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12 Aug 2017 03:27:35
Hi Ed's, a very good morning.
Would Barcelona be willing to include sergi Roberto in a deal for pipco? Is he on the surplus list? More importantly would the forces at liverpool be interested in player+cash kind of deal?
Thank-you for you kindness in this unkind transfer window.


{Ed002's Note - He is not on the surplus list but the clubs interested in him have had little luck getting Barcelona to talk. Liverpool has shown no interest to date.}

1.) 12 Aug 2017 09:15:07
Pipe dream unfortunately. After Messi, Suarez, Busquets, Iniesta, Pique and Alba I would say Roberto is probably the next best they have. He is a really classy midfielder and not a bad right back either.

2.) 12 Aug 2017 09:29:44
I get a feeling that any player on Barca's surplus list to be included in a deal would be an above average yet nothing special player, which makes the whole idea of it unappealing.

3.) 12 Aug 2017 09:30:45
That team is slim pickings IMO apart from top two and pique.
Maybe Gomes and Ter Stegen + 80million and then we could maybe talk.

I also find it hard to believe that they wouldn't come back.
Real probably will if not as Phil is knocking on the door of best in CAM in world for me. A season in champions league and people start to take seriously.

Question for Ed02: Have Liverpool been aggressive enough in pursuit of players this transfer window? Do you think if we'd have put money where our mouth is we could've got things do for targets?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has gone about the transfers in the entirely wrong way - but it is nothing about money.}

4.) 12 Aug 2017 10:32:18
Did I just read "has Liverpool been aggressive enough this window? "
Only way they could have been more aggressive is if VVD and NK where bundled into the boot of Klopps BMW and driven to Melwood.

{Ed002's Note - He has a KR200 - there is only room for one of them. }

5.) 12 Aug 2017 10:41:17
Should have looked outside the club for a sporting director promoting from within where a culture of incompetance has been prevelant for years just breeds more err incompetance . we have seen more of the same this transfer window. they should burn that rick parry guide to doing transfers.

6.) 12 Aug 2017 10:46:39
Why majorly weaken our team selling a player with years of contract when we can keep him, get a good year out of him and sell him for AT LEAST the same price judging by how transfers are rising year by year. its the same as Liepzig (why have no want or need to sell the player and we don't need the money) .

7.) 12 Aug 2017 13:38:16
8;minutes and our defence exposed. We are such a good team, something really needs to be done with our defence. Vvd as soon as. It'll be embarrassing but not as embarrassing as losing to mediocre teams.

8.) 12 Aug 2017 14:03:41
Ed, sorry couldn't find new post icon. Any idea why we didn't move for Joe Hart? It seems mad as we were the only team at the top he could've gone to bar city. He is surely an upgrade on what we currently have.

{Ed001's Note - because he is crap.}

9.) 12 Aug 2017 14:19:53
Totally agree Eds. The only reason he doesn't get called out on his mistakes is 'cause he's English.

10.) 12 Aug 2017 14:22:12
Didn't Torinos owner come out and say he didn't expect an England goalkeeper to make so many mistakes? Says it all really.

11.) 12 Aug 2017 14:44:44
Fair enough guys. I have to disagree with Steve wonder, England gks have had a hard time over last ten years, Carson Robinson and the other fella all made one mistake and we're dropped forever. I have always felt Hart was over rated but rest of country seemed to disagree. Until the euros where he was crap. What Hart does well is organise and control defence and I feel that is what we are lacking. But I buy that he has lost it.

12.) 12 Aug 2017 17:41:24
Nah it seems like he does superred but he just shouts loudly. Literally I think that is his only trick. Shouting and chest thumping.

13.) 12 Aug 2017 19:09:14
Sergi roberto is such a tidy passer, If we were to take him i would want him in CM, not being put as a rb like Barcelona shifted him out. Would still rather keep couts though.

14.) 12 Aug 2017 20:17:49
Dear Jurgen. we're going to take your star player and you can have anyone off our surplus list.

Yeh right!

15.) 12 Aug 2017 22:37:01
Under FSG, we haven't taken any surplus players as part of big money transfers out. I don't know if FSG think the supporters see such a scenario as Liverpool accepting cast-offs, but the sale of Torres, Sterling and Suarez didn't bring back any players from Chelsea, Man City or Barcelona.

I suspect it will be the case this time too. Why should Liverpool buy players who we don't need?

16.) 13 Aug 2017 07:04:17
@ superred91

losing to mediocre teams?

Last time I checked 3-3 was not a losing score line.

17.) 13 Aug 2017 15:28:23
Red, it sure felt like it was a loss .

18.) 13 Aug 2017 16:01:52
Fair point resend but we were losing 2.1 when I wrote that post and wasn't necessarily talking about watford. Was talking about defence in general.

Yeah, again I thought there were tonnes of positives from watford game.

19.) 14 Aug 2017 14:37:46
If Barcelona want coutinio and they want to offer a player or two in the deal then it has to be one of their top players. Next time they offer rahifina we should send em markovic in no 10 shirt. Don't think the part exchange is going to happen is it? Just psper talk. The first two offers were cash.

I think if we were to do a swap it has to be iniesta. If it truly is a iniesta replacement (pc) then we'll take the replaced player. The fact is, they just want the world's best south America players.



