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27 May 2014 16:39:19
Hey eds,

Just wanted to know whether the club are interested in getting both xherdan shaqiri and adam lallana


{Ed002's Note - I don't know but there is interest in both.}




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19 Mar 2021 16:59:38
I wanted to avoid Munich, city and PSG in the draw. Chelsea I was a bit iffy on as I think they’ve improved drastically since tuchel has come in, Madrid and Dortmund were the next ones down where if we missed out on Porto, I would want one of them even though they’re strong teams also. I just think Madrid aren’t the same animals anymore, but then again neither are we. Let’s hope revenge is on our mind and we really go for the CL this year because lord knows top 4 is gone.

We are definitely in the more favourable side of the draw.


1.) 19 Mar 2021 18:19:22
Yep I agree we have the easier draw on paper. But Dortmund are a very average side. Worse than RBL.

2.) 19 Mar 2021 18:19:47
Chelsea just have new manager bounce; they look better but they aren't anything special, id expect us to beat them with fab in the midfield.

3.) 19 Mar 2021 19:30:28
Kante is still better IMO.

4.) 19 Mar 2021 22:04:03
Chelsea have scored 15 goals in 13 games. That’s nothing to write home about really. Yes, they are harder to beat cos Tuchel plays a more defensive style for now but if they ever have to chase a game, they could b unreal trouble. We shall see.

5.) 20 Mar 2021 05:46:14
real madrid have won something like 16 of their last 22 games. And they're getting pieces back. I get what everyone is saying, but Real have been trending upwards recently I would say. It will be a massive ask for Kabak and Phillips given the gap in class, but obviously we go in with full faith that our lads will turn up for the fight!

{Ed077's Note - they've mostly been playing horribly. They struggle against even the lowest placed teams in La Liga. Benzema has been bailing them out many many times.}

6.) 20 Mar 2021 11:45:14
winning is winning double7. Although to be fair, I'm more making the point that 'on paper' this isn't really that favorable haha they are winning, getting players back and have pedigree. well anyways, any of the teams would have been a tough matchup really.



04 Feb 2021 14:46:40
With the mentally and physically fatigued comment made by klopp last night, I would be interested to know if anyone knows which teams have had the most time off during the December- present period of football. I seem to remember us being the team with the most time in between matches in January and anytime we did have a long period in between matches we performed badly and didn’t look fresh anyway. It would be an interesting observation if anyone has an accurate account of it.


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool had more time off when compared to the other leading clubs in December but it makes little difference in players tiring. It is happening with many cases.}

1.) 04 Feb 2021 17:02:24
Why limit it to December to now? This is a condensed season, every month is like a typical December.
If you look at someone like Andy Robertson, he has played over 3000 minutes for club and country this season. Compare that to a player like Luke Shaw who has played less than 2000 minutes this season.
Is it a coincidence that one of these players looks knackered and the other is being called the best left back in the league?

{Ed047's Note - the best left back in the league, Tierney I assume your talking about!

2.) 04 Feb 2021 16:40:30
Sometimes you’ve just got to stop blaming everyone and everything and take responsibility. We’re not trying hard enough.

3.) 04 Feb 2021 18:56:25
FC8 I totally agree mate, the players are not playing for Kopp this season.

{Ed001's Note - then you know nothing about these players if you think that.}

4.) 04 Feb 2021 19:59:55
Opps, the players have "downed tools" again. They lifted them up for the Spurs and West Ham games but they're back down again. 😅😅.



11 Jan 2021 20:29:32
And the theme continues yet again for about the fourth/ fifth season running of us getting difficult early ties whilst city get byes on their way to the final. The day city finally get a difficult group in the CL or a top team early in the domestic cups will be the day I run around my street naked, mind you I’ll probably be a senior citizen by then so it’ll make for even prettier viewing for the neighbours. Absolute joke these draws and no wonder klopp doesn’t take the domestic competitions seriously, as much as I would like him to.


1.) 11 Jan 2021 20:43:15
So Crouchie was fixing it for Citeh? Did he have a secret ball up his sleeve?

2.) 11 Jan 2021 21:29:20
It's a conspiracy!

