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30 Sep 2018 00:19:42
Why is Salah so poor at minute? Anyone know? His decision making is terrible right now.


1.) 30 Sep 2018 01:43:59
He's probably not recovered from last season. I don't mean physically, I meant mentally.
The guy has been embroiled in all kinds of rubbish from image rights disputes, to being hounded for being given an "honourary" citizenship of Chechnya. Then you've got to remember that he's expected to score another 40 goals this season.

Mans got a lot on his mind, let him chill and he'll start scoring again.

2.) 30 Sep 2018 02:17:28
Pressure and opposition.

He's getting like 3 seconds to make a decision before someone sweeps in and gets to him.

I'd chuck him up top with the Shaq on the right.

3.) 30 Sep 2018 07:04:26
I thought he played well last night. until the final ball.
He looked fairly sharp at times yesterday and is still getting himself into good positions wanting the ball, I will start to get worried if he goes quiet and the chances dry up.

4.) 30 Sep 2018 07:48:03
Think he needs a stretch on the sidelines to be honest. Similar to what Klopp is doing with Keita and Fabinho- ease him back gently. I do vaguely remember mind he was a bit off the boil at the start of last season because people were criticising his finishing so I think he will come out of it.

5.) 30 Sep 2018 09:22:16
He had a similar start at the beginning of last season.

6.) 30 Sep 2018 09:36:36
Has nobody come to the conclusion that for Salah to overcome this new hurdle that, rather than leaving him on the bench or changing his position, he simply needs to play through it.

Time on the bench will do very little, Salah simply needs to find his rhythmn again, get used to the pressure that opponents are putting on him and figure out ways of overcoming it on the pitch. Once he figures it out I have no doubt Salah will get back to his best.

In all honesty, I think the front 3 all need to play through this so that they can re-find that deadly connection which made us a formidable team last season. Everything feels forced now, or very last minute, there is little of the linking and interchanges that we saw last season that led to goals. Give them time, to assess and figure out new plays on the pitch and we will have the front 3 of last season once again.

This year will be a challenge but, I have to say, our midfield has really stepped up their game. Wijnaldum and Milner, in particular. It is almost like the signings of Fabinho and Keita has pushed them to be better, regalvanised them. Our defence seems to have a better understanding of their responsibilities, although I think our fullbacks need to be very careful that they do not push too far up and leave spaces in behind, ala Chelsea match yesterday.

Alisson, what a breath of fresh air that lad has. Without him, Chelsea would have gone away with three points. He is a very good shot stopper but, even better, he is excellent at ball distribution which is an added weapon in our arsenal.

This season looks promising and I hope, pray to anyone willing to listen, that we finally win a trophy. It has been a very, very long time after all. Once we overcome that hurdle, I think you will see a Liverpool side that plays with freedom, expression and everything Klopp's style of football is truly about.

Stay positive guys, think about where we were 5 years ago and look at us now. The difference is truly astounding.

{Ed001's Note - spot on. It takes games to find form and Salah took nearly half a season to explode last season.}

7.) 30 Sep 2018 09:38:28
He's scored 1 goal less than he had at this time last season.

8.) 30 Sep 2018 11:44:25
Agreed, we we’re all worried about the chances he was missing by this time last year. We need the front three firing, and as soon as salah takes a couple chances he will be fine. I think we need Keita to cement his place first, meaning they can’t double up on salah as easily, as then we will have Firmino mane and Keita to worry about still.

9.) 30 Sep 2018 12:13:33
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I wouldn't describe him as "poor".

The final ball and finish is missing atm, but his link up play is still good, his movement is good, his pace still terrifies defenders, he isn't hiding from the ball. I thought in the first half yesterday he played far better than either Mane or Firmino and was surprised when he was subbed after 65 minutes. He's not playing badly, it's just the finish is missing. That can happen to players for periods, it's not a major disaster.

He will start scoring again.

10.) 30 Sep 2018 12:20:02
Not worried just think whack him up top for a few games get him a couple of goals and then we can rejig things.


11.) 30 Sep 2018 12:25:18
He just needs to score a couple of good goals to get going again, I remember all the posts this time last year saying he was a flop because he didn’t score enough and his final touch was terrible etc.

12.) 30 Sep 2018 12:25:38
for me, salah needs to find more ways to impose himself on the game. He's starting to link up more around the box and create space / angles for himself and others, but too often he fades out of the game when his team mates aren't feeding him the ball. If he just gets himself involved in and around the box he'll continue to open more and more opportunities for himself and his team mates. Then when defenders get touch tight to cut out his link up play, then the space will open up behind. Just rekon he has to keep playing to figure that out. not sure whether a spell on the sidelines would help, cos I think he needs to play his way through this.

