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29 Apr 2020 18:36:42
Ed, do you know what is due to be discussed at the PL meeting on Friday? If so, are you able to share any of it?

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - It will include a formal introduction to the new chair of the PL; a briefing on the discussions with the Government health advisors with the Premier League, The FA and EPL health advisors; a briefing on the potential to restart and how that might be possible; and discussions on the proposal from the FA to use independent facilities (there will likely be a push to avoid a vote as it may well fail). Then open discussions which will again see the growing number of clubs re-iterate their position on needing a drop-dead date by which the league would need to resume by, or a line drawn across. There is a push from two sides (and there may be others in agreement) that they should openly discuss ways the season could end if it cannot be restarted in a reasonable timescale. There will likely be some discussions about financial considerations and perhaps feedback on the discussions with the broadcasters - but as far as I know they are still ongoing.


1.) 29 Apr 2020 19:37:45
Excellent, thank you very Ed.


2.) 29 Apr 2020 20:52:08
I'd like to see it resolved by a 5-aside tournament over a weekend.

Representing LFC:

ALISSON
VAN DYKE
FIRMINO
SALAH MANE.


3.) 29 Apr 2020 23:05:30
So 5 a side using 4 players🤔🤔.


4.) 29 Apr 2020 23:31:15
Virgil would be no good in a 5 a side, try Allison, Gomez, Gini, Mane, Bobby.


5.) 30 Apr 2020 04:45:30
Port- count again smartypants 🤦‍♂️
What would your team be anyway?

King- why would VVD not be good at 5 aside. Positionally sound, no?


6.) 30 Apr 2020 07:10:53
I think that Millie should be in any 5 a side team we put out.


7.) 30 Apr 2020 08:40:53
Surely Fabinho must be In there and I love the comment five a side with four players quality.


8.) 30 Apr 2020 09:31:10
Stoneage has clearly named 5 players, right selection too.


9.) 30 Apr 2020 10:11:55
I count 5 port red.


10.) 30 Apr 2020 12:33:26
@stoneage 5 a side needs warriors who are multi skilled and full of energy, Gomez check, Gini check, Mane check and Booby check and you need Allison in goal who can also use his feet, check. Someone mentioned Milner that was a good shout and Henderson too would be but these are my 5.

5 a-side is very different to 11 a-side, if you have played the game.

KC.


11.) 30 Apr 2020 13:40:42
Any 5 LFC players in any position against any team for me please.

{Ed025's Note - karius, lovren, matip, lallana, origi....get beat 10-0 every game wiltshire..


12.) 30 Apr 2020 14:45:11
Not against Everton with Divock on the pitch, Ed025!


13.) 30 Apr 2020 14:21:19
Depends if we play everton ed025, you know origi loves a goal against your lot so maybe 10-2?

{Ed025's Note - i will give you that WYred mate.. :)


14.) 30 Apr 2020 19:30:40
5 aside

Allison
Van dike
Trent
Firmino mane.


15.) 30 Apr 2020 20:08:16
It should surely be:

Alisson,
Taa, Gomea,
Milner, Origi.

No need for extreme pace in a 5-a-side team. The forward just needs to be able to finsh. For the front two, work-rate is huge. Enough creativity from the back with TAA.

I love them both, but I don't think Mane and Salah would be as good in 5-a-side.

P. S. I managed a 5-a-side and a 7-a-side team for years, and also played in them, Different skill-sets require different thinking.

Also, Origi would be amazing at 5-a-side.


16.) 30 Apr 2020 22:28:43
Surely any 5 a side needs Bobby in it?! Quick, skillful feet, he'd be amazing in closed spaces.


17.) 01 May 2020 07:15:04
What about

Elisha Scott
Ray Kennedy
Jan Molby
John Barnes
Mo Salah

Kind of dreamy eh? Ed25.

{Ed025's Note - i would buy a ticket to watch those wiltshire, some great names there mate and i was a massive fan of molby..


18.) 01 May 2020 21:04:05
And your all time top toffees ed?

{Ed025's Note - southall, stevens, ratcliffe, alan ball, latchford...they beat everyone wiltshire.. :)


19.) 03 May 2020 19:14:35
It's got to be Southall. There wouldn't be much room past him in 5-a-side nets.