01 Jun 2017 11:02:35
So Mr. Peter moore is the new CEO.
Does it mean we can expect some Transfers FIFA style? I'd buy bale, one future player that goes 97 and one bonucci as i and pretty sure everyone else does when starting with a new FIFA season :P.


1.) 01 Jun 2017 14:13:53
I think that spending large amounts of money on a player has become unfashionable in many fans' eyes. Notably, clubs like City, PSG and the Chinese teams (in particular) are not well-respected amongst football supporters, and as such, a lot would like to see disassociation from these teams in the way that their club conducts its transfer business.

Add to that, there is a shared opinion now that there's something quite noble about spending less money on a player who turns out to be a world beater. Solanke is a perfect example, if he turns out to be a "30 goal a season striker" a lot of fans will respect the fact he cost not a lot and will want their club to do the same. At least that's how I see it. So with regard to Salah, a lot of supporters will be thinking there is some rough diamond out there, who is younger and cheaper. It's a no win situation, because if a club only buys cheap players and those players do not perform, the fans get on the owner's back.



29 Jun 2015 04:49:45
Have city given up on sterling eds? i mean they could buy delph or probably any player they want if it was English quota they were looking at? it has gone rather quiet.


{Ed001's Note - no.}

1.) 29 Jun 2015 09:22:36
We'll probably hear more after July 1st. That date seems to be getting banded about a bit on here for FFP reasons or something.

2.) 29 Jun 2015 10:44:52
What has Delph got to do with Sterling? Just because he's English? I'd say they'd prefer players that are actually good though, they don't need more Rodwells & Sinclairs.



25 Mar 2015 04:12:21
Hi eds,

would we be interested in romain hamouma and max gradel from saint etienne. also one player i higly rate is wissem ben yedder but he seems to move elsewhere .
and i think we spent our money on the wrong belgian kid, world cup hangover it was,


{Ed002's Note - No.}



03 Feb 2015 14:08:34
eds what do you make of wisem bin yedder of tolouse . i got a chance to watch him play in a tolouse game a year back and he was quality . seems like he is doing well this season too. would he suit liverpool ? i don't see why not .


{Ed002's Note - He is likely going to move to Marseille in the summer when Gignac leaves.}




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20 Sep 2017 05:57:48
I think the sad part of being out of carabao is less to no game chances for grujic woodburn solanke and the likes.
Again it has been exposed we are Lacking a plan B of operations, bombed them in first half but nothing happened and then when we went down we were shattered. Its a problem now. I think Leicester Saturday now becomes a massive game.


1.) 20 Sep 2017 07:30:18
Put them in under 23 their not ready for first team.



18 Sep 2017 08:52:53
I don't really think defense is the problem here. I still think not having a striker for games like these is.
Studger is low on confidence and not really sprinting. I believe is we started with Solanke we would have won the game. There were far to many balls crossed in the box by TAA and milner that studger couldn't reach. (read didn't put enough effort to reach)
Also there was some poor decision making in the final third esp by coutinho who never played the right pass and always played it in burnley mix of players.
Yes we conceded a stupid goal as usual but i still don't think over 90 minutes defense was the problem. Our not finishing the chances/ half chances was.
we should have played Bobby central or solanke. Studger got the nod purely on his credentials. solanke would have done more damage. esp with his willingness to fight mee and trachowski. Studger didn't bother challenging their duo.


1.) 18 Sep 2017 09:28:34
Akshit, and how did Spurs and Chelsea and Arsenal who have a true striker do this week? Oh that's it, they fluffed their lines. When we smashed Arsenal and Hoff for fun, did we need a true striker then? Oh cos our boys who have scored goals all over the pitch since Klopp arrived, fluffed their lines in two games, we should have signed a top striker to add to the 5 we already had, right?

We didn't score cos our boys kept hitting and hoping while making poor decisions in the final third. That is where the issue lies and needs improvement. Pls, the "we need a top striker" narrative is becoming tedious and boring. We had a top striker named Benteke and he was a disaster and still is at Palace so sorry, we aren't doing that again.

2.) 18 Sep 2017 09:50:28
No, I'm sorry but it's the defence, has been for years and will continue to be so until we discover a couple of decent centre backs and a keeper.

3.) 18 Sep 2017 09:56:45
Benteke is not a "top striker". Are you Juergen Klopp himself seen as your making the decisions now? We aren't doing that again πŸ˜‚.

4.) 18 Sep 2017 09:57:36
He means offload Sturridge and buy One!

5.) 18 Sep 2017 09:57:39
Bingo your wrong mste you need to play with a striker firmino is a really good player but he is not a cf. Another season of winning nothing may convince you. Liverpool have a great squad but a really poor manager and mark my words you will be coveted In a few months time. Tactically niave and blind to his own shortcomings. With klopp at ghee helm this squad will never reach its potential.

6.) 18 Sep 2017 10:12:01
I agree with akshit.
I was going to write my reasons why but it became a novel, so that's all I'm going to say.
The results and shot stats over the last 5 days speak for themselves, we needed a poacher.
Sturridge isn't at his old level right now and maybe he's not ever going to be.
We don't have a top poacher in our squad.
If we had bought someone like Hernandez in the Summer, we'd have won both of those games on Weds and Sat.
Nearly 70 shots - 3 goals.
When the keeper spilled a shot on Saturday, there was nobody within 15 yards of the goal to tap it into an empty net. The shot was only from about 20 yards and was from a Midfielder (Can/ Milner I believe) .
It was the second half and we were supposed to be desperately chasing a winner. Makes no sense!

