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Team: Liverpool

Where from: Malaysia

Favourite player: Dirk Kuyt

Best team moment: Dirk Kuyt\'s chesting the boal from right edge of the box to Torres. Can\'t remember if Torres scored, but that movement from Kuyt made me started to love him as a Liv player.

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18 Apr 2017 05:39:52
Eds, any recent interests from other clubs on Lucas?


{Ed001's Note - since January nothing mate, but I am sure there will be offers in the summer.}

1.) 18 Apr 2017 08:06:46
Really appreciate the reply Ed01. Guess that him leaving is inevitable. Hope that it will be a good move for him.

{Ed001's Note - he will go eventually but his heart kept him here last January, so it is not certain he will leave this summer.}

2.) 18 Apr 2017 09:18:34
Would like to see him given a run of games now, I believe he gives us that little bit that's missing when we play the so called lower teams.

3.) 18 Apr 2017 09:19:33
A true professional who deserves a new contract. Hope he stays.

4.) 18 Apr 2017 10:02:42
Not as a starter but i sure hope he stays as he can be valuable squad player next season when we will have European games (be it cl or europa league)

He is also the longest serving player at the moment and from what i hear is a good influence in the dressing room.

5.) 18 Apr 2017 13:20:35
Agreed. And whether he stays or goes, it'd be nice to see him get a testimonial in the summer.

6.) 18 Apr 2017 15:16:53
Lucas should be given a testimonial and a new 2 year contract. He is still one of the best holding midfielders in the game and can also do a decent job at the back.

Also, he seems to have taken over the Gerrard mantle of settling new players into the club and giving good advice to the youngsters. As a dedicated professional he is also well respected in the dressing room.

For someone who came from another continent at a young age and was asked to change his natural position, he overcame dogs abuse at first to become the best in his position in the country. After a serious injury he has fought back to be a valuable player in the squad. For me, he was MOM in the Derby game, overshadowing the much-vaunted Guaye.

On top of all that, he actually really loves the club and there are not many you can say that about these days.

7.) 18 Apr 2017 19:16:12
Those who slated Lucas through out his time here should forever hang their heads in shame for the way they treated a very good player and a True Red.

8.) 19 Apr 2017 04:51:04
It all changed for him when he cut his hair. hahahaha.

9.) 19 Apr 2017 10:43:35
it changed for torres too when he cut his hair redrooboy.

10.) 19 Apr 2017 14:07:08
Hahahahaha. sure did.

11.) 20 Apr 2017 13:43:35
I know this is difficult to comment on but do the Eds know what his focus is? Seems unlikely he'll be a regular starter but likely he'll be in or around the match day squad. Is that going to fit what he wants to do?

{Ed001's Note - his consideration is playing time, he wants to get as much as possible here. If he is not going to even be around the first team squad, then he would be certain to go. While he is in and around the team, playing an active part, then it becomes very difficult for him to leave, even to a club that can offer him guaranteed first team football every week. Despite the boo boys, Lucas has fallen very much in love with Liverpool, both the club and the city, and is finding it very difficult to leave.}




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14 Aug 2017 01:15:16
A good post. One draw and lots in here even started to question the manager. It's getting kinda annoying visiting this page lately; the transfer window and now this. It is very hard to read at least some positivity. Most were just negative.


1.) 14 Aug 2017 09:51:40
Agreed, Haizan. I guess by that logic, Conte should be sacked if he loses the Spurs game next week. Utter nonsense! It is the type of knee jerk crap we have come to know and love from today's fans, really. Pathetic.



16 Jul 2017 07:25:31
Just sharing a thought.

The day I started supporting Liverpool, it was after they won the CL.

Before Torres came, I followed a bit of the Spanish League. Watched Torres in some games, and I didn't like him. Then Rafa bought him. He turned out to be one of the star.

When he left, Dalglish bought Suarez, whom I haven't watch him playing before apart from the World Cup. I didn't like him either during that time. And he turned out to be one of the star as well.