13.) 30 Sep 2018 18:16:16
Salah was poor? Really? I just disagree. Being football player, Salah is a nightmare playing against, and he was giving chelsea some serious problems. Currently only problem is his finishing. His movement and dribbling is superb. If he scored atleast one, we would all be praising him. Give the man some rest and get of his back. This will not help, esp with stupid media already writing about 'poor' Salah.

14.) 30 Sep 2018 18:20:21
I think Mo is doing okay and although I might be interpreting this wrong I am convinced he has been affected by the Egyptian FA argument and the fact that one of those persons made a lightly veiled threat against his mother. Khaled Lateif, an EFA board member, warned Mo, that while he no longer resided in Egypt, his mother did.

“I’d like to remind @MoSalah that your mother is still in Egypt. You are abroad and can do as you wish. Those who understand, understand. ”

Lateif appeared to make the remarks shortly after Salah posted two videos on his official Facebook page criticising the EFA for the country’s poor World Cup campaign. Also don't forget, Magdy Abd El Gany, another senior member of Egyptian FA, also launched an attack on Salah on Tuesday, this time calling him a pig (Pigs are an animal considered ritually unclean in Islam and believers are prohibited from consuming them) .

“Here is a picture of me with four players and a pig in white, ” Abdulghani said in a caption accompanying an image of himself, Mo Salah and four other footballers. This is disgraceful to say the least! I find their politicisation of football and their constant flouting of FIFA rules to be worthy of sanctions by FIFA.

15.) 30 Sep 2018 18:44:50
A hat trick against City next Sunday and he'll be back on track 😃.

16.) 30 Sep 2018 19:37:35
He’s a guy that’s gone from 0 to 100 in one season. When we signed him everyone, including our own fans ere underwhelmed and not much was expected of him. He has that season and now everyone wants a piece of him.
The stuff with the EFA hasn’t helped but neither has the amount of awards ceremonies and individual accolades he’s won. He seems to be at a different awards night every week.
Nobody from Egypt has ever been under this much scrutiny so I would imagine it’s a bit of a culture shock to him it’s just not normal for so much to be expected of an Egyptian footballer.
I’m sure once things calm down a bit he’ll be able to get his head back in the game he’s been caught in a bit of a whirlwind over the past few months.

17.) 30 Sep 2018 20:49:06
If I remember correctly last season Salah had a slow-ish start and I remember the city game in particular he had 3 or 4 really good chances and failed to convert them. Obvs we know what happened after that and the score line looked like we got a drubbing from city but in all fairness we was right in that game until the manè red. Salah is only human and he will have a few bad patches but let's get behind him as class will prevail and he will come through this with flying colours.

18.) 30 Sep 2018 21:18:10
As most have pointed out the guys got a lot on his plate, last season would be a hard act to follow he's still getting in the right places working hard doing all the right things he will be scoring again soon just let him plod through it, a couple against City and he will be off and running again,

19.) 01 Oct 2018 06:30:53
nobody is really firing just yet which makes it so exciting. When we click, well omg, this has the feeling of something special happening, how many times in our hayday did we score really late, sometimes in injury time, sometimes we were ordinary but we still got points, just like we have done so far this season. Sturridge missed a sitter, so did Shaq, and now Salah. Just means its getting closer to us giving someone a hiding and kicking on, something that looks so much better from the top of the ladder rather than 8 points off the pace. Come on guys, so far ahead of last season already!

20.) 01 Oct 2018 10:07:23
Salah and the rest of the team getting a lot of grief on here the last few days, some hard to please folk about, it was hardly a terrible performance away from home at one of the best teams in the league. Oh, and we didn't lose for those who seem to think we did.

21.) 01 Oct 2018 14:13:10
I remember when Fowler had a drought and when Evans was asked about it he replied as long as he still getting in the positions and having the chances it will come, Mo is still getting in the positions still getting chances so give it time. You all have to admit expecting another 40+ goal season was a dream of sheer ecstasy.

22.) 01 Oct 2018 15:11:53
I'm sorry I haven't time to read the whole thread atm, only respond to the OP, because I take exception to this question being asked over and over. He has not been 'so poor', he's just lacing a little bit of his sharpness that he had in abundance last season but it will come. He is still frightening the pants off defenders and getting into those Oh-So-Salah type positions. I've said it repeatedly benching him would be the worst thing to do and I'm glad Klopp agrees. On the other hand, it is just really nice to have another option now that we didn't have last season. Plenty of games coming and both he and Shaq will be needed.

