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26 Jun 2022 10:55:34
Is there any interest in Keita, Ed?

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - I don't think there have been any approaches.}


1.) 26 Jun 2022 11:20:39
Do you think there might be?

{Ed002's Note - I cannot make such predictions - but I doubt it.}


2.) 26 Jun 2022 12:52:29
He's on big wages plus as you've said Ed002 he's restricted to what countries he can play in unfortunately.


3.) 26 Jun 2022 13:38:34
I believe Toby Carvery are looking for spud peelers.


4.) 26 Jun 2022 13:53:01
Iron man, does that job have hazard pay because it sounds a bit strenuous for him!

I'm just bantering by the way before the lynch mob come after me!


5.) 26 Jun 2022 16:09:21
Lynch mob or lunch mob, MK? ;)


6.) 26 Jun 2022 17:24:00
Can anyone recall how well thought of keita was, I remember there was a lot of excitement (even the handing over of the number 8 shirt) . But non Liverpool fans, was it a big deal, I find it staggering just how ineffective he has been. There's a long list of players we've signed that disappointed, off the top my head aqualani was the big one for me, where I thought we had signed a player that could add something different. But I don't put keita in that bracket, he never seemed that exciting or different. Thiago would be the most recent example, though I'm delighted with him and he has lived up to the expectation that came with a pedigree. It's a genuine question did keita have much of a pedigree or did we just spend 50 odd million on a player like the 7 million on taki? If so who would rather take a hit and have sold keita for 8-10 million and have kept taki?

{Ed0666's Note - Aqualini was injured when we bought him and let’s face it he was an absolute flop! For me tho the biggest waste of money in our history was/is Andy Caroll, we got our pants pulled down on that one royally. L


7.) 26 Jun 2022 17:57:47
Benteke was on par with terrible Carroll imo! Shame as well, he was good for the villa system at the time.


8.) 26 Jun 2022 18:02:10
Genuinely forgot about Carroll. I think I just erased him from my memory. Though I wasn't excited about him either. Which I guess is my point, am I wrong to be disappointed in keita, he didn't set the fee, I just honestly can't remember if he was rated that much outside of big fee expectations.


9.) 26 Jun 2022 18:09:54
Borini, the last time I watched YouTube clips about an incoming player…. thought he was a world beater ?.


10.) 26 Jun 2022 18:20:50
Borini looked good biting his hand though.


11.) 26 Jun 2022 18:33:03
Julian Dicks - was supposed to be a decent left back.


12.) 26 Jun 2022 19:18:51
It’s completely unfair on Benteke. He never stood a chance in Klopp’s system. He’s a target man and that’s not our system.

The biggest flop ever for me is Balotelli: a fraud of a footballer and the fact we thought he could replace the most mobile and flexible forward we’ve ever had in Suarez was numskullery.


13.) 26 Jun 2022 20:05:40
Benteke, Borini, Balotelli, Carroll, all absolute pony.


14.) 26 Jun 2022 20:33:19
Carroll was swept under the carpet as soon as we announced Suarez that same day. Suarez made the headlines positive, 2 wrongs don't make a right though.


15.) 26 Jun 2022 21:54:44
Ed0666 I thought it was just Carroll attitude he could have been a very good player destroyed Terry in a game. But it was his drinking effecting him injured all the time.

{Ed0666's Note - I’m not sure caroll had the talent even if he’d acquired the application mate. Wasn’t even that great at Newcastle if you ask me.


16.) 26 Jun 2022 22:13:32
Keita is bad but he is not £8-10 Million bad. More like £20-25 Million bad. But the point is that FSG will never sell him at even that price after having paid what they have. I think Klopp would have kept Taki, but Taki simply wanted more playing time. I read in an interview how he said that the 10 goals didn't mean as much to him as the need to be more involved with the team and its success.


17.) 26 Jun 2022 23:52:46
El Hadji Diouf for me. The worst ever. A no.9 striker that went through a whole season without scoring 2003 - 2004. I remember I deliberately did not watch Liverpool games when he played after his spat against Celtic fans. Horrible player, worse human being.