 

 

28 Apr 2020 18:10:57
Looks like the Fifa medical team and Ligue 1 have just burst the little bit of hope I had.

Ed002, as you've said many a time, it's down to each individual league what they do, however i assume the Fifa advice will be taken very seriously?

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - FIFA need to constrain their activities to what is in their remit and they, like UEFA, have overstepped the mark on a number of occasions. After a meeting of the "elite sides" more than a week ago a letter was sent to UEFA about their previous statements about finishing the season and their threats to clubs that don't - that led UEFA to step down. The comment from the FIFA medical perspective is based on advice that has recently changed. FIFA have provided a drop dead date for ending the seasons which is driven by their own tournaments - but local FAs will use it and make a decision based on achiving that and the gound swell of opinion from the clubs . in some countries the Government are making the rulings and overriding the FAs. Some countries are better prepared than others - and remember that the UK has the worst death rate in Europe and is behind the loop in timescales compared to Spain, France and Italy - that needs to be taken in to account. The Premier League will not tolerate an extremenly distasteful remark by a senior representative of one side last week. In terms of being prepared for a decision:
Belgium - season over.
Netherlands - season over.
France - season over.
Denmark - announcement this week - but likely season over.
Germany - provisions if season cannot be completed.
Spain - provisions if season cannot be completed (although one contravesial point needs agreeing).
Scotland - season open for SPL but clubs want closure and a line drawn across.
England - hopeless - running late in agreeing provisions if season cannot complete. A swell of clubs want the season ended as no end in sight - the dates being given have no basis.
Serie A - Goverment want to push for completion but swell of clubs want to draw a line across - possible that some clubs will refuse to play.}


1.) 28 Apr 2020 19:33:11
I'm fairly certain that the bundesliga is the only major league with any chance of getting going again. Obviously it's down to the individual league how they end the season and its starting to look like every one will be slightly different. Belgium declared champions, Holland no champions and no relegation/ promotion. The 3 scenarios muted in France all see PSG as champions and the same 3 teams relegated. I know there is a lot of money involved in the big 4 leagues (I guess this is why they will be the last to pull the trigger) but surely Fridays meeting will be the time to make decisions.


2.) 28 Apr 2020 19:49:22
Once again, thank you very much, Ed.

What a mess from the top down!


3.) 28 Apr 2020 19:57:17
I have a horrible feeling the senior rep was from Liverpool.

We, collectively, need to make a decision in the UK, I feel they are going to push for it to come back, succeed but within days a senior player/ manager will get it and football will be cancelled again. Leaving the authorities with egg on their face, be decisive do what needs to be done and draw a line.

Bring Leeds, WBA up, relegate no one, for one season remove PL teams from League cup to make room for the extra games. Then relegate 5 and promote 3 to bring it back to a 20 team league. European places as they are and and a vote by PL clubs if they wish to put us down as champions, or declare no champions and we have to go again next year.


4.) 28 Apr 2020 20:49:26
Why should other teams get their cl or promotions and Liverpool don’t get their title they have ran away with? Yeah I am all about Liverpool so what! U can’t give teams accomplishment and one that deserves it most none! If it’s null n void so be it but I’m not having the other crap it is or it isn’t! And I appreciate the low down from ed02 it’s a fantastic insight thanks 👍🏼.

{Ed002's Note - There is no null and void option. If Liverpool want to be awarded to it they should take the same approach as in Belgium - ask the League to award it and then it can go to a vote.}


5.) 28 Apr 2020 20:56:48
I feel like Ed might have told us if the rep was from Liverpool. He likes to keep the information he gives out club specific, whilst not pulling his punches on said specific club, so being vague tells me that it's likely someone else.


6.) 28 Apr 2020 21:46:47
Jay club red if LFC are awarded the title who then would qualify for the European places and who would be relegated? Or should we decide Liverpool are the best cancel all football for evermore and leave it there . That way you get your wish every season .


7.) 28 Apr 2020 23:27:48
Extra clubs means less tv revenue per club . I can't see any takers voting for that .


8.) 29 Apr 2020 09:24:37
Cloacina at present LFC are the only team qualified for Europe and my that’s my point why award other teams it when they have not earned it! We clearly deserve the title! Don’t be smart with your cancel football crap! The table never lies it could go down to ppg for the rest!


9.) 29 Apr 2020 10:12:15
Jay i don’t think many would argue that we deserve the title.

But if you are in villas position do you think it’s right they get relegated?

