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16 Jan 2021 12:29:39
Wasn't Lonergan at Stoke? He is at the bench for WBA's game today.

1.) 16 Jan 2021 12:40:57
He moved start of jan
Random question, why is a foul on the line a penalty but if you shoot and hit any bar it's not a shot on target?

2.) 16 Jan 2021 12:51:26
Cus bookies are c#%#%!

3.) 16 Jan 2021 12:52:24
Yeah I thought it was outside too. Replays never proved the opposite. Yet VAR didn't overturn the referee decision. I still don't know if it was completely outside tho, replays that was given to us were never good enough, the angle was ridiculous.

4.) 16 Jan 2021 14:04:28
Because if it hits the bar it won't go in. Quite obvious really.

5.) 16 Jan 2021 14:58:55
Riomazy well of the foul it's on the line, it's not in then? Quiet obviasly really? 😅.

6.) 16 Jan 2021 17:39:02
So what you’re saying Mart is because a foul on the line is a penalty then if you hit the bar it’s a goal? I quite like that idea actually. Crossbar challenge!

7.) 17 Jan 2021 02:12:45
Here's a thought for you, Jamesred93, with current offside rules, if you are fouled with your feet outside the box but your arm is in the box should it be a penalty?

8.) 17 Jan 2021 02:29:57
Sometimes it hits the bar and goes in.

9.) 17 Jan 2021 10:31:20
@redmersey. But if it hits the bar and goes in, it counts as a shot on target. If it doesn't, it wasn't on target.

10.) 19 Jan 2021 00:02:15
The line is in the penalty area.
The bar stops the ball from crossing the goal line.



18 May 2019 22:13:09
The World Club Cup is on hold while they revamp it to a once every 4 year summer tournament. So it’s likely even if we win the CL we won’t get to compete in the WCC.

Is that true?

{Ed025's Note - im not sure marto..

1.) 18 May 2019 22:58:19
While it’s hard to find information about the FIFA Club World Cup 2019, Morocco has declared an Interest to hold the tournament in 2019 and 2020. Since 2009, hosts federations hold the tournament in 2 consecutive years.

Expect this and next seasons FIFA WCC to go ahead. FIFA are trying to push through with their plans to replace this tournament with a larger version.

2.) 18 May 2019 23:54:35
Isn’t the club World Cup one of those things that you probably don’t want to play in. going half way across the world for 2 weeks in the middle of the season for a bunch o friendly games.

3.) 19 May 2019 12:30:50
Firmane, If Morocco hosts the tournament I don't see that as an issue for LFC. As this will be a fligh to north Africa comparable to a flight for visiting a CL side.

4.) 19 May 2019 13:56:59
Extra games you don’t really want.

{Ed002's Note - And the League Cup and FA Cup of course - many Liverpool fans don't think they are worth anything either. Same was said about the Premier League last week.}

5.) 19 May 2019 14:50:36
It's worth what you think it's worth. It's one of the few (only? ) tournaments we've never won, so it's worth winning for the prestige of adding it to the list of tournaments we've won.

6.) 19 May 2019 14:53:40
Great opportunity and prestigious enough seeing as you have to win the champions league for entry. 😆.

7.) 19 May 2019 14:58:28
Winning trophies is a habitual thing. The likes of the Super Cup, Community Shield, Club World Cup, Carabao Cup etc might not be major trophies, but they are trophies.

{Ed025's Note - so is the one for the egg and spoon race at our lady of the assumption U9,s MK....and would have the same prestige mate..

8.) 19 May 2019 16:27:40
Trophies are trophies guys, if we win the CL and compete in the CWC, then it's just another peice of silverware to win.

9.) 19 May 2019 15:44:58
Ed025, I normally agree with your comments, but nothing in my opinion is too small, even the egg and spoon race. If I'm playing a game of Monopoly, you bet I'm going to try my best to not let anyone buy matching colour sets so they can start building hotels.

Liverpool should be aiming to win every competition they compete in, otherwise what's the point of entering? If it's "too small" then ask to be omitted from the tournament out of respect for the other teams in it. But no matter how "small" the Community Shield is, it will still make my day to see Liverpool lifting it. That doesn't mean I'm copping out of wanting my team to win the title or Europe, but winning is winning, it's a shiny metal trophy, as is the carabao - and I'm feeling greedy for metal! Ultimately, I'd rather be placing hotels on Mayfair and bankrupting my friends than them doing that to me, or not playing at all.

{Ed025's Note - thats a bit needy of you if you dont mind me saying adam, i would like to think liverpool are above needing pointless trophy,s and should be concentrating on the bigger stuff for me mate, it would be a terrible shame if one of your stars got an injury in one of these worthless encounters and were out for the season, take tiger woods and all the other big stars of golf, they concentrate on the majors and leave all the fodder to the less talented, there is a reason why they do that..

10.) 19 May 2019 17:34:06
Ed025, Everton would still finish outside the top 6 even in that event 😉.

{Ed025's Note - i would have taken that after our mid season collapse MK, but we are back now mate so watch your backs.. :)

11.) 19 May 2019 17:43:20
It’s still two weeks out the season, even if we use youth etc we’d still be playing twice a week for most weeks of the year.

12.) 19 May 2019 21:07:39
Pointless tournament, but if we win we get that Crest on our shirts for a year which will make it all worth it.

13.) 19 May 2019 22:42:08
then we need a bigger squad to cope with all these extra matches, plus more game time for the fringe players and younger players like Brewster
if we get better luck in the FA Cup and League Cup draws, we should be taking them a bit more serious too,
think the FA might even look after us, just like they do the other big sides .

