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18 Jul 2018 11:22:56
SKY Sources in Italy: The €75m deal of Alisson Becker to #LFC is near completion. [DiMarzio].


1.) 18 Jul 2018 11:36:38
If we get him this would be some defence lad's.


2.) 18 Jul 2018 12:00:59
Barry, I agree 50%. We have making of a good defence with TAA, VVD and Robbo. Lovren is great on his day but partial to a mindfart. Matip isn't good enough, like wise clyne and Moreno.

Baz.


3.) 18 Jul 2018 12:29:41
Just like Fekir, deals can take a u turn at any point
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. just yet.


4.) 18 Jul 2018 12:29:57
Let's just wait and see boys. Hopefully the addition of a top class goalie will make everyone more comfortable and sure things up defensively. I think the addition of Fabiano will be a big help in front of that back four too.


5.) 18 Jul 2018 12:30:19
It's not looking too good for Bogdan future at LFC at the moment lol
But it's great show of ambition by the club. I think we are going to get Fekir as well and we all done
Can't really wait for the new season
#ynwa.


6.) 18 Jul 2018 13:05:59
Fabinho!


7.) 18 Jul 2018 13:38:21
Baz, surely by that logic, you agree 80%? 4/ 5?

Medred, I think he already knows, in his digs in Hibs!


8.) 18 Jul 2018 14:11:46
Jeez, Alisson AND Fekir and we have the best first eleven in the PL.


9.) 18 Jul 2018 15:00:59
Yes Fabinho. Ducking auto correct!


 

 

17 Jul 2018 16:29:49
Well, Well, Well.

Sky Sports: Liverpool have DENIED making a 70m euro bid for Roma goalkeeper Alisson Becker after reports in Italy suggested the two clubs were in talks.
Sources close to Liverpool have told Sky Sports News that there has been NO bid and NO approach for Alisson.


1.) 17 Jul 2018 16:57:47
Really?!
Some people have absolutely "ZERO" patience

Just cause a "rumour" is floating around, doesn't mean it will immediately happen

It's a rumour, it may or may not.
Get out and enjoy the sun!


2.) 17 Jul 2018 17:06:51
No they haven’t.


3.) 17 Jul 2018 17:11:27
Kopend its raining where i am.


4.) 17 Jul 2018 17:30:44
The key thing with all of these "reports" is the terminology.

"sources close to Liverpool" told Sky Sports they have not bid for Alisson.


Sky Italia reported:

"Gianluca Di Marzio of Sky Sport Italia is reporting that Alisson is “close” to a move to Merseyside.

Il Messaggero reported this morning that the Liverpool offer would be €60m plus €10m in bonuses, with Sky's Fabrizio Romano confirming a total €70m offer. "

Nothing is direct from Liverpool here.

So let's just wait and see.


5.) 17 Jul 2018 17:32:47
Get the slip and slide out?


6.) 17 Jul 2018 17:40:24
You heard it here first straight from the horses mouth neeiiiggghhh.


7.) 17 Jul 2018 18:08:29
I don't see any comment from the Edds so it a no!


8.) 17 Jul 2018 18:20:31
there are plenty of journos close to lfc that haven't rubbished it but posted it themselves. bbc are pretty reliable and don't publish unfounded rumours. i imagine with courtois close to RM. lfc have finally made a move with roma realising LFC won't pay 75m. RM not interested. Alison prob not interested in europa.


9.) 17 Jul 2018 18:22:15
Be sad to see Klopp lying to the players again with Ward and Karius been told to fight for 1st. Regardless of the quality of karius and what not.
I'd like to see Ward a bit more!


10.) 17 Jul 2018 18:32:48
This story will drag on a while methinks. Personally, I don’t think we’ve bid. If we were to move for a number one, he would be the best choice but that’s purely basing it on what most people say here. That he is spectacular. I only saw him in Cl and World Cup but that’s hardly enough to make an educated decision.


11.) 17 Jul 2018 18:44:20
Where's the interview where Klopp tells us Ward is going to be number 1 choice 🤔.


12.) 17 Jul 2018 21:41:26
Reusch, the Ed’s have previously mentioned that he has told ward and Karius they are both fighting for the no1 spot.


