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29 Aug 2017 17:37:03
Eds can u give a brief lesson how a transfer happens! Like do a club just notify the other. Club and say we will give u 5m for him etc how does it go?

Jay dub red

{Ed002's Note - The process should be along the lines of: Clubs will typically informally ask an agent (a) if the player is going to be available, and (b) would the player consider a move to the club. There may be some broad discussion on the sort of deal that would be offered but no more than that. If the answer is yes, it is then necessary for the club to approach the player's club to ask if they would be willing to sell and if they would grant permission to speak to a player's agent formally about a transfer and possibly even the player about actually making a move. This will typically involve either broadly (through an offer) or actually agreeing a fee and responsibility for any significant costs (agents fees etc.). Once this has happened the club will be able to speak to the player's agent and perhaps the player himself to look at the package that will be involved. Many players are looked at and discussed at a high-level with agents and clubs; a subset of those have an offer placed; a subset of those involve discussions with the player's club; a subset of those involve discussions over terms, and; a subset of those go ahead.

Agents will often try and get more specific details of wages and other financials before they should - but most clubs are happy to follow this process. Players will often talk to other players about moves but, whilst wrong, is tolerated as it would be impossible to manage.}

1.) 29 Aug 2017 21:19:46
Haha so the complete opposite of how we do things then Ed02.

2.) 29 Aug 2017 21:34:57
Was nothing like I thought it would go lol cheers Ed 👍🏼.

3.) 29 Aug 2017 22:16:16
Very interesting ed02. I was thinking, swaps are quite rare, is that because the agent doesn't get as much money as the deal is one of little money and swap of players?

I have no idea how it all works dude.

4.) 30 Aug 2017 02:11:20
Ed002. I know that's how transfers generally work and you've explained it brilliantly. the thing is (And this is not trying to defend anyone's actions or condem or have a go even ) . That's basically tapping up. hear me out.
A player is having a great season is happy and enjoying his football . The transfer window is approaching and let's say real Madrid approach said players agent to ask is he available to which the agent will reply I don't know but I'll find out and the club ask is he interested in the move. To which the agent will say I'll ask him and what player in the right mind would want to turn real down. so them actions are actually turning a players head. which is illegal . the first point of call is meant to be to the club's direct to see about availability then given or denied permission to contact said player. but in today's world where image is everything clubs can't afford to be getting knocked back by players hence why the contact the agent to see if he's up for moving .

When all's said and done that's part of a tapping up process in the sense turning a players head . don't get me wrong there is different levels of turning heads and tapping up but it's still wrong.

{Ed002's Note - No, that is simply business as usual.}

5.) 29 Aug 2017 21:36:55
Ed2. There's an interesting article on BBC sport regarding tapping up. Was wondering your take on it. And no, I'm not trying to justify, deflect, etc etc. Just found it interesting given this summers antics.

{Ed002's Note - I will have a read when I get the time.}



22 Jan 2014 19:26:42
Ken aguero and mo salad seen on a plane Liverpool bound easy jet my "source" tells me ba ;)

Jay dub red

1.) I'm guessing you mean Salah? And Aguero? Flying Easy Jet? IMHO all three are equally unlikely!

2.) They were on that Ryan Air flight the other day that was trashed and all the fags and booze nicked.

3.) I see now why your called the plank!
Sake it was a joke with sarcasam!

4.) 22 Jan 2014 20:47:13
Was it them that thrashed the Ryanair flight lol just what we need!

5.) Thanks for your sparkling insight Jay. I'm just so used to dimwits on here I take things at face value. Plank was awarded to me by a Brummie poster on here who told me I was as thick as plank because he thought I was thick for saying a transfer target of Liverpool would stay in a hotel. He told me transfers don't go through until the target buys or rents a house or flat. Pot calling kettle I thought and am proud of the name.

6.) Main course with your side salad sir?

How about some Mataballs?

How much would that Costa?


