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22 Jul 2018 12:31:28
What is likely to happen with Meyer? Who has shown serious interest / opened talks with his agent (Asking here as he has been linked to Liverpool).

Tom27

1.) 22 Jul 2018 13:22:47
From what I've heard his wage demands are too high for most clubs to be interested.


2.) 22 Jul 2018 14:42:16
was his wage demands £4m a year if so does not seems too high in this day and age. about £77k a week or is that just paper talk like that's why people don't want him.


3.) 22 Jul 2018 15:07:24
Think it was double that last i read grino. 8million his demanding.


4.) 22 Jul 2018 15:53:40
Never seen him play so no idea if he's any good or not but if he's a £30m player then getting him on a free with high wages doesn't seem too bad. If he's just a £3m player then it's a bad deal.

{Ed002's Note - What do you men by "free"? Signing on fee, 5% of valuation to The FA, agent fees, payment to compensate Schalke, tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable, tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable, Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches (what do you mean you have a super agent?), legal fees, VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable, moving/relocation costs for the player, VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable. And then there are his outrageous wage demands.}


5.) 22 Jul 2018 16:33:13
If these are the costs involved for a so called free transfer, then the amount Can must have cost to Juventus is beyond my imagination.

Let alone be for signing a player from certain club.

{Ed002's Note - They don't have to pay all of these costs but ceratinly signing on fee, agent fee, legal fees relocation costs - but his wages are far lower than what is being asked by MM.}


6.) 22 Jul 2018 19:39:28
I still expect him to sign for a premier league club, but I'd think it'll be more along the lines of West Ham or Palace. I also think it happen late as he'll start to learn that he'll have to drop his wage demands if he wants anyone to sign him.


7.) 22 Jul 2018 20:59:22
Do we see us going for him if he reduces his wage demands (in case nobody is ready to pay high wages)?

{Ed002's Note - To replace?}


8.) 22 Jul 2018 21:09:58
Ed002 by 'free' I meant that we wouldn't be giving a club £30m or so just to buy him. I'm well aware of all the other stuff that accompanies a so called free transfer.

{Ed002's Note - So who will be moved on to make room for him?}


9.) 22 Jul 2018 21:50:20
No idea Ed002, my only musing on the matter was whether he'd be a decent acquisition on a 'free' if you go back to my original comment.


10.) 23 Jul 2018 07:33:59
No transfer fee say 20 million.

Maybe sell one day even for 12 mil will negate most of those costs.

So eventually be a free is what it should be called.


11.) 23 Jul 2018 07:37:45
Why would a player be a good addition, if he's not replacing anyone in the squad? That's just stockpiling for the sake of it surely and will lead to more club debt and unhappy player/ s.


12.) 23 Jul 2018 09:07:40
Love how hot under the collar ed2 gets when people talk about frees and transfer fees in general- Iv learned a lot from you though mate. I didn’t realise about all the hidden costs of every transfer. Even been passing on the knowledge to one of my mates who saw an article and based purely on official transfer spend and all income it reckoned we had another 200mil after Allison to spend on transfers. I informed him it was utter bullsh*t but some people actually believe that shit! Dread to think what we’ve spent on agent fees alone this summer- never thought I’d type these words but I agree with Gary Neville (sorry- give me a second) agent fees should be limited and the FA should impose a tax on them as a way of getting money back into game from these thieves!

{Ed002's Note - Last season Liverpool paid £27M in agent fees.}


13.) 23 Jul 2018 12:24:41
Sport agent to established players must genuinely be the best job in the world.


14.) 23 Jul 2018 14:21:02
Meyer is not good enough for us anymore. He would not get in ahead of Fab, Naby and Hendo anyway and for a squad player, we already have Gini, Milner and Lallana.


15.) 23 Jul 2018 23:53:52
He wants 8mil a year apparently that’s just silly money if he was that good Madrid, Barca, PSG etc would have snapped him up.