14.) 19 May 2019 23:01:59
Lets win the champions league first before we moan about the pros and cons of the Club world cup .

15.) 20 May 2019 03:30:42
Big tournaments or little tournaments, City would have not won their historic treble had they not won the little tournaments. Grant it they probably had the easiest path to each final. For us losing the PL did not hurt as much as in 2014. Because then there was not much optimism that we would be back the following year to compete. Hell to be honest, I did not think we would be in back to back finals. I would like silverware, but for it to complement the PL or Champions League crown.

16.) 19 May 2019 19:41:59
You make a very good point about injury, ed, I can't argue with that. Injury before the season is even underway would be devastating. In an ideal world, those players in our squad who aren't regularly starting would be able to play in the cup matches and provide real quality. We didn't have that against Wolves and I feel we paid the price. Perhaps someone like Brewster should have started instead of Sturridge (but he may have still been injured) . You make very good points and I can't argue with them, I will be watching the Community Shield wincing at times. That said, I'd love to see us win, I still can't take it as a friendly like most supporters on here. You mention other stars like Tiger Woods, but I bet you Federer in his prime would have been mopping up every minor tournament as he builds up to a grand slam.

17.) 20 May 2019 11:26:30
Tiger woods has won 81 PGA tour events, he goes to win every event he enters. We should be the same, players can get injuries at anytime, yes we could rest players or give others a chance but I would like to see us try r best to win everything we r in.

18.) 20 May 2019 14:31:07
I went to OLA ed025!

{Ed025's Note - ahh a good catholic boy then flidby, i went to sir thomas a becket myself mate but it got knocked down about 40 years ago..

19.) 21 May 2019 00:46:21
Tiger is resting now cos he is old. Oh, I suppose there is a lesson in that. I reckon ya go in, respect the competition and play to win. It'd be pretty cool to win a title that at least on paper states you are a world champ.

20.) 20 May 2019 22:08:08
Was that after you issued the words “who will rid me of this troublesome school” Ed 😜.

{Ed025's Note - great historical knowledge there EX, unfortunately i resemble henry VIII rather than henry II these days mate.. :)



09 May 2019 12:32:41
Is there a contract on the table for Milner? I know about the situation with Leeds, but has LFC shown interest to keep him? Hopefully yes.

{Ed001's Note - yes.}

1.) 09 May 2019 13:11:15
Awesome news! Not that I wish Leeds falure to get promoted, but I really hope to see Milner stay at least for another season.

2.) 09 May 2019 14:08:56
I really like Milner but if we buy 2 new full backs and a Brandt type player I just don't think he will get the games he requires.

Brandt type

If Fabs plays most games as the holding midfielder then that only leaves 2 places. I don't think he will want to stay just as cover.
Maybe even Trent for a few games.

3.) 09 May 2019 15:01:09
When does his contract expire Ed? Sly saying end of this season but I thought it was next?

{Ed002's Note - Next season I think.}

4.) 09 May 2019 15:12:36
Cheers mate I thought so myself.

5.) 09 May 2019 16:44:24
Hope Big Div gets a new contract 👍.

6.) 09 May 2019 17:46:03
Milner offers more than on the pitch, if he is happier not playing as much, he should stay. Can cover fullbacks as well. Know won’t let us down, role model, vice captain, plus with Keita and ox having regular injuries this year, he may be needed more than we think.

Games like Tuesday, I’d rather Milner than Keita as it stands.

7.) 09 May 2019 17:48:56
Agreed Ron, definitely good enough to be our second striker.

8.) 09 May 2019 18:07:23
No amount of money can buy Milners experience, dedication and heart.
Said it during the game on Tuesday that when he does leave he will be sorely missed.

{Ed025's Note - your dead right verdo..

9.) 10 May 2019 01:55:32
I'd love to see him stay, always reliable and despite his age he takes care of himself impeccably so can still play at a high level. More importantly he's a fantastic person and his attitude is what you need around a squad.

Seeing him in tears after Barcelona game sums him up as a player and person.

10.) 10 May 2019 05:44:14
100% verdo.
It would be easier replacing Salah if/ when he goes than replacing Millie.
Will a life time supply of Ribena do the trick?

11.) 10 May 2019 13:02:06
I don't think a player has changed my opinion of them as much as Milner has done since he has been with us. What a pro, what consistent effort and love for the game in general and just gets on with the job wherever he is asked to play, even when he is open about his preferences. I would move heaven and earth to keep him at LFC now and will be gutted if he decides to move on.

12.) 10 May 2019 22:09:58
We owe Milner BIG time, he has been such a professional, I reckon he'd don a set of GK gloves and play there if asked. Deserves a trophy with LFC . he'll definitely Never Walk Alone!

13.) 11 May 2019 12:56:21
westwood could not agree with you more when we signed him I thought what are we signing him for Mr reliable. but for me I all ways thought 6/ 10 but he has been at least an 8/ 10 most games. And the season he played left back when he signed to play Cm and just got on with it with no fuss great pro don't get many like him any more think we are very lucky to have a few of them in are club.

14.) 14 May 2019 10:25:26
Don't forget he's a sound penalty taker.



23 Apr 2019 14:41:54
The Reds are said to value the midfielder at €40 million (£34.6m) . And that's for Grujic.? I can't belive that. Atletico willing to pay this amount to get him as Rodri replacement. If we do sale him for 40 mil this will be some buisness.

{Ed002's Note - It would be a good return on screwing his career up for a while.}

1.) 23 Apr 2019 14:58:51
Very true edd 2, it won't be the last player either. To be fair all clubs have done this in the past but our record over last few years not been great.

