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21 May 2018 20:39:30
BRover, I do agree with you, there are several players in the PSG team who are arguably too good for the French league. Neymar knew the standard of football there before he signed. He and his father were more interested in money than sporting ambitions. I am sure player power will get him out of there though.


1.) 21 May 2018 21:44:49
What do you mean player power? Do they not want him there?

2.) 21 May 2018 23:14:58
I have wondered about mbappe if he will ever reach his potential playing in the French league. I think one of the eds has said he may well end up at Madrid, but he needs to be tested.

3.) 22 May 2018 00:08:02
I think it was more a list of predictions than anything, definitely not a list of done deals.




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04 Nov 2018 10:00:27
Getting a draw away to Arsenal used to be classed as a good result in the past.
Now Liverpool are expected to put 5 past them, why can't some fans accept Arsenal played well and are clearly much improved.
Liverpool cannot win every game.
My only real issue is the midfield is not very creative. Hinsight is great, if Shaqiri played we may have been too open in midfield, who knows?
I still think Keita will make a huge difference to our midfield once he gets used to the league, ultimately we had midfield injuries but went to Arsenal and got a draw, not perfect but a good result.


1.) 04 Nov 2018 10:22:52
Spot on, Greenflash. In a game like that away from home, you first of all try to contain the opposition hence, I have NO prob. with Klopp's approach going in esp. vs a team in great form and at home. Yes, the midfield was not creative and lacked any type of control and direction and this is where Hendo is important. Pretty sure if Shaq had started and we were too open and got beat, the same people (not you, surely) you know, thos who thought LFC should put 5 past arsenal at home, would be saying he should have been more pragmatic. Same ol' nonsense as these guys are NEVER wrong. I do agree that Keita is needed while Fab keeps getting up to speed with the PL cos DANG, he struggled last night.

2.) 04 Nov 2018 11:44:32
Why can't some fans accept the fact that everybody has their own opinion and, just because people disagree, doesn't make them right or wrong. I was disappointed as I thought we didn't play to our potential, had the clearer cut chances, and conceded somewhat cheaply. Fans expectations have changed as the team has improved and got better, that's a good thing right? Because if our expectations were the same then it would likely mean we were a long way from challenging for the league. As it stands we are not, and we could've won the game yesterday - I don't think anyone should be castigated just for having that view.

3.) 04 Nov 2018 11:57:52
Spot on Seano. It’s all healthy debate but some people take it so personally if someone dares to disagree or share a different view. If we knew as much as we thought we did then we would be playing, managing or officiating in the premier league. Not sat here typing about it.

4.) 04 Nov 2018 12:08:25
We 're not at our best but 8 wins 3 draws is excellent so we can't be disapointed.

5.) 04 Nov 2018 12:43:27
Seano not sure if your post was directed to me BUT if it was, my issue is not people having diff. opinions. Our expectations may have changed BUT the realities of football has NOT. My issue is consistency. Had we lost yesterday, I would still defend Klopp's initial approach of keeping it tight cos that is what I would do esp. recognizing the brilliance of Arsenal. What I don't like (and I am free to air my opinion on this as anyone is) is when people automatically think Klopp was wrong cos he did not do what they wanted. And had he done what they wanted from jump and it failed, they will still blame him for it. That lacks any form of context.

I want Klopp to do what is right and NOT what I want. Also, I try to put myself in the mind of a manager and what he is thinking and Klopp may have done something I disagree with BUT I can understand it based on the context of a game. "If you can't win a big game on the road, you better not lose it" comes to mind here REGARDLESS of what my or anyone's opinion is. That is how a manager thinks, IMO.

6.) 04 Nov 2018 13:09:37
Brover why didn’t arsenal set up to keep it tight to counter our brilliance. After all they are a team that’s in transition which is a term we used for 3 seasons and yet they are brilliant after 3 months of theirs. Klopp seems to like having the 3 similar players in midfield and has done for a number of seasons now. Not for the first time yesterday our midfield 3 were the second best midfield on the park. Unfortunately our front 3 were unable to bail us out and get us the win.