16.) 24 Jul 2018 08:44:08
Kloppsboss, how do you work that one out? You say he might cost 20 mil, then sell him at a later date for 12 and it negate most of the costs so he really becomes free?

I mean you’re already 8mil down that way and the fact even after 1 year, you'll be another 8mil down with his wage demands xD

The word "free" is made up to give people false hope. Nothing is ever free in life! (Unless you steal it and never get caught xD)


 

 

16 Mar 2015 17:03:23
Sinclair to Wigan on loan for the rest of the season

Good luck to him, hope it helps continue his development

Tom27

1.) 16 Mar 2015 17:29:01
Ojo is there aswell hope they both run riot


 

 

05 Aug 2014 12:57:25
Eds, is there any update at your end on Moreno? Various news outlets are stating that we are close. With the daily fail even stating that a £16m fee has been agreed. Only really credible source of info out there is from you guys

Have searched for it, but nothing recent on there other than discussions about whether he would up sticks after a few years to Madrid

Cheers

Tom27

{Ed002's Note - As I explained at the weekend, the news from Copenhagen was that Liverpool had changed their offer again to cash plus Suso.}


1.) Is that suso on loan or permanent ed?

{Ed002's Note - I understand a loan with an option to buy.}


2.) Great. Suso looks good in the preseason games.


 

 

21 Jul 2014 14:46:24
Hi Ed, Quick one for you. I read today online (can't say if the source is reliable or not as never heard of them before) that Chelsea were planning on hijacking our potential deal for Lovren. Do you know anything about it? Are they interested in him?

Thanks

Tom27

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of this.}


1.) 21 Jul 2014 15:24:37
Cheers Ed


2.) Thanks mate. Phew!


 

 

 

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05 Feb 2016 06:32:03
Hi eds I posted a question on here last night about the pan European league and how it will all work but can't seem to find it?

Some other comments allude to it having been discussed? Did it not make it through or did it just attract abuse?

Tom27

{Ed002's Note - I have now answered it - it has been discussed at length before but there has been a change so I redid it.}


1.) 05 Feb 2016 08:47:31
Thanks mate much appreciated.


 

 

04 Feb 2016 22:37:43
Ed2, a question if I may and if you have time. I've read a lot on here about the pan European league but how will it actually all work? What happens to the structure of the national leagues that don't join. Which British teams are up for it etc

Isn't it going to ruin football in some respects? The cost of following your team is going to become astronomical and simply unaffordable for most

Personally I don't like the idea.

Tom27

{Ed002's Note - There are always going to be changes Tom and time is getting close for major changes.

The matter of a breakaway pan-European league remains very much an on-going issue with regular discussions on the matter between a dozen or more clubs.

Without going in to too much detail: (a) A number of clubs take the opportunity to meet and discuss various issues including changes in rules, club versus country issues, television and other media rights, the power of UEFA, exploitation issues for new technology streams, etc.. The meetings were annually but now they happen two and sometimes three times a year. There was a meeting in December – where there was a discussion about the state of FIFA, the situation with UEFA and a so far unpublished claim from a retired referee that the result of a Champions League game was influenced by a third party. These discussions also always turn to the possibility and structure of a breakaway pan European league. Several are ex-G14 clubs, several are not, and some clubs decline involvement in such discussions. (b) The plan is that at some point a number of clubs would break away from their national leagues and UEFA. They accept that they would be banned from all existing club competition and the players would initially be banned from all FIFA competitions as well, but know that FIFA would be looking to negotiate in any case. It would be the end of UEFA in all probability and UEFA are very aware of this. It would also result in a restructuring of many of the national leagues. (c) The clubs would renegotiate their television and media rights, rights of distribution via other streams etc.. (d) It remains the greatest fear of UEFA and all major national authorities that one day this will happen – which has resulted in a counter-proposal being drafted by UEFA. (e) Timing wise, two very prominent clubs want it to happen as soon as possible (2018) and they have the support of a third club - but most are looking at 2022 being a good option. A few clubs are looking at 2025 to 2027 and I suspect that could end up as the reality.