{Ed002's Note - I'm not sure all of the clubs have done this.}

2.) 23 Apr 2019 14:59:15
Wow the money in the game is truly obscene.

3.) 23 Apr 2019 15:02:21
I don’t get how we have screwed up his career? He was signed and when he was deemed not good enough, he has been loaned out. This literally happens with hundreds of players every season.

{Ed002's Note - Signed on the basis of being lied to; work permit on the basis of a lie; not used and loaned out.}

4.) 23 Apr 2019 15:33:04
was he lied to because he was going to play. but he was not good enough to get when he came then that's up to him to step up. don't see how that's screwing up his career have utd screw up freds career have Chelsea screwed up danny drinkwaters career players move to clubs and it does not work out they have to take it on there self's to push to get in the team when he did play he did not do enough to stay in the team. look at Henderson think it was Rodgers that tried to sell him but he refused to go and stayed and battle for his place. david beckham did the same at madrid got sent to train with the youth players under Fabio Capello but we carried on working hard and got back in the team.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp is a compulsive liar when it comes to recruitment. There is nothing new. It is nothing to do with Drinkwater. You need to step back from making embarrassing excuses for Liverpool and Klopp. It is what it is.}

5.) 23 Apr 2019 15:33:22
After the messing around the player has had it would be a good move all round, think he would do well in Spain in a Simone team. Maybe even develop into a 50/ 60 million pound player if he can do it in the champions league etc.

6.) 23 Apr 2019 15:57:27
klopp didn't buy Grujic and the player was never in his plans when Grujic finally arrived. But i'm sure if he was klopps type of player he would have made it work.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp lied, got Liverpool to buy him, lied to the appeals committee, didn’t play him and let him go on loan.}

7.) 23 Apr 2019 16:00:10
Is there truth that AM are looking at him then Ed or not please?

{Ed002's Note - He cannot get a work permit because of what has been done. Clubs will look to him.}

8.) 23 Apr 2019 16:10:40
Is there truth to this rumour ed?

{Ed002's Note - There is interest in him.}

9.) 23 Apr 2019 16:40:42
Re: Klopp and Grujic, what was in it for Klopp to lie to acquire him? Did he lie and say that he was going to play him when in reality he was looking to improve squad depth, and Grujic was going to have to win his place? If he was truthful about Grujic having to compete for his place, would the move have been shot down internally?

{Ed002's Note - He told the player and the WP committee he would be played regularly. There is nothing new in this - he has been a liar for years and years. Just rather embarrassing these attempts to defend him.}

10.) 23 Apr 2019 16:51:13
Ed002, appreciate the (often repeated) details at the expense of your own aggravation! Being relatively new to this board, I hadn't heard much on this before. Thank you!

11.) 23 Apr 2019 16:57:26
Whether klopp said he would play him or not, when the player was not up to the standard required, he was loaned out! What is Klopp supposed to do? Carry on playing him even though he’s not good enough? If he had stepped up and improved, he would have played! You seem to have a personal vendetta against klopp and Liverpool.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp is a compulsive liar - there have been numerous examples like this, try not to make pitiful excuses - it is very embarrassing. I appreciate you don’t want the truth. Klopp is a liar and a cheat.}

12.) 23 Apr 2019 17:04:18
With all this info being readily available (albeit her thanks to the all knowing eds) is there a reason Klopp hasn't been brought to persecution? I mean I've read of several dodgy transfer dealings on here, he must of been like this at Dortmund too. I'm sure a sting merchant journo would love a high profile victim like Liverpool/ Klopp.

13.) 23 Apr 2019 17:38:47
Ed002s constant attempts to make Klopp look like the worlds worst man is hilarious Hahahaha.

{Ed002's Note - Would ypou like to point out something that is incorrect?}

14.) 23 Apr 2019 17:38:40
Does he not already have a work permit? IF not how has he made 14 previous appearances for us?

{Ed002's Note - No, he needs a new work permit.}

15.) 23 Apr 2019 18:08:21
klopp could be a champions league winner and premier league winner by the end may.

swings and roundabouts. there's a talent you want, id lie if it meant getting around pathetic bureaucracy, work permits are a load of tosh. they expect you to make a prediction on a young players success before they can buy a pint. this causes people to lie to get around it.

klopp doesn't lie and grujic is now on his way to Barcelona from Marseille for 80 mil it's another ' we got it wrong

This does not make it easy to accept the wrongs in grujic treatment but an understanding.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp is a compulsive liar - and these pitiful attempts to justify it are a complete joke.}

16.) 23 Apr 2019 18:24:26
Sorry but nievity. but generally all I hear is how the player love working under klopp. if my boss was a compulsive liar I would not enjoy working for him.

{Ed002's Note - Naive.}

17.) 23 Apr 2019 17:38:40
Does he not already have a work permit? IF not how has he made 14 previous appearances for us?

{Ed002's Note - He left the country to play elsewhere and will need a new one.}

18.) 23 Apr 2019 17:38:47
Ed002s constant attempts to make Klopp look like the worlds worst man is hilarious Hahahaha.

{Ed002's Note - You want to tell me exactly what is untrue here? Moron.}

19.) 23 Apr 2019 18:40:48
Ed02, Klopp must have done something really bad to you (or one of your clients? ) for you to hold such a poisonous grudge against him. Care to share?