7.) 04 Nov 2018 13:23:53
You are having a laugh BRover. Stop this protecting klopp from criticism.
Recognizing the brilliance of Arsenal? Like how? Xhaka is a crap midfielder and if you surrender to him then that says a lot about our players.
Klopp is at fault coz he signs players and he has no clue who he wants to field in the midfield.

8.) 04 Nov 2018 14:58:35
Anyone who doesn’t recognize that Arsenal are a much improved team from the start of the season isn’t very smart. City were fortunate to play them early before Emery had time to implement his methods. Not many teams will come away from points at the Emirates.

9.) 04 Nov 2018 15:02:55
Xhaka may not be the best player in the world but that is not to take away how good Arsenal are playing under a new manager in a short period of time. Have a little respect at least. Their new midfielder (Uruguayan) was special yesterday. We had enough good chances to win and maybe we should have but Arsenal caused us a lot of problems, they were very good.

{Ed0333's Note - drawing is still a bitter pill to swallow mate. We had so many excellent situations to score and win the game. Yes Emery has done a remarkable job in such a short time and yes they were good but we should have won. I’m not a fan of our midfield I still don’t think the mix is exactly right but for me the biggest difference is the dissipation of Mane, Salah and Bobby. No one expected the telepathy of last season to repeat itself but they’ve regressed so much that when they are breaking three v three they can’t even play simple passes that would create goal scoring opportunities. Salah and Bobby are seriously culpable of this. The hope and silver lining is that they have to come good and when they do the mood on here will be a lot cheerier. I’m loving the psychology of our fans though thinking we should be going to Arsenal and winning. It’s not arrogance but confidence born out of what this team has achieved and Klopp’s leadership.

10.) 04 Nov 2018 15:03:06
A point is better than nothing and take nothing from Arsenal the really showed up and caused us problems we played well in most parts we have a few criticisms but you don't stand still while your winning you keep trying to improve that's why constructive criticism is good but some get a bit carried away.

11.) 04 Nov 2018 15:04:18
"these guys are NEVER wrong", wow the hypocrisy. Yet again Brover your forcing your opinion onto this poster, trying to belittle him / her with your "not you surely" comment. I actually agree with most of what you said, but it's how you put your posts across. You post in a very condescending way, with a wiff of the know all about you.

12.) 04 Nov 2018 18:34:40
Waro, me indicating that I am not directing a point at someone I am responding directly to, is hypocrisy and condescending and belittling to you? That's your opinion and I don't have to agree with it.

Fillet Weld or Harry (I pretty sure that is who this is), you just proved my point for me. Klopp is wrong or crap cos he did not do what you wanted. Also, if you thought Arsenal was not good enough to beat us based on their current form, then that is a conclusion you drew by yourself as the game debunked that theory. They were good enough to beat us and they proved it. That is my opinion. Cheers, man.



08 Oct 2018 10:38:27
If Klopp has decided on a more pragmatic approach for Liverpool, to conserve energy, then that is a good thing for the team over a long season.
If the front 3 are not pressing the opposition for 90 minutes fair enough, but Liverpool must find a creative spark in midfield.
In those really tight games like yesterday, I always felt 1 eye of the needle pass from David Silva and we were beaten. I never think our midfield has that kind of vision to play those passes. We definitely need a playmaker to help this team.
I am not criticizing any individual players here, I am simply saying this team needs a Silva or Debruyne type player in midfield.
Coutinho has not been replaced and the current midfield has no goals in them.
Hopefully when Keita settles he will weigh in with a few goals.
But we are joint top after a tough set of games, so I better stop moaning now.


1.) 08 Oct 2018 11:07:42
Yet Couts never actually managed to pick any locks when he was with us. We miss Ox more than anything with his direct, powerful running.

2.) 08 Oct 2018 11:15:14
100% agree Greenflash.
We definitley need a creative spark and that has been missing a little since PC was sold.
However I do not see many world class creative types or are there players I have perhaps overlooked or missed?

