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28 Nov 2016 22:01:17
Hi all.

Sorry if this is not entirely Liverpool related, but since he was a Liverpool player, I would like to ask any of the Eds' opinions on Victor Moses.

I found it quite admiring, given the loans that he had, and finally broke into Chelsea's first team, and even performing, getting praises week in week out. He stayed patient eventhough he's been sent out on loan for seasons, and what a loyal club servant he seems to be.

Thanks.

HaizanMSS

{Ed001's Note - not good enough, despite all the plaudits he is getting, he is still not good enough. He was torn apart for 90min defensively against Spurs at the weekend, but everyone overlooks that because he scored a goal. I fail to see the hype and he will be found out. His touch is not good enough, he is just quick and works hard.}


1.) 29 Nov 2016 06:46:30
He is not a winger nor he is a full back hence he plays in between. Unlike at other clubs there Are no expectations from a wingback at Chelsea. His pace helps them greatly and only expected from him. They have midfielders covering his back in any case he is caught. They would never miss him if he is out injured or sold next summer.
He is having a time similar to one Benayoon had at Liverpool. Everything going well.

{Ed001's Note - except Benayoun was quality, he had an excellent touch, great skill and exceptional workrate.}


2.) 29 Nov 2016 07:31:24
Couldn't help but still admiring his patient to stay with the club. Or maybe, there weren't much interest on him from other clubs apart from just loans. Thanks though.

{Ed001's Note - or he was getting paid ridiculous amounts of money no one else would come near to matching? Because that was all it was about, money.}


3.) 29 Nov 2016 09:18:13
I agree ed1, he's never stood out to me as been a good player, infact quite the opposite.


4.) 29 Nov 2016 10:03:04
Match of the day even highlighted how son constantly gave him the slip during that game and capitalised on his lack of defensive awareness. If spurs stuck to their game plan they may have gotten something from the game.

He is an average player playing in a team performing above average atm. I guarantee if bertrand was still playing for them he would be in ahead of him, it just highlights they have a lack of options in the position.


5.) 29 Nov 2016 11:15:51
Moses is nowhere as good as Benayoun. In fact, Benayoun is up there with Henderson in terms of being unappreciated and under-rated.


6.) 29 Nov 2016 13:46:43
Harry, the fact that you compared a well below average player like Moses to a very talented player like Benayoun shows you know very little about football. Benayoun was a class act. He had more skill, technical ability, intelligence and work rate in his left toe than Moses has in his whole body. Moses was getting hammered vs Son on the weekend and Spurs literally showed the blue print of how to counter the vaunted 3-4-3 formation of Chelsea by overloading on Moses` wing with Delle Ali and Son but simply ran out of legs. Moses is average and that is a fact.


 

 

11 Nov 2016 11:31:36
To the Eds, firstly apologize if this is not the appropriate page to ask this, and if it is not, it's ok if you guys decided not to post this.

I wanted to ask for the Eds and fellow Reds' opinions about this poppies issue.

Somehow, I kinda agree with Mills saying instead of "commercializing" the issue, the FAs can just donate all the costs it might incurred if this resulted to fines etc. It would be more beneficial for the cause.

But I'm not British, and I might not understand entirely the significance and the importance of wearing these poppies, and I'm sorry for that. So guys, care to share your guys' opinions and thoughts about this?

Thanks.

HaizanMSS

{Ed002's Note - I am OK with you posting it and given there has ben some reasonable off subject discussions in recent days, there are no games to moan about and everyone is behaving well, we will see how it goes Haizan.}


1.) 11 Nov 2016 13:25:22
I think it's absolutely disgusting personally.


2.) 11 Nov 2016 13:41:20
I think if players/ people want to wear the Poppy well good for them, BUT, I think the Poppy has been taken over by the PC brigade and it is not an option not to wear the Poppy regardless of nationality. There are people who will be standing at the front of these commemorations who afterwords will not give two hoots about those serving their country.