PS: I think it's time to give Keita a run of starts.

23.) 01 Oct 2018 17:22:41
Relax! Salah is contributing, remains a threat in behind and has more shots on target than every other player in the league. He could have had a couple on sat but the goals will come.

Too many people listening to media hype instead of looking at things rationally. The front 3 in general haven’t quite clicked yet but WHEN they do someone is getting a pasting!



17 Jun 2018 18:00:08
Hola eds,

Question for Ed001 or macca if they're around. Anyone know anything about Milan wanting to take brewster and moreno on loan?



{Ed001's Note - I don't know if the interest in Brewster is still there, they wanted him if he left us. Moreno is someone they have shown interest in.}

1.) 17 Jun 2018 23:04:47
How good is this lad tipped to be my friend?

Seems a lot of hype!

2.) 17 Jun 2018 23:48:51
A kind of hope we trim the squad a little of players who always seem to be there when there are injuries - much rather give solanke, Woodburn, Brewster the minutes. In recent times Flanagan, Gomez and Trent have all been given chances through injury and did well - I know Flanagan hasn't pushed on, but it's always nice seeing a player come through the academy, and I hope we see some more.

3.) 18 Jun 2018 04:12:46
I would rather have a capable squad player in a key position than gamble on an 18 ear old prospect. He can get minutes when we are 4-0 up against Arsenal. Not when 1-1 against Spurs.

4.) 17 Jun 2018 21:55:50
Thanks Ed heard it from a friend of mine in Milan and it was first I'd heard so was initially skeptical.

Apparently they'll be making a loan offer for the pair just after WC ends. Not sure why then since neither players are involved.

{Ed001's Note - they were showing interest in Moreno last summer as well.}

5.) 18 Jun 2018 08:45:31
Tried the search engine to see if the Grulic thing had been addressed in detail but couldn't find something . Is there any serious interest in the kid that could result in him leaving or is the club looking to rid of such as Marko and Allan who play similar positions and facing similar issues such as work permits and any hope of getting game time?

{Ed002's Note - Markovic is still for sale and it will be a case of setting a revised price that is realistic. His loan last season eventually turned out not too bad but when he arrived at Anderlecht he was out of shape and they were obviously not happy with that. Anderlecht did enquire after buying him but the asking price Liverpool had was prohibitive. Allan has been injured - I am not sure if he has recovered now but he will be let go on loan or permanently as there appears to be no other option. Grujic is wanted by Lazio and there have been some discussions between the clubs but there was no agreement before he left for Russia. The player and his father are apparently keen for the move to go ahead so he can get his career back on track.}

6.) 18 Jun 2018 09:54:51
Thanks for the detailed response, it's a shame how we contributed to the stalling of these kids careers. Best of luck to them where ever they end up. Thanks again for the quick and comprehensive response.

{Ed002's Note - I failed to mention it is Olympiakos interested in LM.}

7.) 18 Jun 2018 12:00:22
Sounds like Brewster is supposed to be the real deal.

8.) 18 jun 2018 12:55:08
when i read about "how we contributed to the stalling of these kids careers" i feel kind of strange, because it sounds like you are giving the club the "harms intentionally those players" tag. you mean, the club spent money, paid salaries and on purpose kept them away from first team action? because i don't feel like markovic wasn't given a chance, he just didn't perform. grujic also played and didn't look like he should be in the first team. allan just couldn't get a wp. etc?
so, all in all, in my opinion, can't blame the club about people not having a successful career, and also, at the same time, blame the club for not buying marquee signings (whatever that is), and then blame the club for taking gambles, and then blame the club for taking a risk with somebody, etc etc etc, list goes on.
truth is, business as usual, don't stare too much. life goes on, both for players and the club. no blame needed on any part. just best of luck to everybody is in order.

{Ed002's Note - You are missing the point that Liverpool never had a plan.}

9.) 18 Jun 2018 13:42:07
I won't argue on what Liverpool did wrong about every single player, but I don't think they intentionally do/ did anybody any harm. The same window they got Grujic, they also got Gomez, who proved himself worthy and is now a valuable member of the first team - more or less same age, good prospects, etc.
Same window when they bought Markovic, they got also Lallana, Origi, Balotelli - of those 3, one turned out pretty awful, one was pretty decent for a while but got injured and one was so-so and went out on loan. So there you have it - four different cases with four different players, all signed in the same window. My point is, it is more or less up to the player to show that he's the real deal. And, I 100% agree that sometimes the club makes buys that are wrong, but looking back it's easy to say "they didn't have a plan and they ruined the boy". Had Markovic done a Salah first season, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Anyway, no need to blame anybody on "failed careers" was my starting point. Of course things can go wrong, as in life in general. And it's easy to say when you look back "hey, that was wrong". Yeah, well, they didn't know that back then. I am sure everybody wanted Grujic to turn out to be a Gerrard, I know I did.