3.) 08 Oct 2018 11:22:59
I agree with you whole-heartedly, OP. However, you play the hand you are dealt and not the hand you wish you had. |It's called reality, my friend. We all wanted Fekir and it did not happen so no point going on about it. We don't have Silva, KDB nor Bernardo so again, no point talking about players who don't play for you.

The issue here is that even tho we do not have a no. 10, we have STILL created a boat load of chances this season and had we taken more of them, this whole "lack of no. 10" issue becomes a moot point. Afterall, this same team dropped 4, 3 and 3 on WH, PSG and Saints (could have been more) .

This is where we must start the conversation cos regardless of who you have at no. 10, if your forwards are not making better decisions in crucial moments, you will still be were we are now esp. if they are off form and knackered. The hope now is that since our tough run is over for now (one where we did pretty well considering) along with the int'l break, our boys will come back fresher and stronger.

4.) 08 Oct 2018 12:00:50
Do not agree when we are joint top at the premier league table. Klopp is a better tactician than you and I who has always played attacking football.

The opposition was also Mancity which is the toughest team in the league and one of the toughest around Europe.

Even last season it was not untill after the second international break when we started to really fire. Give the boys time and let's hope for the best.

5.) 08 Oct 2018 12:18:27
Hey Redmen. Long time no post. Been away, working like a maniac and sick. but getting back to normality. Feels like, too many people with knee jerk reactions which is not surprising but pointing it out.

For all Man City’s wealth and creativity, they couldn’t score either yesterday, so do you think Man City fans are saying they need to invest in their squad lol? If they are then I have no words.

We have Shaq, Ox, Lallana all to come into our midfield options. Klopp did say after the game that he hasn’t used more of the squad because of the run of fixtures and the level of opponents we have had in last couple weeks and the main core is more settled in formation and way of playing and that going forward he will be using the squad more.

We are sitting top of the table, even on points, unbeaten, not saying it’s perect but damn I am happy with where we are and what’s still to come from our squad. Less drama and more optimism is needed in my opinion. It was a cracking game and looking at the stats after, a draw is a fair reflection on both teams in my opinion.

I just had to add because not seen anyone mention it any where. Gomez at RB was genius in my opinion. He had a stormer. Not faultless but his speed and reading of the game was immense and TAA would have struggled I think against Augero and Sane late on. Fair play to Klopp for that call. I’d go as far as to say that won us a point. Although TAA may have won us the game but we will never know.

6.) 08 Oct 2018 13:32:48
All fair replies guys, but it is not a knee jerk reaction off the back of 1 game against Man City. It is a fact that if the front 3 do not score, Liverpool struggle.
Klopp tried to rectify this with Fekir, maybe we can get David Silva in the Summer lol.

7.) 08 Oct 2018 15:36:10
If we don’t have that player we could certainly buy in January! Money is not the issue I am convinced. More than it we could play Shaqiri in the mix.
If he is never going to displace the front three, he should be fitted elsewhere.
Brilliant post OP. Hit the nail there!

8.) 08 Oct 2018 19:27:27
Greenflash, fair play on your response. I don't believe your post was a knee jerk reaction at all. Just a solid assessment. Our midfield need to start chipping in with goals BUT like I said, this is the hand you are dealt.

As for Shaq, he has to earn Klopp's trust, just like Ox did who played the no. 10 and was brilliant at it. Why? He could create and do the dirty work, get stuck in and score goals. I don't think Klopp is sure Shaq can do that right now as the Saints game showed when he pulled him cos there was too much space in midfield after we lost the ball. It is up to him to earn the right to play and not for Klopp to just play him cos people keep on whining about it.

9.) 08 Oct 2018 21:01:44
Obviously just my opinion and that’s what makes football and this site so entertaining.

I still maintain it’s a knee jerk reaction. We scored the same amount of goals as Chelsea and Man City did against us. That’s because the quality of the opposition and the tactics employed by the managers not because of the quality of the squad.