3.) 11 Nov 2016 12:56:01
It's about rememberence. It's not political or commercial.
Remembering those who have offered and paid the ultimate sacrifice.
It's a personal choice, though why anyone would not want to remember is beyond me. If players want to wear one, they should wear one and the FA should back them up all the way. Players/ clubs may wish to donate to the charity too which would be a very appropriate thing to do IMO.


4.) 11 Nov 2016 14:01:47
Agree with you Haizan the whole thing has gone overboard. Why risk a fine or point deduction when perhaps something can be done before the game to commemorate the occasion. Instead getting a fine defeats the purpose when that money could have gone towards the charity itself.


5.) 11 Nov 2016 14:50:19
I'd rather the team wear it and get deducted points because they'll do bugger all anyway. it's an absolute disgrace been on such a position. Disgusting is an understatement.


6.) 11 Nov 2016 15:21:22
I think we should be proud of what previous generations have gone thru and sacrificed for the rest of us to live as we do today. I think it is only right that we respect the armed forces that have lost their lives in countries all over the world while we get on with our daily lives. It's a British tradition that we buy and wear poppies with pride. A small thankyou for everything that they do and have done in the past. I would stick 2 fingers up to Fifa and take the fine. Same goes for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.


7.) 11 Nov 2016 15:38:16
I think the decision taken has been disgraceful as it is not a political symbol, it is a symbol of remembrance. It is a memorial for all soldiers who have died and a reminder of the cost of all wars in the hope that there will be no more names to add to the list next year or any year after. This makes it nothing more than a 'local' version of other global organisations with the same message e. g. Peace One Day/ World Peace Day, which FIFA were more than happy to endorse.

Equally, it is also the symbol for the charity Royal British Legion and when Barcelona have UNICEF on their shirts for years, Aston Villa have the Acorns Childrens Hospice often and Liverpool have Seeing is Believing (I'm sure there are loads of other examples I just don't Know them) and no-one cares, I'm not entirely sure how they can justify deciding that this legal charities' symbol isn't allowed but others are.

That being said, the mere fact that the question was asked should be enough - the importance of the day has been remembered. Whatever costs it would incure to show our support is irrelevant and as someone pointed out, a donation of the potential fine amount to the right causes would be far more useful than a fine to show support into the pockets of FIFA. As fun as sticking two fingers up at FIFA is, let's be smart here guys - helping is much more important than being seen to help. Thanks to the FA for trying, it didn't work, FIFA makes bad choices (whats new? ), let's move on.


8.) 11 Nov 2016 17:31:12
Who politicised the poppy? The media has done this not the RBL or the military. Our military are non political. They take the oath of allegiance to the ruling monarch. They serve their country for the greater good. They are then sent off to do the politicians bidding. The same politicians the majority of the population vote in.


9.) 11 Nov 2016 18:14:53
If all players at the clubs were British than i'd say yeah, but some people don't remember what other people remember. As an Irishman I wouldn't want to wear a poppy to remember people who killed Irish people during the troubles (poppy to my knowledge is to remember all fallen soldiers from all wars if I'm corriect) . I know the Irish were just as bad during the troubles and I don't have any grudge to hold against any country for somethings that happened too long ago, let's face it i speak English I support English football teams I have many English friends, colleagues etc. Further to that I know many Irish people fought with Britain in the war and fair play to them for doing their thing but for some it's not them they remember.

James McClane is a perfect example he won't wear a poppy because direct relatives of his were killed by British soldiers and I completely understand his stance yet every year he is berated for not wearing the poppy.

I hope I don't come across in anyway disrespectful on the issue but i do feel it should be celebrated differently. I feel the British should feel proud to honour fallen brothers, sisters, mothers fathers etc. who lost their lives during war. In relation to the upcoming international there should be no reason why the event cannot be celebrated.