3.) 11 Jan 2021 21:34:50
Bar about 4 teams most ties would be classed as easy for them!

All draws are pure luck and we have a tough tie, but two wins against united in a week and I think our season would look entirely different. Onwards and upwards!

4.) 11 Jan 2021 22:06:39
Give yourself a slap!

5.) 11 Jan 2021 22:50:03
27 cup games in klopps time we’ve faced 17 have been a premier league team no wonder it’s not klopps fav.

6.) 12 Jan 2021 08:32:34
Beat them all - we are Liverpool!

7.) 12 Jan 2021 09:02:07
OP, I thought that was really funny. I fully agree with you, as well. I know there is no funny business here BUT you have to wonder how City keep getting these easy opponents in the Dom. Cups while we have gotten Chelsea twice in the FA Cup/ League Cup last year and the year before, Utd in this FA Cup, Wolves in the FA Cup in 18/ 19 and the beat goes on. Interesting.

8.) 12 Jan 2021 21:42:11
Someone did an analysis a few years ago of random draws in cup competitions across Europe. Long story short - matches with a narrative element were much more common than they statistically should be in every competition except the champions league. Definitely doesn't say that they are fixed at all but it is an interesting feature from 20 years of draws how often local rivals and grudge matched from the previous season get drawn.



30 Nov 2020 16:02:19
I think for the next two upcoming games we go as full strength as possible (which given the injuries is not much different from what we have been seeing anyway) . I think we need to stick with matip and Fabinho as the CB pairing for the Ajax and wolves games, I don’t mind kostas playing one of these games although I’d like Robertson to play both. Neco Williams I suspect has to play both games as Milner and TAA are both out but whenever Milner is fit enough to go back to right back I would make that switch ASAP until Trent is back, I have not been impressed with neco, and whilst I’d still give him chances to prove himself, I still am worried with him at right back, just as I am with Williams at centre back, I haven’t seen anything from either of them that suggests they’re pushing any of our current first teamers in those positions unfortunately.

In midfield, we have a whole host of injuries, Milner, Keita, ox, Thiago all out. So I’m glad we have at least Henderson and Gini left out of our options because those are two of our more important midfielders. Stick with them for these two games obviously, and with them I guess it has to be either firmino or minamino reluctantly. I don’t think we work well in that sort of system, almost a 4-2-3-1, but it’s our best chance of getting the best team out there.

Up top speaks for itself, a variation of Salah, mane, jota and firmino depending on where Klopp decides to put firmino. I think we have to go full strength for these games, both very important games for me, we beat Ajax and we have Midtjylland left in the group away from home but a very winnable game for even a second string team (resting some of the others) . At least a draw in that game and we finish top, and with Ajax and Atalanta playing each other in the other game, anything could happen. We just need to ensure we beat Ajax tomorrow. And then our next premier league game after wolves is Fulham away, so midtjylland and Fulham are the games I say we rest and rotate players. Against Atlanta and to an extent against Brighton I don’t think we played the best team we could, so we need to do that this week to get back on track.

All very much obvious, but I seem to see a lot of people preferring the rotating approach and Klopp himself is doing that a lot to avoid further injury, I get the thinking but I think take the risks for the next couple games as we need to win them. A lot of players come back relatively soon as well and January is coming so we have to limp over the line until then.


1.) 30 Nov 2020 20:21:56
some good news is that Trent is on the way back, he is out on the pitch doing some easy work and should be back to full tam training soon .

2.) 30 Nov 2020 21:32:24
Allison has C.V. so you can forget that.



20 Sep 2020 18:58:31
I don’t want to see anymore questions about the Thiago transfer. That is why we bought him, and in the same game we saw why Klopp might have been willing to let wiji go to bring him in, in the first place. Great result and firmly shut the door on franks Chelsea being on our level.


1.) 20 Sep 2020 19:00:35
Boom, what a result. I didn't get to see the game unfortunately but well chuffed!

{Ed0666's Note - You missed a Fabhino & Thiago clinic mate.

2.) 20 Sep 2020 19:00:52
Half-time substitute Thiago completed more passes (75) than any Chelsea player managed in the entire match. Since full passing data is available for the Premier League (2003-04), his 75 successful passes are the most by a player who played a maximum of 45 minutes. Control.