{Ed002's Note - Nobody has ever suggested it was intentional. It was more a case of buying players at the wrong time and having a manager who makes promises which are simply not true.}

10.) 18 Jun 2018 14:37:59
Whz whilst it wasn’t intentional we had no idea what we wanted to do with these players. This was rodgers spending money for the sake of it. 20 mil and when he played Markovic he was played out of position. We then turn off clubs wanting him as we want to recoup our money which is never going to happen. So Markovic has barely played whilst his value has gone down year after year. What’s the point in that?

11.) 19 Jun 2018 01:14:43
I think eds has clarified what was meant to be said, in all honesty the tone was set for the lads the moment we signed them without a plan in place for them to progress. Let's face it with broken promise from management and club that's has not planned a path to at least develop you further the odds are just not in your favor.



31 May 2018 11:32:44
Hi Eds,

Just a quick question for ed001 if possible.

I was quite surprised to learn that Gareth Bale actually sat in the LFC changing room after the final before sitting with his own teammates. Something not everyone in the Madrid dressing room was happy about.

I was just curious if we had any interest in him? He has said privately and publicly he's not happy and would listen to interested teams. Wages and fee are an issue obviously but if Salah were to go to Madrid a cash plus bale offer might actually be good for both parties.



{Ed001's Note - no, he went in to see old friends from Southampton, not because he would be interested in a move to Liverpool. The lad has made himself an outsider with Madrid players (and fans) with his inability to speak Spanish.}

1.) 31 May 2018 12:26:10
Also he never went in dressing room he seen lallana in drug testing room an woodburn in corridor an spoke with them he never went in dressing room.

2.) 31 May 2018 13:11:51
We have enough ex Southampton players must have been like a reunion!

3.) 31 May 2018 12:37:37
He still can't speak Spanish? He's been there five years, it took less time to teach a gorilla sign language (not exaggerating, literally took 4.5 years for Koko the gorilla to learn over half her vocabulary) .

{Ed001's Note - took less time for me ma and dad as well and they are in their 50s (well 60s now) and it takes much longer to learn as you get older. Believe me, teaching them anything new is far more difficult than any gorilla. I remember teaching me ma binary when I was in primary school and it was hard hard work!!Bale won't even do interviews in Spanish.}

4.) 31 May 2018 14:14:34
Think it speaks for the measure of the man that he pushed so hard to go to Madrid, has been there 5 years and can’t even be arsed to learn the language, don’t know what he expected to be honest.

5.) 31 May 2018 15:16:48
He learnt how to do over head kicks though - sadly.

6.) 31 May 2018 18:15:45

What on earth made you teach your parents binary? I’d find it hard teaching my parents the basics of a computer.

{Ed001's Note - I didn't have a choice, I was only about 9 and she was doing night school and made me teach her as she couldn't understand what their tutor was telling them.}

7.) 31 May 2018 18:50:09
And doesn't he have some views on Liverpool and their supporters that mean we wouldn't want him here anyway without a grovelling apology?

8.) 31 May 2018 22:40:51
Can’t speak Spanish?

This joker wouldn’t even try to learn Scouse. Complete non-starter 👍.

9.) 01 Jun 2018 00:20:07

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those that understand binary and those that don’t. 😂.

{Ed001's Note - there will be a lot of head scratching over that joke.}

10.) 01 Jun 2018 11:52:30
Quality. I wonder how many times this post has been read and read to see what’s missing or what the joke is?!



20 May 2017 08:30:32
Coutinho would prefer to stay. He's always been a very genuine guy since his days at inter. He recently said to a friend of mine that champs league is not a requirement for him staying and while Barcelona interest is flattering he's happy where he is for now.

I can't see him leaving unless Barcelona stump up the ridiculous asking price and the club decide to sell.

Also in other news I wouldn't count on James going to United as he has stated he does not think their style of football will suit him at all and is not keen on being rotated.


1.) 20 May 2017 09:05:16
I'm still holding out hope that he stays and plays midfield next season!

I really hope your friend is right. I don't want us to have to force him to stay like the Suarez debacle, I want Coutinho to want to stay!

If he stays and we invest in a left winger and new full backs I genuinely think we are title contenders next season.