Then Rodgers bought Coutinho, whom I haven't heard of before. I didn't have the same feeling I had about Suarez and Torres. I just felt that time he was just a new signing, a kid and nothing more. Now he is turning out to be one of the star. Maybe not yet entirely, but I am pretty sure he will.

If Coutinho leaves, I won't be entirely disappointed. From this short experience and my own history of supporting this club, I'm kind of sure that the club will be producing yet another star. Who? It doesn't matter.


1.) 16 Jul 2017 07:48:34
Players come and go mate. We have signed many players and made them great. Problem is that prices for players are spiraling out of control and we cannot keep on waiting for players to develop into world beaters.

At this point it seems like Coutinho is staying and LFC do not want to sell. We have to keep our best players to get back to the top.

2.) 16 Jul 2017 07:55:43
I'm very confused by this post.
Did you come on to say that you only support us because we won the champions league, have no idea about players and don't mind if we sell our current best player?

3.) 16 Jul 2017 09:39:41
Pretty much yea lol.

4.) 16 Jul 2017 09:47:38
Sellin Coutinho will be taking a step backwards imo. We need to shed the tag of being a selling club first and foremost. So what if Barcelona and PSG want him? Tell them he is not for sale and keep planning for the coming season with Coutinho as the playmaker. 100% sure he will be around come 1st September and will help us win at least one trophy next season.

5.) 16 Jul 2017 10:08:58
Good thing about is right now is I don't know who our best player really is. Coutinho is individually the best but Mane has more of a positive affect on the team when he plays. Then there's Firmino who's as good as anyone on his day, Hendo who has a huge affect on the team and we miss when he's out. Salah? Lallana? Wiji had a great season. It's a good position to be in! (Notice I didn't mention any defenders 😂)

6.) 16 Jul 2017 10:21:40
I don't think you can give him stick for becoming an LFC fan in 2005!

When I was a kid my dad hated football. He was a Leeds fan as a kid and fell out of love with the club game through the 80's and 90's due to there 1st fall from grace. So all we would watch was England games because he is a bit of a patriot.

Anyway my favourite players watching those internationals were Michael Owen, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard and Joe Cole. When I got old enough (11) I decided I wanted to start watching MOTD. My first ever club game I watched though was Liverpool vs AC Milan in that final and I was sold. The passion, the fight back, Gerrard, the all red kit, winning the best trophy etc. It all came together for me and I chose Liverpool.

I'm not going to lie if my first game had been Chelsea winning the FA cup, things might have been different because as I say, I liked Lampard too.

Surely everybody has a single moment that made them choose Liverpool? Unless it was forced on you from birth in which case, I'd argue that the likes of myself and Haizan have a pretty good case to call you out! We chose LFC on our own, we didn't need to be told! 😉

Anyway, good post Haizan. Players cone and go. There will always be a new icon looking to take the mantle. Nobody wants him to leave, but no player is bigger than the club.

7.) 16 Jul 2017 10:22:45
I won't be disappointed if Coutinho leaves this summer. I will be devastated! We have to keep our best players if we want to win the league and quite frankly Phillipe is our best player.

8.) 16 Jul 2017 10:58:41
The thing is we need two of at least Couts calibre going forward, plus a really good support crew. Hazard&Costa last year for example.

Last time we came close we had Suarez&Sturridge, supported by SG, Sterling.

The time before that SG&Torres, supported by Xabi.

Hope PC&Mané can become our leading actors, and that we'll have a good enough support crew to mount a serious title challenge.

9.) 16 Jul 2017 11:04:32
I just don't think it's right to support a club (any club) just because they won a final MK
If lost would they all be Milan fans?

We give Utd fans plenty of stick for being glory hunters and that's basically what any fan who supports because of that final is as I highly doubt that is was so many peoples first ever game they watched.

That final is the reward for being a Liverpool fan and not the reason to be one.

10.) 16 Jul 2017 11:38:19
Laughing I think you are living in a bit of a dream world there. The reason why Liverpool are so well supported is because of our success and titles since Shankly.

The top supported teams are always the most successful and it is mainly down to fans wanting to support the team who either have the best players, play the best football, or win the most.