{Ed002's Note - I don’t have any grudge against him. People just don’t like the truth and I don’t like cheats and liars.}

20.) 23 Apr 2019 18:54:37
Klopp is what klopp is not defending him just sayinh
but how many players do Chelsea have out on loan
last count it was something like 43 or maybe even higher
they have a nigerian left back who has been out on loan something like 5 seasons in a row
surely this is worse then what is happening with Grujic.

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what any of this has to do with Chelsea. You certainly know how to embarras yourselves. And I am pretty sure that Chelsea don't have a liar and a cheat as a coach.}

21.) 23 Apr 2019 19:01:27
nothing to do with Chelsea you highighted one liverpool player I highlighted 43 chelsea players
im sure a few of them were made promises about first team chances
and wp were obtained by saying they would play and were players who would not be loaned out but given first team chances
You always seem to make comments about liverpool which we all appreciate
I made one about Chelsea with no harm intended.

{Ed002's Note - I didn't raise the issue, one of the supporters did. There is no issue with Chelsea having players on loan. They have not been lied to - you are just embarrassing everyone trying to make it about someone else.}

22.) 23 Apr 2019 19:08:06
To all above posters, please leave it as it is, for the sake of he site! Last thing we need or want is Ed002 pissed off with us and as a result not sharing information with us! Ed002, I fit one agree and can see what you are saying in that Klopp does and has previously made promises he can’t or doesn’t stick to.

23.) 23 Apr 2019 19:10:53
I will stop as the point im making seems to be lost in you trying to go a different path
chelsea are no saints when signing players klopp tells lies according to you and we have to accept that
thank you for all your info mate much appreicated.

{Ed002's Note - You have not actually said what Chelsea has done wrong - you just seem intent on deflecting away from the Liverpool coach.}

24.) 23 Apr 2019 19:17:20
Mate we cannot on a open forum be in fear of posting where there has not been any insults towards an ed or disrespect
im sure ED002 is not so bothered that he would take offence at anything written above.

{Ed002's Note - I am in tears.}

25.) 23 Apr 2019 19:19:11
That Jurgen is an awful rascal! telling porky pies like that, how are all the other saintly managers meant to beat him? 😂.

{Ed002's Note - See, you can make a joke of it. How much has Liverpool lost in face and financially because of him. Maybe you should consider that?}

26.) 23 Apr 2019 19:19:26
Klopp is neither a cheat nor a liar.

{Ed002's Note - Bottom of the pile looking up I am afraid.}

27.) 23 Apr 2019 19:25:40
Uh huh, just above you Ed.

{Ed002's Note - I am sure the fans of other sides will love you for just dragging it all out and making everyone look really stupid.}

28.) 23 Apr 2019 19:29:12
I say loan him out for another season, unless after watching him in pre season a decision is made that he's good enough to play a part next year. He only signed a new contract last summer, is having a very good season in germany and is improving all the time. Athletico and Simeone don't sign bad players.

{Ed002's Note - The work permit is the issue.}

29.) 23 Apr 2019 19:45:24
In fairness when he wins the double this year im sure he'll be forgiven for the face and financial losses the club has incurred. I doubt he loses sleep over it, i certainly don't lie awake at night worrying about what a scoundrel we have taking us to the title.

30.) 23 Apr 2019 19:50:01
What is it with some people? Ed02 has an opinion of Klopp, no doubt informed by personal experience and/ or the experiences of others whose word and judgement he trusts. Others, including posters on this site (including me) have a completely different opinion, largely informed by media coverage rather than personal contact. I don’t have a problem with Ed02 expressing his opinion - after all, isn’t that what we all do as posters on this site? Why the vitriol towards Ed02 from those who hold a different opinion? Might I suggest that if you find it offensive you find another site that only has views about Liverpool that concur with your opinions?

31.) 23 Apr 2019 20:10:47
Hardly vitriol Wirral? 😁.

32.) 23 Apr 2019 20:35:57
Not from you Little Naby but from a small number of others. I certainly do not share Ed02’s opinion of Klopp and have challenged him on it in the past but I don’t think I resorted to insults or pettiness. Also, like you, I have no qualms about Klopp’s alleged ‘lying and cheating’ but I am a committed Liverpool supporter and Ed02 isn’t so he has a different perspective. All I am trying to say is there is room on the site for lots of different views from Eds and posters.

{Ed002's Note - It is not so much a different perspective - it is simply the way it is.}

33.) 23 Apr 2019 20:57:29
Been honest who cares if klopps lies to manipulate the system who says he's the only one who lies in sure there all at it
Fergie lied
Big Sam
The football world isn't known for its honesty.

{Ed002's Note - And the cheating? And the money the lies and cheating are costing the club - there are good reasons Liverpool paid double the agent fees over any other club. There were good reasons why they have paid over the top - significantly - for players. There are good reasons the club has zero respect within the game. But it turns out it is OK because everybody else does it. Great stuff.}

34.) 23 Apr 2019 21:14:36
I'm rolling with ed2 encouraging us fans not to worry about finances. So I am not worried about the micro details. These tings aside, which we don't have all the details for and therefore make it difficult to form a real opinion other than what ed2 is telling us, Klopp and the team are doing great. hope there is a trophy to reward them for their efforts.

35.) 23 Apr 2019 21:14:02
He's 23 and on the verge of a 40m transfer to Athletico. It's not like we've ruined his career is it? Athletico wouldn't pay that for a backup player. I predict big things for him and well deserved for showing his worth while on loan.

36.) 23 Apr 2019 21:16:26
What’s the point of success if you have to cheat to achieve it?
I care if we cheat.
Seems ed002 cares too which is far more protective of the club than anyone who takes a negligent view of it.