We have a fantastic squad and when we are able to give others game time and rest some of the core squad, that will help to improve everyone’s form for different reasons. Rest for some and minutes for others.

By knee jerk reaction I mean it’s a reaction to a small part ie: 3 games of a small part of the season, 11 games including cup games.

We are 3rd highest scoring team in the league and arguably had the most difficult start to the season out of all the teams in the league. hardly cause for concern. Let Kloppo do his thing with the squad he has assembled. In my opinion adding more players is not the answer but do agree with the fact that we can’t play Milner, Hendo, and Gini in every game as we need some creativity but I think we have plenty to experiment with. Fabinho, Keita, Lallana, ox to come back and could even drop Firmino behind Studge.

Def not trying to be obtuse or argumentative but think perspective is important.



05 Jul 2018 21:08:09
Can I ask about Sheyi Ojo, I seem to recall he was in the list of top 5 youth players in the world. He was a player I thought was going to make it with Liverpool.
When he moved to Fulham on loan, I thought it was a great move for him. He seems to have been left behind now. Is it more than just injuries. Thanks.


{Ed001's Note - yes, he has not made the expected progress. The worry is that he was just physically more advanced and so looked better than he actually was. However this often happens with players who are ahead at a young age, as they do not push themselves as hard as the ones who have to catch up. It is a common problem in sports.}

1.) 06 Jul 2018 09:39:52
Such a shame. His play reminded me of John Barnes. Also the hype around him made it look like he had the potential to be (nearly) as good.



05 Jun 2018 20:58:52
Hi ed02

Is Leon Bailey of Leverkusen still a possible target for Liverpool. With all the talk of Dembele of Barcelona apparently signing, the likes of Bailey and Pulisic are not mentioned as much lately.
Fans seem to believe Dembele is certain to join Liverpool. I am not convinced it will happen, so I'm curious if these players are realistic targets.
Sorry about the vermin who abuse you, for simply providing genuine information.
Thanks Ed02.


{Ed002's Note - No, Bailey won't be moving to Liverpool this Summer.}

1.) 05 Jun 2018 21:38:32
It sounds like Bayern are very keen on Bailey.

2.) 05 Jun 2018 21:35:42
It’s shame he won’t move to Liverpool, but what a player. Ussain bolt of football.

3.) 05 Jun 2018 22:29:58

You just killed my hopes of bailey.

Unless you meant just not this summer cough cough.

No need to reply. Let me have that sliver of hope lol

He is the player id love liverpool to sign most of all. Think klopp would make him a monster.

I could live with him going to munich but couldn't stomach him going to city.

4.) 05 Jun 2018 23:30:05
Bailey will not be going to City. They have too many established wide players plus Mahrez there. Would be career suicide for the lad to go there. Bayern's a good option for him as Robben's long term replacement on the right wing.
As for LFC, not a hope of getting Bailey with the costs involved. Especially when the main targets (Fekir and Alisson) will be so expensive themselves.

5.) 05 Jun 2018 23:30:05
Bailey will not be going to City. They have too many established wide players plus Mahrez there. Would be career suicide for the lad to go there. Bayern's a good option for him as Robben's long term replacement on the right wing.
As for LFC, not a hope of getting Bailey with the costs involved. Especially when the main targets (Fekir and Alisson) will be so expensive themselves.

6.) 06 Jun 2018 06:56:41

Im under no illusions, i always knew that at best he was a very long shot he just a player i like and who would suit our system to a t. Especially a long shot with the purchase of keita fabinho and potentially fekir which in truth cannot be argued with at all. 3 excellent signings. Add a goal keeper to that and we are pretty much done in terms of spending big on anyone else.

Would be a hell of a window if fekir and oblak were to come in over the next few weeks.

The one flaw in it all would be no quality addition to the front 3 group. But getting fekir and oblak would be a hell of a comprimise to not adding to the front 3. The added goals from midfield from fekir and keita might help lighten the load.

Oblak over allison all day long for me by the way.