7.) 22 Jan 2014 21:59:08
That wil go well with salad stoneage ;)

8.) 22 Jan 2014 22:01:44
No worries plank just some friendly banter theirs too many posters going nuts over this salah lad that their turning nasty on the Ed's so I thought I'd throw salad and his mate ken in their lol!
YNWA mate!



22 Jan 2014 10:42:01
Is Ed02 about? With these so called rumours about mata allowed leave for over £30m but not to another epl side due to the sales of Torres mirrilas* yossi from lfc to Chelsea is their a bit of mutual respect their between the 2 clubs that would allow such a sale of mata I know it's not happening I just wondered if it could be possible?

Jay dub red

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool do not have the money to buy Mata Jay - so it is moot.}

1.) If we can't afford him, how come we could afford Willian / Mkhitarian, Costa et al, in the summer? What's happened to finance since?

{Ed002's Note - Sure, could sell Suarez to raise the money.}

2.) Ed, I am not denying your claim that Liverpool do not have money to buy Mata . But if it is really true that Liverpool FC are the 9th richest club in the world then why can't we afford him? If spurs can spend such money then why can't Liverpool? FSG made it clear that they can compete with any club in Europe, our squad is very thin, our bench always looks weak and if they mean business why can't they dig deep into their pocket to support the manager to get quality players who can push us to top 4? We always go for players who are available on loans and 1-8million bracket which to me is mid table teams mentality or judgement in transfer market though not always. FSG must really do something and forget about King Kenny's spending era because if we miss the top 4 this year it will dump our spirit.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you mean by "ninth richest". Spurs sold Bale and spent the money. Liverpool could sell Suarez and spend some money. Liverpool spend vastly more on transfers than the likes of Spurs.}

3.) Why not spend most of this summer's transfer budget and bring in the likes of Mata, Salah and Fernando Reges now? to secure champions league because otherwise we won't be attracting these type of players if we don't qualify then.

4.) UnicornRiver- we spent ~24M on two CBs after Chelsea signed Willian, BVB signed Mkhitaryan, and Costa decided to stay at Atletico, did we not?

5.) To be fair to the OP, our net spend is currently around 20M. In the same blll park as Villa and Swansea and 15M less than Cardiff.

6.) Not sure how you come up with 20M. My recollection is closer to 70M net since BR came in.

7.) That's 20M since the window opened in summer 2013.

8.) We may have to sell Suarez if we don't make CL

9.) Our net spend on transfers since the 2010/11 season totals £90 mills. This does not include agents fee's and taxes which would probably put another £30 mills on that total.
Don't any one say that we have not been forth coming with money for transfers.
LFC will buy the right player for the right price and will not be held to ransom.
I for one fully support the way we are conducting our business and if that means we miss out on a few players due to greed then so be it.
I would sooner have a player here to play for the badge than the amount of £000's we can put in there bank account.




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08 Mar 2018 19:38:34
Can anyone tell me why clubs have a star over their jersey crest I was thinkin it's for champs league but other winners don't have it?

Jay dub red

1.) 08 Mar 2018 19:43:38
Italian teams have 1 star for every 10 league titles.

2.) 08 Mar 2018 22:51:23
The stars on Man City’s is just for decoration and they signify nothing at all, apart to try and make you think they have won 3 European cups or something else.



14 Jan 2018 21:33:19
Ox is the man I want to Captain the team if not vvd!
Imagine we had a good keeper we'd be out of sight too!
Great win all the same 7 goals that's your money's worth!

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1.) 14 Jan 2018 21:52:07
Ox is fantastic, and i think long term he will be under serious consideration for the captaincy.

After his games against Swansea and Bournemouth, everyone agreed he was fantastic, but we all wanted to see how he'd cope in midfield against better opposition. Well today he proved that he is every bit good enough, even against some of the best midfielders in the world.

There were a couple of occasions where his strength was sublime and players bounced off him, he made a few neat tackles, his passing and flicks were progressive and ambitious, and his strike for the goal was reminiscent of the type of goals Steven Gerrard used to score. Even is interviews ooze leadership and class. You can see all the players respect him and he gets on with everyone.