Ppg only tells the story up until now and doesn’t take into account who teams still have to play. For instance one of the teams in the bottom three may have all the sides around them to play. Ppg doesn’t take that into account of the fact that these are now must win games.

As for the CL places the competition will happen next season so who qualifies will need to be decided, fairest way to do that is take the positions as they sit.

Having to end the season is far from ideal but if it happens they need to find the fairest solution for clubs, but even then they can’t play lease everybody.


10.) 29 Apr 2020 10:15:05
Jay the only thing ppg does not work out can remember with 9 games to go the bottom 3 staying the same same as the top but this is when the pressure is on and some teams handle it as some don’t. I think if there is going to be a call off of all leagues then it would be better if the year all did the same. If some leagues are giving titles and promotions and relegations and some are not does not seem right. I think UEFA could maybe set the rule for all leagues to follow.


11.) 29 Apr 2020 08:22:11
Ed002 was the France league taken out of there hands with the french government ban all sporting events till September even behind closed doors. What do you think french teams in cl and el do if that does start in August. As for England are lockdown has been nowhere near as tight as a lot of other countries, I have a friend who lives in Paris and it’s a lot more tighter with there rules you need to print some form off to go out and was only allowed to go out like us but then it cut it back there but there seems a lot of people going to work in the uk that don’t need to.

{Ed002's Note - There were discussion with the Government and the clubs in the top two leagues - with several League 2 sides saying they would not play regardless. The Champions League and anything otherwise related to UEFA did not come in to it. Should the Champions League go ahead as UEFA plan in August it will be up to PSG and Lyon to decide whether or not they play - but the games are not planned to be held in France in any case. The clubs support the view of the Government.

The lockdown rules vary per country. The UK was unprepare, late acting and remains in the position where advice has often been misleading or not taken - such as the wearing of masks. Perhaps that is why the UK has the highest death toll in Europe whilst only reporting those deatchs that occure (a) after testing positive, and (b) which occur in hospital.}


12.) 29 Apr 2020 12:05:02
I am not convinced that rushing to a decision is the right thing to do, I personally do not see football being played this year. That is why I suggested the 20/ 21 season is scrapped and we finish this current season restarting from Feb 2020 with pre season friendlies and start the season early March. As for ECL and that other European competition I have no idea how to sort that mess out.

{Ed002's Note - It is not possible to scrap next season. Many clubs, including Liverpool, would not survive.}


13.) 29 Apr 2020 12:13:41
Ed, totally off topic from a football point of view - I agree that the UK were unprepared and slow to act, however there are many more factors to consider as to why the UK has the highest death rate.

London accounts for the highest numebr of cases and deaths in the UK by a considerable distance. As Europes largest major international hub, it was always going to be difficult to keep numbers down with the third highest the population density in Europe. But, action should have been taken to cancel Cheltenham and Liverpool vs Atletico, they should should never have taken place.

Each country is totally different in demographic, how they live and how well equipped they are for such a situation, hence why we would be foolish to follow in other countries footsteps, something i know you've previously pointed out when (myself included) have attempted to point to La Liga or Bundesliga as a way of restarting the season.

{Ed002's Note - Absolutely agree.}


14.) 29 Apr 2020 16:56:26
Wyred and grino I do agree with your points! But let’s look at the elephant in the room lfc deserve that title and Europe so that’s the 1st problem solved. Next is the European spots and as it stands that's who id give the places to harsh on others maybe but teams there deserve that place as for relegation again the table doesn’t lie! I know none of this would happen but I’m just saying how I see it lads! I don’t care about tainted or what ever the null and void fans call it it’s No19 if it happens 🙏🏻.


15.) 29 Apr 2020 18:13:10
Null and void won’t happen! Drawing a line under the season is different from null and void.

There are several different points here but we can’t just be given it without a vote from the other sides but, at least from me, there is no argument that we would of got the final two wins to seal it, or one if we beat city. We have been so consistent in getting over the line in games that if we don’t get it or the chance to see it over the line I would feel hard done by.

However, like everything in the uk, things should only reopen, or go back to work when safe.

As for the league, let’s flip it and say we have had a horrible season and in the bottom three when this happens, would you feel you should get relegated without playing your full allocation of games. Plus what if you have had a rotten run of fixtures and played all the top ten but have the bottom 9 to play? I agree the table doesn’t lie but at two points in the season, half way and when it’s complete.


