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16 Mar 2023 11:09:14
Bajcetic season's over. Look forward to seeing him next season alongside Bellingham and Caicedo
1.) 16 Mar 2023 11:25:04
Sad news on Bajcetic. that said, he has more chance of playing next to Yogi and Boo Boo next season than Bells and Caicedo.
2.) 16 Mar 2023 11:31:56
Why is he leaving?
3.) 16 Mar 2023 11:36:25
Sad news for the boy. Speedy recovery, lad.
4.) 16 Mar 2023 11:39:38
I don't think it's being hyperbolic to say that this is the most important summer certainly in Klopp's reign. Assuming we don't get top 4 FSG cannot use that as an excuse not to go all out for the likes of Bellingham and 2-3 other high caliber midfielders and a first team CB at the very least. If we do not, I'm afraid of what will happen to the club. City and Newcastle have unlimited funds, Man U are about to be bought by Qatar and we could be left behind if we don't get it right this summer. We also have to get a high caliber Director of Football who will set the direction for the club and who can stand up to Klopp.
5.) 16 Mar 2023 14:42:36
Why has anyone got to stand up to klopp? we been stop start this season but all his other seasons we been flying. Why not stand up to him then? Stop it you all sound spoilt and clueless. Like klopp would work under any circumstances he is not happy with. Then what? The team is evolving deal with it.
6.) 16 Mar 2023 15:24:13
The team is evolving? You could also say "Dissolving" (tongue in cheek)!
TAA has been left out of the England squad for the forthcoming games against Italy and Ukraine.
If ye not good enough for England ye certainly not good enough for LFC is that a quote that could apply to TAA this season? my own view is he has just had a bad season form wise it happens, form is temporary, "CLASS" is permanent is my view on TAA, every top class team would bid for him after all he is only 25 and has yet to reach his peak, also the thought of De Bruyne and TAA supplying crosses for Haaland would give me sleepless nights, and i have trouble sleeping now, same as Jurgen he deserves another season or two.
7.) 16 Mar 2023 15:42:30
007 you cannot seriously use an England call as a basis of calling out Trent, I mean slabhead gets a call up and he doesn’t get on the pitch as far as I’m aware.
Thank goodness he’s not picked by N@bgate,
Question tho, Toni wasn’t picked for WC, yet now there’s more charges it’s time to pick him?
I gave up on England after first few games of N@bgate in charge, thinking the possibility of a new dawn initially.
8.) 16 Mar 2023 16:22:57
Phillips selected after 56 mins of premier league football this season.
9.) 16 Mar 2023 18:04:58
Oh please, 007. Don’t come on here acting like you care if Trent gets picked by England. Dier, Macguire, Shaw and other dreadful defenders get picked all the time. Do you have energy for them?
Trent has had plenty of good performances in the past and still The Vest never picked him. He’s having a bad season like many in the squad so let’s leave it at that. Nobody cares about England. Not even it’s own players.
10.) 16 Mar 2023 20:26:27
Hello Hogan and OR,
You have misread my post, I shall repeat it a different way: England are inferior to LFC is what i have expressed i. e. it should be harder to get into the LFC team than any England team is what i have posted.
Hogan, how is that calling TAA out? when i have quite clearly stated i want him to stay! as i have said in my post every top team will be in for him if he wants to move on. If he does go, who will be a better replacement, i would suggest no one.
OR, You have agreed with me in part of your post word for word what i posted? you wrote " he has had a bad season, leave it at that" I posted "he has had a bad season, form wise it happens"
What's the difference between posts as i can't see it!
11.) 16 Mar 2023 21:01:16
According to someone he must've been not training hard enough and that's why he get injured.
12.) 17 Mar 2023 15:37:07
007, you can talk about Trekt without having to bring England into it. Apart from that, all good.
14 Jan 2023 17:18:35
Having followed us for well over 40 years, the only crumb of comfort I take from our fall from grace is that I cherished the success we had in recent years. During the 70s and 80s I naively thought it would never end. 2 years ago we were Champions of the World and I savoured every minute. Football is cyclical and we will return to giddy heights, I'm sure, but none of us know when.
The dramatic decline is the only thing that really surprises me, as it does a lot of us. I accept that there were signs last season, when we almost won the lot, but this capitulation is hard to take and understand. As I've said more than a few times this season, Klopp himself doesn't know how to fix things, which is the most worrying aspect.
I will be there next Saturday. As a supporter, no matter which team you follow, you just hope that the next game is better. YNWA.
1.) 14 Jan 2023 17:28:00
Yeh but it’s so so obvious ? it’s not complicated, just sign 2 real midfielders and all the problems go away.
It’s almost deliberate.
Very easy fix and we’re just ignoring it. Making excuses all over the place, blaming everyone.
It’s not difficult, it’s the midfield. Sort it.
2.) 14 Jan 2023 17:41:28
Yeah 2 midfielders solve that pile of sh#te alright. What do we do with the other 9 that are at f#ck all?