18.) 27 Jun 2022 00:27:07
Keita is a better player than Taki. As well as Taki did you have to remember the good performances and goals were in the cups. We wouldn't have won those cups without him, but let's be honest if Taki was staring games ahead of mane, Diaz, Salah, jota firmino and maybe even Origi fans would have went mad. We seen in big matches in the champions league and league at the end of the season when Keita gets a run and form he put in some very decent displays along side fab and thiago.


19.) 27 Jun 2022 10:46:30
I remember watching Andy Carroll score a hat trick including an over head kick after coming on as a sub for England u21s and I wanted us to sign him from that moment he scored plenty in the championship at the time then got a good amount in the prem before we signed him in the January and I thought it was going to be amazing how wrong I was.


20.) 27 Jun 2022 11:36:04
Ballotelli was dreadful. Worse than Carroll for me. Richie lambert wasn't much better or voronin or borini. god we've had some dross upfront.


21.) 27 Jun 2022 16:17:18
In terms of absolute amounts spend on a player, Keita has been the biggest waste of money in LFC history.

Though Carroll, Balotelli, Benteke and Aquilani were probably even more useless, they didn't break the 50 million mark. Phew.

Keita should have been sold before Taki.

But you aren't taken seriously if you're from Japan or Korea.

Son was probably the best forward in the league last year and didn't even make the team of the year, never mind player of the year.


 

 

22 Jun 2022 09:51:54
If nothing else, please tell me Klopp doesn’t still have the kipperties for Traore?!

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - I suspect he still does but I don't see a move happening.}


 

 

18 Jan 2022 16:57:02
Ed, you mentioned Firmino being the most likely to be the first of the ‘front three’ to be phased out.

Who do you think would be a good replacement?

And who do you think the replacement might be? You’ve put together an extensive list of wingers who we’ve expressed interest in but very few are the versatile forward like Firmino.

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - arias would be a potential replacement.}


1.) 18 Jan 2022 18:26:04
Yes, he gets into some very dangerous arias.


2.) 18 Jan 2022 18:59:21
Arias? Only Arias I know of is the right back?

Someone fill me in!


3.) 18 Jan 2022 17:09:42
Did you mean Dias Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - Yes Luis Diaz.}


4.) 18 Jan 2022 17:18:48
Did you mean Diaz, Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Yes - a phone issue.}


5.) 18 Jan 2022 20:09:26
It’s all good Ed.


6.) 18 Jan 2022 20:14:38
Do you
See LFC signing Diaz Ed 2 or is he priced out of reach?

{Ed002's Note - If the club are able to raise the money or strike a deal over a plan, then maybe.}


7.) 18 Jan 2022 20:23:18
Would that be Jota to take the central role permanently and Mane and Diaz rotate on the left wing? Or would Diaz also play through the middle?

{Ed002's Note - Diaz would be the catalyst to moving Firmino on. The players are versatile.}


8.) 18 Jan 2022 20:38:04
Has any of Ed's seen much of Diaz? I've only seen him twice in the 2 champ league games against us and he didn't stand out I thought.

{Ed002's Note - He is liked by many as a decent player.}


9.) 18 jan 2022 21:11:13
at the start of the transfer window the eds were saying that diaz will not be moving to liverpool, are we saying it has a chance now?

id love this one to have legs.

{Ed002's Note - Only if Liverpool can borrow the money from somewhere to offer the required €80M and the player is interested in the move. If you don’t like what has been said, we can easily remove your account.}


10.) 18 Jan 2022 23:19:28
Ed I no you don’t like timing questions but I’m presuming if we were to make a move it would be summer window and zero chance it happens in next 11days?

{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer questions without knowing more.}


11.) 19 Jan 2022 12:10:51
Hi Ed002

With Luiz Diaz being owned by Porto and Junior, would it be a difficult deal to get done this window?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - It is unrelated to any of the potential buying clubs. The €80M buy out clause covers the additional monies owed by Porto to have 100% ownership.}


12.) 19 Jan 2022 13:32:42
So it's just a simple case of paying the set price and of course, the player wanting the move.

Thanks ed002.

{Ed002's Note - Subject to a couple of other matters, yes.}


13.) 19 Jan 2022 13:35:42
One more thing on Diaz is I may Ed002,

Have Liverpool made any type of contact with the players reps or Porto direct, with regards to starting the ball rolling on getting a deal done?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - There is not going to be an attempt to sign him immediately.}


14.) 19 Jan 2022 13:59:01
Thank you kindly for your replies .