That is the way all sport is and always has been. Watch the Tennis today and see if you can spot a Cilic fan! Aside from his friends and family, nearly everyone else will be supporting Federer because he has been more successful which has made him more popular.

It is human nature mate. You either support your local side, you support who your family supports, or you support one of the best teams for glory. If you dislike that 3rd reason, Liverpool is a really bad choice for you! Without our Glory fans we'd be Bolton or Wigan, surviving off a miniscule local fan base.

11.) 16 Jul 2017 11:49:44
I remembered watching CL finals since early 2000s. I didn't decide to choose to support Real (I think they won it 2 times during that), Bayern, or Porto. And I didn't decide to channge to Barcelona after the 2005.

Back then, most of the mainstream media in my country covered mostly the Serie A and the Spanish League. To watch Premier League, we need to subscribe to satellite TV, which was at that time was really expensive. Internet wasn't like the internet now.

Well, all in all, I am a supporter a fan just like you, and the difference between us is just the reason. Peace.

12.) 16 Jul 2017 11:52:22
Lauvhin2, 2005 is as good a reason to fall for a club as one can ask, assuming you didn't have one prior. Why isn't that as legitimate as your reason?

13.) 16 Jul 2017 12:35:13
Why does it matter when or why we chose to support a team?

I became a Liverpool fan in late 90s even though I'm born and bred in manchester. My family are mainly all die hard city fans with a few utd. They all tried forcing their Teams on me, got so much stick growing up, still do this day. When I tell people I support Liverpool but I'm from manchester people are always like what? how? why? And I don't know myself how I became a Liverpool fan, all I know is I f**k**g love this club.

14.) 16 Jul 2017 17:44:59
I think we can all relax. All he is saying is that our judgement of a player before he arrives is not that important. The coach should know best. HE pointed out that there were several players that was not "world beaters" and turned into great players. OK, I knew about Torres but he was still pretty young when he arrived. I also never heard of Coutinho and barely heard of Suarez.
What he wanted to say was that even if players move on, we will find other players. Its true right? Fowler moved on and we had Owen, who moved on and we eventually got Torres, and that led to Suarez and now Coutinho has taken over the mantel.
Nobody wants to sell their best players but sometimes it can happen. we should all relax a bit. that's all.



08 May 2017 03:20:10
Just sharing my views on the game last night. Not exactly a review though.

I personally felt we defended well in the game. The midfield area was -most of the times- entirely ours, kudos to both Lucas and Can. Maybe that caused the Saints not able to attack much, hence I felt the defending was very good. However, there were some occasions that the defenders did really well to clear the ball. I felt Lovren was solid, and I'm particularly impressed with Milner for some of the defending that he did. I felt a bit mixed about Matip. There were lots of times that he put himself in the midfield area which put nerves in me, afraid that the Saints will make some conter-attacks. Once they did, but gladly the cross from Tadic was a bit hard for Long.

I like Wijnaldum a lot. But he went missing during the game. I couldn't say much about his running, not much that I managed to see from the TV.

The part that frustrated me the most was the attacking. Please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that we tend to try to get long range goals instead of playing in further inside. I noticed this in the past few games. I remembered we used to play to go for the perfect goals, playing inside the penalty box more than the long-range strikes that we have put in these past few games. Is this because of the absence of Mane, so we change the way we attack?

After the first half finished, I was screaming for Lallana and Sturridge. At 60 minutes, my screams were even louder. When they both came in, I saw some more fluidity in our attacking play. Sturridge was such a delight to watch.

In the end, the Saints defended well. Oh I didn't know that Forster is such a big guy until he came close to Milner before the penalty take.

All in all, I am dissappointed with the result, but not entirely dissappointed with the performance.

These are just my opinions and thoughts though.


{Ed001's Note - we miss Mane not because he is a winger, or because he has pace, or his trickery etc, it is because he is the only player we have that makes runs off the ball in behind. We need more movement. It was like Rodgers' final season at one point, with the entire team just strung out in a line across, no one moving or interchanging at all. It is clear they have bottled it, the pressure has got to them and they are scared to leave their spot in case they leave a gap in behind. We are playing a scared brand of football, with no freedom at all.}

1.) 08 May 2017 04:47:37

Absolutely spot on, couldn't agree more.