10.) 11 Nov 2016 22:42:07
James McClane has more faces than a 50 pence piece. he'all not wear a poppy because of the troubles in NI. however he's happy enough to wear an Easter Lilly which is a symbol of republicanism and killing of innocent people. so whatever James does, I wouldn't hold it up as a sign of what to do!


11.) 11 Nov 2016 23:47:01
How would we feel if the fa or uefa stopped us having the badge for our 96
fallen fans.
Enough said.
Fifa is a joke.
They have so much other fu?, ;"ng bigger problems than bitching abouf people remembering their dead.
If you want to wear a poppy or a lilly wear one just respect the feelings of others.


 

 

25 Sep 2016 06:49:21
Hi Ed01. Wanna ask you if you're ok with it. And yes you have shared with us previously your thought about this. It's about Henderson. I felt that he have changed a lot since. He seems more "fierce", more vocal, and really upped his confidence. I didn't watch the Chelsea game, so I put my my most attention on him during yesterday's game, especially because of the spectacular goal he scored versus Chelsea. One occasion he seems shouted at Lallana to let the ball pass for him to shoot. Though he didn't score with that shot, I thought that was a good sign of him being very confident. He was neat, very neat actually, IMO. Yes he didn't make any fancy through pass or chip or whatever, but his side passes, though they might look like they are slowing the game a bit, I felt they are more like giving some calmness to the lads or the play. Maybe I am being exaggerating, since I really like him, but really wanted to know your opinion, if you don't mind of course. Thanks Ed01.

HaizanMSS

{Ed001's Note - I think he has always done that, it is just that people do not seem to have noticed it in the past. Maybe he is just more obvious now than in the past, but I do not see that much of a difference, personally.}


1.) 25 Sep 2016 11:04:00
It is a total myth. A couple of years back I remember him shouting at Gerrard during a game and thinking to myself "Jesus, even Carragher didn't have the bottle to do that".

He do is a born leader. He has practically coached Emre Can through every game they've played as a partnership, protected the younger lads in the team with the odd meaty challenge to warn off the thugs etc.

He might not be as inspirationalas Gerrard, and he certainly cannot win games by himself. But what he is better than Gerrard at is being a genuine vocal leader. He is also far superior at game management. There was another time where he almost tore someone's head off for losing possession instead of taking it into the corner when we we're winning late in the game.

We as a collective actually do not realise how lucky we are to have such a selfless player and a world class leader. He plays wherever he is asked and never complains. As long as it is what is best for the team, that is his primary concern. He may not be a world class player but being a captain is about more than just scoring work does every week. And Hendo has hit a few screamers in his time to be fair to him anyway!


2.) 25 Sep 2016 12:21:23
Its his time now as he is in the spotlight with stevie suarez carra all gone.

I beleive by hendo not playing cost us the league under Rodgers.
Very important player who has played a lot while injured .
Him not playing cost Hodgson the English job.


3.) 25 Sep 2016 13:04:23
MK, I could not agree with your post enough. I think many of his detractors have been unfair to Hendo since he replaced SG (their idol? ) as captain. They seem to measure his ability and leadership qualities to SG whereas SG had NO leadership qualities and tho he's has more ability than Hendo, Hendo is more effective with the ability he does have. The boy is selfless, a workaholic, a leader and commands genuine respect amongst his teammates and the coaching staff. Done know if SG commanded as much respect but maybe the Ed can educate me on that. All you MK, described is exactly why Hendo is and will be captain of LFC and why his detractors (those who continuously blame him for no reason anytime we don't win) need to get over it ASAP or they'll remain bitter for the rest of their lives.


4.) 25 Sep 2016 14:32:54
Agreed Hamilton. He isn't Gerrard and should not be judged on his ability to score loads of great goals and single handedly win games. He should be judged on his own game, and his own qualities; of which there are a lot.


5.) 25 Sep 2016 22:35:05
mk scouser your right it was the west brom game at home we won 2 1 a game which hendo scored i remember him screaming at stevie we had the ball in the corner in control an stevie tried one of his crosses into mario hendo ate the bake off him that's just was u want from every player in the squad the balls to give the captin a blocking when he desreves it.