15.) 19 Jan 2022 18:35:44
I think maybe a desk for the summer if anything Bergersleeg. Nit sure if it’s possible to strike a deal now fir the summer or not, I guess we wait and see mate.


16.) 20 Jan 2022 12:19:32
I only have one question Ed002, would you consider Diaz to be nifty?

{Ed002's Note - Some do.}


17.) 20 Jan 2022 13:03:51
There is strong reports that Liverpool may do a deal for 19 year old Fabio Carvalho of Fulham in January, could be a long term potential replacement for Bobby?


 

 

17 Jan 2022 07:51:24
Rumours of Firmino to Barcelona in the summer. Anything in it Ed?

ToonRed

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach from Barcelona.}


1.) 17 Jan 2022 10:56:57
I would not begrudge Bobby getting a final move somewhere else where the game is played at a slower pace.
He is and always be an LFC legend and i wish him well whatever he does.


2.) 17 Jan 2022 12:36:38
Good luck to him if he does go. He’s played his part in the successes.


3.) 17 Jan 2022 12:47:00
Has he actually said he wants to go or has his agent been touting him around? Not read anything about it.
Personally think he should of gone 2 seasons ago. Previous to that he was quality.


4.) 17 Jan 2022 15:30:32
Given the original source is El Nacional - Barcelona's own Catalona battle cry - I'd suggest it's nonsense.


5.) 17 Jan 2022 20:39:57
I must admit though when I read it I couldn’t help but think it would be the best move for all parties.

I love Bobby and Mane but as with all players at some point they need replacing. Both Firmino and Mane are both on the decline, and have to start thinking of both being replaced at some point.

To be fair there is a lot of good options available this summer ie Diaz, Dembele, Vlahovic etc, who are potentially obtainable by us.


6.) 17 Jan 2022 21:39:58
Jones, Dembele is not a good option. He’s an awful option, I’d rather keep Mane. Literally signing him would the equivalent of burning £500’000 a week in cash outside of Anfield. Woeful footballer with a body made out of crisps.


7.) 18 Jan 2022 08:46:14
So you rate him then?


8.) 20 Jan 2022 00:31:46
Not even robust crisps, like McCoys but flimsy ones like Skips.


 

 

04 Jan 2022 13:40:08
Looks like Leighton Clarkson’s loan at Blackburn is ending prematurely.

ToonRed

1.) 04 Jan 2022 15:08:49
Yes he has returned. Unfortunately very little game time.


2.) 04 Jan 2022 16:26:01
I've checked every Blackburn game and he's been on the bench in pretty much every game and only got a hand full of minutes from the bench, most of the time never getting on the pitch even if all 3 subs are used.
Shame as he was a big prospect for us and probably ahead of Morton in terms of proximity to the 1st team.


 

 

 

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26 Jun 2022 16:01:48
Doesn’t Otavio play in a similar position to Elliot? Right sided attacking midfielder or is he a right winger?

I don’t doubt Ed002 that we’re interested, just seems an odd one when we’re very well covered for that area of the pitch instead of looking for an out and out right forward to be backup/ replace Mo.

ToonRed

1.) 26 Jun 2022 16:33:37
Well covered?


2.) 26 Jun 2022 17:10:45
If the team is evolving to utilising a striker then the direct salah replacement isn't as essential. Having two that can provide for nunez/ jota would be equally as effective as having a like for like firmino (instead of nunez) and a backup/ replacement for salah. In my opinion at least.


3.) 26 Jun 2022 17:55:27
If Otavio is coming in then it's not one of the midfielders who are leaving, I don't think. Ed0666 was discussing it on another earlier post, and I suggested maybe the one leaving is either Firmino or Salah? There is the possibility of Ox leaving but then I would have to look at the HG situation at the team and see if it worsens. Jones has turned 21, so he now has to be registered as a HG club trained player. Maybe that works?


4.) 26 Jun 2022 18:26:11
Jones will still count as U21 for next season, Aray. The rules are that the player must be U21 on 1 Jan of the year the league season starts. Curtis didn't turn 21 until 30 Jan 22, so he will still be under age.


5.) 26 Jun 2022 19:09:28
Thanks for popping my balloon Zed, LOL.