I'm so excited fir his future here, but he can't get complacent after a good couple of months. This has to be the norm for him over the next 12-18 months. Then we can talk about that dream of his to emulate the great Stevie G, and the Liverpool captaincy. Form can be temporary, and he needs to show his class is permanent.

2.) 14 Jan 2018 22:15:43
He was excellent t against Chelsea too.

3.) 14 Jan 2018 23:05:05
Ox played well but he tried several hero balls none of which came off, i applaud him for trying them but watch the game again and marvel at Bobby different class.

4.) 14 Jan 2018 23:28:29
There’s always a fan who’s a fecking moaner! We’re the first team to beat city this season enjoy the moment Jesus Christ.

5.) 15 Jan 2018 00:08:37
Idon'tlooklikeklopp, we don't win that game w/ o Ox, FACT so I don't care what hero balls he does so far as we win and he sent us on our way with that driving run and goal.



03 Dec 2017 00:01:55
Ed01 my friend if u could answer!
What do u make of this rotation?
Yes injuries wise! But is this klopp being understanding of EPL? Does he now know it's not a sprint it's a race? What's your take?

Jay dub red

{Ed001's Note - a lot of it is injuries and illness, so it is difficult to really judge it. You can ignore the full backs being swapped around as most teams do that these days, as they have to cover so much ground. It really just seems to come down to Klopp trying to pick a team to win a game, rather than just putting his best team out and letting them play. I think it is more about him finally having the resources at his disposal to allow him to pick and choose players, rather than any particular understanding of the EPL. I am sure he would have done the same in the Bundesliga is Dortmund had been able to bring in the players to give him the luxury.}

1.) 03 Dec 2017 11:01:12
Great analysis, Ed. The depth and versatility is there in the squad and since we can play any type of formation up front, it allows us to still be at full strength up top while improvising in midfield and defence. Credit to Klopp and the boys! On to Wed and Spartak.

2.) 03 Dec 2017 12:17:41
I feel also Klopp has learned from last season when we were flying Untill the new year. Then players looked shattered and we went like 8,9 games without a win in January. Let's hope this run continues and it's great to look at bench and have 4,5 good players to take on.



26 Nov 2017 09:46:54
Just can't help thinkin if we'd of signed a good cb and keeper we'd be right up there with city!

Jay dub red

1.) 26 Nov 2017 12:37:07
I think a top class dm will improve us the most. Henderson is horrendous there.

If he was moved to the box to box roles we should see his performances improve.

2.) 26 Nov 2017 12:50:34
Fully agreed Davey. Our lack of protection from midfield is awful, highlighted yesterday by Drinkwaters runs into the box that weren't tracked. A top quality DM would improve the team so much.

3.) 26 Nov 2017 13:30:57
Savic from lazio.

4.) 26 Nov 2017 14:34:41
Spot on, Gordy. I agree that Hendo is not the best DM (horrendous is a bit OTT as he was brilliant there last season b4 his injuries) BUT a good CB will not help if the midfield offers next to no protection to the defence with the way our CM's leave Hendo out to dry and to do all the CM duties with no help at all from Milner, Wiji and Cou. The guy can't be everywhere at once and at some point, Klopp has to tell them to do their jobs cos right now, they are not.

5.) 26 Nov 2017 15:48:52
I do agree to an extent brover that the others don't help. And Henderson is a decent Cm. But his positional sense and decision making for a dm is certainly horrendous. He sees nothing else but the ball and will vacate the real danger time and time again to get it. Great if you're a box to box cm which he is. Bad if your a dm which he is not.

He has been so bad this year which is mainly due to him playing out of position.

I have said this many times now and some keep saying I'm negative because I mentioned I was disappointed after the southampton game. We should not be playing 4 3 3. It is a horrible formation for the players we have.

We should be playing a box of four so if Henderson or Can or however goes ball chasing which they will the other should already be in the dm position.