2.) 08 May 2017 05:00:08
Yeah. "Scared" is the word.

3.) 08 May 2017 08:33:09
As soon as i saw fraser forster in milners face i knew he would miss it. You could sense the team were under pressure and basically scared to a standstill hence no real movement. Although arsenal did us a favour i fear that if we play the same way in the next two games top four will quickly evaporate. Klopp needs to take the shackles off and just let them play football, they are clearly a good team and you don't get to top three at this stage of the season if you are not, they need to believe in themselves.

4.) 08 May 2017 10:52:25
I know it's easy to say after the fact but why did the rest of the team let Foster stand over him like that? Can or Lovren should have been up there shoving Foster back into his goal where he should have been. we didn't help ourselves in that situation.

5.) 08 May 2017 13:59:29
Personally though milner should have looked him in the eyes and given the silent f u, but his body language said it all. I think if hendo was on the pitch he may have had a word in milners ear. Either way its done now, they really need to pull their finger out against west ham now and start playing some proper football instead of this statue stuff. The only time they ran was when southampton had a rare forage into our half.

{Ed001's Note - if a captain had been on the field and seen that moment, he would have taken the ball off Milner I would think. His body language was not good.}

6.) 08 May 2017 21:20:21
He did not look convincing either. As Ed said, a captain would have stepped him and ended that whole nonsense and ushered Milner away as it seemed Forster got to him mentally.



28 Nov 2016 22:01:17
Hi all.

Sorry if this is not entirely Liverpool related, but since he was a Liverpool player, I would like to ask any of the Eds' opinions on Victor Moses.

I found it quite admiring, given the loans that he had, and finally broke into Chelsea's first team, and even performing, getting praises week in week out. He stayed patient eventhough he's been sent out on loan for seasons, and what a loyal club servant he seems to be.



{Ed001's Note - not good enough, despite all the plaudits he is getting, he is still not good enough. He was torn apart for 90min defensively against Spurs at the weekend, but everyone overlooks that because he scored a goal. I fail to see the hype and he will be found out. His touch is not good enough, he is just quick and works hard.}

1.) 29 Nov 2016 06:46:30
He is not a winger nor he is a full back hence he plays in between. Unlike at other clubs there Are no expectations from a wingback at Chelsea. His pace helps them greatly and only expected from him. They have midfielders covering his back in any case he is caught. They would never miss him if he is out injured or sold next summer.
He is having a time similar to one Benayoon had at Liverpool. Everything going well.

{Ed001's Note - except Benayoun was quality, he had an excellent touch, great skill and exceptional workrate.}

2.) 29 Nov 2016 07:31:24
Couldn't help but still admiring his patient to stay with the club. Or maybe, there weren't much interest on him from other clubs apart from just loans. Thanks though.

{Ed001's Note - or he was getting paid ridiculous amounts of money no one else would come near to matching? Because that was all it was about, money.}

3.) 29 Nov 2016 09:18:13
I agree ed1, he's never stood out to me as been a good player, infact quite the opposite.

4.) 29 Nov 2016 10:03:04
Match of the day even highlighted how son constantly gave him the slip during that game and capitalised on his lack of defensive awareness. If spurs stuck to their game plan they may have gotten something from the game.

He is an average player playing in a team performing above average atm. I guarantee if bertrand was still playing for them he would be in ahead of him, it just highlights they have a lack of options in the position.

5.) 29 Nov 2016 11:15:51
Moses is nowhere as good as Benayoun. In fact, Benayoun is up there with Henderson in terms of being unappreciated and under-rated.

6.) 29 Nov 2016 13:46:43
Harry, the fact that you compared a well below average player like Moses to a very talented player like Benayoun shows you know very little about football. Benayoun was a class act. He had more skill, technical ability, intelligence and work rate in his left toe than Moses has in his whole body. Moses was getting hammered vs Son on the weekend and Spurs literally showed the blue print of how to counter the vaunted 3-4-3 formation of Chelsea by overloading on Moses` wing with Delle Ali and Son but simply ran out of legs. Moses is average and that is a fact.