 

 

17 Jul 2018 16:29:49
Well, Well, Well.

Sky Sports: Liverpool have DENIED making a 70m euro bid for Roma goalkeeper Alisson Becker after reports in Italy suggested the two clubs were in talks.
Sources close to Liverpool have told Sky Sports News that there has been NO bid and NO approach for Alisson.


1.) 17 Jul 2018 16:40:10
Ive read that too, don't remember all the shouting though.


2.) 17 Jul 2018 16:40:36
Keeping the betting market open for punters to take a shot on chelsea.


3.) 17 Jul 2018 16:49:24
Carragold you nailed it mate.


4.) 17 Jul 2018 16:58:50
They also claimed we ended interest in Keita last season and would not sign him at all look how that changed.


 

 

17 Jul 2018 14:56:43
Sky Italy: Liverpool in talks to sign Roma and Brazil goalkeeper Alisson [Kaveh Solhekol]

Liverpool have overtaken Chelsea on the race for his signature - AS Roma waiting for a last effort from Liverpool to match the €75M price tag, current offer at €70M.

Let's hope we get this done!
Fingers Crossed!


1.) 17 Jul 2018 15:15:52
James Pearce, Chris Bascombe and Neil Jones all confirmed that we made a bid of 62m GBP.

I've been watching Allison play in CL and WC, don't see him much of an upgrade to Karius but he certainly has the confidence and distribution that Karius doesn't have.

When we spent 75m GBP on VVD, boy did he transform our defense with his Rolls-Royce display. Allison seems to have the Rolls-Royce swag about him.


2.) 17 Jul 2018 15:38:46
Holy crxp Batman.


3.) 17 Jul 2018 15:42:14
Bbc confirm the 62m bid.


4.) 17 Jul 2018 15:52:29
If we sign him I think I'm legit going to go into cardiac arrest! Fingers crossed!


5.) 17 Jul 2018 15:52:32
Alisson is class, top top class. I really hope we sign him but hold your horses everybody, nothing is done until it's done. I love the news but let's not forget the Fekir situation a few weeks ago, it was done and then it wasn't etc etc. Let's keep our fingers crossed for this one and see what happens.


6.) 17 Jul 2018 16:09:05
Shocked to see offer for Alisson, I wondered if that's the money gone for Fekir!


7.) 17 Jul 2018 16:42:40
Red_Ed_88 I think we're more in need of a quality goalie than another midfielder so you could be right. Although I do have my doubts about Alisson, especially for that price.


 

 

11 Jul 2018 22:47:09
David Maddock; "Fekir met Lyon president at World Cup - pleaded for chance to still join LFC. Aulas agreed to revive talks. @LFC no interest in deal on previously agreed £53m terms, may be persuaded by restructured terms. @OL lining up Ziyech as potential replacement"

Fingers crossed on this one!


1.) 11 Jul 2018 22:53:44
Steer clear of players who have suffered acls.


2.) 11 Jul 2018 23:00:10
I've read this myself fingers crossed 👍👍.


3.) 11 Jul 2018 23:34:42
He will be a Liverpool player by the end of the window.


4.) 11 Jul 2018 23:44:16
Who is this David Maddock geezer, is he just another ITK who’s not ITK?


5.) 11 Jul 2018 23:52:13
Imagine wanting Shaqiri but not Fekir 🤦‍♂️.


6.) 11 Jul 2018 23:53:55
There have been players who have recovered and played well after an ACL, And he is one of them. I understand the payment structure wanting changed for risk purposes because that's the club trying to hedge their bets but if klopp believes in the player we should take him, if he was unfortunate enough to get another ACL injury he's young enough still to get over it imo. How has his fitness been since he came back from it?


7.) 12 Jul 2018 06:59:03
Lol Yankee Red, I know mate, you couldn't make it up!


8.) 12 Jul 2018 10:19:33
Van nistelroy (spelling) had an ACL the year he was meant to join united. he seemed to recover well enough. the technology they have now as long as the healing process, physio and then strengthening of the muscle around the knee is all A1 then the knee will be good as new.


9.) 12 Jul 2018 10:21:08
Only about 10% of players who have ACL surgery have a reoccurrence, the majority come back just as strong as they were before and have no higher risk.