There is going to be a counter-proposal backed by UEFA to try and save their own skin which is soon to be tabled. The proposal is to rename and change the format of the UEFA Champions League to make it an elite closed-shop pan-European league with a fixed number of teams – and these would be the same teams every year. It would then require the restructuring of the Europa League and the possible introduction of a lower-tier European competition. Although they have yet to flesh out the detail, on major Football Association has given their support.

If the proposal for a breakaway goes ahead, there is every likelihood that the big money from television, sponsorship etc. would go with a breakaway league. It would completely rupture the operations of UEFA and I would expect it would require national associations like the FA to restructure their leagues. Nobody wants this but it is the eventual consequence I would expect. Initially it could be that there is a single 16 team league with 2 or 3 EPL teams making the initial plunge. If I had to speculate, I would think (1) you might eventually see something like five or six EPL teams leave for two-tier pan European league - but it won't be based on the UEFA rankings; (2) the Premier League would be disbanded as an organisation; (3) the FA would restructure in to two 20 team divisions with lower leagues regionalised as they were many years ago; (4) FIFA would ban all players from the breakaway teams from International football - perhaps rescinding that position to stop FIFA breaking up as well - they don't want further issues but the troubles are not going to go away. I could also see many teams lose their professional status. I would think we are probably 10 years away from any significant move at this time.

I hold a reasonably strong view in terms of the need to restructure football in Europe in any case. For me an eventual a breakaway pan-European league would force the restructuring of many of the national leagues, possibly resulting in a British league with perhaps only a couple of professional tiers and then regionalised amateur leagues below that. Financially I do not see that so many pro sides can be sustained within the sport which, like it or not, will see more and more money going in to the highest levels of the game. Governments will ensure that grassroots sport get funding but everything in the middle (Southern, Northern, Conference, Division 2, Scottish Divisions 1-3, League of Wales will not get the funding needed to continue on any sort of professional basis.}


1.) 05 Feb 2016 09:03:51
Thanks for for the detailed response

Are you able to say which epl sides are pushing for it and / or would be interested in joining the said pan European league? Do you know what lfcs stance on all this is?

Is it fair to say that a lot of this has been brought about from jealousy of the money being plowed into the epl? If I were to hazard a guess I'd bet it was Bayern Munich and psg that are pushing for it sooner as they are bored with the ease of their current leagues and frustrated by the lack of TV revenue etc

As mentioned I really don't like the idea. It pushed football further into being a sport for the rich and prawn sandwich brigade.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not included in any of the discussions.}


2.) 05 Feb 2016 09:24:11
ouch, that was my fear. That will likely to push us into obscurity then. Better enjoy football under the current format whilst it lasts

May have to find a new sport to follow.


3.) 05 Feb 2016 10:09:40
Tom27

even though we are not involved in talks at present, i'd imagine when the time comes we would be involved.

Even though we are struggling at present we are still one of the biggest teams around.

{Ed002's Note - Certainly Liverpool would not be involved if anything happened in the short to medium term but by the like time for any movement things will likely be different at the club.}


4.) 05 Feb 2016 10:10:28
Ed002 - Are there any specific reasons why Liverpool are not part of these discussions. I know Liverpool is not doing well but in terms of revenue it is still amongst the top 10 clubs.
Also, when this league eventually happens, would liverpool be a part of it by any chance?

{Ed002's Note - I am not getting in to any of the reasons why certain clubs are not included - and unless there were changes Liverpool would not be included in the short to medium term.}


5.) 05 Feb 2016 10:18:13
Hey Ed2, Thanks for your post, it's fascinating to read and seems far more inevitable than I realised.