6.) 27 Jun 2022 10:11:57
Be thankful Zed didn't pop your cherry ArAy ?.

{Ed014's Note - ??


7.) 27 Jun 2022 17:46:44
Lol, Barry, he'd be about 45 years too late. ?.


 

 

23 Jun 2022 11:37:16
Not convinced on Asensio. Would prefer we went for Gnabry to give him a year to get up to speed before Salah goes.

ToonRed

1.) 23 Jun 2022 12:14:43
not going to happen.


2.) 23 Jun 2022 12:24:33
Gnabry is likely asking Salah like wages or close to it. We not offering that while Salah is still here. If he leaves then yeah sure. Next summer on a free for Gnabry at best.


3.) 23 Jun 2022 13:03:40
Dreadful player who has regressed at RM for the past several years. Hard pass.


4.) 23 Jun 2022 15:49:05
12 goals and 2 assists in about 2000 minutes of football says he is not a dreadful player!

His ACL injury in 2019 hampered his development but he bounced back last season with his best goal return of his career. So to say he has regressed is simply not true. He's a very talented player who can play several positions at the highest level, and in my opinion would be excellent if Ox left.


5.) 23 Jun 2022 19:08:26
No thanks to Gnarby.


6.) 23 Jun 2022 21:39:01
I'd have to say no to Gnabry too but only based on the fact that I'm not sure how to pronounce his name correctly.


 

 

29 Jan 2022 18:23:43
Another assist from Carvalho for Fulham today, I really hope we get him this window and loan him back in an attempt to repair our relationship with Fulham.

He looks the real deal!

ToonRed

1.) 29 Jan 2022 22:21:28
What relationship with Fulham?


2.) 30 Jan 2022 05:56:41
Eds, do u see us moving for the Fulham lad in January?

{Ed002's Note - I rather doubt Fulham will want to do any business with Liverpool.}


3.) 30 Jan 2022 11:31:43
Might not have much of a choice if the lad wants to come.


4.) 30 Jan 2022 13:12:11
Why is the relationship bad eds?

{Ed002's Note - There have been issues in the past - there is no point in dragging it all up again.}


5.) 30 Jan 2022 15:03:58
OK no worries. I'm sure if we pay the money they will be fine.


 

 

28 Jan 2022 09:35:11
I love a late transfer swoop, especially when it hampers our rival plans - fingers crossed Diaz goes through.

Also talk this morning that we’re in pole position for Fabio Carvalho? Again could be loaned back until end of the season, anyone else heard the same?

ToonRed

1.) 28 Jan 2022 11:00:12
Doubt we’d do this now when Klopp can just tap him up and get him in the summer for free.


2.) 28 Jan 2022 11:29:08
Exciting young English talent. He probably knows Harvey so settling in shouldn’t be a problem and he’ll see that Klopp likes to give young players a chance.


3.) 28 Jan 2022 14:01:52
VVVV, is Diaz English? I thought he was Columbian.


4.) 28 Jan 2022 14:39:12
I think he was talking about Carvalho, not Diaz.


5.) 28 Jan 2022 15:35:53
Clearly talking about Carvalho. Not exactly rocket science 🙄.


6.) 28 Jan 2022 14:39:12
I think he was talking about Carvalho, not Diaz.


 

 

13 Jan 2022 08:10:21
Chris Bascombe reporting Salah wants £400k a week.

Is it time to sell and use the money to refresh the squad?

I don’t want to lose him, but we’re short on cash and if it provided funds for say Bellingham and Bowen, I think I’d cash in.

ToonRed

1.) 13 Jan 2022 09:00:13
I'd rather give Salah what he wants and sell Mane or Firmino and get them 2 with some backing by the owners.


2.) 13 Jan 2022 09:09:39
Salah has no interest in staying. Some need to accept that.

{Ed025's Note - so you know him personally OMM?, thats just guessing mate..


3.) 13 Jan 2022 09:10:28
So would I, but I don’t think we can rely on our owners.


4.) 13 Jan 2022 09:30:30
Everyone already knew he would have wanted around that mark, and so he should. You simply don't sell a player as good as Salah willingly, and if Salah goes what would that say about us to the likes of a Bellingham? top clubs don't sell their best players they add to them.


5.) 13 Jan 2022 10:03:21
Spot on, JH.