Just look at Shearer, Xavi, Pires, etc.


10.) 12 Jul 2018 12:11:14
its not the reoccurrence that is the problem. its that they are never the same player again. lose their pace. that list is endless.


11.) 12 Jul 2018 13:45:42
but fekir had his best year yet after his ACL?


 

 

 

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23 Jul 2018 10:35:20
Here the wrap-up of the whole Nabil Fekir saga. A recap on what’s happened and what I think is going on.

Firstly, I think the transfer is very much 50/ 50 in respects to likelihood of completion. When I think about the chain of events, I think it’s worth reviewing the process given that there appears to be a clear stance being taken by both sides in the negotiation.

If we go back to basics, LFC do not make offers for players unless they are nearly certain they are committed to joining the club. Fabinho, Keita, VVD, Alisson, Ox - all the work was done before the bid went in. Convincing the player and working with their agents.

This manifested itself in Ox turning down Chelsea. In VVD only wanting to move to LFC despite Man City interest. Keita holding out for us over Barcelona and Bayern. Why? Because we’ve put so much groundwork in to selling LFC to them as a project, to develop their careers.

So the logic prevails that we’d done all of this with Fekir. He was our main attacking target this summer and albeit for the medical, everything was set up for him to arrive for the best part of £50M. I think the results of the medical were a surprise to LFC.

But maybe not everyone is aware that during that fateful 48 hours, Barry Hunter flew out to meet with Fekir / his reps and effectively renegotiated the contract on offer. Clearly the full details of this haven’t been disclosed but from what I’ve heard it was to restructure it.

To the extent that I would guess the proportion of payments based on appearances or certain targets was amended. Given how strongly incentivized our contracts tend to be, this is just good business sense.

The rumour is that Fekir was so sold on LFC that his renegotiation with the player’s reps was no issue and he wanted the deal done. The sticking point was Aulas and Lyon who clearly want the highest amount possible for their captain and best player.

And contrary to reports, I think that we went back to Aulas with a new bid. A low bid is my guess. Perhaps in the realms of £30M which Aulas might have seen as insulting for a player of Fekir’s quality but what we felt was fair given the risk involved in the transfer.
This lead to Aulas effectively stating that LFC had lost their minds and weren’t being fair to him. A perfectly reasonable response when you think your player is worth £50M. We also don’t know how LFC intended to structure the payments.
And given the tight timescales ahead of the World Cup, it feels like both parties felt reasonably comfortable just giving the whole thing space. From Aulas’ perspective, a strong World Cup would encourage other suitors but also increase the player’s value.
The issue here being, LFC had done such a good job in convincing Fekir that the player only had eyes for LFC and that of course Fekir played about 30 minutes in the World Cup.

No other clubs are coming forwards because Fekir has told Aulas that it’s LFC or no one. Remind you of anyone? VVD? Keita? Ox? Strong negotiating position for LFC.
LFC aren’t going to rush as they know this. They know Fekir won’t be starting the season anyway and put a lot of emphasis on ensuring new signings are well settled in personal and professional surroundings before playing. Fekir wouldn’t play for us until September at the earliest no matter when the transfer was completed so why panic? We have until the 9th August to agree a deal with Aulas.

So fast forward to today and Aulas keeps talking about his captain. “It’s up to Fekir. ” “We expect he’ll stay. ” Of course you say this because it puts the onus on the player to make the move. It puts the emphasis elsewhere.
If no other clubs come in for Fekir (which is unlikely if Michael Edwards has done his usual job with Fekir’s reps) then Aulas has a decision - sell to LFC or keep Fekir.
The key here is does Fekir kick up a fuss? VVD put in a transfer request which didn’t work. Keita didn’t kick up a fuss. Neither did Ox. That doesn’t mean that he won’t discuss it with Aulas.
Fekir’s camp = stay calm. Aulas will blink at some stage. LFC’s camp will be in constant comms with Fekir’s Team saying that they will probably up their bid or offer a better overall structure but they need Aulas to come to the table.
Who knows? Maybe that’s happening already? It may not go through but I think it’s still open for discussion. LFC don’t invest this much time into a key target and walk away.