Just to clarify a couple of things:

1. You say Liverpool aren't involved in the discussions but that 5-6 EPL teams may be involved in a closed two-tier league. Do you think it likely that Liverpool would be one of those teams? I assume a team's inclusion would be largely influenced by financial potential and that Liverpool are in a good position in that regard.

2. Is it inevitable that the league will be a closed shop? I would have thought the FA would fight hard for some kind promotion/ relegation system because the value of the English league would plummet without it (or at least plummet less with it) .

3. If the UEFA proposal gains traction do you see the main teams remaining in national football in any capacity (Cups etc) or would it be a complete break away?

4, Finally, do you think a break away league may introduce competitive controls (revenue controls, a salary cap or a draft system for instance) or do you think it will be totally free market? I feel without some financial controls after a short while we'd see the league revert to the haves and have-nots invalidating the reason for the breakaway league in the first place.

{Ed002's Note - 1. You missed the word "eventually". Initially the expectation remains that the three Premier League sides that have been part of the discussions will be involved. 2. It is nothing to do with The FA - that is the point - it will be breaking away from the extant structure. 3. The UEFA proposal makes no change to the national or international organizations - all it changes is the number of teams in the "Champions League" and the fact that there will not be any qualification. 4. It will be the totally free market that many of the clubs want. Initially with the likely 16 teams there will be no "have nots" - the money will be well beyond anything we see now. As I have said this would force the restructuring of many of the national leagues, possibly resulting in a British league with perhaps only a couple of professional tiers and then regionalised amateur leagues below that. Financially I do not see that so many pro sides can be sustained within the sport which, like it or not, will see more and more money going in to the highest levels of the game.}


6.) 05 Feb 2016 11:02:58
Thanks Ed2. Unless I misunderstand the situation (which is quite likely) I hope the UEFA proposal gets adopted. Although Liverpool may eventually join a full break away I think it would be the death knell of domestic football.

In a perfect world I'd like the pan-european leagues to be the top tier with the national leagues becoming the regional leagues that feed it but I expect that's naive.

{Ed002's Note - The clubs at the forefront of this are looking to rid themselves of the restrictions of UEFA so will likely reject their proposals when they make them. UEFA are trying to get buy in from each of the FAs but that will carry little influence with the clubs. UEFA will be able to force their changes but it doesn't impact any breakaway.}


7.) 05 Feb 2016 12:27:28
Ed would teams from the top tier British league be able to gain promotion to the breakaway league or would the breakaway league be like the NFL and NBA with no teams being relegated?

{Ed002's Note - This has been discussed and initially there is no intention of having promotion. Perhaps at a much later date when their is a second tier.}


 

 

23 Dec 2015 09:33:47
An chance of this today please Ed002 mate please:

21 Dec 2015 14:33:56
Hi Ed002. Any chance of a January transfer window summary much in the same vein as the one you recently put up on the Chelsea page. Was a great read

Or have the muppets here been running wild again and we'll need to wait a couple of days as punishment for their idiocy.
Agree1 Disagree0

{Ed002's Note - Remind me in a couple of days and I will do it. }.

Tom27

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps later Tom - I have a lot on today and wives making unreasonable demands.}


1.) 23 Dec 2015 10:29:09
No problem, thanks. Sorry to keep chasing you for it, just looking forward to reading it. Won't mention it again as i bet the last thing you need is me pecking your head for it.


2.) 23 Dec 2015 11:16:52
See everybody! Now unless ed002 is one the tiny minority in the world to be a married lesbian, ed002 is a man! Not a woman!


3.) 23 Dec 2015 12:23:12
What if it's a smoke screen?


4.) 23 Dec 2015 12:46:46
what if it's not their wife making the demand, but wives of those close to them?


5.) 23 Dec 2015 11:52:52
Maybe Ed002 is the husband for the day?


 

 

21 Dec 2015 14:33:56
Hi Ed002. Any chance of a January transfer window summary much in the same vein as the one you recently put up on the Chelsea page. Was a great read

Or have the muppets here been running wild again and we'll need to wait a couple of days as punishment for their idiocy.