6.) 13 Jan 2022 09:48:44
Chelsea, Utd and City would likely be in for Bellingham. Therefore that transfer would turn into an auction and we couldn’t compete with the 3 for fee or wages in an auction.


7.) 13 Jan 2022 10:15:32
Unless Bellingham actually WANTED to join us.


8.) 13 Jan 2022 10:19:57
Salah is not as big as the club.

I don’t like him and / or his agent putting forward this line of ‘If only they do what I want I’m more than happy to stay’ routine.

If he isn’t happy he should clear off. When Salah retires LFC will still be here.


9.) 13 Jan 2022 10:31:36
JH that’s what I mean by an auction mate. It wouldn’t matter who Bellingham wanted to join if we were only offering Dortmund half (just using that as a ball park figure) compared to what the other 3 were. In that case Dortmund wouldn’t even accept the offer for us to find out what we wanted.

The richest person / team will always win an auction.


10.) 13 Jan 2022 10:34:33
There is two sides to the Salah argument, a sporting standpoint and a business one.

On the sporting side, we need to keep him at all costs. He is arguably the best player in the world at the minute, and at worst he is in the conversation of whether he is. Huge player for us that lifts the level of the team. From a sporting standpoint and as a fan it is an absoloute no brainer.

However, from a business side, the side we don't like talking about with football but the descion makers have to. You have a player at his peak or very close to it. He is asking for huge sums that on performance are warranted but, they have to decide what the investment will bring them in return.

If he stays, you should be competing for everything and arguably getting a few trophies added to the cabinet. So the prize bonuses and improving of the clubs brand. However, this would be his last lucrative contract, with very little sell on fee in 2-3 years and even smaller if he sees out towards the end of the contract.

The question is, do the trophies/ prizes and improvement of club brand outweigh the transfer fee we would get this year? That will be the analysis that people far smarter then me will be working out.

Personally, I'd keep him, find a bobby replacement (the one we had of a few years back, I know ed025 isn't his biggest fan, but his link up play was integral to our game) and sell mane (love him as a player but still has some value for re-investment, and we can't have an entire front three aging at the same rate, we need some form of succession plan) .


11.) 13 Jan 2022 11:01:59
We should keep Mo as the indications are he will be physically good enough for another 3/ 5 years at least.

We need to retain him and refresh the squad in the summer.

In the ideal world we get Mo to sign up for another 4 years and we get Bellingham in the summer and Jurgen and is coaching team sign contract extensions.

Naby Ox Divock and Millie move on… though I would give Millie a one year extension in a heartbeat and maybe we sell Sadio and bring in Bowen or someone else.


12.) 13 Jan 2022 11:06:56
Spot on WYred how much would it cost us to buy the world's 2nd best player because that's what we'd have to do if we sold Salah to replace his goals and assists. The man is pure class works extremely hard for the team he's irreplaceable imo. Sure I love Bobby and Sadio but if I had a choice I like you would sell the other 2 and hope to get someone younger in their place and keep Mo at all costs brother.


13.) 13 Jan 2022 11:15:44
Yeh West Derby let them all clear off if they are not happy playing for far less than they are worth (compared to what players of similar stature earn) let Virg, Robbo, Trent all clear off. How dare they want to earn as much as their positional equivolants at other clubs because trust me it won't be long before the likes of Diaz are on far more than Virg, Varane apparently already is.


14.) 13 Jan 2022 12:07:40
Virgil and Trent signed new deals just last summer, Jadon, so they're obviously not too unhappy with Raphael Varane (or whomever) being paid more than them. Although outside of Man City, I do wonder what right full backs in the PL are being paid more than TAA's reported £180k per week.

Salah's problem is that there's not many places for him to go to get £400k a week. And I think that's why the club are willing to engage in brinksmanship with him. I can only see PSG coming in for him with that amount if they lose Mbappe, now that Barcelona have imploded (have they registered Ferran Torres yet? ) and RM looking at other options. Maybe if RM miss Mbappe and any alternate targets they have, they might come in either.

If reports are to be believed, £400k a week would make Salah the highest paid player at pretty much any other club apart from Utd who are paying Ronaldo more than that. He'd be joint highest with de Bruyne at City.

Then again if it goes right to the wall next summer, a lot can happen in 18 months.