16.) 29 Apr 2020 23:15:14
Ed02, you say clubs would not survive if next season is cancelled, Inc Liverpool, but most experts say a vaccine is at least 12 months away and social distancing measures will be in place til one is available. How can contact sprot continue next season if that's the case. Surely cannot be measures in place for some and not others,

{Ed002's Note - There has been no decision to stop all sport until a vaccine is available.}


 

 

22 Apr 2020 09:53:23
Morning Ed002, I see that the Dutch Eredivisie is likely to be cancelled due to the Governement extending the ban of mass gatherings.

I assume they looked into a number of options to finish the season, eg. playing behind closed doors but concluded that it was too much of a risk?

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - Playing behind closed doors before at least September 1 for the Eredivisie is not an option as too many people would been to be present to allow a game to happen - and such events and gatherings are not allowed by the Government in the Netherlands. My expectation is that they will formally notify UEFA today or tomorrow so it can be added to the agenda for their internal meeting.}


1.) 22 Apr 2020 11:17:40
Understood, thanks Ed.

As per your post last week, it seems like most leagues will go the same way.

{Ed002's Note - I suspect that they will as there is no clear end in sight.}


2.) 22 Apr 2020 11:33:14
Do you think any league in Europe will be able to finish their respective seasons?

Playing behind closed doors for the PL seems too ambitious considering the lack of testing available, and there is no situation where football clubs should have priority of testing kits over NHS staff, care workers, emergency service workers, teachers, delivery drivers etc.

{Ed002's Note - I have no way of knowing. Whilst the majority of countries would like to finishing the season the health of individuals must be paramount and there are continued fears that we are far from clear of issues with the Coronavirus. There are issues which may well stop certain countries returning to play games behind closed doors. Idiots like UEFA should not be making any broad statements at all. They have had to climb down from their position last week after a letter was sent by the "elite" sides.}


3.) 22 Apr 2020 13:04:52
ed002 is the Netherlands ban on mass gatherings more strict than other countries or are they all about the same. is it more they have put the ban in till September bringing an end to there chances of finishing there season.

{Ed002's Note - Mass gatherings are banned in most countries - so they are the same. September is simply the date they have used at the moment - because, like everyone else, they don't know when this will end.}


4.) 22 Apr 2020 17:13:49
I think the dutch Government have just been decisive about what they think is required for safety.

We will just continue to stumble on and hope someone else makes the decision so we don't look like the bad guy.


5.) 22 Apr 2020 20:25:24
I do think it is still to early to give up as we do not know what is going to happen yet. Each league has to follow there own governments plan. I know it’s not looking good at the minute, to jump in now I think is to soon just keep changing the date as inline with the government and hope we get out of this as soon as possible.


 

 

16 Jun 2017 17:52:28
Very rarely a poster of rumours, usually just ask questions, but I'm currently standing next to Peter Moore in Euston station.

He could be based down here of course, but if not, is something imminent?

ToonRed

1.) 16 Jun 2017 21:33:40
We've had an office in central London since 2014.


2.) 16 Jun 2017 23:57:55
So didn't you quiz him?


3.) 17 Jun 2017 15:40:05
Toon, you got to work on your rumours mate, as that was awful!


 

 

03 Jun 2015 15:14:19
Ed002, you've mentioned previously Mitrovic as a player that Liverpool should look at.

Is there any interest in him from us or anyone else in the prem?

Cheers

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - here is interest in Anderlecht's Aleksandar Mitrović from Borussia Monchengladbach, Manchester United, Swansea, Dortmund, Newcastle and Eintracht Frankfurt. The interest of Leicester and Bayern Munich seems to have gone, but Arsenal may just look again at the player - depending on which direction they wish to go given their first choice as opted to moved elsewhere. The interest from Manchester United is recent. Newcastle are likely not an option - perhaps it will become clear when the managerial role is resolved. Probably now of reach of Swansea and Frankfurt.}


1.) 03 Jun 2015 19:32:01
Would he be a player that we would potentially look at as an option Ed?
Sorry for the vague question

{Ed002's Note - It is what I have said.}


 

 

 

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19 May 2020 19:41:10
Ed002, the SPFL voted to end the season on a points per game basis and Celtic were crowned champions.

Did Celtic have to ask for a vote on being crowned champions like you’ve suggested Liverpool would if the PL were to end?