Tom27

{Ed002's Note - Remind me in a couple of days and I will do it.}


1.) 21 Dec 2015 16:32:24
Surely it won't be as long as the Chelsea review!?

{Ed002's Note - It is always worth remembering that clubs have scouts looking at specific players but the scouts also attend games on a regular basis. The number of players looked at is large. The level of interest is less so, And the level of "serious" interest is less so still. I could scale it to mention only those that are likely or possibly going to happen if you would rather?}


2.) 21 Dec 2015 16:49:40
To please everyone I think to list everything would be best. Thanks ed.

{Ed002's Note - I will keep it to the level where I have with the others - repeated scouting and declared interest as we know of it.}


3.) 21 Dec 2015 20:29:31
Cheers ed.


4.) 21 Dec 2015 20:57:21
Great thanks ed mate, look forward to reading it. Liked how it ranked the possibility for each position as well . E. g. Player x - v unlikely etc. great that went a bit further into potential summer targets as well

Would love to know what your position was it footy as you certainly know your stuff. Would of said an agent if it wasn't for you complete contempt towards them. Perhaps head scout somewhere. Realise you could never say so will have to remain as one of life's mysteries.

{Ed002's Note - Gentleman adventurer and part time rodeo clown.}


 

 

11 May 2015 20:10:13
Just a post for banter. I know a lot of people on here are calling for Rodgers head, but are we not just being fickle and very impatient ?

Sure he is terrible in the press sometimes, he can be too pig headed at the beginning of the season with the formation he wants us to play, a few transfer disasters etc. but he's a young guy. I've heard people say on other sites they think he's one of the best young managers in Europe.

Perhaps time it what he needs, to grow as a manager. Don't forget how fergie started his Utd career and he's had some shocking transfer blunders (veron, letting pogba go for nothing etc).

I think we maybe being a bit hasty here. At the end of last season I thought our most important signing was to get Rodgers into a new contract

The guy certainly can develop players and I personally just think he needs time and to be given a bit of slack.

Tom27

1.) 11 May 2015 20:18:21
3 years in todays game is not impatient Tom. its a lifetime


2.) 11 May 2015 20:29:50
A lifetime for those who want everything now without looking at the bigger picture Steph.

Red Rum


3.) 11 May 2015 20:35:45
Rodgers has made us finish as high as a guy who broke the La Liga strong hold of Barca and Real Madrid (Benitez) and as high as a very experienced French manager (Houllier).

We had over achieved last season when many hoped at the start of the season for a 4th place finish we got 2nd and this time around we've seemingly got 5th place in an extremely competitive league where money isn't our endless resource.

It's really painful in a footballing sense and frustrating but with the lack of goals this season it was an on going struggle. Rodgers seemingly fixed the rot with a formation change but I think it was always catch up between us and Man United for 4th.

If Rodgers stays then I say be supportive and as a collective support the club, if he goes we will have to be patient with whoever the new manager is when/if they come in. So either way I'll be understanding.


4.) 11 May 2015 20:44:01
I would only boot BR for not having the aura to attract big name players.
This is what Liverpool needs, a commanding figure and Rodgers still has a long way to prove this. In case Klopp was even thinking a little bit to come to us we should go all in for him. Other than that I would probably go for Rafa. The third choice is BR as there is no other manager available who I see taking us forward.
All of you who want him gone please suggest another coach who will take us forward.


5.) 11 May 2015 20:44:16
I do hear you mate, I'm as frustrated by this season as every other fan but sometimes wonder if we are expecting too much too soon.

It took fergue to his 7th season at Utd to win the league. 1st season they were 11th, then 2nd, then 11th again, then 13th, then 6th, then 2nd and then 1st. In the third season he was very nearly sacked for underperformance after finishing 2nd the season before . Sound familiar ??

He also chucked money at players to get back to the top with a few misses along the way.