11 Nov 2016 11:31:36
To the Eds, firstly apologize if this is not the appropriate page to ask this, and if it is not, it's ok if you guys decided not to post this.

I wanted to ask for the Eds and fellow Reds' opinions about this poppies issue.

Somehow, I kinda agree with Mills saying instead of "commercializing" the issue, the FAs can just donate all the costs it might incurred if this resulted to fines etc. It would be more beneficial for the cause.

But I'm not British, and I might not understand entirely the significance and the importance of wearing these poppies, and I'm sorry for that. So guys, care to share your guys' opinions and thoughts about this?



{Ed002's Note - I am OK with you posting it and given there has ben some reasonable off subject discussions in recent days, there are no games to moan about and everyone is behaving well, we will see how it goes Haizan.}

1.) 11 Nov 2016 13:25:22
I think it's absolutely disgusting personally.

2.) 11 Nov 2016 13:41:20
I think if players/ people want to wear the Poppy well good for them, BUT, I think the Poppy has been taken over by the PC brigade and it is not an option not to wear the Poppy regardless of nationality. There are people who will be standing at the front of these commemorations who afterwords will not give two hoots about those serving their country.

3.) 11 Nov 2016 12:56:01
It's about rememberence. It's not political or commercial.
Remembering those who have offered and paid the ultimate sacrifice.
It's a personal choice, though why anyone would not want to remember is beyond me. If players want to wear one, they should wear one and the FA should back them up all the way. Players/ clubs may wish to donate to the charity too which would be a very appropriate thing to do IMO.

4.) 11 Nov 2016 14:01:47
Agree with you Haizan the whole thing has gone overboard. Why risk a fine or point deduction when perhaps something can be done before the game to commemorate the occasion. Instead getting a fine defeats the purpose when that money could have gone towards the charity itself.

5.) 11 Nov 2016 14:50:19
I'd rather the team wear it and get deducted points because they'll do bugger all anyway. it's an absolute disgrace been on such a position. Disgusting is an understatement.

6.) 11 Nov 2016 15:21:22
I think we should be proud of what previous generations have gone thru and sacrificed for the rest of us to live as we do today. I think it is only right that we respect the armed forces that have lost their lives in countries all over the world while we get on with our daily lives. It's a British tradition that we buy and wear poppies with pride. A small thankyou for everything that they do and have done in the past. I would stick 2 fingers up to Fifa and take the fine. Same goes for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

7.) 11 Nov 2016 15:38:16
I think the decision taken has been disgraceful as it is not a political symbol, it is a symbol of remembrance. It is a memorial for all soldiers who have died and a reminder of the cost of all wars in the hope that there will be no more names to add to the list next year or any year after. This makes it nothing more than a 'local' version of other global organisations with the same message e. g. Peace One Day/ World Peace Day, which FIFA were more than happy to endorse.

Equally, it is also the symbol for the charity Royal British Legion and when Barcelona have UNICEF on their shirts for years, Aston Villa have the Acorns Childrens Hospice often and Liverpool have Seeing is Believing (I'm sure there are loads of other examples I just don't Know them) and no-one cares, I'm not entirely sure how they can justify deciding that this legal charities' symbol isn't allowed but others are.

That being said, the mere fact that the question was asked should be enough - the importance of the day has been remembered. Whatever costs it would incure to show our support is irrelevant and as someone pointed out, a donation of the potential fine amount to the right causes would be far more useful than a fine to show support into the pockets of FIFA. As fun as sticking two fingers up at FIFA is, let's be smart here guys - helping is much more important than being seen to help. Thanks to the FA for trying, it didn't work, FIFA makes bad choices (whats new? ), let's move on.

8.) 11 Nov 2016 17:31:12
Who politicised the poppy? The media has done this not the RBL or the military. Our military are non political. They take the oath of allegiance to the ruling monarch. They serve their country for the greater good. They are then sent off to do the politicians bidding. The same politicians the majority of the population vote in.