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - No but the clubs were were asked if they objected.}


1.) 19 May 2020 21:28:02
By the SPFL? Is that also what happened with Ligue 1?

{Ed002's Note - Sort of.}


2.) 19 May 2020 22:56:25
ed do you think it would have been better if UEFA had set out what leagues should do if they could not carry on so all leagues in Europe carried the same rules. It would make it more level across the continent.

{Ed002's Note - It has nothing at all to do with UEFA - they have no control over domestic leagues at all.}


3.) 20 May 2020 18:51:57
I get what Ed says but I do wonder if an overarching rule is required for this type of thing that takes away any debate. Especially as the UK press keeps telling us to expect more and more viruss.

{Ed002's Note - So you think FIFA should be given the responsibility for deciding? Why would any league accept a degredation of their power and having it it handed to an organisation that is still struggling to overcome issues it has itself with coruption that has also said it is determined to hurt as many Premier League sides as it can?}


4.) 21 May 2020 06:58:27
I’m just amazed that there isn’t a fixed rule for determining the approach to ending seasons early when something out of the ordinary happens. At least then EVERY team and league is treated in exactly the same way and you don’t get the inconsistency we’ve seen so far across Europe with some leagues naming winners and some not.


5.) 21 May 2020 12:59:58
Johnnyr1970, FIFA has way too much power as things stand riht now so why exactly would any country's league association defer more power to them to have more jurisdiction over that country's domestic league?

You may call the way leagues in Europe"inconsistency" BUT I call it "separation of powers". A country's league is a sign of that country's sovereignty in a way and if you that up to an already powerful entity like FIFA just so we can have more consistency then, we are all in trouble judging by the level of corruption FIFA has been and is prolly still marred with.


6.) 21 May 2020 13:30:47
Jonny, I think the point is that it's not UEFA's mandate to stipulate how that happens. It's up to the FAs.


 

 

08 May 2020 09:11:02
Ed002 various reports now saying there won’t be a vote on neutral venues on Monday as they want to sort it out before?

Teams at the bottom of the table are being told to get in line or face points deduction? Plus it puts the 2020/ 21 campaign under threat if they can’t agree now?

Players have been presented with waivers to sign but many are refusing?

Captains to speak to players about restarting?

Is any of the above true? Landscape seems to be changing each day as you suggested.

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - (1) That is not the plan for Monday. Whilst there is no intention to vote on the entire restarting proprosal (as it will fail) there remains the intention to vote on the neutral venues (which might still be touch and go but the clubs in the top six against it will switch sides). (2) Who by? If a club or clubs is using threats against other sides then that will be subject to punishment. (3) Waivers for what? (4) The players were told that their views would be taken in to account and that no longer appears to be the case.}


1.) 08 May 2020 16:22:27
Thanks Ed, don’t worry about the questions, was just trying to see if anything had changed.

Any prediction on outcome of the meetings this week?

{Ed002's Note - Today's meeting has been shifted to Monday. There have been various discussions between little groups of clubs over various matters. Everyone looks to continue to try and avoid a vote as it is hard to call. I am aware that some players are miffed as they were told they were all going to be asked their opinion on whether to start playing again or not - and that no longer appears to be the case. It is not a matter for the PFA but they will make out that it is. There are concerns over the number of positive tests are being found in footballers returning to train across Europe and with the players of two sides saying they don't wish to return to playing and with medical advice from club doctors not being heeded in England there are significant issues to be discussed.}


 

 

07 May 2020 09:13:12
I wonder if Leipzig would be interested in a player swap plus cash deal for Werner - Lovren, Shaqiri, Grujic or maybe even Brewster on loan?

ToonRed

1.) 07 May 2020 10:11:52
With the possibility of Werner coming in who is most like to move out and for how much?


2.) 07 May 2020 12:31:45
OP, those player swaps almost no longer happen like they used to do in the past. Could still happen, tho.

{Ed002's Note - Player exchanges are common in other countries and you will see more happen this year than before. Liverpool has not spoken to RBL about Werner at all.}


 

 

03 May 2020 13:25:05
Ed002, media suggesting today that it's the bottom six who are least in favour of neutral venues and even want relegation removed as a result.

You've eluded to similar reports, how true is it and his likely is it that they would scrap relegation if played at neutral grounds?