2.) 20 May 2017 12:29:56
A Liverpool fan approaches a Liverpool player, he's not going to say yeah I want to go Barcelona is he?

3.) 20 May 2017 12:41:58
I'd hope Rodriguez does go to united and ends up playing as a second full back like Henrikh Mkhitaryan does. Particularly since it means another season of enmity and unhappiness at united.

4.) 20 May 2017 15:44:18
if there is any truth in rumours Neymar's dad/ agent suggesting he move away to come out of Messi's shadow then might impact on Coutinho wanting to move to FCB, I believe Neymar is the one constantly in the media about him going there.

{Ed002's Note - There are a couple of sides interested in Neymar but I would not expect a move this summer. Ideally Barcelona want to build around Neymar going forward - and they would be happy to see Messi move on. I have no idea what his father has said.}

5.) 20 May 2017 19:09:25
Ed2, I know that this is technically a European question ....

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Liverpool or Coutinho.}

6.) 21 May 2017 08:14:23

The friend of mine who spoke with him is a coach from inter who is still friends with coutinho from their inter days. It wasn't a liverpool fan asking him.

7.) 21 May 2017 20:25:53
Thanks Nevada for passing that on mate 👍.



10 Apr 2017 11:45:40
Haven't posted in a long time.

Was recently in the company of some friends at Real hierarchy and one mentioned (in passing) that James agent had been speaking about his clients preference for teams in the UK (Liverpool were mentioned as one) . Whether this was angling for better negotiating position or not is debatable.

I have not spoken to anyone who spoke directly with the player so I can't tell you his thoughts on the subject but thought I would share this info.


1.) 10 Apr 2017 11:53:28
Why not if lopp wants him neymarbwants to play with coutinho
Theo for left back Jessie for defensive midfield.

2.) 10 Apr 2017 21:35:57
Surely only interested if Coutinho goes, would be daft no ey and daft wages so would prefer someone else.




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02 Sep 2018 08:30:51
Maybe I might be the only person thinking this but I don't see what happened to allison as entirely his fault.

He should not have been messing about but when you look at the replay I think its a foul. Their striker does not make contact with the ball during the tackle his first contact is with allison leg and he then uses his momentum to force allison to the floor.

Before anyone says it's a stretch if the exact same challenge were done on a striker in the opposition box it would likely be a pen.


{Ed025's Note - "nobody likes us everybody hates us guess ill go eat worms"...get over yourselves nevada..

1.) 02 Sep 2018 09:42:49
End of the day he admitted his mistake, we all make them. If he makes it again then we can look at it. It diddnt cost us the game, we have conceded 1 in 4 so we move on imo.

{Ed025's Note - i agree mate..

2.) 02 Sep 2018 10:42:38
nevada, yes it was a dodgy pass he got, you can also argue it was a foul but he didn't help himself. he'll know he should have cleared it when he had the opportunity. won't be his last mistake but same goes for any keeper.

3.) 02 Sep 2018 11:00:38
Dodgy pass but he should have cleared it. No way was it a foul. Thankfully it happened at 2-0 up and we won the game instead of 0-0 in the champions league final. Let's move on and hope he learns from the mistake.

4.) 02 Sep 2018 11:44:16
yes he made mistake but that does not make a foul not a foul.

{Ed002's Note - Another conspiracy against Liverpool by The FA then.}

5.) 02 Sep 2018 12:02:06
It certainly didn't look a foul to me, the ball just lacked the pace to do what he wanted to do. Not a great ball back but more than enough time to stick it in the stands.

6.) 02 Sep 2018 12:28:02
Same here Irish! No clue why people are defending it. Would they call it as a foul if it was Firmino 😂.

7.) 02 Sep 2018 13:20:12
If you are going to keep playing passes back to the keeper, you have to provide him with alternatives. Im not saying that it is not Allisons fault, because it clearly is. but he's defenders are doing some dodgy stuff that leads to it even beeing a situation. And also, when you buy a goalkeeper who does this kind of stuff on a regular basis, you also habe to accept that its not going to work 100% of the time.

8.) 02 Sep 2018 13:22:47
If that was foul then Klopp may as well give up now. Half of our game is built upon trying to engineer those sorts of challenges. We can't have it one way and not the other.

9.) 02 Sep 2018 13:58:49
Doesnt mater in the slightest whether it was a foul or it wasnt a foul. Alisson should have smacked it into the upper tiers.

10.) 02 Sep 2018 18:21:13
It was a cock-up buck Alisson, no doubt.