37.) 23 Apr 2019 22:20:27
I think it’s the way Ed2 voices it that winds people up the wrong way. He has knowledge that we don’t so is probably right about Klopp and I couldn’t comment on other managers as I don’t know but I’d suspect it goes on a lot with lots of managers but who cares?
Ed you did ask though about what Chelsea have done wrong. Surely the fact they have an impending transfer ban tells you they’ve done plenty wrong?
That’s not deflecting, just answering your question with the results of a thorough investigation in to the transfer dealings of another club. They have a ban and Liverpool don’t so you’d logically assume they are worse than us.
I don’t mean to offend just giving my point of view.

{Ed002's Note - The question was asked about loans. However please explain everything you know about the ban - love to hear it - or is this simply more ignorant deflection from someone who actually doesn’t know anything at all? Looks like yes is the answer to that and you have dragged the Liverpool fans even lower.}

38.) 23 Apr 2019 22:26:10
Well I’m holier than all of you, so there.

{Ed002's Note - So you think there is something in religion then? Or are you just another easily led Liverpool fan? You do appreciate that there is zero evidence that whatever false god you worship exists at all? Probably not.}

39.) 23 Apr 2019 22:36:39
Ed002, I've seen you criticize Klopp for years now, and it used to bother me quite a bit because I rather like him and always felt that you knew some dark secret that nobody else did. I know it'd be as much of a pain as one of those "list of all transfer rumors" posts, but do you think you could lay out a few bullet points of Klopp's infractions for us?

I'm curious as to what constitutes lying and cheating for you, so much so that you'd feel so strongly about it. Namely, I'd like to know if it'd be enough to make ME feel the same way. I initially wrote the tapping-up stuff off as him getting caught doing what everyone else did, but I do get the feeling that it was somewhat worse than that. I'm not in love with the man, but I really enjoy having him as manager and it SEEMS as though most of the players do too. Lying to the WP board isn't nearly enough to change that for me but something more nefarious might be.

{Ed002's Note - It will make it worse and worse. I can give you other things about the club as well, but why drag it down further and Forster?}

40.) 23 Apr 2019 22:58:00
Didn't Liverpool post a record profit last season of £125M? I'm sure the Club are happy with Klopps dealings on that basis.

{Ed002's Note - That money is long gone.}

41.) 23 Apr 2019 23:46:07
Jaysus lads give the man a break, all he is doing is staying the facts. as he always does for us!

All the gin in the world couldn't help you with these lots ed! What are you on tonight? My missus is having a shortcross I think it while I'm on bushmills.

42.) 24 Apr 2019 08:09:51
Wait, what have I done 😓.

43.) 24 Apr 2019 08:44:33
, Jurgens just been caught sneaking an extra slice of bacon in the Melwood Canteen. The Devil himself.

44.) 24 Apr 2019 10:19:35
O yeah Klopp. As nice as he does seem.
Remember these transfers?
Van Dijk: paid way more because of his tapping up.
Grujic: Lied to his parents en WP comittee about game time. Keita: Paid to much
Firmino: Paid to much
Fekir: something else fishy.
And he lied to Mignolet/ Karius about nr1 spot last year.

There's undoubtedly more.

45.) 24 Apr 2019 10:26:22
"Ed give us the facts"

*Ed Proceeds to lay out everything he knows which is collectively more than all of us on this site*

"No not those facts just the ones I want to hear and that's not what my mums, best friends, uncles maybe lawyer told me"

{Ed001's Note - spot on mate. That is exactly what people want.}

46.) 24 Apr 2019 10:49:27
Alvarez. How did klopp pay too much for firmino exactly? Considering he was already at the club.

And regarding mignolet and karius. Both were given plenty of chances and failed to deliver.

I've no problem with your other views but 2 senseless points made there.

47.) 24 Apr 2019 12:44:23
No need for that response Ed I clearly said you know more than me I don’t dispute that at all. Nor do I dispute that you are correct in what you say.
Nor do I know anything about Chelsea’s transfer ban but the fact they have one tells me they have done plenty wrong.
I would also realistically assume that the people charged with investigating such things would have privy to more information than both you and I combined.
Therefore it’s realistic to assume that Chelsea are guilty of more (or worse) infractions than Liverpool. No?

{Ed002's Note - No, Chelsea are not guilty of worse infranctions than Liverpool. Why do you not think that I know anything about it?}

48.) 24 Apr 2019 13:00:51

Oops Firmino, my bad :-D

Regarding Karius and Mignolet, he said to both of them that they were the number 1 goalkeeper.

49.) 24 Apr 2019 13:17:33
Alvarez yes and he gave them both plenty opportunity as number 1, he had no choice but to move on from them as they both failed to take their opportunity.

As for forgetting firmino was signed under rodgers, easy mistake to make as he only really performed once klopp came in. No worries mate.

50.) 24 Apr 2019 13:35:49
Har_red92, it's the issue that he assured them both to be nr1. I'm with you that they didn't preform enough.
Klopp had done it before though, promising a lot to a young player, but not living up to it.

Oh well, like everything: It's not black/ white is it?

51.) 24 Apr 2019 13:52:22
Wow, this old klopp bashing. like groundhog day. We all know eds2 views on Klopp, so why bother asking him repeatedly. zzzzz.

52.) 24 Apr 2019 13:59:25
Ed02 im sorry on behalf of all these morons.

{Ed002's Note - Please don't worry about it.}

53.) 24 Apr 2019 16:59:28
Ed002. Have you seen any positive changes as of late to the way Klopp and/ or the organization operate? What you have pointed out worries me as I would like to think LFC is a class organization and, if not, is aware of the issues and is taking steps to get there.