7.) 18 Sep 2017 10:22:56
bingo are on roids mate?
when did i say buy new striker, i said we played wrong striker and had we started with solanke we would have more chance at converting the chances which was visible when solanke came on the pitch he nearly won us the game. he was available in the box often in his brief 10 minutes or so more than studger was for 90 minutes.
i don't know wht you are getting at shooting down every poster.
i am saying play the right striker, he should have had bobby or solanke there and not studger. it held us back.

and how does arsenal and chelsea get into the Mix? what are they supposed to do with how we play?
dont just stuff anything out just to prove your invalid point.

It is clear we drew the game because of not being able to take our chances.

8.) 18 Sep 2017 10:25:40
You understand there are more strikers than just Benteke out there right? In fact if I remember right most were against the signing on the basis that his movement and attitude were not that of a top players. Firmino is a very good player much better than I thought but he is not a natural striker.

I understand u would like to pretend all is rosey in the anfield garden but it's not atm. There are glaring holes in your team that need fixing and if Klopp would of kept his mouth shut u might of filled them.

Having said that there are many aspects of your team that is very good. Your speed in transition is prob the best in league if not close.

But it is what it is, u will score many goals but will also concede silly ones to. I've said it for a while, u are a confidence based team, when all is going well u look amazing but when it's not u look shakey and nervous. It's up to klopp to fix that and quick imo.

9.) 18 Sep 2017 11:09:57
Bingo gaining mass supporters on the page πŸ˜„πŸ˜„πŸ˜„.

10.) 18 Sep 2017 11:10:13
Spot on Bingo. We would have to change the system to accommodate a striker. Salah and Mane basically play as strikers with Firmino behind and they score plenty of goals. Between them. As a front 3 they have 12 this season already.

If you put a central striker in there, Mane and Salah would have to switch wings so they are on their crossing foot and they would also have to hold the width which is a waste of both player abilities.

I agree Solanke should've gone on sooner. Burnley sat in and soaked our pressure up too easily. Doesn't change the fact that our normal system scores plenty of goals normally.

11.) 18 Sep 2017 11:18:06
Mk you have won nothing or don't look like winnning anything so yes maybe a change of system is required.
Harry i think bingo is not quite the full houseπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚.

12.) 18 Sep 2017 11:39:13
Why would they have to switch to be on their crossing foot?
Bayern are pretty successful right, Ribery is right footed, plays on the left.
Robben is left footed and plays on the right.
Lewandowski is what I call an out and out Striker and plays most games and yet they all score plenty of goals in this system.
The two formers are older now so not as much as before but still, it's a very workable system.
People complain there's no plan b, well there it is.
Play with an out and out Striker.

13.) 18 Sep 2017 11:44:41
Doesn't have to be every game, but in home matches against teams you expect to beat, it can't bloody hurt.
We consistently struggle against these teams to break them down.
When was the last time we played with an out and out forward?
Garcia played on the right and was predominantly left footed but scored a few.
Babel was right footed and played on the left and he chipped with a few (when he could be bothered) .
Like I said, it doesn't need to be every game but a plan B option.
What's the worst that can happen?
We draw against the likes of Burnley?
Think that's happening already mate.

14.) 18 Sep 2017 11:48:22

Why do you think Mane and Salah needs to change their positions? Firmino is a wonderful player with very poor conversion ratio. What people are asking is not an alien. They demand a player like Firmino + natural finishing instinct. Mane and Salah could just play normal. Why would they need to start crossing the ball? Your idea of a striker must be a Berbatov. A central striker with excellent pace and movement on and off the ball would work wonders alongside Salah and Mane! Salah played excellent alongside a Dzeko at Roma! He had absolutely not problem over there.

That being said I wouldn't drop Bobby for anyone 😎😎.

15.) 18 Sep 2017 11:59:15
Garcia and Babel never broke into double figures though did they. Torres scored about half of our goals, Gerrard broke into double figures by taking penalties and free kicks to top up. Although he did have 1 exceptional season where he scored double figures from open play, and Xabi and Mascharno scored once in a blue moon. We were solid, but we relied on Torres for all the goals and when he was injured, we just used to draw or lose. People have such short memories.

And for the record, when Torres was up front we had Kuyt/ Pennant on the right wing (right footed), and Zenden/ Riera on the left (left footed) . Babel was an impact sub at best and Garcia i don't recall ever playing with Torres for us.

16.) 18 Sep 2017 12:02:01
I still say you win nothing with a weak spine, we are weak in central midfield and weak in central defence and we are shaky on the goalkeeper front. Until those issues are addressed you can mark us down as also rans.