I think 4 3 3 is a great system but I klopp really should know by now we simply don't have the components to play it.

The 1 1 against Chelsea doesn't upset me. The fact we simply aren't learning is. I think the only hope is transfer markets because klopp seems head strung on this 4 3 3.

My optimism is that Keita being a real key piece. He should offer a lot more balance than coutinho.

Buy a top class Dm. Savic is a great but difficult choice. Someone of that ilk.

Add henderson/ wijnaldum other side and all of a sudden 4 3 3 works.

On a side note man I miss Alonso.

6.) 26 Nov 2017 17:17:20
Davey again, you are OTT with your comments. Firstly, Hendo is NOT a DM by trade YET he is playing the position to help the team. I think Can is a better DM BUT does not have the passing range (esp. long range) that Hendo possesses and cannot switch defence to attack quick enuff which is why Naby is coming. We can argue whether Klopp should have gotten a DM or should get one going forward and ED01 has said that he was already open to a DM last season and had Obiang not been injured, he'd prolly be here right now. If you are disappointed about the Saints game wehre we won 3-0 at a canter with a clean sheet and w/ Hendo playing well then that is your choice and it proves nothing in reality as that is just your opinion, which is not fact.

Until we can get a DM and plug some holes ONLY during the TW, Hendo is the DM and he needs help from his fellow CM's and right now, he is NOT getting that help so it is unfair to say that he is horrendous as a DM when he is NOT a DM as you can't have it both ways. Klopp likes the 4-3-3 and it works clearly BUT you are correct that we don't have the players to play it hence the reason Naby is coming cos he plays in the same system we play at RBL. There are still holes in this team that need to be filled so throwing a strop each time something goes wrong, won't help and neither will Savic cos he ain't coming as he signed a new contract last season. The players we have at=re the ones we have like it or not so we support the team until something can happen in the TW. God bless, my friend!

7.) 26 Nov 2017 18:20:03
I agree with everything there Brover.

Basically we are on the same page but I'm just a bit more head case when making my points 😀.

8.) 26 Nov 2017 21:25:08
Cheers, Davey.



28 Oct 2017 07:30:17
If it's true mingo and lovern start today I'll be sick! A pair of cluster #%#%# is being nice!
Taa matip Gomez ar

I'd love to see him try that!
Faith in klopp is wearing thin unfortunately at this stage.

Jay dub red

1.) 28 Oct 2017 12:15:13
Is Ward not out injured, although whoever plays should get out support?

{Ed001's Note - yes he is out injured.}




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Sweet Jesus 🙈.

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20 Jan 2018 11:02:29
I think Sturridge is finished love him but it's crocked now and on big wages! Ings hasn't had a run yet!
I get what your sayin tho about origi being ours and I do like him and he is only young but I'd rather see him develop and get game time then linger in our team and waste away and hopefully one day he does come back and makes me eat my words 😂.

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20 Jan 2018 08:13:03
I get what your saying swish but I don't think we need a player that "might be" good enough the team we have and are building now needs players that will come straight in to the team or even push the other 11 to play better cause their place is under threat! Origi doesn't threaten any of our front 3 in my opinion! Sorry for the rant 😂.

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19 Jan 2018 18:34:22
I'm not fickle swish it's just my opinion!
I don't rate him! I don't want Suso back either mate!

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19 Jan 2018 10:03:38
He's not good enough!

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11 Feb 2018 18:30:02
Very wrong.

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22 Jan 2018 09:11:49
3 pts and no injuries it's all I want!

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21 Jan 2018 19:53:51
Who cares abouts the other teams concentrate on our own and get behind the lads we are on a nice run and may it continue 3 pts 2mrw is all that matters!

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14 Jan 2018 23:27:16
Absolutely hate mystic meg posts sorry bb!

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10 Dec 2017 20:48:25
Klopps fault dropping players in such a big game! Fumin over the result we should o destroyed them like Sparta then rest players!
Wrong team for me and massive 2 points dropped against the worst Everton team in years!

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