{Ed002's Note - It depends what you mean as of late. I don't really want to open this up again.}

54.) 24 Apr 2019 19:31:32
agreed, saying we paid over the odds to secure a player who has been a massive success surely vindicates his decision? Also saying we ruined Karius career when he literally threw the ball at a real Madrid player 15 yards from goal in a champions league final and then done a promotional video about himself a few weeks later?

55.) 24 Apr 2019 23:16:52
Dont think Klopp lied to Migs and Karius being No1 keeper, surely he was just joking, there isn't a good keeper between them, how many times did they both let in soft goals .

56.) 25 Apr 2019 02:06:24
Alvarez I do get your point bud. But my argument is that even if he gives these fellas assurances and they don't perform then that is their problem. He gave them both that opportunity to claim number 1 spot, neither of them were deprived of that promise of opportunity, both failed so it would have been poor management to simply stick to that promise. Solanke another given promised playing time and he had his chances given to him too, his performances when played were the only reason klopp lost faith in him. Asides from grujic and solanke what other youngsters were signed by klopp with first team promises? I'm actually curious because surely more youngsters were signed in his reign I just can't think of any off the top of my head.

{Ed001's Note - Brewster.}

57.) 25 Apr 2019 05:19:02
Ah never thought of him ED cheers. High hopes.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}



14 Jan 2019 20:50:00
Rumours regarding Coady coming back.
I think he is good but found his level for a top 10 team. Fighting for LE at best. Any truth in the rumours?

1.) 14 Jan 2019 22:06:06
I would take Coady back but only if Matip moves on. It would only marginally (If at all) improve our strength in depth, but it would help with the home grown quota and whilst I don't think he is good enough to start, he is a leader in the dressing room. He has arguably only ever looked good in a back 3, but I think playing for Liverpool he'd raise his game to a level above what he'd play at for any other club.

It wouldn't be what I'd advise him if I was his agent though. He is captain at probably the 7th or 8th best team in the league and should stay where he is.

2.) 14 Jan 2019 22:40:30
No truth what so ever Martolfc. Absolutely zip!

3.) 14 Jan 2019 23:56:00
We won't be signing any CBs for the foreseeable future. Expect Matip will sign an extension and Lovren still has 3 years remaining on his contract. And everyone knows that VVD and Gomez will be our long term CB partnership so pointlessly adding squad players when we have so many options already within the club is gross mismanagement of club funds.

4.) 15 Jan 2019 02:34:17
No idea about the rumour but feel like ita good for him to be playing week in week out.

5.) 15 Jan 2019 06:36:27
just scored an own goal :) . Love how this works.

6.) 15 Jan 2019 10:51:03
akrubbish - He is the new Jamie Carragher?

7.) 15 Jan 2019 18:49:42
Coady left to get games and give him his dues he's turned into a great player for wolves. He's hardly going to come back to us and not be guaranteed to play. Plus we would have to pay stupid money for their captain in this window knowing we are light at CB.

8.) 16 Jan 2019 09:33:07
I would love to see him come back and be great for us but I just don't see it happening.

I think every time he plays well we will be linked with him.




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21 Jan 2021 19:28:10
I guess Ed is right, Minamino must be a goner in the summer. If he is not playing in such game with a lot of changes in the squad and with Origi in front of him. He must be leaving sadly.

1.) 21 Jan 2021 20:59:55
Rather keep Minamino and let Origi go. maybe Origi is being put in the shop window?



14 Jan 2021 20:41:24
“[Klopp] does not like losing, he never has. He gets prickly. But he is wrong to suggest there is an aura around United that sees them given favourable decisions, ” he continued.

“There used to be when Fergie was there, but that has eased massively since he left.

“I am the only referee to give three penalties to the opposition at Old Trafford, and that was for Liverpool, of all teams, in 2014.

“But David Moyes was manager – I’m not sure that would have happened when Fergie was there! ”

Mark Clattenburg just admitted that in an interview.

Surely this should be getting investigated?

1.) 14 Jan 2021 20:48:32
Did he really say that?

2.) 14 Jan 2021 21:51:57
Jay Dub Red, yes he did. The guy’s arrogance and hubris was laid bare in the quotes posted by the OP. In his bid to try and lecture Klopp, he exposed his own callousness and bias that was on show thru out his mediocre at best, officiating career.

He literally said that even tho all three penalties were penalties, he would not have awarded them to LFC had Fergie been there which begs the question: How many pens did the opposing teams deserve at OT that he did not give to them cos Fergie was on the dugout?

3.) 14 Jan 2021 21:56:35
Are you surprised?

4.) 14 Jan 2021 21:41:31
The man's a wally and just seeking attention ahead of one of the biggest games of the season.

5.) 14 Jan 2021 22:13:03
Surely that’s to be investigated?

6.) 14 Jan 2021 22:01:47
Fergie and United were cheats.

{Ed025's Note - all clubs, managers and players will cheat if they think they can get away with tommy...and liverpool are very much included in that mate..

7.) 14 Jan 2021 22:35:21
There is nobody on this forum that hasn’t cheated, and most more that once😉.

{Ed025's Note - i hope your not counting me in that mark?, im an upstanding citizen and a champion of truth and superman in an everton shirt.. :)

8.) 14 Jan 2021 22:35:02
How very dare you ed25!

{Ed025's Note - how very dare i tell the truth hopeful?... thats my bag mate.. :)

9.) 14 Jan 2021 22:59:28
Investigated? Then what, go through the history books and null and void? As mentioned, just grabbing some headlines, wouldn't surprise me if he pops up on some sports channel doing analysis of the game somewhere.