What happens if it's then possible to have crowds again later on 2020/ 21 season - surely we'd have a similar situation with teams being unhappy who missed out on home advantage when the first haf of next season is also played at neutral venues?

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - It is not just the bottom six. One club has been very vocal and others agree. There is no discussion about "scrapping relegation" related to this. There is no immediate plan to use neutral venues for next season - but behind closed doors is a probability.}


1.) 03 May 2020 13:36:21
Understood, thanks very much again Ed.


2.) 03 May 2020 14:52:01
If the neutral ground debate hits a crossroads between the clubs, would it likely be resolved in a vote or dissolve the restart project?


3.) 03 May 2020 16:05:11
I would imagine you will hear from a lot of players this week that are concerned about returning and eventually the season will be curtailed. There is no scenario for ending the season that will make everyone happy so it will be interesting to see what route is taken.
Ed I read today that many of the teams lower down the leagues are openly saying that if next season starts behind closed doors they won't be able to survive fanancialy and so there may not be any football in league 1 down until 2021. Is it possible that there is only prem and championship games next season?

{Ed002's Note - I cannot really help with the lower league teams and what they are saying but many obviously rely on gate-based income. Football needs to decide what sort of restructuring is required. Putting aside any "breakaway" or counter proposal, my fears have always been the vast number of professional clubs there are in England well below the Premier League. I hold a reasonably strong view in terms of the need to restructure football in Europe in any case. Previously I have said that the eventual "breakaway pan-European league" would force the restructuring of many of the national leagues, possibly resulting in a British league with perhaps only a couple of professional tiers and then regionalised amateur leagues below that. Now we have a situation that will change the financial paradigm and may make clubs and authorities look at the situation with lower tier sides regardless.

Financially I do not see that so many pro sides can be sustained within the sport which, like it or not, will see more and more money going in to the highest levels of the game. Governments will ensure that grassroots sport get funding but everything in the middle (Southern, Northern, Conference, Division 2, Scottish Divisions 1-3, League of Wales will not get the funding needed to continue on any sort of professional basis. For me, clubs should already recognise this and put their efforts in to getting their finances in order to see if they can make it to a British professional league that will need to flourish without perhaps six sides that have eventually gone down the pan-European route - and have gone for good (it would be two or perhaps three initially) or even separation from the Premier League and Championship.

Clubs like Accrington Stanley will need to carry on as amateurs or face extinction (yet again) like Bury. Recently Hartlepool has been struggling - again it needs to adapt. The mighty Third Lanark have started their long journey back to the top - it can be done. These are all proud clubs with a history.

The game has changed significantly and will continue to do so whether the supporters of certain clubs like it or not. Football at the highest level is big business and attracts the sponsorship it does because the sponsors wish to tap in to the disposable income of the fans and ride the back of the advertising that flows naturally from the success some clubs achieve. Long gone are the days of the cloth-capped, hobnailed-booted, chimney sweep making his way, rattle in hand, to cheer on his team at Anfield on a Saturday afternoon. I have explained that there will be changes, probably within the next 8 to 10 years, which will force the restructuring of all of the leagues in Europe and likely do away with the likes of UEFA. You will have the opportunity to see the likes of Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Juventus and the other major European sides play in week-on-week regular competition at The Emirates, St James Park, Stamford Bridge or wherever. Fans of the sides who take the plunge will have the opportunity to visit cities such as Milan, Barcelona, Munich, etc. every couple of weeks to watch their team play. If you want to don your cloth cap, have a pint of wallop with your chums before going off to the local match through the grim, wet and cobbled streets of the Northwest of England where there is smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street and only chips and fried curry to eat., perhaps one of the sides from the suburbs will have survived so the Liverpool and Everton supporters can go and watch them?

This will be a case of getting with the game. I will try to referred to this as the "Post Apocalyptic Zombie Scenario" from now on.}


4.) 03 May 2020 16:06:41
It seems strange one for me. You might lose home advantage, sure but you don't play away from home either, which is an advantage. If I was a bottom 6 club then I would use any leverage at my disposal to avoid relegation and the income they would lose.

