything to do way Liverpool.

{Ed002's Note - I think you will find what I said was correct - I am sure you are no more than a simple half wit - to simply go an register another account really makes you look like a DF. What I don't need is brain dead trash taking a dig at me for telling the truth. All we do now is simply block their accounts and IP addresses to stop having to start having to shut pages down. I can now see there will be a lot of that happening today.}


11.) 20 Jul 2018 15:20:27
Ed002. I now see why you are wary of giving your input because you just end up being insulted. Unfortunately these trolls exist and with this digital age it is too easy to hide behind a screen and spit toxic comments.

Don't let a small minority ruin things for you, most true LFC fans are actually decent people and value the knowledge you and all of the ed's share.


12.) 20 Jul 2018 19:38:45
I wish the people who gives Ed2 hassle would calm it down a tone because it's people like you who bugger it up for the rest of us, leave it out, today should be a happy day not a day to see people getting removed from the site because they can't handle a bit of home truths.

Ed2, your input is always appreciated, no matter what it is. At least we get the truth from you and that I appreciate. Thanks for your hard work.


 

 

01 Dec 2017 09:41:43
For me Henderson is better in an advanced role but the issue is the players who play furtehr up are much better than him. Trying to accommodate Hendo in a role which doesn't suit him what so ever which is the deep lying role is a waste of time in my opinion. He isn't an orchestrator, he isn't a protector he contributes very little to the team and is certainly not a captain on the field. His attitude as a professional is wonderful but i don't see win the big trophies with Hendo as the core of our team.


1.) 01 Dec 2017 09:59:28
Hendo should sit on the bench and if the game is won should be bought on for seeing it through.


2.) 01 Dec 2017 10:03:30
I think he is better in a box to box role than anyone else in the league when fit and on form.

Problem is, his fitness has deserted him. Add that to the fact he is being asked to play a role he has failed to adapt to and it is a recipe for disaster.

Don't forget how good he was between 2013/ 14-2014/ 15 in a box to box role. He got about 10 goals and 25 assists across those two seasons. Without his high energy pressing, selfless runs, and link up play in the final third being utilised though, he has just looked average.


3.) 01 Dec 2017 10:29:33
Think the best role now for Hendo now would be as a utility squad player, hence taking over from Milner who will leave in the summer.
We will sign one of Goretzka or Meyer in the summer plus Keita coming in as well. That's two spots in midfield taken and one left for Lallana, Gini and Hendo to fill. Out of those 3, Gini and Lallana cover more ground and link up better with our forward players.


4.) 01 Dec 2017 10:32:02
is anyone else getting tired of the hendo-centric critique. can one player be the core of a team?


5.) 01 Dec 2017 11:02:19
Spot on mk. He was so important to us and I struggle to think he can't ever get back to that level again. Think a few weeks rest might be the thing for him to regain some form. Or perhaps ease some niggling injuries which could be affecting his game. Probably but until after Christmas period I'd imagine. I wonder is the weight of captaincy affecting him too? It's difficult to inspire when your form is out the window.


6.) 01 Dec 2017 12:05:45
I am, Faith. It is becoming ridiculous and boring. They say he passes sideways. When has passing sideways ever been a prob for the great Ajax and Barcelona teams under Cruyff, LVG and Pep? NEVER. Why? Cos that is how you keep possession when the forward pass is not on so as to not cause a turnover while forcing a forward pass and get caught out on the counter. But his detractors who IMO, just don't like him as a person cos they feel he should have never been capt. (their gripe is with BR and Klopp, not the poor boy mind you) are now making it sound like it is now the forbidden thing to do. Ridiculous!

Pep passed sideways uncountable times in his career. So did Xavi and now Busquets. Are they crap players too? But suddenly it is a HUGE prob when Hendo does it. The boy is playing an un-natural position and giving his all for the team even playing with injections BUT it is not good enough for his haters cos they seem to not be able to think that far. For a player not suited for the role, he was great last season till his injuries and that is affecting him and his leadership on the pitch, as AOE said.

Mk nailed it too. Hendo was awesome in 13/ 14 and should be playing that Hendo, would be great alongside Naby Keita in the double pivot Klopp likes to play. I don't know if that Hendo is still around BUT I hope he can regain that form as he was dynamite for us esp. in the big games. His detractors should change the record cos it is getting tedious.


7.) 01 Dec 2017 12:07:52
Whilst I agree, hendo certainly isn’t a master of any specific role in midfield he is still more important to the team than can, especially with can being so lacklustre recently. Last season can improved vastly then had his head turned for whatever reason and now wants to leave and he’s back to his old inconsistent best. I’ll be happy to get a decent fee for him and replace him with a top quality DM. Hendo will either play in the 3 alongside Keita and one of our other creative players in wijnaldum, Lallana or coutinho (or his replacement) . Either that or he’ll be a squad/ utility player and the 3 in midfield would be a dedicated DM, Keita and one of the creative players. Either way I think it’s important to keep hendo.

The criticism of him has been slightly unfair as he’s been asked to play a role he just isn’t that affective in. In my opinion that is Klopps fault for failing to recognise we needed better defensive reinforcement at the back and in midfield. Hendo is actually really good when it comes to the box to box role, that’s his natural game.


8.) 01 Dec 2017 12:20:03
That's the problem - some of you are picking out particular seasons when a player did well. Good players invariably play well all the time. That's the difference.