10.) 14 Jan 2021 23:17:50
If United hadn’t been awarded a single penalty this season they’d be joint 2nd a point behind Liverpool.

If Liverpool hadn’t been awarded awarded a single penalty this season they’d be level on points with 10th place West Ham.

We need to stop coming up with excuses regarding other teams. We are only behind Utd because we didn’t get the job done against, Villa, Everton, Brighton, Fulham, Newcastle, Wba and Southampton nothing to do with Utd and decisions.

You can either have results or excuses. Not both.

{Ed0666's Note - wow loving the insight mate.

11.) 14 Jan 2021 23:53:46
There is no tone in text.
Probably said it tongue in cheek.
He gave us more than our fair share of decisions v Man U and Everton.

12.) 15 Jan 2021 00:24:55
If Superman wore an Everton shirt they would still finish behind Liverpool 😄.

13.) 15 Jan 2021 04:03:16
About right mark, hardly surprising.

14.) 15 Jan 2021 00:49:11
No stuie, one can't change the past in the current situation, but can always change the future. And Ed I agree everyone cheats and will keep cheating. We are not better with tapping players, but we are not changing the outcomes of matches and league positions like referees can. It is what it is I guess.

{Ed025's Note - i think people are making a mountain out of mole hill marto, they are seeing mistakes as cheating and there seems a lot of paranoia by the conspiracy theorists mate..

15.) 15 Jan 2021 07:51:31
Subconscious bias. Good luck investigating that.

16.) 15 Jan 2021 08:24:22
The thread started with what Clattenburg said. Not sure how we got to investigations, excuses, LFC fans crying about decisions not going their way etc. Let’s stay on topic, pls.

Clattenberg is not giving us here. We all knew he was a joke of a ref and the only thing worse than a joke ref is an arrogant joke of a ref which Clattenberg has always been. And we all knew he was terrified of Fergie but now that Fergie is gone, he has found his spine and his voice to try to lecture others about a topic he was dreadful at as in, officiating. Self awareness is clearly not his strength. That’s all I am saying and nothing more.

As for all the other stuff about where Utd or LFC would b without pens or investigations or excuses, that’s all white noise that need not be entertained in any debate, IMO.

17.) 15 Jan 2021 09:18:55
Redmeister good to see you’re still based in your Ivory Tower despite the name change 🤦🏻‍♂️.

18.) 15 Jan 2021 12:57:29
Maybe Ed. I might of overreacted, but it is just sad that referee admits to be doing that while saf was there. Everybody was feeling something was odd back then and now it comes out of a referee mouth. I used to respect saf big time for all his success and respect he was given by his team, but he fell down a lot into my eyes now.

{Ed002's Note - There was far worse from Clattenburg in relation to a game between Spurs and Chelsea in 2016 that eventually caused a huge problem for The FA.}

19.) 15 Jan 2021 13:14:01
The pitty thing is, it's not getting any better.

20.) 15 Jan 2021 13:43:34
JK23, whatever bro.

21.) 15 Jan 2021 14:46:28
I really don't see the issue? Is it any different to Klopp coming out and moaning about the number of pens United have had? He is purposely saying that to try and make the ref think twice on the day. Every manager does it and we are no different. SAF didn't win all those titles on the back of dodgy decisions.



18 Nov 2020 22:40:13
Robertson played the full 90 minutes tonight.



17 Nov 2020 11:12:44
Just read an article for Pep Lijnders. Got me thinking is he valuable option fo Klopp successor? Been working with him for years now, know Klopp ideas and views and it's young too. I know he went somewhere and failed as a manager but its going to be some time yet until Klopp leaves and this will be even more experience for Pep. Lots of people want Gerrard but I'm not so sure about this. What's your thoughts on that all?

1.) 17 Nov 2020 12:12:08
I would prefer him over gerrard yeah.
But depends what the club wants in that place and time.

2.) 17 Nov 2020 12:42:49
If the club and Klopp truly back him as the successor, he has my full support.

My preferred option is Julian Nagelsman personally, he is the next generation Klopp for me.

3.) 17 Nov 2020 12:45:57
"Lots of people want Gerrard"

Who? Cos all I ever see on Liverpool forums when Gerrard is mentioned is fans tripping over themselves to say they don't want him.

I don't really have an opinion on who I want to see replace Klopp at this moment in time, cos all I care about is him staying. I know he won't stay forever, and Pep is well placed from the point of view of continuity, but going from being a #2 to a #1 doesn't always work. And if Klopp stays to the end of his contract, that's 4 years. A lot could happen in that time.

4.) 17 Nov 2020 13:08:24
I would lean towards Julian Nagelsman for the same reasons as Shaq attack.
Very similar to klopp, has done very well with Leipzig and did well with hoffenhiem before.

I like the look of him so he’s be my lick at this moment in time.

But like previously mentioned a lot can happen in the next 4 years. Who knows klopp could even end up extending his contract?

5.) 17 Nov 2020 14:04:39
Who knows if Gerrard's tactics would be the same with a much much better squad?
I would definitely like Gerrard to manage Liverpool one day. I dunno if he's the next manager?

6.) 17 Nov 2020 14:25:19
I don’t get why Pep Ljinders is the preferred choice for so many on here, Gerrard has a more distinguished managerial resumé already. While Gerrard was always the emotional choice, he is doing a damn good job at Rangers and his European performances bode extremely well for the future. If he finally overcomes Celtic just two years into his career, he simply has to be in the reckoning for more high-profile jobs.
Ljinders, conversely, didn’t pull up any trees in his role as NEC coach, and that is the extent of his managerial experience.