17.) 18 Sep 2017 12:02:57
i will still stick by my original point and say it not our defense that should be major concern. I don't think the defenders we have can defend any better that is the truth as we have seen. no matter what there is uneasiness in our defense and they are hardly supported by the team. our defense is always 4 players who are not very good at it and the midfield isn't helping their cause. so i don't think Klopp can do much about the defense.
What he can do something about is the attack though. it is a very potent attack with variety of options that could be possible
ofcourse there is mane salah and firmino where we can just attack on pace. then there can be mane solanke and salah where there can be crosses. we can also go two upfront out and out with solanke and studger in games like burnley hand have salah and mane/ firmino as LM RM just to have more width and crosses drilled in the centre and many more combinations
we don't even need an immediate signing for our attack unlike our defense.
the thing is we play one way and there is nothing else and teams know how to block us out. and they will continue to do so.

18.) 18 Sep 2017 12:20:07
Akshit has nailed it. Both systems have a time and a place and all Klopp needs to do is figure out when to use different offensive tactics. That doesn't actually require any new players though. We have so many strikers that one is on loan and another is in the u23's with 2 more on the bench most weeks.

19.) 18 Sep 2017 12:13:43
This was in a defensive team though and Garcia did hit double figures a couple of times.
Lets agree that Garcia and Babel are not of Mane and Salah's quality.
If those two played with Torres though, now that would have given us a better idea.
Again, a Hernandez would have scored a couple in the match on Saturday for me.
He might even have nicked us a goal vs Sevilla.
We looked devoid of ideas in the last 15 minutes on Wednesday.
Again, this is where a plan B might work - a top poacher, not Solanke is learning his trade and should not be relied upon right now.
He's more of a target man than poacher in any case in my opinion.

20.) 18 Sep 2017 12:14:07
Harry you clearly have no grasp of how Mane and Salah play, or Liverpool for that matter.

Our main weapon is Firmino. He sits on the defenders toes and then drops deeper for the ball into feet. The centre backs then have a difficult decision. Go with Firmino and leave space in behind which Mane and Salah will run into, or drop off Firmino and let him receive the ball in acres of space to turn and run at them. This system makes Firmino impossible to pick up. If you put Firmino behind a striker, the defensive midfielder will pick him up, the centre backs will mark the striker, and their will be no space in between defenders for Mane and Salah. Hence you need Salah and Mane to stay out wide and work your way forward down the flanks, to get good balls into the box for a striker. The easiest way to do that is switch the wingers back over so they're on their stronger foot, otherwise you end up with the same situation Robben and Ribery started to create at Bayern. They run down the wing, get to the penalty area and then constantly cut inside making them predictable, and they constantly run into traffic.

Don't get me wrong, we would definitely concede less goals because we wouldn't be committing so many player in behind the opposition, but we need to go out and sign a 30 goal a season striker to do what people are suggesting. How have people already forgotten how boring we were under Rafa, and how reliant we were on Torres? The other problem with a 1 man striker system is the one Tottenham have discovered. If you have a 30 goal forward who is undroppable, nobody wants to play second fiddle to that so when your main man gets injured, your back up is a massive reduction in quality! Or have you all forgotten the days when we had to play David N'Gog up front when Torres was missing?

Our system is the best for offensive teams. That is why it is deployed by Barcelona, PSG etc. You just need to accept that we will concede more goals playing this way, and that putting in an out and out striker will actually be detrimental at times to our team.

I fully agree that in certain games and situations, Solanke should be put on to give us a proper striker, but that doesn't mean Firmino doesn't work there. Solanke is a very good future option because like Firmino he is comfortable dropping deeper to receive the ball in to his feet, but also provides more of a target up front. It is nice to have different options though and this pipe dream of us signing a 30 goal striker is exactly that; a pipe dream.

So appreciate what you have.

21.) 18 Sep 2017 12:35:42
We only realistically have Sturridge (who is not what he once was) and Solanke as out and out Strikers.
You cannot tell me that Mane/ Salah/ Firmino are considered to be Strikers can you?
They're not!
Ings is not up to speed.
You have youth prospects but that's it.
We do not have a top Striker in the squad.
A top striker would get you 25 goals in a season.
None of our current players would do that, stop being blinkered.
Mane/ Salah will score goals yes but are not Strikers and they might score just as many with a Striker or maybe more, who knows?
We'd need to try it first to know.

22.) 18 Sep 2017 12:53:06
I don't know if you're understanding what I'm saying.
Where has the false 9 gotten us this season so far?
Forget City away.
A terrible home draw with Burnley, a poor draw away to Watford, a poor draw at home to a weak Sevilla side. A fortunate ricochet pass to Mane for the win vs Crystal Palace. A very good win against a poor Arsenal side.
Is that a good enough start to the season?
No it's not!
It's the same old story, struggle against deep lying defences and beat the better teams.
This is now common place.
So why not employ the usual tactics vs the better teams and go more attacking/ ambitious vs the teams we struggle to beat each time.
There's a very famous saying about failure and insanity:
Doing the same thing over and over again and yet you expect different results.
It is a famous saying and a true saying for good reason mate.

23.) 18 Sep 2017 12:56:08
We'll Mane, Salah and Firmino are all listed on the official club website as forwards so i guess I'd have to agree with that and say they are forwards.

I don't see the point in wasting them behind a striker and sacrificing a midfielder and therefore our ability to press so high.