{Ed002's Note - Itis not just the bottom six - two top six clubs are bleating about it as well.}


5.) 03 May 2020 16:49:57
I can see why there will be bleeting over every scenario. I'm sure Chelsea and Leicester would have no issue if the season ended now and they secure 3rd and 4th. if I was a Norwich fan I would want to avoid a restart unless Relegation was off the table as they are gonners. There's lots of "news" that's probably completely made up but if a resumption isn't backed then the season is curtailed and that leaves either PPG to decide all positions with Relegation and promotion. Roll back 1 full game week with promotion and Relegation. Draw a line with no Relegation or promotion. Or the German proposal that Ed 02 mentioned. There will be resistance to all of them so I have no idea how they navigate this and its probably why they are being so spineless in making a decision (along with the financial aspect) .

{Ed002's Note - Neither Chelsea nor Leicester are proposing or supporting ending the season now.}


6.) 03 May 2020 23:35:49
I'm sure Manchester United and Manchester City would have no issue if the season ended now . .


7.) 04 May 2020 21:17:06
Faith, not sure Utd want that cos they have a chance of making it into the top 4. A portion of their fans? Probably and the reasons are well, obvious.


8.) 05 May 2020 03:33:13
ed2 ruled out Chelsea and Leicester, I was just going through a process of elimination to get the 2 clubs lol.


 

 

29 Mar 2020 21:38:09
Apologies Ed002 if I’ve missed something, but your previous posts implies that the remaining games in the Bundesliga have been cancelled with a line drawn on results as they stand.

However, just seen that Dortmund are due back in training tomorrow?

I can only thing that the Bundesliga news isn’t yet official, and Dortmund are just getting players back in training to keep an eye on them?

Thanks.

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - No. It is the proposal in front of the Bundesliga.}


1.) 29 Mar 2020 22:23:07
Independent reporting the prem games to continue in a World Cup format, June July with training grounds being used instead of stadiums. All games televised. I hope this happens.


2.) 29 Mar 2020 22:43:12
I can’t see that LiverpoolFC8, would be a good solution but I doubt that will happen mate. I’m not doubting you what you’ve read though mate just what will happen.


3.) 29 Mar 2020 23:45:45
Yeh but You’ve got to dare to dream mate haha.


 

 

 

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01 Aug 2020 12:51:55
Is Mateusz Musialowski highly rated Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - Clearly someone at Liverpool thinks he is worth taking and this is the last chance for English sides to take 16 and 17 year old players from the EU. Personally I know nothing of him.}


 

 

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05 Jun 2020 12:25:06
May i ask who those youngsters are, Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - I have noted a few - but all have a lot of talent. I do fear for Bilel Hassaini (RW) who was looked at several times last season by Liverpool but is in a state of toxic flux right now due to his contract situation. PSG, Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Barcelona and St Etienne also took a look and one of his “representatives” opened discussions with West Ham. He desperately needs better representation else he needs to look for a job as a postman or whatever.}


 

 

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10 May 2020 09:07:40
Plus Wilson and Lallana will be leaving too. Hopefully we go for Ben White who would provide much needed back up and also be HG.

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30 Apr 2020 14:45:11
Not against Everton with Divock on the pitch, Ed025!

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29 Apr 2020 19:37:45
Excellent, thank you very Ed.

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24 Jul 2020 19:56:21
Eg. Neco and Curtis.

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12 Jun 2020 11:46:32
Stadiu, new training facility and payments for players due in June.

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06 Jun 2020 11:13:02
Sorry Ed, which Martinez is this we might be interested in?

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{Ed002's Note - Lisandro Martinez (CB) watched by Liverpool and Real Madrid but he was not one of the players Ajax agreed to let leave this summer. Others like Diego Llorent, Ben White, Fry, Godfrey and Ferreira have also been considered.}


 

 

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19 May 2020 21:28:02
By the SPFL? Is that also what happened with Ligue 1?

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08 May 2020 16:22:27
Thanks Ed, don’t worry about the questions, was just trying to see if anything had changed.

Any prediction on outcome of the meetings this week?

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{Ed002's Note - Today's meeting has been shifted to Monday. There have been various discussions between little groups of clubs over various matters. Everyone looks to continue to try and avoid a vote as it is hard to call. I am aware that some players are miffed as they were told they were all going to be asked their opinion on whether to start playing again or not - and that no longer appears to be the case. It is not a matter for the PFA but they will make out that it is. There are concerns over the number of positive tests are being found in footballers returning to train across Europe and with the players of two sides saying they don't wish to return to playing and with medical advice from club doctors not being heeded in England there are significant issues to be discussed.}