{Ed002's Note - Ljinders is a very well respected tactical coach. He is not management material.}

7.) 17 Nov 2020 14:49:23
Wow how fickle fans are. After everything that Stevie G has done for Liverpool I don't get why fans wouldn't want him as next manager?
A certain Kenny Dalglish did pretty well with limited managerial experience as I recall.
I am pretty sure remember Klopp saying that Stevie should replace him when he leaves.

8.) 17 Nov 2020 16:57:20
Some of us just want someone who can do the job effectively as it is going to be the biggest job in Europe when Klopp leaves, IMO. If Gerrard can do it then, he should have a chance to interview for the job. If he can't then, he should be nowhere near it.

Emotions don't cloud my judgment and we have seen what such emotional choices can cause by looking at how OGS and to a lesser extent, Lampard are struggling. If SG is qualified then, fine. If he is not, then he needs to be bypassed. It is that simple.

9.) 17 Nov 2020 20:09:09
I’ll worry about it in 3-4 years time. I’d rather focus on getting through next 3-4 injury ravaged games.

10.) 17 Nov 2020 22:28:25
Something Red. Well lots of people don't want Gerrard, but believe me lots of people do want him. I have mate that says if the club doesn't get Gerrard next would be the biggest mistake they make and whenever I try to talk about it and say to him that Gerrard is not worthy in my opinion he kinda gets mad and says Gerrard deserves it blah blah. You know what I mean. So yes, lots of people don't want him but he'll lots of people want him.

11.) 18 Nov 2020 09:19:25
We have a good record with ex players managing us after managing Rangers.

12.) 18 Nov 2020 12:20:40
He has always been my no. 1 choice.



31 Oct 2020 13:43:44
Watching Brewster 2 games in a row now I don't see all the hype. I might be wrong tho. New club, new city, new team mates etc. So far tho I'm happy we managed to get this amount of money and for Brewster as well, as he is playing footy now.

1.) 31 Oct 2020 14:48:24
Henry didn’t exactly pull up sticks for a long time after he joined Arsenal and he was already an established international. Give the lad a chance.

2.) 31 Oct 2020 15:06:22
Yeah he needs time to bed in there.
Dunno what’s going on at Sheffield this season, it’s like doubt has been allowed to creep in and it’s effecting them quite badly, they are not playing awful as such but was watching the game today and they could have at least got a point today if they had a bit more belief about them. They just seemed to be overly cautious.

3.) 31 Oct 2020 15:37:52
Not sure the style of play suits Brewster but he’s played against lfc and city last two games so don’t expect him to have many chances against those teams.

4.) 31 Oct 2020 22:30:22
I think if you listen to what Klopp said before the Sheff Utd game it tells you everything you need to know about Brewster. He said something along the lines of ‘if the ball is near him and he’s near the goal he’s a threat. He’s a natural goal scorer. ’ Roughly translated as he doesn’t get involved in general play much but if you give him a chance he will score. From what I’ve seen of him that’s a fair assessment. He’s anonymous for the most part then he’ll pop up with a tap in. Right place, right time kind of striker.
He’ll do well if they can supply him with enough chances.

5.) 01 Nov 2020 02:17:35
McGoldrick would help create chances for him, be interested to see if they are paired together how it goes.

And, as per Jordz, it's two games against last seasons' top 2.




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16 Jan 2021 14:58:55
Riomazy well of the foul it's on the line, it's not in then? Quiet obviasly really? 😅.



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16 Jan 2021 12:52:24
Yeah I thought it was outside too. Replays never proved the opposite. Yet VAR didn't overturn the referee decision. I still don't know if it was completely outside tho, replays that was given to us were never good enough, the angle was ridiculous.



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07 Jan 2021 13:13:14
So by your logic the club needs 11 players who play week in week out. We don't need back up players or players for rotation?



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27 Dec 2020 11:29:01
We saw what happened. Rhys and Philips stepped up and did decent. If it was up to me. I would wait till the end of season. Look how Gomez and VVD are doing, sell Matip as he is way to injury prone. And get 1 or 2 CB. Prob sell Philips if he didn't do well while covering or simply he wants to leave as he is 23? and prob whants to play. Keep Rhys.



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08 Feb 2020 10:15:48
Im hoping he stays for another year or two. Love the guy and is a really good number 2. If you play inplace of Ali for a good amount of games in the PL and fans say that Ali has not been missed as much as expected well you've done something special. But I agree with the other post that if he feels it that he needs to play, let him go. He will be some kind of an icon here for what he did.




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21 Jan 2021 19:59:20
I belive this is one of the last chances Origi may have, I belive that might be the case for Ox too.



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21 Jan 2021 14:28:38
By the end of the registration window we'll know how VVD and Gomez are doing. So far VVD is not included in the epl squad but Gomez is. Correct me if I'm wrong ✌️.

{Ed002's Note - That is the squad from the start of the season.}



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17 Jan 2021 03:19:46
Do we hold an interest is the real question?



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15 Jan 2021 13:14:01
The pitty thing is, it's not getting any better.



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15 Jan 2021 12:57:29
Maybe Ed. I might of overreacted, but it is just sad that referee admits to be doing that while saf was there. Everybody was feeling something was odd back then and now it comes out of a referee mouth. I used to respect saf big time for all his success and respect he was given by his team, but he fell down a lot into my eyes now.

{Ed002's Note - There was far worse from Clattenburg in relation to a game between Spurs and Chelsea in 2016 that eventually caused a huge problem for The FA.}