I don't see the issue with having Solanke and Sturridge as the plan B strikers. Do you really think we can attract better quality to sit on the bench? If we put Firmino in attacking midfield, what happens to Lallana or Coutinho? Because neither of them could play in a midfield 2 and neither will want to be starting on the bench every week.

I like our system and whilst Klopp hasn't got it perfected just yet, i don't really want to go running back to a boring 4-5-1 on a regular basis. Against teams like Burnley i fully agree with putting Solanke up top as a bit of a target in the box, but i really don't understand why people want us to play that way on a regular basis. We are the best team in the league to watch and we have improved under Klopp so why doubt we will continue to improve? i think we will win a trophy this season still so I'm going to keep the faith and give my damning verdicts when our season is over; be that literally or metaphorically!

24.) 18 Sep 2017 12:56:12
You did not get my point either. Firmino doesn't score enough for all the work that's being done and that is a worry while another striker would definitely covert those half chances to full.
I have said Firmino is at his vintage best between defenders where his unpredictable movement makes it difficult for defenders to track his runs.

Mane and Salah are wide forwards who doesn't occupy a position by themselves but depends on the pass the receive they occupy and swap a number of positions.
I have seen Firmino dropping in the middle releasing Mane.
The problem is it will be difficult to fit in both a striker and Firmino in the same team and hence I said in the
Bottom I wouldn't drop Firmino for anyone. But Mane and Salah would work excellent with a world class striker. It could be Firmino or a far more natural goal scorer

Firmino doesn't score enough and that is what we are discussing here.

25.) 18 Sep 2017 13:03:10
Stand and Ken, why do you care what and who we pick? You're mancs so I don't care what you think. Now back to Akshit's post. We don't only play one way as we have played a 4-4-2 diamond last season and even the season before and we won all the games we played it in BUT that is not what Klopp likes to do if all his guys are available as it will stifle Mane and Salah anyway, IMO.

I think MK has responded the same way I would respond and NO, I did not say that you said we should buy a striker. All I'm saying is that, bar prolly Lewandowski, Jesus or Aguero, IMO there is not striker out there who can play our system fluidly as Bobbie plays it cos Klopp does not use wingers. He uses wide forwards who are strikers and go against CB's instead of against FB's. Firmino's skills are perfect for it.

The system is quite simple to grasp as City and Spurs play the exact same way when they attack. Also, Kane and Morata, both of whom I love, did not change a damn thing for their teams this weekend. You know why? Cos like them, we fluffed our lines and did not get it done in the final third. FACT.

Can we move the team around a little bit during the game? Sure BUT that is not the issue here, IMO. That is what happened this week and not the "had we played with a striker" false argument as that is all it is, a false argument. We created enough chances to score a hatful with a penalty not given in the last two games and had we taken our chances, this conversation along with the "Firmino is not a striker" stuff would not be happening.

26.) 18 Sep 2017 13:35:29
Bongo. I have been posting on here for years and do so with great respect.
I rarely if ever refer to my team out of respect i enjoy fair and reasonsble debate and some good hearted banter slagging and craic
As a supporter of one of your rivals i hope klopp keeps his job for another 18 months but i doubt it. Witb another manager and no new players liverpool would be a threat this season because another manager would find a way to protect your awful cb's. Klopp is not the man imo.

27.) 18 Sep 2017 14:18:27
Keep posting here Ken. By all means, all welcome mate. Don't care if you support a rival. Cheers.

28.) 18 Sep 2017 14:36:09
Cheers kev.

29.) 18 Sep 2017 14:40:41
Ken, I know what we are capable of doing as an attacking threat so you have nothing to teach me on that front. Also, that is your opinion but guess what, I still don't care about what a manc has to say so what you think Klopp will achieve or not, or how long you think he will stay or not, is irrelevant to me as I have never cared for Utd nor what they do or don't do. I stand by that and my description as to why a no 9 won't work for us in the way we play and MK Scouser has supported my point with an even better description than I did. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I BUT neither of us are entitled to our own facts. God bless, my friend.

30.) 18 Sep 2017 17:48:26
I do have an issue with this constant theme of we didn't need a true striker when we beat this team or that team, no we didn't but then we didn't need good centre backs when we beat them either. The issue isn't the games we win it is the constant drip of games we draw and lose where those weaknesses are the reason. Poor defending and poor finishing will stop this club winnng trophies. We are relying on guys who are 1 in 6-10 conversion rate at best to do the job of a player scoring every 2 or 3 chances. Great when we batter a team and those players are on song, but when there are less chances or they are on their couldn't score if there til tomorrow mode then it becomes an issue. This is the same situation as bit Benitez and Rodgers, not how good the good days were but the inability to go out and get a job done on the nothing special days against the sides that title winners are beating every time.



09 Sep 2017 14:36:12
Perfectly set up for Coutinho re introduction.
Got thumped by city now we need a response, who you going to call?
Pipcobusters ;)


1.) 09 Sep 2017 14:43:57
Spot on mate! We badly missed a playmaker today. Pep tactics were spot on he fully exploited our weaknesses :/.

2.) 09 Sep 2017 14:51:16
Well that's a wake up call. Why didn't lovren play ed? Was he injured? I'm gutted taa started as I knew city would target him, great player and brave decision to play him but ultimately it was the wrong one.