 

 

11 Aug 2016 04:51:06
Hi Eds and fellow posters,

I would like Ed01 to share his views on a particular player, Ibrahimovic. I know he's not a Liverpool player, and it might seems irrelevant for me to post this here. Just would like to know your and other Liverpool fans' opinion on him as a player.

Me, he's one of my favorite. I found it hard nowadays to find that kind of players with bags of skills and tricks, which are really entertaining and exciting to watch; players like him, Henry, Ronaldinho etc. I think I might be watching lots of Man United games just because of this guy.

Thanks.

HaizanMSS

{Ed001's Note - he is a fantastically athletic skilled player, his weakness is his lack of workrate when his team do not have possession. While you can say that about a lot of strikers, when you grow up watching Rush, you realise how much of a difference it makes having a striker who is willing to help out when your team do not have the ball too.

If he is on a team that is good enough to get a decent amount of possession, then he is a fantastic player, if you are struggling, then he becomes deadweight to carry. For me it is all worth it though, just to get him on the ball, because he is a delight to watch. He is like a better Cantona, who was excellent in his own right, but Zlatan just does the same things better.

It is not just the finishing and the control and skills, it is his ability to hold the ball up and then bring others in that has kept him at the top level so long. Last season he was able to collect the ball and play in the pace around him, so that defenders were lost on how to deal with him. If they followed him into deep areas to try and cut out the pass, he would play in someone else into the space left. If they stayed back, then he had time to turn and look up and play someone in. Quality player.}


1.) 11 Aug 2016 06:17:25
You pointed out on him being in the top level for long, even he is now close to the age that most will retire or started to get slowed down and such. Totally agreed on that.

I believe not many like this. Ronaldinho, my all time favorite, started to disappear when he moved to Italy and even more so when he moved back to Brazil eventhough he was just 30 or 31 back then.

Btw, thanks Ed01 for the sharing. Appreciate it.

{Ed001's Note - Ronaldinho was fading at 27, when he should have been peaking, sadly he was more interested in partying than training and so lost his way.}


2.) 11 Aug 2016 06:29:32
So I guess it will always goes down to the discipline and attitude ya Ed01. Coupled that with great talent, we'll get those like Zlatan and some others.

{Ed001's Note - yes, such as Ronaldo, who trains like crazy.}


3.) 11 Aug 2016 06:49:48
Yeah that guy Ronaldo is a beast. Again, thanks Ed01.


4.) 11 Aug 2016 08:44:53
One of the most overrated forwards in world football, capable of the sublime given enough time and space he'll get neither here, I think he'll probably just about make double figures but they'll be at home and feature the odd brace when a game is won to bring his average up. Plus he's trouble especially when everything isn't about him, he's a wrong'un in other words and is at the right club because it's full of them there.


5.) 11 Aug 2016 09:27:42
Haven't seen much of him on the ball in his time at United granted he's only played a handful of preseason games, but there's no denying the threat he causes when the ball is in the air which is worrying considering the amount of goals we shipped from such situations last season. With a bit of luck Jürgen's sorted that though. Watching him in Champions League games he hasn't particularly impressed me, whether he just doesn't turn up in the big games or not will be a lot easier to judge with the PL not consisting of one or two teams like the French league.


6.) 11 Aug 2016 09:33:40
Brazilian Ronaldo was the best for me as pure striker.


7.) 11 Aug 2016 09:49:45
Zlatan will be fantastic for manUtd


8.) 11 Aug 2016 11:01:40
very good player for me but can go missing in games when you need him to step up. I think he's just come to the league too late in his career. the pace won't suit him and he's not going into an established team. mourinho loves hardworking players and is prepared to concede possession which is why it seems a bit strange he's gone there than to be anything other than an impact player ( which surely isn't the case) i actually think arsenal should have gone for him- established team and style that has a lot of possession in and around oppositions penalty box but regularly does nothing. He could have made real difference to them.