Also, I don't think that selling Fringe players is linked to Fekir. I think that's business as usual. Mignolet, Ings, Markovic, Origi.

What strikes me as so interesting is the apparent strong relationship we build with agents. For instance, I can't remember which set of agents it was (maybe Keita's) that sponsored Michael Edwards' charity run recently. That is a strong relationship.

Fekir has 2 years left. Someone else made the point that Lyon either sell now or risk a lower fee next season, or even worse, him getting injured and worthless.
I think we hold the cards here

Hope we see Fekir in Liverpool Red this summer but regardless of what happens we need to support Klopp and his decisions.

By the time you have finished reading this post things might have changed. lol


- TheRedKop.


1.) 23 Jul 2018 11:44:57
Interesting read.


2.) 23 Jul 2018 12:00:30
Reports breaking today that Lyon have offered him a new contract today. Guess his decision one way or another will determine whether he moves this year or not.

I really don't see it happening unless the club are confident of moving a few on.


3.) 23 Jul 2018 13:52:38
Klopp will wait if needed, like you say, Fekir is set on us as a team by the sounds of it so there is no need to rush. We don't need him in our team right now, obviously it would be nice but I think it would just be the icing on top.

The fact that we could have signed him for around £50mil makes me laugh at Everton though, that's how much they are paying for Richarlison and Sigurddson lol.


 

 

19 Jul 2018 12:58:37
Regardless of how fans feel about him being first choice, Karius is a top class backup for Alisson and will keep him on his toes.

This is the best goalkeeping situation Liverpool have ever had imo. Just need a new GK coach to complete it.

YNWA.


 

 

19 Jul 2018 12:56:10
Effectively Klopp added a couple of million to Danny Ward's value by "making him Liverpool's number 1" for a few days.

That's business.


1.) 19 Jul 2018 13:30:41
You really think clubs are that daft?


2.) 19 Jul 2018 17:10:34
They buy players off a good world cup, Irish Rover, so I'd have to answer "yes"!


 

 

18 Jul 2018 17:21:58
Some HUGE signings so far this summer mate! A real statement of intent.
We are just a FEKIR away to make it the BEST transfer window of the Premier League era.

YNWA.


1.) 18 Jul 2018 17:46:12
You can’t say that before any of them have kicked a competitive ball. Look at Everton last year, thought they’d be challenging top 4. Yes we had a much better basis, but they may not settle/ gel. Let’s stay positive but not get carried away.


2.) 18 Jul 2018 19:05:03
Yeah but firmame who did the blues have managing those players last year?


3.) 18 Jul 2018 19:26:54
Spot on, Firmane. Everton won the "best transfer of the summer" trophy last season. Their prize? Having Big Scam as manager for the disaster we now know of. Let the players show what they can do first b4 we judge them.


 

 

 

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19 Jul 2018 12:55:30
Effectively Klopp added a couple of million to Danny Ward's value by "making him Liverpool's number 1" for a few days.

That's business.


 

 

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19 Jul 2018 12:09:15
We're losing our number one goalkeeper to Leicester.

From being 3rd choice to being No.1 and now a possible transfer in a matter of few days. Things change fast in football.


 

 

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18 Jul 2018 11:22:26
SKY Sources in Italy: The €75m deal of Alisson Becker to #LFC is near completion. [DiMarzio].


 

 

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09 Jul 2018 19:25:37
Thanks for the info, mate. I hope it's NOT true.


 

 

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08 Jul 2018 13:45:36
Not happening.


 

 

 

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18 Jul 2018 17:23:08
Some HUGE signings so far this summer mate! A real statement of intent.
We are just a FEKIR away to make it the BEST transfer window of the Premier League era.

YNWA.


 

 

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15 Jul 2018 18:27:04
Very well said, MSMP.


 

 

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12 Jul 2018 20:23:18
Thanks Ed001 for this. Much Appreciated!

{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}


 

 

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11 Jul 2018 22:21:47
Agree with you Ed0333, Lovren's attitude towards the game is immense. The guy gives his 100% every time. Only if he could avoid the lapses and be more consistent.

{Ed0333's Note - hopefully this will be his super duper season.


 

 

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11 Jul 2018 22:32:02
Henderson was Awful tbf. Couldn't deliver when it mattered the most.