I think reds fans need to put it in perspective. We not only lost a man we lost our best player. Burnley hammered chelsea in London when chelsea had ten men. Good teams capitalise against ten men. The more we had to push for goals the more open we left it for city.

I still think we will finish in the top four. And I think we will beat city at anfield. I think our players will kick on from this, we need to show top teams respect and in starting taa moreno and klavan we didn't do that.

3.) 09 Sep 2017 15:03:10
Bad day at the office take it on the chin and move on. Respect for Kevin de bryne after match interview.

4.) 09 Sep 2017 19:54:43
Kopite Peps tactics were rubbish we got in behind them for fun before the sending off. I thought we played into their hands after the sending off. I thought it was a mistake for us to go 3 at the back as TAA and Moreno got caught out time and time again and Can is no CB. Salah should've stayed on a pushed onto Otamendi as that was a red card waiting to happen. I do think it's difficult to play our pressing game when they've always got a man spare but in changing formation we allowed them space down the sides and they punished us for it. De Bruyne became the spare man and you give him time and space and he will hurt you and he did. At the end of the day we are not the only team in the top 6 that will go to City and lose we have to dust ourselves off and go again.



07 Sep 2017 05:52:43
With all these posts about coutinho starting this week or not, i wonder if woodburn could get game time, he has had a terrific week with wales, his confidence must be sky high and may be we could see a cameo from him? definitely makes sense to get him on for some real competition.
Might give a taste to coutinho too, he shouldn't be allowed to just walk into the team.


1.) 07 Sep 2017 06:10:43
I'd be happy with Woodburn getting cameo appearances in league games and starting in the domestic cups this season. The issue is the number of senior midfielders in his way right now. Can, Hendo, Gini, OX, Coutinho, possibly Grujic and Milner.
The kid will need to bide his time for now until next season when there will be a clear out of Can, Milner and Coutinho in midfield. Then only will we see how far he can go once he gets a run of games under his belt.

2.) 07 Sep 2017 06:33:59
Really rate Woodburn but against City? For Coutinho? Not good for the kid or for the message it sends Coutinho, we need to build bridges not burn them.

Play starting Hendo, Can and Gini who were on fire against Arsenal, bring Coutinho off the bench for me.

3.) 07 Sep 2017 07:22:23
SG I think it's coutinho that needs to build bridges. But the only way I would give Woodburn a run out is if we are 2 up after 60/ 70mins. Same team that started against arsenal for me.

4.) 07 Sep 2017 07:28:05
to be honest i don't think why we need to mend bridges with coutinho. he wants to go and he will next season. it was he who has been throwing excuses not to play. i don't think it sends the right message to the team if he just gets back in the city game. It is he who has to mend the bridges not the club after the summer fiasco.
Woodburn though has shown quality to be in contention for a cameo. Big games make big players. we have been far shy for far too long with our young players. I think woodburn should be evaluated this season. If we look at him as a potential coutinho replacement we need to look at him this season. Klopp has done it with several young players.
I would love for woodburn to gain experience in the game playing against the likes of de bruyne silva and company even if it is just for a few minutes.
I don't care how world class a player coutinho is.

5.) 07 Sep 2017 08:48:42
Wouldn't start Gini away in this one personally. Not because he doesn't score away usually, we have plenty who will/ can, but we need a little more protection for the defense on Saturday, so I'd actually start Milner for experience or Grujic for his physicality. I know that wouldn't be a popular choice/ decision but we need to keep it tight early at the back. You don't want to be too open too early in this game and be chasing a goal, leaving gaps too early or you'd be run ragged IMO. Who knows, we might blow them away with our attack, exciting game me thinks?!

6.) 07 Sep 2017 08:53:30
I wouldn't involve him this week, do we really need the distraction this week? I'd include Woodburn in the squad however. Confidence must be through the roof.

7.) 07 Sep 2017 10:15:47
Hendo - Can - Coutinho should be our midfield. Anything else and we will be punished by Silva and KDB.
James Milner? Lol David Silva will fool him all noon!

8.) 07 Sep 2017 10:27:26
He can fool Milner all he likes as long as Milner has the last laugh. Like I said, not a popular one, but his experience might be vital. I'd love to try something more aggressive or offensive but City could really punish us if we get it slightly wrong.
Who knows?! It might be Wijnaldum's time to shine away from home - has to happen sooner or later.

9.) 07 Sep 2017 11:24:25
Oh God please no Milner against City. Unless coming off the bench to see out the game.
Will stuck with Gini-Hendo-Can for this one. Perfect combination of strength and creativity for a game like City away. Coutinho will start from the bench.

10.) 07 Sep 2017 11:46:21
Gino can Coutinho would've a better shout.

11.) 07 Sep 2017 12:15:38
It would be stupid to go there and try to contain them! We can't defend so why try bothering it? Our strength lies in solid attacking. Let's attack and put prrssue on city. This is not the game to achieve clean sheet.
You have to hit City on their weakness and they do struggle against pace and high press!

12.) 07 Sep 2017 14:31:32
I wouldn't start milner at all. Especially not in any of the cm positions. He's came on there from the bench in the last few games. Dwells too much on the ball for me. Gets caught in possession a lot. If wee need to score bring coutinho on and if wee need to close the game out bring on grujic.