BUT it was a blatant foul and a ridiculous mistake by the officials. No conspiracy, just a very very poor decision 👍.

{Ed002's Note - You seem to be on your own thinking it was a foul Ron. Are you sure it wasn't a conspiracy?}

11.) 02 Sep 2018 18:44:36
I can't believe this is a discussion point.
If Alisson did as he should and cleared the ball, there is no chance for the striker to apply pressure.
Back pass wasn't great but the goal was Alissons fault and it wasn't a foul, in my opinion.

{Ed002's Note - The plan appears to be to have Alisson dribble as much as possible, drawing the foul and taking the pressure off the defence.}

12.) 02 Sep 2018 18:56:19
Did he make contact with Alisson’s leg? Yes
Did he make contact with the ball? No

Sounds like a foul to me. 👍.

{Ed025's Note - i think you see what you want to see ron, look alisson made a pigs arse of things its no biggie, i think hes a better lemon than the past ones so this could well be just a blip, time will tell i suppose mate..

13.) 02 Sep 2018 19:26:03
I am with Ron. Two hands in the back, and pushed to the floor. It’s a clear a foul as night follows day. Roles reversed, I’d not argue it being a penalty.

14.) 02 Sep 2018 20:07:07
It's one of them isn't it, each to their own of course but I must agree with Ron and Benny on this one, clear foul in my opinion.

15.) 02 Sep 2018 21:24:35
Personally I wouldn’t embarrass myself and try and justify it. Sorry but it was a stupid mistake, didn’t cost us anything so let’s just draw a line under it and move on.

16.) 02 Sep 2018 21:31:16
Justify what? We are calling a foul a foul. We don’t care about the cruyff, what he should of done, bla bla. Anywhere else on the pitch, an if roles were reversed, it’s a foul. Even the premier league official I talk too on a regular basis, agreed, after seeing it in a replay.
But sure, we are embarrassing ourselves 🤦🏼‍♂️.

17.) 02 Sep 2018 22:19:44
I think all those calling the foul have agreed Alisson made a complete cock-up.

It’s simply a foul, take the Cryuff turn etc out of it, Alisson had the ball, Ihenacho swung his foot at Alisson’s legs, missed the ball and cleaned him out. Even if he’d touched the ball it was stil a foul. You can’t tackle like that.

18.) 02 Sep 2018 21:42:41
Ed every single keeper in the world makes mistakes.

It's never really been about the mistake, it's for me there self assessment.

The very top players can change things themselves, same as a manager being able to steady a sinking ship and bring it back. Like scrap the play book and start again, rather than just doing the same things over and over and hoping for different results.

Alison didn't make a single short pass after that mistake, to me he obv knew the f up as he was there 😂 but wasn't bone idle enough to keep trying stuff, he just booted every single kick. Not in a panic but like he knew he was going to get pressed and the opp would be hunting him.

Whereas a mignolet would keep doing the same stupid stuff over and over and wouldn't be able to self assess the situation himself.

That's where I think the quality of Alison cones in.

{Ed025's Note - mistakes happen KB its just one of those things mate, its if it repeats itself you have problems..



07 Aug 2017 01:22:17
I still don't believe that coutinho will leave, I've had no fresh info since the last time I posted about him.

What I will say is that if he were to leave it would be a problem in the sense that attracting other talented players when you're a club which sells all its talented players is quite tough unless you're willing to make silly guarantees about playing time or ridiculous wages.

Its nothing new of course as we were doing it way back in the 90s too but it's hard not to draw a correlation between our change to a selling club and our inability to win the league. I think even without coutinho we'll probably do ok in champs league as it tends to be populated by teams which we do well against (expansive and offering space) but I can't see a league title any time soon unless we start building teams instead of farming them.

No team has ever won any major trophy by selling their best players. Even teams which won with youth (united, ajax) did so by retaining quality players and selling AFTER they won some trophies. Id like to see us do this.

How do you tell a prospective player that you're a good opportunity when you don't (not can't - don't ) compete? You tell them if they stay for a couple of years you'll get them a big money move to a big club.

Perhaps it's time for us to accept we aren't a big club anymore and we are simply a feeder club to big clubs. Mcmanaman said this once - does everyone else in Europe think this too?


1.) 07 Aug 2017 01:33:12
"Perhaps it's time for us to accept we aren't a big club anymore and we are simply a feeder club to big clubs. "
Mate its a fact we are a feeder club, not an opinion. Its been like that for 20 years now. If we win the BPL, people will see it is as LFC doing a Leicester, a one off.