15.) 13 Jan 2022 12:21:07
Forget Salah, all this is pointing to FSG needing to sell Liverpool. We can’t compete financially anymore with these owners.
When you think Long term, they’re probably looking at selling, when the stadium is complete I think we will see a New Ownership being looked at defo. I Can’t see another way they continue long term. Everything points to a sale.


16.) 13 Jan 2022 12:33:44
I'm curious as to who anyone on here thinks is going to buy the Liverpool, and would be substantially different from FSG.

There's a finite number of state backed investment funds who will pour billions into a club for sportwashing and I'd rather not have them anyway.


17.) 13 Jan 2022 12:39:19
Virg, Trent were examples Something! i mean that we have to be willing to pay the top players we have the going rate or else gradually as a fanbase get used to not having such top players anymore. We've done brilliantly to build such a good squad without spending a lot more than we've recieved through sales but you can't keep hitting the jackpot.


18.) 13 Jan 2022 12:44:10
LiverpoolFC8, and you gathered all that from what the OP posted?


19.) 13 Jan 2022 13:25:41
Lfc8. I can't see them selling until the super league happens, in whatever form it is. That would be clubs value at a max (for forseeable future) I would think.


20.) 13 Jan 2022 14:23:43
One thing I keep seeing on these Salah discussion is either pay him or sell him and it is purely the owners fault etc. Has anyone actually considered that the club can't afford what he is asking? Salaries fall into FFP I believe and if we go by what Ed002 says, the club is already stretched financially living 'hand to mouth'. Who is to say the club can afford to meet Salah's demands and comply with FFP. Would you all be happy if the club met his demands, signed him up and then turned around and said in order to comply with FFP, we have to sell Mane to get him off the books and there is no money for a replacement?
All hypothetical of course, but it isn't always a case of pay or not, there are so many variables at play in the business.


21.) 13 Jan 2022 14:47:48
Bellingham and bowen through the sale of salah? How much do you think he's going to generate? . Mo is the best player in world and you want a young kid from a rubbish German league and bowen to impact the club as much as salah does? I'd take take both Bellingham and 100% bowen but not if we have to get rid of mo to generate the cash flow. If mo goes we are screwed upfront. Mane and bobby should go first. Clear thiago out. Give half his wages to salah.


22.) 13 Jan 2022 15:11:55
I think the talk of selling Salah for £10+ for some kind of rebuild is just not living in the real world, who is going to pay more than £60m for a 30 year old in the last year of his contract? Any club wanting to buy him will be kicking tyres and low balling us. And if we do sell, what then? Who are we going to find who can score 20+ goals and provide around 10 assists every year for the peanuts we can afford.
Players like Salah don’t come a dime a dozen and given our budgetary restrictions we’re not in with a shout for those players who are capable of replicating that kind of form, personally I’d pay the man close to what he wants and be done with it. He’s in physically good shape and he’s one of the genuinely few world class players around and looks good to still be doing his thing for another 4 years.


23.) 13 Jan 2022 16:03:58
100% agree with that Victor. Good luck with a "rebuild" outa the Salah money.


24.) 13 Jan 2022 16:10:24
*meant £100m+.


25.) 13 Jan 2022 16:20:06
Ronaldo was 33 when Juve paid £100m for him and real offered £140m or something for Mbappe with 6 months remaining, albeit Ronaldo did have 3 years remaining on his contract and Mbappe is a lot younger, but you get my point. Clubs are willing to spend big on world class players. I don't think Salah's age or contract length would have a major bearing on his price. The obstacle I see to getting a high fee for him is no one wants him. Real want Mbappe/ Haaland, Barcelona are in tatters and PSG are trying to tie Mbappe down to a contract. As Ed002 has said, his agent tried getting him a big move a while back, I think that ship has sailed and he is desperate to get his bumper pay packet at all costs.
Is anybody really fooled that Salah loves Liverpool and would do anything to stay? Look at Messi, the man who was Barcelona through and through. For years he single handedly crippled the club he 'loved' financially. How long will Salah be the best in the world? No one knows that answer as we don't have a crystal ball. But commit to his demands now and when he retires in X years, where does the money come from to replace him then?