13.) 08 Sep 2017 08:54:13
Not so much to contain them, but just not to leave ourselves open too much and over commit in attack. We will be picked off if gaps open in the midfield again. There's a very real chance Chamberlain could start I have been hearing on the grapevine though so you lot probably won't need to stress over Milner lol.



05 Sep 2017 05:58:02
OK first of all i understand international games are not to judge a player, but OX fails to excite me at all. i am not sure if he goes about his business like this he gets any games for Liverpool.
I wish pray and hope he can do a lot more for Liverpool.
I see people talking about directness of his play but he was bloody useless for England in the games :P
We have paid a lot for him and i hope he does a Firmino and not a caroll! (price wise)


1.) 05 Sep 2017 06:15:36
This is a Klopp masterpiece. Pace and directness I would have gone for Momo Sissokho st Spurs ( Useless obviously but would come for half the price if only headless chicken running is only what you need ) . He did not put one single cross all night yesterday.
You can't compare the signing with Firmino. Firmino was simply sensational at Hoffenheim before we brought him.

2.) 05 Sep 2017 06:16:11
He has abilities - I think he'll do well in a system that suits his style of direct running, and Liverpool will certainly give him that. Let's just give him time to get used to Klopps system and his team mates.

I don't expect him to be a Firmino, Mane or Salah type signing in terms of impact but I do expect he'll be very effective and strengthen the overall squad.

3.) 05 Sep 2017 06:28:23
I would have trusted GRUJIC over buying a hard core Rrunning Olympic athlete mate! You are simply pretending about Klopp system, the system demands RUNNERS!

4.) 05 Sep 2017 06:48:23
Hard to create anything in a Gareth Southgate team. Judge him in a red shirt first.

His touch, pace, and delivery all looked good. Just have a bit of patience.

5.) 05 Sep 2017 07:25:54
Grujic is a very different style of player - I would see him playing more of a box to box role, much like Can.

Ox I actually hope plays more as a backup to Mane and Salah as we lack pacy alternatives in those positions at the moment. Yes we have Kent and Ojo but they're young and not likely to come off the bench in a bench in a CL game to change things up, so rather see then develop another year on loan before coming back.

Ox in the midfield? I can perhaps see him playing a Lallana type role, ie. the free roaming attacking mid ahead of Hendo/ Can, but I'm yet to be convinced that's his best spot, guess we'll have to see.

6.) 05 Sep 2017 07:30:18
Not being funny but the England players don’t seem to have as much passion for country than they do club.
Could be southgates' tactics though making the team look very bland and boring. The 2 holding midfielders are NOT allowed to move from their position which is a shame for hendo because he thrives pressing forwards, and none of the rest of the team seem to have any freedom either ;_;

Maybe it’s because i’m so used to watching the exciting football that Liverpool play though that england looked bland and boring haha.

7.) 05 Sep 2017 07:38:05
Forgot to add to the end of my post I was basing it from the first half, and on the previous game too. I ended up falling asleep during the half time interval and missed the second half so no idea if it was any better.

8.) 05 Sep 2017 07:52:32
I trust in OX's ability and fairly it would seem he would do well in our system, My only problem is he has not shown in at all at arsenal or england the teams he has played for. of course he has the physical attributes but i don't think he walks in to our team, so i am just saying i hope he takes his chance when it comes otherwise it will go pretty downhill for him.
In our team neither does he walk in to the midfield nor the flanks.
lets be honest here, coutinho will be integrated in the squad i believe, and he can play both in midfield and flank and next year when keita joins midfield option is out for OX so its more or less very tough for the OX. OX simply has to perform the first few chances he gets for Liverpool otherwise i don't see him fitting in our team. i don't think he or LFC can afford bedding in time.

9.) 05 Sep 2017 08:34:08
Judge him in January guys, maybe even longer. I personally didn't want him as I don't really rate him and I think the cash should have been spent on the defence (same situation as last year really with Gini) . But now he has signed we need to support him (as I have Gini) and hope that a new challenge will bring the best out of him. At the very worst I think we maybe over paid for a good squad player, but I am am optimist and hope that Klopp sees something in him that most don't. Time will tell I guess and we should give him that.

10.) 05 Sep 2017 09:06:38
Honestly, is it too much to ask that we give the lad a chance to play for LFC first? Good grief, the relentlessly negative posts about this lad is appalling and disgusting. This is why some of our players are never given a chance. You are slating him now b4 even his first training session and when he makes a mistake (cos he will), the knives will be out for him and then, his confidence is shattered. It was the same with Karius. Made two mistakes and the fans destroyed him YET gave Migs the benefit of the doubt whereas he had been killing us with his errors for years. My god, give the boy a chance!

11.) 05 Sep 2017 09:30:42
Anyone watch John Barnes play for England?
He was bloody useless in a lot of England matches. Didn't mean a thing when he played at Anfield 🀝.

12.) 05 Sep 2017 09:48:27
Only saw your comment on Barnes now after also using him as an example in a post up above, some people complain just for the sake of complaining - no point trying to shed light in their miserable lives, they see what they want to see. Like a bodybuilder with the visual/ mental illness where all they see is an anorexic in the mirror when pumping iron down the gym (can't remember the name of the illness lol) .