{Ed0666's Note - oh mate Im already drooling over Thiago don’t make it worse with stats like that. When he came on I stopped watching the game and concentrated on Thiago. He gave the ball away once I think possibly twice and his positioning was just exemplary. If he stays healthy he’s gonna be soccer porn.

3.) 20 Sep 2020 19:04:22
What have we just signed?! 😂 Did you all see that? We’re about to enter a new level with Thiago.

{Ed0666's Note - I cannot keep eulogizing about Thiago I’ve run out of words and tissues

4.) 20 Sep 2020 19:13:25
Kman2, my thoughts exactly Thiago was class, is class and will be class the guy is just class. No more talk of “not sure if we need him”.

5.) 20 Sep 2020 19:37:24
Ed people will feel us as arrogant now😂😂😂we are going to keep going on and on and on about thiago haha.

{Ed0666's Note - I stopped caring what people thought about me ions ago mate. My life is much more enjoyable for it.

6.) 20 Sep 2020 20:39:08
I had serious reservations about his age, injury record and if he’d be too lightweight. Well, in 45 minutes he answered that. He looked a world class midfielder, always found space, knew where his team mates would be, played simple passes and difficult passes easily, snapped into some tackles and showed his strength belies his frame. I’m fully converted, tremendous signing. As for Fabinho, he’s clearly Baressi’s long lost twin!

{Ed025's Note - oh come 6 times for christs sake!!, he played ok for 45 minutes and gave away a pen and thats world class???, come on mate get a grip, im not saying hes not by the way but lets have some perspective ffs mate..

7.) 20 Sep 2020 20:37:13
Was that really a Thiago clinic ed666? I think your favoritism is clouding your judgement. He was decent (verging towards good) but it was clear to see he arrived just 2 days ago. The signs are promising and he looks like he will easily fit into the team but come on he wasnt that great.

BTW is it just me who thought that wasnt a penalty. A very soft penalty. If Bruno had won a pen like that you guys would be shouting out your lungs imo.

{Ed0666's Note - I’m sorry if you didn’t see anything but a clinic of passing, positioning and all round how to pay in midfield. He’s had one training session with us and completes more passes In 45 mins than any Chelsea player on the pitch and since the inception of opta stats in 2003 has completed the most passes of any player in opta history whose been on the pitch for 45 mins. It was a clinic mate.

8.) 20 Sep 2020 21:24:11
6Times, I was also not sure about Thiago due to his age and injury record and if it was worth the wages to sign such a guy even tho his talent, is undeniable BUT hey, what do I knew?

Ed25, Thiago is world class and we all know that, including you. Him giving away a penalty does not remove from that fact. On the game today, I thought he was very good for a guy who just arrived 2 days ago. No more. No less.

Also, what's your prob? If we want to gas ourselves over with a truly phenomenal talent then, what's your beef? Allow us to go crazy just as your lot are allowed to go crazy over James, Allan and the rest. You are top of the league. Awesome. Go crazy. And allow us to feel awesome and go crazy over Thiago. Peace and Love.

{Ed025's Note - i have said hes excellent RM, but some are eulogising today like he played a blinder!, he done ok, and you know me better than to think i laud everton players who dont deserve it my friend..




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24 Apr 2021 22:23:39
Red flyer, there’s no chance we can rebuild and bring in the players we need with no CL, and I’m sorry but at this point that’s klopp and the players fault, as we’ve had another great opportunity to walk through an open door and fluffed it against Newcastle and Leeds. FSG have backed klopp enough imo, I don’t think that’s been a huge question mark for me, but now, due to the C.V., it’ll be hard not to sell assets in order to break even and reinvest. Some players needs to move on regardless and klopps favourite firmino is one of them, at least this means he would stop constantly playing him. Also ‘stay at the top’ we aren’t there anymore mate, we’ve got to start over. But I do understand your sentiments, I just don’t think it’s feasible for FSG to be able to do that, we either work within our means, which is jack rubbish, or they sell in order for us to be in a position to rebuild this team.




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24 Apr 2021 22:16:45
We love an injury prone player, a lot of decisions at the club are starting to get more and more baffling when you assess them.