Hate to use fergie as some kind of inspiration as I hate the guy, but u can't doubt what he achieved when given time and support from the club (albeit it nearly sacked once)

I do think we need stability at the club and another change of manager would be a step backwards.


6.) 11 May 2015 20:50:17
I would agree with you Red-Rum if there if there was an improvement over the course of 3 years. I simply do not see any


7.) 11 May 2015 20:54:07
3 years.

year one - had to completely change the way the team played and get rid of a lot of duds.

year two - give us the ride of our lives and went within a whisker of doing the impossible, in style.

year three - had to rethink the whole thing after a poor start and loss of a 50 odd goal partnership. Will finished where most independant observers would have expected us to.

Do people think we should win just because we are Lfc, we don`t have the quality of players the top 4 have, and last year when we had, we nearly won it ?


8.) 11 May 2015 20:53:28
Personally i don't care what Rodgers comes out with in his press conference and neither did any other poster until ed002 highlighted his "foot in mouth syndrome" and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. that's their choice I guess. I do think that what his team does on the pitch is another different matter. We should have been in the top 4 this season at the expense of Utd. For that there is no excuse. Suarez was sold, he spent the cash and cocked it up. He has to go, but who takes over? I honestly can't suggest one manager that it is possible for Liverpool to get that will make the difference. That is FSG's job and their advisors. They only need to get one thing right and the rest falls into place.


9.) 11 May 2015 21:01:59
No red rum we can all see the big picture mate in three seasons we have not had one full good season we have had two part seasons were played well then blew it and his signings have been poor to say the least Lambert to play in a side that's counter attacking team just never made sense Allen Borini Baloteli my word they are just not good enough to wear LFC shit and am afraid Rogers no good enough to manage LFC he is no fergie and that's a fact


10.) 11 May 2015 21:05:56
Fergie got very lucky with the crop of you he had scholes gigs becks ect from the youth team

Ibe sterling sinclair flanno I see some resembles


11.) 11 May 2015 21:06:08
Begball makes a fair point, I just hope a decision is made early in the summer so we can plan for the new season.


12.) 11 May 2015 21:03:20
What do u think ed1 mate please if your about. I know you've been a big advocate for getting shot

I think if given time and it pays off we will have a great manager for many years. Wouldn't go as far as saying for life as I know of his desire to go to Spain at some point

{Ed001's Note - he has taken the club backwards, why give him more time? So he can completely destroy it? He is not and never will be a manager, he is out of his depth, completely and utterly out of his depth. He has had 3 years and has shown no progress whatsoever. He is not strong enough, not smart enough and is too indecisive. When everyone can see a way of playing is failing miserably, he insists on persisting with it for far too long. He is too busy spouting meaningless mumbo jumbo to boost the player's confidence, instead of actually analysing the performance properly. It is all very well being positive, but if you are so busy being positive you aren't spotting the negatives then those negatives will persist and get worse. He doesn't spot the negatives until after everyone else is screaming about them, that is not good enough. A manager should spot them before they become a problem and work on negating them before the opposition can target them. Instead we have a man who just carries on with the same thing week after week, long after it has become ineffective.}


13.) 11 May 2015 21:35:42
The only one I see being fickle (i.e. statements/opinions that change frequently) is Rodgers who before the season started said he expected us to challenge for the title, in January said we were never going to challenge for the title but were going to fight for top 4 and then a few weeks back said we were never expected to get top 4.

Granted what managers say to the press is generally pointless drivel, but it's harsh to call fans fickle when the manager changes his tune constantly based upon circumstances. As for impatient, 3 years seems plenty of time to have an informed opinion.