26.) 13 Jan 2022 16:43:10
Stuie, Barcelona was being run by people who thought they had monopoly money and had zero care for the club or where the money came from, Messi earned Barcelona much more than he ever took from them, Salah has another 4/ 5 years left at the top easy, we aren't replacing a striker, we are replacing a rw, that's crazy for those numbers to come from him, he has done more than enough for Liverpool to earn what he is asking for, the problem isn't Salah and his demands, it's the people who don't want to pay him, they pay just as big a contract in the US, we have 2/ 3 high earners who could leave to pay for Salah's wage.


27.) 13 Jan 2022 17:09:41
Them 2/ 3 high earners leave to cover Mo's wages and there'll be whining on here about squad dept.


28.) 13 Jan 2022 17:17:11
Stuie we also live in a world where clubs like Villa are demanding £100m for Grealish so god knows what a decent replacemebt would cost. I personally doubt we will get £100m for Mo, clubs would know that if he hasn't signed on by the summer tben he's not signing at all and they would also know there's not a hope in hell the owners would let Mo leave for free so we would end up with a last week of the window bargain basement move for the worlds best player.


29.) 13 Jan 2022 19:10:05
Or, and again I'm playing devil's advocate, he doesn't want to stay. He's a very clever fella and knows if he fires out a few "I really want to stay" or "I really love the club with all my heart" quotes that fans will lap it up and not question him. Football politics. I'd love nothing better than being wrong but I reckon he wants away, he's came to the Premier league and proven himself. That's what he said he in one of his first interviews after signing. Hopefully as I say I'm wrong.


30.) 13 Jan 2022 19:27:51
All valid points and I do agree to a point. But again, no one can say for certain he will be this good for 4 years, that's purely an assumption. You can't compare US sports with football, completely different entities entirely. Liverpool are restricted as to what they can outlay without recouping the money, and that includes salaries. I'm not saying sell Salah, I'm just trying to put another perspective across that people probably shouldn't be too hard on the owners. There are two sides to every story and unfortunately, I don't think the owners will be doing a GQ magazine interview on Salah's contract any time soon.


31.) 13 Jan 2022 21:17:13
I think Madrid offered €140m just before the last year and offered €40m this window. Mpappe has age on his side, Salah doesn't I’m afraid.


32.) 13 Jan 2022 22:18:47
@JH, the point I was making is that if Salah, like Coutinho and Suarez before him is motivated by money then so be it. We are constrained in terms of what we can afford and if we can’t afford his demands then he has to leave - that’s business and it’s fair enough. It has happened before it will happen again.

What I don’t like is the ‘I’m not asking for anything outrageous” - just more money than the club can afford and new players that we can’t afford, and the line ‘I would like to stay here until I retire’ / ‘I love the fans’ of course they all do it @and again it’s part of the business these days but it’s blatantly so d false it makes my stomach turn. I don’t know the fella as I’ve never met him so he might be a decent, salt of the earth type but his comments aren’t doing him any favours imho.


33.) 14 Jan 2022 07:24:19
Tommy Gunn, why would you give Milner another year extension? He has done nothing this season to warrant a contract extension. Last night’s game showed just validated it. He is too old, has no pace and younger opposition players constantly outpace him. He had been a great servant to the club but time to get rid.


 

 

 

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26 Jun 2022 11:20:39
Do you think there might be?

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26 Jun 2022 10:55:20
Because if he were to move this summer he wouldn’t get a huge sign on bonus, but will next year when he’s a free agent?

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08 Jun 2022 14:55:39
Sangare or Kalvin Phillips maybe?

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10 Jan 2022 11:59:24
Would be easier to just employ Leipzig’s scouts!

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06 Jan 2022 10:31:07
Higher price with a deferred payment again, Ed?

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14 Jan 2022 11:20:30
I agree with the sell list, but we might need to add Thiago and Mane on there as potential departures to be sacrificed.

On the acquisition side, I think Diaz, Bowen and Bissouma are more likely, however would love to see an effort in signing Bellingham.

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13 Jan 2022 09:10:28
So would I, but I don’t think we can rely on our owners.

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10 Jan 2022 15:25:51
I agree, being at the game it was frustrating (albeit understandable) to choose the backwards option as opposed to driving forward or whipping in a cross.

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21 Nov 2021 19:17:27
Thanks Ed, fingers crossed they continue to improve and take their chances.

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17 Nov 2021 08:36:36
Always thought we should keep him.

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