2.) 07 Aug 2017 02:07:50
We are a feeder club of course to the best clubs of Europe. If you can pay us we can help you win trophies. Without success and us always spending big that is the only way plausible to sustain ourselves and I think it is the right way.
Every player has a price, it's business. I think after neymar saga it's great bit of business if the club can get 120 million euros of Phil. Yes he is our best player but we would be selling him at 15 times what he bought him for. Makes business sense, not footballing sense. And that's all football is.
Brood some young talent in there and move on.

3.) 07 Aug 2017 02:08:23
"No team has ever won any major trophy by selling their best players. "


Sold Keegan - won league and European cup
Sold Souness - won league and FA cup double a couple of years later
Sold Rush - won league
Sold Owen - won champions league.

Must have been my imagination.

4.) 07 Aug 2017 02:59:30
Liverpool need to change their policy of accepting big bids for their best players. If you bid big enough, Liverpool will sell. This has been the case for a while.

Alonso, Mascherano, Torres, Suarez, Sterling and now Coutinho.

Obviously in more than one case, the player caused too much distress and we simply had to sell as we didn't want to keep an unhappy player. But just a quick look at our own experiences with VVD and Keita tells you that if you don't want to sell the player, even if the player causes a little grief, you can hold on to the player.

5.) 07 Aug 2017 04:52:14
Real AG, all those players forced their way out of the club. better to sell than keep players that don't want to be here. couts will stay unless he wants to force his way out. keita didn't force his way out and VVD is trying to avoid a transfer request to save himself a lot of money.

6.) 07 Aug 2017 05:00:15
Remember when Juventus sold Pogba for a world record fee and then won Serie A, the Coppa Italia and reached the Champions League final?

7.) 07 Aug 2017 05:22:45
Can't remember that Smeg. Must've been in the 90's 😉.

8.) 07 Aug 2017 08:44:59
Sure, Liverpool will sell Coutinho and win the league then MK and Smeg?

How did it work out for Liverpool after selling Suarez?

9.) 07 Aug 2017 17:54:08
Pains me to say it but so true. If by some chance we manage to keep hold of him then maybe I'll give that a second opinion but it does seem we are still a selling club. Was hoping that we would stand up to Barcelona on this and we could if we really wanted to. Leipzig can do it, why can't we.



26 Jul 2017 10:20:04
Coutinho will not be leaving this season. I'm told he's very happy and is not interested in going to Barcelona at the moment.

Of course all situations can change in future but for at least 1 year (though I expect more knowing what I know about coutinho) he will remain a Liverpool player.

He has always been interested in Barcelona but he has said both publicly and privately that he would like to win some trophies with Liverpool before possibly moving on.


1.) 26 Jul 2017 10:32:20
I think given how he's positioned in Liverpool side and with th fans, and securing a growing status in the international team now as a result, I hope he'd be keen to stay, watch his star rise further, cement a leading place in Brazil national team for the WC then move next year. moving now is not without risks to him.

2.) 26 Jul 2017 11:19:40
What is it you know about Coutinho which leads you to expect he will stay longer than one year if you don't mind my asking?

3.) 26 Jul 2017 12:24:33
"I'm told he's very happy and is not interested in going to Barcelona at the moment. "

"He has always been interested in Barcelona "

These 2 statements in the same post. Something doesn't add up to me.

4.) 26 Jul 2017 12:44:35
I disagree, Ron.

I've always been interested in the Bahamas, but I'm not interested in going this year.

If Nevada is to be believed, Pipco is interested in securing success at his clubs before ultimately fulfilling the lifelong ambition that most south american footballers hold of playing for Barcelona (or RM) .

I respect him for that, if that is indeed the case, and hope that he can help us get some sustained success over the next 2-3 seasons before making the trip to Spain, hopefully with our best wishes, and in return for a very large bushel of notes.

5.) 26 Jul 2017 13:06:35
Gutted Zed, I will have to find someone else to take with me 😩.

6.) 26 Jul 2017 15:07:40
Just take your 'zeddicus' shirt and I'll be there with you in spirit 😉😘.



30 Jun 2017 10:20:41
Question for ED001 if he is about. The clamour for midfielders this season (in particular CM) makes me wonder if the club has decided that perhaps Hendo will have these injury problems permanently. Recurring heel injuries tend to be problematic for pretty much your entire life.

Do you think the club is looking at Keita and/ or Ox because they are not expecting a full return from Hendo?

Thanks guys.


{Ed001's Note - no mate, it is about adding something different.}

1.) 30 Jun 2017 10:40:12
Thanks for the reply ED. Much appreciated.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

2.) 30 Jun 2017 10:41:46
Defenders who can head a ball - that would be adding something different.
I think we've enough variety in "midfielders who can run around a lot".