9.) 11 Aug 2016 12:36:02
Agree Gareth. I think Brazilian Ronaldo at his peak beats any other striker at their peak IMO.


10.) 11 Aug 2016 12:36:02
Agree Gareth. I think Brazilian Ronaldo at his peak beats any other striker at their peak IMO.


11.) 11 Aug 2016 13:13:12
We will NEVER see a player like the Brazilian Ronaldo, that much I can assure people. As for Zlatan, he is just class. A technically and skillfully brilliant player, as Ed said. Some say he doesn`t work hard enough but Romarion never did either and his arguably one of the best CF`s to ever play the game. Zlatan is that good not only because of his talent, but due to the coaching he had at Ajax. While there, there was a certain Marco Van Basten who was coaching the strikers at that time for a while. You tell me if you won`t improve under the guidance of the one many consider to be the best CF to ever grace a football pitch. Zlatan is great in the right system where everyone does the water carrying and he`s allowed to just be himself. If he played under Klopp, he would be rubbish as his system doesn`t allow for great players who are slackers in terms of workrate. We will see how he does at UTD.


12.) 11 Aug 2016 16:44:50
I cannot remember where I read it (maybe here) but I remember somebody saying that his biography ghost writer made up the whole ego nonsense and Zlatan signed it off because he hadn't read the book. When he realised it was in print he decided that instead of looking like an idiot he would play up to the I am Zlatan alter ego and take the nonsense even further. I'd love that to be true. A footballer with a self deprecating sense of humour.


13.) 11 Aug 2016 20:49:01
I was just a wee lad when Brazilian Ronaldo was around but i remember him being a beast and watching him back on YouTube his finishing on both feet looks sublime.

Ronaldhino is my favourite player of all time but i just wish he took Football a little more serious then going out and partying.


 

 

26 Jun 2016 12:54:29
Hi Ed001,

I've been browsing through some past Liverpool players, not from the old days, but more on the recent past few years.

I would like to ask your opinion on Lambert, as both a player and a person. Maybe he is not as technically gifted as some of the more popular strikers back then. I remembered watching him played in a few games for Southampthon, I was kinda liked the player. He's not mobile, yes, but sometimes he did make some nice passes and seems like a really hardworking player. Didn't see much of him though when he was a Liverpool player.

So, what's your opinion on him Ed01? Maybe more on when he was in Southampthon. Didn't watch him playing for West Brom, not sure how he was last season.

HaizanMSS

{Ed001's Note - he just never got a chance for us, no idea why Rodgers decided to buy him when he had no idea what to do with him. He was a very good striker, no pace, but excellent creativity, that would have been useful playing off a forward.

As a guy, he had fantastic enthusiasm and a good attitude, which deserved better treatment.}


1.) 26 Jun 2016 14:26:31
Thanks Ed01.


2.) 26 Jun 2016 15:06:21
ed001 Rodgers ruined his career before the Liverpool move came about he was scoring goals for club and country, sadly lambert let his heart rule his head and paid the price, now the poor sod is working under tony pulis. To buy a player like him and then have no idea how to use him is criminal.


3.) 26 Jun 2016 15:06:53
Considering he can't get in a piss poor West Brom team, and is a player that suits Pulis' style of play, that says a lot.

{Ed002's Note - You should really keep going after him - share the hate with another past, present or potential Liverpool player - it is after all the Liverpool way.}


4.) 26 Jun 2016 15:48:15
are you sure he suits pulis's style of play? i don't remember him being a very typical target man.


5.) 26 Jun 2016 15:49:16
Ed your say the owners what to win the league but you look at the other teams who trying to do the same and there buying better players.

{Ed002's Note - In which case you need to get Klopp out and bring someone in who has a better knowledge of the players available. An easy fix.}


6.) 26 Jun 2016 15:57:34
When he first joined, he struck me as a player with excellent vision, touch and read of the game and a clinical finisher, just hampered by a lack of pace.