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15 Apr 2021 14:08:33
Mane and firminos cycles have come to an end at liverpool as consistent first teamers. Firminos decline has been for a couple seasons now and it’s been clear for a while we’ve needed an upgrade in that position, especially when you take into account we were about to bring in Werner in the summer. I personally think firmino should move on and it would be best for all parties, he gets a fresh start and the club tries to upgrade with hopefully a decent fee from his sale. At most he should only be a squad player, if he is to stay, but somehow I see us persisting with him in the starting 11, much to our detriment. Mane is following the same trend, we see glimpses of the old mane but he’s lost his edge, we see more of the poor sides of mane that we’ve come to see in recent years rather than the good sides. I’m still willing to give him time, but I just think his fate is the same as firminos at the moment. Both need fresh starts and we need decent fees from their sales, problem is salah could force his way out and that leaves us in a whole heap of problems, if salah wasn’t an issue and was guaranteed to stay at the club then I would let mane and firmino go and try bring in better performing players offensively in a heart beat.




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08 Mar 2021 18:48:28
The double standards mane gets as oppose to salah has always baffled me, salah consistently assists more goals than mane but salah is selfish and mane is not. I understand where the narrative comes from but it’s a myth that mane is selfless, he isn’t, he’s just simply not as good as salah. Never was and never will be, he’s been important to us and we will see how he ends the season, some players have come to the end of their cycles here and it’s better for both parties to cash in while the stock is high. Players like firmino and mane are potentially on that list. Salah would only go reluctantly, because I believe he is the player that makes the most impact currently and we would be the hardest hit from him leaving. Mane and certainly firmino are both quickly becoming dispensable players.




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01 Feb 2021 14:19:11
I don’t understand the disrespect we’ve shown towards Phillips, he’s been very good for us more often than not but hasn’t been afforded the same opportunities Rhys Williams has even though at this stage, he’s twice the player williams is. I think with sepp van der berg leaving to go Preston on loan, I would also look to send Rhys out on loan and keep Phillips in the fold with the first team.

Minamino and Phillips surely have done something wrong to klopp.





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21 Apr 2021 15:04:48
From a business stand point, I understood what they were trying to do, but it was the complete antithesis of what football was built on. We’ve seen money completely corrupt the sport up to now but this was a major step in that direction, it wasn’t subtle at all, it was completely changing the model of how club football will be structured at the highest level. Let’s see how they would like it if you decided to completely change the structure of their beloved MLB or NBA and make it a genuine meritocracy with a promotion/ demotion type structure, will they not be up in arms? In fact I find it funny how they don’t just do what they tried to do with us, with their own sports franchises, put the lakers, Celtics, knicks, bulls etc all in a separate competition that would be competed all across the world, since they are the teams that have generated the most views and in turn the most money to the nba. I’m guessing that’s not a possibility legally but the point remains, how dare they try to taint our sport pyramid when they aren’t willing to take those steps with their own major sports.




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21 Apr 2021 15:12:14
I’m going to go full conspiracy theorist and say even if there are public sanctions/ punishments handed out, I think uefa, the FA and whoever else involved will take it to the pitch as well and give these teams some dubious officiating for their troubles. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we just kept getting the short end of the stick on officiating to hurt us on the pitch, they already are at times as it is.




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21 Apr 2021 00:00:57
Ed2, that doesn’t exactly discount what bastion is trying to say, he’s literally just said that millions of Liverpool fans are completely opposed to what the owners are doing and want them out of the club but you keep antagonising Liverpool fans any opportunity you get. I’ve always appreciated your work on here but it’s a trend I see all to often, I think you’ve received a lot of grief from Liverpool fans in the past and most probably still do, and it’s the most you get from any fan base because this site is mostly populated with Liverpool fans. I just see a lot of times there will be a conversation about what another club has done, and your response will always harp back to how bad everything about Liverpool is and then when fans of Liverpool do the exact same thing in another completely unrelated discussion, you say ‘you’re embarrassing trying to make this about Chelsea or city or so and so to excuse your own club’. You have a massive chip on your shoulder about Liverpool.