9.) 11 Nov 2016 18:14:53
If all players at the clubs were British than i'd say yeah, but some people don't remember what other people remember. As an Irishman I wouldn't want to wear a poppy to remember people who killed Irish people during the troubles (poppy to my knowledge is to remember all fallen soldiers from all wars if I'm corriect) . I know the Irish were just as bad during the troubles and I don't have any grudge to hold against any country for somethings that happened too long ago, let's face it i speak English I support English football teams I have many English friends, colleagues etc. Further to that I know many Irish people fought with Britain in the war and fair play to them for doing their thing but for some it's not them they remember.

James McClane is a perfect example he won't wear a poppy because direct relatives of his were killed by British soldiers and I completely understand his stance yet every year he is berated for not wearing the poppy.

I hope I don't come across in anyway disrespectful on the issue but i do feel it should be celebrated differently. I feel the British should feel proud to honour fallen brothers, sisters, mothers fathers etc. who lost their lives during war. In relation to the upcoming international there should be no reason why the event cannot be celebrated.

10.) 11 Nov 2016 22:42:07
James McClane has more faces than a 50 pence piece. he'all not wear a poppy because of the troubles in NI. however he's happy enough to wear an Easter Lilly which is a symbol of republicanism and killing of innocent people. so whatever James does, I wouldn't hold it up as a sign of what to do!

11.) 11 Nov 2016 23:47:01
How would we feel if the fa or uefa stopped us having the badge for our 96
fallen fans.
Enough said.
Fifa is a joke.
They have so much other fu?, ;"ng bigger problems than bitching abouf people remembering their dead.
If you want to wear a poppy or a lilly wear one just respect the feelings of others.




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12 Jun 2017 13:00:43
Hi Ed01. It's not possible right, if indeed we get transfer ban, that the ban will be an immediate ban? Maybe more like next upcoming windows? I am thinking about similar bans in Spain. But I do understand that those bans were given by FIFA, and probably different from FA.


{Ed001's Note - I have no idea how it would work, if it even happened.}



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02 Jun 2017 05:46:57
Thanks Macca. VVD, Salah and Ox, for me that will be quite good.




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18 Apr 2017 08:06:46
Really appreciate the reply Ed01. Guess that him leaving is inevitable. Hope that it will be a good move for him.


{Ed001's Note - he will go eventually but his heart kept him here last January, so it is not certain he will leave this summer.}



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12 Apr 2017 09:17:18
Haha that's good one mingo.




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01 Apr 2017 10:06:23
Haha I forgot it's the 1st of April.





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21 Aug 2017 10:15:13
It's OK Ed01. Read it again just now, and now I got it.


{Ed001's Note - good, glad it makes sense now mate.}



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21 Aug 2017 05:57:18
A great Ed01. Just like you and some in here, I'm a big fan of Henderson.

Just wanna ask some clarification from you Ed01;

"This will improve under Rodgers' training set up especially since I expect to see so many triangles this season" - you meant Klopp's training set up, maybe some error typing, right? I couldn't get much after reading it few times. Maybe it was just because of my English.


{Ed001's Note - that is a mistake in the profiles layout I have asked Ed033 to sort out. Rather than just get rid of old profiles that have been done in the past, we wanted to add them on the end of the new ones, so people can see different perspectives on players through their careers. However there should be a clear break between them and also the author of each one should be credited at the end of his particular bit. My one ended with the paragraph about his running style being natural.

Sorry for the confusion.}



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20 Aug 2017 13:23:17
I just feel that if they really want him, and he also really want to go to them, they should start all of this much much earlier. I started to understand more the frustrations, it seems too late to find someone to replace him with the window just left a few days. By replacement, I meant in midfield though.




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20 Aug 2017 00:58:57
You once said Lallana should be sold, now without him it'll be a bad season.

I understand the hatred towards Henderson; he didn't score that much, or assist that much, but come on, how long he has been out prior these games? And we just played two games.




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17 Aug 2017 07:35:19
I can imagine how crowded it will be in the area during games. I can't imagine how the atmosphere would be in the stadium. I'm sure it's more than just great. You guys are lucky. Wish I can go there like you guys.