14.) 11 May 2015 23:34:19
We are not fickle nor negative. Many of us just refuse to buy his BS and media Mumbai jumbo as theEd put it in the media. I don't care what I am told. Why? because I have my own eyes to see what is going on and make dorm an opinion based on that. It's called the Eye Test in American sports. If what you are saying does not mesh with what I am seeing, then you have failed the Eye Test. BR does not pass that test because he talks a whole lot of rubbish and drivel in the media about how nothing is ever his fault, Suarez left and Studge was injured (like he did not know these events would happen), buys a whole bunch of players we don't need and plays them out of position and complains they are not good enuff. Then he trashes the owners for not providing cash for star players yet he doesn't or can't buy them when they provide said cash. Utter Rubbish! He's had three years and still nothing but deflection and buck passing with no trophies and 215m wasted. How long do you want him to get as the Ed asked? Till we go broke or into administration? He has failed and needs to go. If I had another three years and 80m to give a manager next season, it should certainly NOT be given to this guy.


15.) 11 May 2015 22:39:56
Thanks Ed, of course I respect your opinion and hope you only see this as a healthy debate .

But I come back to my point about him being an inexperienced manager but a good coach. I thought we progressed remarkably well last season when we finished 2nd. Yes we were terrible defensively but we were something else going forwards , so exciting to watch. A big step forward from the previous 3 / 4 seasons.

We certainly have gone backwards this season but a lot of that has got to do with Suarez leaving and Sturridge being injured. Without a doubt he blew the money we had to spend in the short term (I say short term as I have hope for Lallana & markovic in the longer term). But how much of that was entirely his fault ?

Would he not learn from these mistakes and mature as a manager because of it ?

I can honesty see both sides of the argument but come back to a very good point made earlier by someone else . Who else could we get that would be an improvement ?? Sorry but I certainly don't agree with Benitez being our saviour !

{Ed001's Note - the manager had money to spend and chose to waste it, so there can be no excuses regarding no Studger and Suarez. He chose to scrap the deal for Remy, dithered on Bony and other players, and then tried to force Borini out of the club when he wanted to fight for his place. He was the one that was so desperate for Origi, even though he knew any deal would be contingent on him staying on loan this season. Sorry but the Suarez and Sturridge stuff is an excuse for his ineptitude in the market. When you spend over £100m in one window and you still can't sort the team out, then you should be sacked.

What sign has he shown that he is learning anything? Everything I see shows that he is making more mistakes, that he is getting worse rather than better.

An improvement would be any manager who does not waste money on a huge amount of players when we only needed 3 or 4. A manager who targets players for the positions we have gaps in, rather than signing players for the positions we were already overloaded in. Any manager who can't find a centre back pairing from 10 centre backs that works, to the point where you end up putting in a midfielder has a problem. A manager that sends out a right back on loan, flogs another one on the cheap and has to then sign a far worse one on loan for a significant fee has no sense whatsoever. And don't get me started on alienating players that want to play for us, while persisting in making inane idiotic comments about a lazy useless player that he then keeps throwing on the pitch with no plan about how to use him.

Sorry but Rodgers has shown no tactical awareness, no sense of any kind of forward planning, no ability to manage the staff at his disposal and no sign of learning from his innumerable mistakes. It is time to look elsewhere, to someone who can actually formulate a plan and act on it, but with the sense to know when it is time to change it, rather than persisting well after it is obvious that other teams have worked it out.}


16.) 12 May 2015 04:14:52
Im not that great at articulating what i think, but Edd, you must have been in my brain because your last 2 posts are truly spot on!
This buy is taking our club no where. There would have to be atleast 10 times in the last 3 years where he has said something stupid where he shouls have been sacked on the spot! All the supposed dead wood players that were at the club when he took over have been replaced with worse dead wood ten fold. When he first took over, he stated that he should only be judged on his team when he brings in HIS OWN PLAYERS. Well. Be judged you are now buddy. The tipping point has been and gone. Get rid!


17.) 12 May 2015 07:20:44
I don't think we've gone backwards in 3 years. We've improved without doubt.