Would have been very capable backup option in a 4-2-3-1 and receiving the ball to his feet, then feeding in the runners around him, and would have done well with Coutinho, Llalana and Sterling at attacking mids providing the movement he lacked.

Unfortunately was never used that way (admittedly not really liverpools style) and we never played to his strengths, leaving him a shadow of what he was at Soton. have no idea why we bought him, but that wasn't his fault.


7.) 26 Jun 2016 17:17:45
Lads lads lads. He was a decent player but come on. Not Liverpool standard. We all liked him. But still, not to the level we want.


8.) 26 Jun 2016 18:52:32
Ed002, have you forgotten to eat your wheatbix lately?


9.) 27 Jun 2016 00:23:59
Agree natural, hence why I called him only a decent backup option, but he was still never played to his strengths which made him look a lot worse than he was. He almost never played with Lllalana, and almost never in the 4-2-3-1 that made them look so effective we went and bought them, was bizarre.


10.) 27 Jun 2016 02:17:24
2 b fair lambert can't get a start under pulis so somethings not quite right, you would think he'd suit pulis' style too.


 

 

 

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13 Jan 2017 05:06:08
You think is he ready for the 1st team soon? Read a few times of you praising him. Can't wait to watch him.

HaizanMSS

{Ed001's Note - I have not seen enough to judge him, but certainly the coaches believe he is growing into the English game.}


 

 

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15 Nov 2016 03:58:49
Maybe lie to impress, Ron?

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28 Jul 2016 23:46:15
Do you rate him Ed01? Other posters?

HaizanMSS

{Ed001's Note - not seen enough of him sorry.}


 

 

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26 Jul 2016 05:40:03
There are still lots of hatred towards this guy. Maybe not from here, but still lots especially on those FB, Instagram and such. They will be cheering if this is true.

I hope he stays. Quite ashamed that I was one of the haters in the past few years.

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20 Jul 2016 05:59:46
Ed01, it sounds worrying from the sound of it. Fingers crossed.

HaizanMSS

{Ed001's Note - we just have to trust in Klopp, only time will tell, but I would prefer it if we just went and got those we targeted, rather than failing because we messed them about and end up jumping on a similar player offered to us. Due diligence has not been done and those kind of deals are a much bigger risk.}


 

 

 

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07 Jan 2017 04:58:11
Ed7, i've read quite a few managers like this. Might as well just let those 'clownshoes' manage the teams. In the end, it's the managers who get the sack, not them.

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05 Jan 2017 22:22:03
You think Can is more suited in a more attacking role, Ed01?

HaizanMSS

{Ed001's Note - yes. He has no defensive mindset, he doesn't understand the role. When Can is playing there, he throws himself in on the halfway line, picking up needless bookings, when he should be staying on his feet and ensuring he is covering the defence. It is fine to do those on the edge of the box when a player is running at a disorganised defence to ensure no pen is given away. However you do not do it on the halfway line, you stay on your feet and give your defenders time to organise and other players time to get back, as well as keeping yourself in play, not sat on your arse on the halfway line. You are absolutely no use to the team sat down on the halfway line!}


 

 

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05 Jan 2017 04:41:21
Whenever we lost or drew, they will be some who will have digs on certain players, the manager, the selection, the tactics, and maybe more.

Now, it's Klopp who doesn't have the balls to play the youngsters? What if he chose the youngsters, and we lost?

Maybe your point is not directly towards the Sunderland game, Leek, but using Pochettino as a comparison. hmmm. I'm out of words already. Nevermind.

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01 Jan 2017 03:41:02
Exactly zimbo. I'm not expecting us to win the league, but we are definitely in a good position to go and fight for it. I can't wait for us to play in the Champions League again next season.

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30 Dec 2016 12:14:56
Thanks Ron!

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