To put perspective on it, and I know you’ll hate this because you hate comparisons to other clubs. But Chelsea have broken a ton of rules in the past and I believe you are a fan of that club. You bring up the Suarez example, I hope you beat Chelsea fans with the same stick who champion John terry as a legend even though he was caught on video being racist and received much softer consequences on the back of it. But I don’t believe you do beat Chelsea fans with the same stick, in fact I don’t think you do this to any of the other fans, because there’s much less of them on this site, so less vitriol coming from them. I know you’ll come back with ‘it’s Liverpool fans that do this and that and the other’ as if Liverpool fans are the only ones that bring negativity. Open the doors of Twitter and see the results for yourself, it seems to have spread and your beloved Chelsea fans are a big proponent of it.

Saying daglish purely lost his job because of the Suarez saga is nonsense, that may have been the stated reason but it’s not the be all and end all. The owners never wanted him in the first place but they thought he would bring the club stability, he did initially, then him and comolli spunked millions on average English players, and we are talking almost a 100mill on them (which at the time was unheard of for Liverpool), he and the club finished 8th in the league and he took us to two cup finals winning one of them. That was never deemed as success and the fans thought daglish was well past it, and he was, let’s face it, we would have never achieved top 4 with daglish, it was one of if not our worst ever league finish in the PL era. Rodgers was wanted out for a similar thing a few seasons later even though he got us the closest to a PL title until klopp came in. Daglish was wanted out for underachieving after spending huge on average talent, the same way Rodgers was wanted out, for the fans it had little to do with the Suarez saga.


{Ed002's Note - This is the sort of bile that keeps coming up. I have explained the entire breakaway concept to the Liverpool page truthfully for years when you had no other information at all. I get constant abuse from the cocksuckers who don’t believe it. I get abuse by the vegetables on Sunday about it and I have been abused today about everything I have shared. There is no point in my sharing information on any of these issues any longer - Dalgleish list his job because of the shirt situation and I told you all that night. I have no idea why you want to bring John Terry in to this and suggest you go back to read what I wrote about that at the time - another clear attempt at deflection by a Liverpool supporter. Exactly my point - than k you for proving it.}



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20 Apr 2021 13:12:15
Juicer, I don’t think that system would work in a sport that was built on a completely different premise. The nba, nfl evolved into what it is today and remains very popular in North America, they aren’t exactly globalised sports even if they’re broadcasted globally, where are the popular nba or nfl teams from abroad? There are none that anyone cares about anyway. Maybe that’s based on their geography but the structure of their sports is also what the problem is. British sports have always been based on a different premise and they’re much more globalised and I think cricket and football are both more popular than any American sport.

Essentially, I’ll liken this to many of the foreign things the Americans end up tainting. For example, they take a film or a show from a foreign country that was extremely popular, they make their own version of it, and it ends up being a complete and utter flop, I haven’t seen an example of it working out yet. You won’t be able to Americanise football, especially when the sentiments the fans have vanish once liverpool isn’t based in liverpool anymore and we end up playing loads of our ‘home’ games in the states or China. Anfield won’t even be a factor anymore.




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20 Apr 2021 13:44:21
Zedd, ironically, I’ve seen you mention the wwe and anyone that is a wrestling fan would know what happened with the plight of professional wrestling. They used to have a territorial structure which they all peacefully coexisted with, creating competition amongst each other and in turn massive popularity which extended globally. Then one company came in (wwf at the time) and bought out most of the major territories in order to nationalise that company and only that company, it was essentially monopoly. Once wwf beat out any competition that decided to match them and nationalise (wcw mainly) they became the forefront of professional wrestling and the only place you could go for it, whether you wanted to be an employee or a fan. It worked for maybe a decade at most surviving on the previous buzz pro wrestling had for decades before becoming washed up and absent of the premise it once had. Now there are no stars, far far far less of an audience and they’ve sold their soul to outside investors and made it a publicly traded company with scripts for just about everything.

The point I’m trying to make is, once competition was gone, and the rules of competition became stricter the product went down the toilet. You can’t change a structure that was built from the ground up, prospered for a century, then try to change the whole base of it over night and expect it not to fall down, the same thing will happen here with the ESL, LFC will have no affinity with Liverpool and anfield anymore once it’s eventually not even based there, which will end up happening.