13.) 05 Sep 2017 09:59:25
Body dysmorphia Kev. I only know because I suffer from the opposite πŸ˜”, I look in the mirror and see the body of an Adonis. Mrs K calls it "magic mirrors".

I didn't see your Digger comment either Kev, looks like yours was posted just before mine. Great minds and all that πŸ‘.

14.) 05 Sep 2017 11:03:55
Yes that's the one I think, thanks.
I don't know about the great minds mate but a little realism to the instant success blood suckers every now and again doesn't go astray. I have only been a fan for one league title win, so I'm used to us coming up short time and again (that'll bring realism if anything will) . I obviously would love us to win the league in my lifetime again but if not, there's far more to it than that. Real fans support through thick and thin like a good spouse would.
I can't understand other people's (so called fans) ridiculous behaviour towards their own players sometimes. If they're so bloody knowledgeable themselves, why don't they play or manage the club. Or go one better, do a Shankley and build up a lower club and turn it into a great club. Why can't they, because they are keyboard warriors who are absolutely clueless about most things in life, never mind a football club's runnings - playing Football Manager all day doesn't qualify anyone.




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05 Sep 2017 08:07:40
As for conspiracies - I am not sure on this but i think Clyne got some scandal on his hands he reported to the police. It could be personal reasons he is out and club are doing right by keeping it closed.
that or he is just injured and under diagnosis and docs haven't yet given an actual time frame on the extent of his injury.




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31 Aug 2017 19:00:54
Ed002 has given enough hint, he is gone.




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12 Aug 2017 03:32:33
For one I'd love to have Rafa back over klopp any given day. He was a genius. No LFC manager since 98 gets even close.




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31 May 2017 06:52:58
good shout, but if anything he has had, a not so convincing season at leverkusen. Probably not an upgrade over origi IMHO.




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31 May 2017 06:52:46
hmm still having him as a cover shouldn not be bad. i think we need 2 LB since the club doesn't have any once alberto is sold. Decent signing clichy, but his wages would be a bomb.





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20 Sep 2017 11:20:05
Its about expectations MK. a fair lot of us ( me included ) expected us to fight for the league this season. But most feel now we aren't even in contention so the constant grimace.
As usual I give any team till 19 games before making any judgement. But I feel Klopp has missed a trick this transfer window and and in early season it is a bit evident that the defense is still a mess and has left Klopp flabbergasted.
What particularly annoys me is we were going all good at the start and then suddenly the attack is having a bad phase where the ball won't just go in. Couple it would non sense defending and we are left with little positives to take out of the games.
We have crashed out of contention for one cup, it is small trophy that we won't be winning and its just early season - So we are panicking.
Klopp will get it right by the 8th-9th game of the season but till its tough to watch 30 shots on goal without scoring and conceding 2 in 2.




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18 Sep 2017 13:10:53
Hi MK nice post. It is fair but i don't think most people are wrong here mate. instead of putting a lot of money on AOC we could have still gone for a striker if not defender ( defender would have made more sense though) .
i agree we have a lot of strikers but they aren't able to force their way in to klopps plans. Studger is not same, solanke is inexperienced and ings is injured. A quality striker would have forced klopps hands at selection and ultimately resulted in a plan B of operations.

Ultimately all of us fans agree not having a Plan B system to play has been our undoing. teams can prepare for us in advance and if they can perform as they prepared we will have problems. So we need a plan B. and right now because of no realistic options available klopp is not interested in Plan B.
i still feel solanke and studger are realistic options for a plan B. but they have to come around 60-65 minute mark to make impact.

heres the thing - in heavy metal too you have a a drop guitar solos and those songs that have that guitar solos are the best. the litlle soft guitar solo when our heavy metal ain't working is what we needed.




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18 Sep 2017 12:02:57
i will still stick by my original point and say it not our defense that should be major concern. I don't think the defenders we have can defend any better that is the truth as we have seen. no matter what there is uneasiness in our defense and they are hardly supported by the team. our defense is always 4 players who are not very good at it and the midfield isn't helping their cause. so i don't think Klopp can do much about the defense.
What he can do something about is the attack though. it is a very potent attack with variety of options that could be possible
ofcourse there is mane salah and firmino where we can just attack on pace. then there can be mane solanke and salah where there can be crosses. we can also go two upfront out and out with solanke and studger in games like burnley hand have salah and mane/ firmino as LM RM just to have more width and crosses drilled in the centre and many more combinations
we don't even need an immediate signing for our attack unlike our defense.
the thing is we play one way and there is nothing else and teams know how to block us out. and they will continue to do so.




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18 Sep 2017 10:22:56
bingo are on roids mate?
when did i say buy new striker, i said we played wrong striker and had we started with solanke we would have more chance at converting the chances which was visible when solanke came on the pitch he nearly won us the game. he was available in the box often in his brief 10 minutes or so more than studger was for 90 minutes.
i don't know wht you are getting at shooting down every poster.
i am saying play the right striker, he should have had bobby or solanke there and not studger. it held us back.

and how does arsenal and chelsea get into the Mix? what are they supposed to do with how we play?
dont just stuff anything out just to prove your invalid point.

It is clear we drew the game because of not being able to take our chances.




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17 Sep 2017 21:31:18
That team would have beaten Burnley.