7.) 06 Jun 2018 08:58:49
Personally Wolverine, Alisson is the safer bet over Oblak for me. Oblak from what I have seen does not come off as a sweeper keeper. He has the great wall of Uruguay protecting him and the reason why he stands out is for his shot stopping, certainly not for his kicking or bringing the ball out of the back. Alisson all day for me. And he is gettable imo (if Roma drop the asking price a little) coz Real i feel will walk away and get Courtois as a more reasonably priced option.

8.) 07 Jun 2018 23:29:02

I understand your reasioning for allison and they are all fair points.

I just think oblak is the better keeper. And if they were roughly around the same price and the money was there after fekir id go for oblak.

His shot stopping is not just good its insane.

I don't think karius played as a sweeper keeper at all last season. I don't think there is a need for one the way liverpool play. Henderson dropped so deep when the keeper had the ball it was mostly a roll out or a very short pass.

Now maybe if we get a true sweeper keeper it would slightly tweek the way we play but at the moment there is no need for one.

Perhaps henderson drops so deep because we don't have one and is a kind of forced style due to circumstance.

I personally would rarther have a monster between the sticks that can command his area than a half monster who is good with his feet.

When allison and oblak stand side by side in the playground im going for oblak as my keeper.

Im not saying its night and day between them i just think oblak has better qualities suited to pure goalkeeping.

If we sign either keeper id be more than happy though. Like i said i understand why you would want allison instead.

Either keeper would vastly upgrade the gk position in the first 11.



21 May 2018 19:14:02
Great review ED1,
I wonder how Neymars' team mates feel, when the new manager is already calling him an artist etc. Just massaging his ego even more. Maybe they can roll the red carpet out for him before every match.
Cannot help when Rivaldo is the latest telling Neymar he is too good for PSG.


{Ed001's Note - I am sure he will be out of there as fast as he can be.}

1.) 21 May 2018 19:41:31
Of course, he's too good for PSG and the French league. I mean, how can you win the Balon D'Or (which is what Neymar wants in the end) when you are playing against the likes of Lorient, Nice, Angers, Metz, Dijon and the rest of the dross in Ligue 1? That's not going to happen so while should he stay there? IMO, Neymar always wanted to go to Real (since his days at Santos cos he said so then) but then went to Barcelona cos RM never bid for him. That's why he's trying to jump ship now and join RM. Just my take.

2.) 21 May 2018 19:43:45
Wait ed, is this your way of saying Neymar to Liverpool? 😜.

{Ed001's Note - no mate, he just got out of the Argentine Salah's shadow, no way he wants to completely disappear in the shadow of the real thing....}

3.) 21 May 2018 20:06:11
Ah look we’ll take him. He can come off the bench when Bobby or mane gets knackered. I think he could develop well with salah showing him the correct way to play.

4.) 21 May 2018 20:10:46
He can go to Real Madrid for all I care. Doubt if they would have enough for Salah as well, which is a bonus.

5.) 21 May 2018 19:58:07
BRover- If I remember correctly from one of the Eds, Real Madrid did actually bid a "higher" amount for him but he opted to go Barcelona. We have later found out that in actuality Barcelona actually bid a higher amount if you factor in the under table payments to Neymar's father. But I agree with you that this entire episode of going to PSG and then moving to Madrid may have been engineered from the very beginning, to circumvent Barcelona probably vetoing any direct sale to their arch rivals. The Barcelona supporters would have never accepted it. Board elections are won and lost on such decisions.

6.) 21 May 2018 21:29:42
He’s completely motivated by money and fame, everything that is wrong with the modern game.

7.) 21 May 2018 21:51:08
Thanks for the clarification, ArAy. I do agree that he prolly always wanted to go to RM BUT I guess money spoke at the time.

8.) 21 May 2018 23:17:41
I know Neymar is quality but are Madrid not put off by the huge amount of baggage he comes with? From their point of view is think Salah is a better prospect.

9.) 21 May 2018 21:07:55
Very good Eds1 😂.