3.) 30 Jun 2017 11:07:56
How about adding someone who can take a corner? The opposition would never see that tactic coming.

4.) 30 Jun 2017 11:56:06
And a goalkeeper that can catch a ball.

5.) 30 Jun 2017 12:00:58
Jesus you lot give it a rest. I thought I was bad.

6.) 30 Jun 2017 12:05:28
Not a fan but in fairness, migs has shown improvement. That said, would be nice if we had defenders that could defend corners.



21 Jun 2017 12:23:31
Hi eds and posters,

Just a question for any ed really. Is hendos long standing heel problem one which is likely to be resolved? Is it the type of permanent injury which needs to be 'managed' rather than fixed?


{Ed001's Note - hard to be sure, it is possible it can be fixed, but, I am told, that only happens for some people. Some people just have to learn to manage it.}




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07 Jul 2018 19:45:38
I have no ties at juve but everyone I've spoken to who does have Tues to Italian teams has heard of no interest.




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17 Jun 2018 21:55:50
Thanks Ed heard it from a friend of mine in Milan and it was first I'd heard so was initially skeptical.

Apparently they'll be making a loan offer for the pair just after WC ends. Not sure why then since neither players are involved.


{Ed001's Note - they were showing interest in Moreno last summer as well.}



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02 Jun 2018 18:45:32
Ice hockey teams have the option of taking the keeper off to bring on another player. Be fun thing in footy.




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14 Aug 2017 17:05:00
No matter how good your sources may be they can never be 100% certain until a move or decision is made and done. It's nice of macca eds and others to share what info they get.




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10 Aug 2017 08:56:09
I don't believe that turning Barcelona down this year will rule out Phil's move next year. Barcelona have choice but to wait, their first choice (verrati) isn't available and their second choice isn't available right now.
Why would they be trying so hard to get second choice if they could just easily get first?

Coutinho said (back before all the drama) that he would not be leaving this year publicly and privately. I expect that's true. Either Barcelona will give us an offer that's impossible to turn down now or they will come back next year with a lower offer (which will likely be accepted) . They can't (as ed suggested) just go get verrati instead. He's first choice - if they could get him they already would have.


{Ed002's Note - They can't get their first choice at this time. Think of it this way, if Coutinho were to leave tomorrow, would Liverpool be willing to wait until next summer to replace him?

Barcelona want a replacement for Iniesta this summer.}




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11 Jul 2018 11:37:15
It's interesting that there has actually been a valid medical reason for the mistakes (though I think it's probably a combination of the medical and just having an off game) yet the above poster is completely ignoring the actual medically diagnosed reason in favour of a non diagnosed psychological reason for which he is not qualified to give.

As a person working in the field of sports psychology I can tell you that not every clanger in a game is because of mental weakness. People make mistakes, everyone does. The attitude of mistake =weakness is exactly the reason I am employed by various sports to eradicate that type of thinking.




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17 Jun 2018 09:41:52
What I like about VAR and other similar systems in rugby and ice hockey is the players cannot wander up to it and influence them like they do with refs on the field.

Unless governing bodies are going to get more strict about players approaching the ref they need to use VAR.




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16 Jun 2018 08:58:12
De Gea main problem was that he spent a season and a half constantly getting beaten from outside the box with fairly tame shots. United worked with him quite a bit and he did lots of extra training to sort it out but he was not the keeper he is now until 1.5 seasons into his United career.




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05 Jun 2018 00:35:55
Out of curiosity razor what is your profession? In the UK and US a theatre physician does not also conduct CT scans of the brain. That would would be done by a Radiographer who would then be sent to a primary care physician who would then decide whether or not it requires surgery and refer it to a surgeon.

I'm not doubting what you say just curious as to what a massive workload one doctor must have in your country as they are required to do the job of a Radiographer, reporting radiologist, and surgeon all as part of their role. I genuinely feel for that poor over worked physician.




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04 Jun 2018 22:19:31
Razor comparing a header to concussion is like comparing a step in tackle to a leg break.

They're not even close to the same thing. If karius didn't have concussion then the discussion is moot but a concussion is not trivial. I've seen the brain CT scans. I've conducted a few myself. It is true that people recover but it's not quick and usually takes a couple of months and concussions are cumulative too, more than 3 in a calender year in US sports means you have to take forces medical leave for 5 months.

It's not trivial.

I'm not saying karius is that bad, I'm not his primary physician, I'm simply saying that people are making a very serious condition seem very trivial.