9.) 01 Dec 2017 12:31:31
That is a bit harsh Izzo. Henderson is still a very good player underneath his injury troubles. We constantly see glimpses of it.

You can't just ignore the fact that he is a good player because he's had 2 seasons of injury troubles. The problem is that like with Daniel Sturridge, there is only so long you can afford to wait for a player to get fit before you replace them. We waited for Sturridge for far too long before Rodgers finally decided to phase him out of the starting XI and that contributed to cost him his job in the end. Klopp is at risk of making the same mistake with Henderson.

Very good player though. It isn't about being selective, it is about being fair in your analysis. You might as well say that Agger was a bad player for being injured. However, you can't keep somebody who is always struggling with injury just because they are good when fully fit. I think if Hendo hasn't proven his fitness by the end of this season, we will see him replaced. No need to ignore his obvious abilities though or discredit his past achievements. Bad players don't get to be the captain of England and Liverpool.


10.) 01 Dec 2017 12:49:54
Best B2B midfielder in the league? What the actual hahaha.


11.) 01 Dec 2017 14:48:08
When fit and playing to his full ability i don't think there are many better at that particular role Samuel.

Arsenal only have Ramsey who is inconsistent, City only have Delph and Toure who can't get into their midfield, United only have the still improving Pogba doesn't get back well enough yet (hence why Matic was so desperately required) and Fellaini who is vastly over rated, Chelsea have Bakayoko and Drinkwater who are average at best, but to be fair Kante is better than Henderson in hindsight, and Spurs only have Sissoko who is absolutely atrocious etc. Our own Emre Can is similar to Pogba in that he gets forward very well but tracks back far to slowly, and Milner is just a headless chicken.

At the lesser sides i suppose you have a few decent players such as Hendrick (Burnley), Doucoure (Watford) McCarthy (Everton), Mooy (Huddersfield), Davis (Southampton) etc. I'm not convinced any are better than Hendo when he is fit and on form (though Doucoure could be potentially) .

Aside from Kante (who is definitely better despite me forgetting him in my last post) and potentially Doucoure and Pogba in the near future, a fit Henderson is better than any other box to box midfielder i can think of in the Premier League.

Why don't you try writing an intelligent response this time, Samuel? Football is an opinions game and I'm keen to hear who you think is better than a fit and in form Henderson, and why? The beauty of an opinion on a subjective topic is that you can't be wrong.


12.) 01 Dec 2017 17:15:13
I get it when some defend henderson. Super guy. But he is playing in that defensive midfiels role. And he is being critisized in that role. Most agree its not his best position to play so as ling as he plays there he will get stick for it. I think Moreno would be a better wing but het slayed as a left back. And fairly so when he is bad he is really bad.


13.) 02 Dec 2017 11:02:29
Great post, MK.


 

 

 

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05 Oct 2018 11:29:10
His joke about the spices is absolutely hilarious.

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05 Oct 2018 10:13:50
My favorite comedian McIntyre.

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11 Jul 2018 09:34:52
For me Mr Ed002, football is an entertainment business. I, for one am very entertained by watching Klopps Liverpool team play pro-active and high octane football. We haven't won anything as of yet, down to numerous reasons one being Klopp so im not questioning you on every angle but i can assure you as a fan of this club, speaking on behalf of most supporters we are fully behind him. There is a lot of abuse towards players, as you have noted and i fully agree that some of the fans that abuse our own players instead of getting behind them is atrocious. However, we back the manager and yet we are made to feel stupid for backing him by yourself, contradiction much?

Clearly you are an intelligent man but this would seem very personal toward Liverpool supporters apposed to being a fair critique. Just my opinion, hope you take it on the chin old chap.

{Ed002's Note - Nobody is questioning whether the fans are behind Klopp or not. If you feel stupid, that is because in such situations in the past the fans have turned on the coaches and not only the players - vandalising Anfield to get coaches out is one old trick. I think you will find I have done nothing but been entirely honest about Liverpool supporters so you whinong dig at me is no more than embarrassing for you in my eyes.}


 

 

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05 Jan 2018 11:35:44
I don't normally agree with Ed002 but will side with him/ her on this occasion.

Can and his agent have shown nothing but an exemplary attitude even though the player is looking for pastures new. Like any normal human in a normal job, sometimes its time for change and footballers are no different. You would never ever have thought he was looking for out, his mind and heart hasn't been elsewhere, no faking of injuries or spewing off to the media he has got his head down and concentrated on his work.

How we as fans have rewarded this is by slagging him off and condemning him to 'rot in the reserves' in a year where a world cup is taking place. Emre Can has given us good service and has given everything to the LFC cause since he arrived. Show a bit of class and humility, wish the guy all the best and bloody move on.


 

 

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04 Oct 2017 11:35:09
Imagine Nesta in todays market. Unthinkable money.


 

 

 

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10 Sep 2018 10:33:29
What ever happened to Blair Mayne?


 

 

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23 Aug 2018 14:09:16
Better be orange.

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17 Jul 2018 15:30:01
I don't own a television Zeddicus, I am very much feral but sometimes i hang out with the hipsters at Cotton Computers Internet Cafe.


 

 

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17 Jul 2018 14:52:11
Or live in the polluted, non-friendly and highly congested London, grab a bite at the Rabbit and Eagle where Harry the part time shoe polisher will serve you jellied eels and mash and a pint of room temperature Shedhead .


 

 

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01 Dec 2017 12:49:54
Best B2B midfielder in the league? What the actual hahaha.