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30 Oct 2018 12:17:14
Don't worry about it Hailstones, some people do overreact when you mention a star player could leave the club. You and TOM27 only mentioned you read a newspaper article.
None of us can say for certain that Salah, Mane, Firminho etc will be Liverpool players next season. The better they play the more stories we will see of Barca, Real, Psg looking to buy them. The 2 spanish are allegedly the dream for nearly every player, for whatever reason.




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29 Oct 2018 13:37:43
Players come and go, they are transient. Very few will have genuine loyalty to 1 club, especially it seems, when Barcelona and Real madrid come calling.
I do not believe this story, but even if it were true, find a replacement and move on. It happens all the time in football.




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31 Aug 2018 20:40:55
You pretty much summed it up Irish Rover, Edo2 did say Liverpool massively overpaid what anyone else would, I think it was Chelsea who were originally interested. The Eds also said he was definitely not ready to move to the premier league.
4 years of his life wasted, let's hope he can resurrect his career elsewhere.




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20 Aug 2018 22:30:33
I hope Karius can regain his form and confidence with a fresh start.
Ed02, with Napoli and Besiktas both choosing different keepers to Mignolet, has he run out of options, or are there other clubs possibly interested. Thanks.


{Ed002's Note - His agent wants a move - and January will never be good.}



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17 Aug 2018 22:09:32
I never said it was Klopps fault for the abuse Karius received, as you rightly say that was down to the cretins. I think he handled the Danny Ward situation poorly. How was Ward going to get game time over Karius and Mignolet, the whole season was wasted for him.
Klopp is doing a brilliant job and bought so well this season, but we are allowed to occasionally criticize him, the goalkeeper situation definitely could have been handled better.





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12 Nov 2018 18:22:43
Walter thinks we are relegation candidates, as we only beat Fulham 2-0. At least we are not in the bottom 3 for now, we may even qualify for the europa league with a bit of luck.




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11 Nov 2018 10:02:21
A nice change to see both fighters showing respect in the build up to the fight and and after the fight. I lost interest in boxing due to all the trash talk and fake fighting in the press conference and weigh in etc.
Hopefully Joshua and Usyk will drive trash like Fury and Wilder out.
Great respect for Tony, he accepted his best was not quite good enough. Glad he's retiring, too many fighters wrongly carry on for 1 more pay day.




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09 Nov 2018 21:40:36
There are 6 top teams in the prem capable of winning trophies, it's easier said than done. Klopp has improved this team enormously. We are clearly getting nearer the top and have been improved in all the key areas.
It is a fact that City have spent significantly more than Liverpool and do have a better squad. Liverpool are currently 2 points off top after a tough run of games while not playing that well.
Imagine playing well and having nothing to show for it. This team will click soon, it's too good not to.
There is no guarantee of a trophy in a season but that does not make Klopp a failure as has been suggested by some posters earlier today.




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08 Nov 2018 09:32:18
Tactics and formations change by the game, they also change during a game, there are a number of factors why Liverpool are not scoring as many goals.
The front 3 are not playing that well together yet, but I am certain that will change in time. The midfield would have ideally included Keita, who is going to massively improve us, but again it's going to take time as he's been injured and likely needs time to adjust.
Also Ed01 has highlighted the fact it was the World Cup in the Summer, many of our players have not had a good break at the end of last season and very little pre season training for this season.
Our forward 3 were all involved in the world cup, so maybe it is about conserving energy rather than going high energy press like last season.
I know the Euro game was terrible but we are unbeaten in the league, have far more points than we did at this time last season. Even our recent draws, are arguably good results, Arsenal away, Chelsea away, Man City home. At some point those teams will play each other so we get the chance to gain points on them.
Lets see where we are in the new year, could well be top of the league.




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07 Nov 2018 20:26:29
Agreed on Shaqiri Ed01, I was not criticizing Klopp but pointing out that he has addressed the midfield problems in the Summer.
The new players need time to settle into the team and system which could take months or even most of the season.
It just needs time not panic buys in January.