{Ed001's Note - in what way? Do we have a better squad with more balance? If so why are so many players having to play out of position each week? Are we playing better football? If so why are we so woefully poor in almost every game this season, at times it is like we have Hodgson back in charge some of the dross being served. Are we going to win any trophies? In what way have we improved? Other than in keeping Sly in soundbites from the manager....}


18.) 12 May 2015 08:15:35
But no one was saying any of this at the end of last season, that's what I mean by being fickle

I still come back to, yes I agree he has flaws, but who is available that is any better ? The only guy I would want is klopp

I just don't want another season of 'transition'. I believe Rodgers should get one more season. I believe him when he said that this season will make him a better manager


19.) 12 May 2015 08:44:42
I hope FSG have picked up on the same things you have said Ed001.


20.) 12 May 2015 18:36:17
Those referring to last season (or at least the 2nd half of it) as to why we should keep BR is the very reason people at other clubs belittle us and our club as constantly living in the past in order to justify today`s acceptance of failure and mediocrity. BR is a failure and needs to go.


 

 

 

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05 Jul 2018 14:19:07
Poor guy I feel sorry for Karius. He was doing well up until the final and had shocker yes but that can happen to anyone. Look at De Gea for Spain (yet everyone still classed him as one of the worlds best.

I do think we should upgrade don’t get me wrong but if we can’t get the guy we want, we wait until we can. Karius is still a decent keeper and I think with our midfield improved significantly he should be called up less

I just hope to god he doesn’t read this site. What happened to YNWA? Embarrassed to be a Liverpool fan at times.

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09 Jun 2017 13:24:54
These clauses in employment contracts are notoriously difficult to enforce as it can be ruled as being a restriction of trade. I know that I've experienced issues trying to enforce one when an employee has left to go to a competitor. Has a club / player ever tried to challenge it on these grounds?

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06 Oct 2016 23:48:24
looking on the Physio Room website it states Lovren and Clyne are back on the 17th Oct, Gomez on 29th Oct and both Lallana and Ojo unknown (always assumed that means that the extend of the injury hasn't been confrimed yet)

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05 Aug 2016 19:56:38
He's a right back isn't he? As in his natural position. More of a clyne replacement for me . We still need a left back but the right one and not just a panic buy, even if that means in a future transfer window (although please god no! )

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07 Jul 2016 18:04:03
Skirtel the tirtle I always called him. Fair play to the lad, was brilliant with Agger at times (under benitez) and scored some great goals (like when we destoyed arsenal) Good luck to him. Thanks for your efforts.

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09 Jul 2018 11:32:56
Can’t add anything to the ones ever so I’ll do it on current squad. Best surprise either robbo or the ox and let down Clyne. Only ever watched him occasionally on motd and you can see why he’d look half decent on a highlights reel. Good pace and only ever saw the 1 out of a 100 crosses that were decent

You could argue salah although I was excited when we signed but never imagined he would be this good.

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02 Jan 2018 11:02:27
Mascara . mascherano perhaps? Only guessing. The others seem obvious as coutinho going and Virgil (thunderbirds) vd.

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19 Aug 2016 22:35:02
From what I can gather (never worked in football but am an accountant) - They don't treat players as investments as such, more as assets. The transfer fee paid (and possibly other associated costs) are added to the balance sheet and depreciated over the life of the contract.

This hits the p&l along with the players wages each year (plus any transfer costs that can not be capitalised in the first year) . If a player is sold they take the sale price less the net book value of the player (amount paid less amount depreciated to date) plus any associated costs (agents fee etc) and put that through the p&l as a profit / loss. I presume if a contract extension is agreed the useful life of the asset is extended.

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17 Aug 2016 22:42:30
I really don't know how they get away with it in such a highly regulated industry, surely it's effectively insider trading I. E. Releasing information to affect the market.

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30 Jun 2016 22:16:06
My god the negativity. One of the primary reasons I was so thrilled about us signing klopp was his ability to buy cheap and develop world class players. His record of it is pretty impressive . Give the guy a chance guys.

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