3.) 14 Jan 2023 17:31:44
I can clearly remember Nottingham Forest putting Liverpool out of the European Cup at Anfield.
Phil Thompson was absolutely distraught and collapsed to the turf at full time.
A lad ran on the pitch to pick him up, and the Kop broke out into a huge chant of “We’ll support you ever more”.
That’s football.
And that’s what us fans need to do now.
4.) 14 Jan 2023 17:32:40
Alright Rome__1977 unfortunately I have to agree with you mate having supported the reds for close on 40yrs like yourself I am in complete disbelief with our fall from grace and although I was of the opinion that if anyone could get us out of this mess it was Klopp I'm beginning to think that he isn't even bothered anymore.
5.) 14 Jan 2023 17:33:05
How did Gakpo do?
6.) 14 Jan 2023 17:37:16
Like you Rome I’ve been a supporter for over 40 years and the drop off in form is alarming but more alarming is that Klopp has been unable to fix it, theWorld Cup break was supposed to help us but we have got worse.
Our big players are not roaring at the rest and we have lost the leaders on the pitch who now seem to just accept it.
7.) 14 Jan 2023 17:38:42
It’s the tactics! We do not press any more.
8.) 14 Jan 2023 17:40:01
And if the money isn’t there / won’t be available, then what?
If FSG will give klopp x amount to spend it’s his job how to spend it. If he doesn’t like the x amount then he walks.
Look at the Brighton midfield tonight - it played us off the park and it cost £15 million. We could buy caicedo for 60 million and he cost Brighton five million.
If you can’t buy players when they are established and expensive then you work around it. You scout better. You plan better.
It’s an abject failure of responsibility for all those at the club to simply blame FSG. FSG don’t escape responsibility but they aren’t the only ones to blame.
9.) 14 Jan 2023 17:54:19
OMM. We crawled to January on our knees mate. There should’ve been 2 midfielders banging down the Door on the 1st, and there wasn’t.
Now we’ve given up, everyone has tools down again.
We’ve seen this before, it’s nothing new, I expect a month of this and then a resurgence push to ‘attempt’ fourth.
More and More players will fake injuries like we’re seeing now to avoid the limelight.
History is repeating itself, The only surprise is other fans are shocked, I’m not, it wasn’t that long ago.
10.) 14 Jan 2023 17:58:27
He's right though, sort the midfield out and we'll be grand
Injuries have been awful but doesn't help Hendo and Fab have been a shadow of themselves, defence is completely exposed and forwards left with scraps
Midfield is the issue, a good summer transfer window and Klopp will sort it ok, tough season this will be though.
11.) 14 Jan 2023 18:10:36
Come on lads. No one can say we ain’t consist. Are performance and results have been consist throughout the season. Consistently bad that is ?.
12.) 14 Jan 2023 18:14:08
We're not able to press anymore, anyone half decent at best could just play through us with ease. Signing better players is more important.
13.) 14 Jan 2023 18:28:28
Thing is bill it’s always next summer and then next summer arrives and we’re told it’ll be next summer. We’ve now reached the point where the midfielders we have aren’t adequate for multiple reasons too long to list. But all of which means that because of failure to adequately evolve we’re now in a very precarious situation, I look at the last few games and wonder where our next points are coming from, it’s not implausible that we could go on a long winless run the way things are going. I don’t for one minute believe there is going to be a big summer spending spree on midfielders. It’ll be the same as always, a small budget made up with transfers. Until FSG go and take their debt with them, we’re in for some wilderness years in mid table at best.
14.) 14 Jan 2023 18:30:09
LiverpoolFC8, I know that mate I've been watching as well. 2 midfielders should have been ready to sign on the 1st of this month. Negligence on the part of the manager (for only having eyes for one player) and Ward (for allowing the manager only have eyes for one player) . My point is I don't think even 2 new signings lift it now.
15.) 14 Jan 2023 18:46:14
The whole team has downed tools either they have lost confidence in klopp or don’t like pep’s influence in tactics or training. Two new midfielders aren’t going to fix this mess.
16.) 14 Jan 2023 21:22:50
Yeah, LFC08. 2 midfielders would fix the steaming pile of crap happening up and down the pitch. Give your head a wobble bro.
13 Jan 2023 13:06:28
I see Jurgen has had a rant at his press conference. To sum up, he's said what's the point of buying someone because we have injuries, then when everyone's back you have too many players. I fully understand that, but isn't that exactly what we've done with Gakpo? Aren't we in exactly that position when Bobby, Diaz and Jota return.
1.) 13 Jan 2023 13:13:45
I think we signed Gakpo because of the quality of player available at way below market rate (when you consider what United paid for Antony)
Having said that, the more logical route would have been £40 million a permanent long-term midfielder and use our annual emergency panic loan to bring in a forward until Diaz and Jota return. Easy to say from here though, all depends what is available.
2.) 13 Jan 2023 13:20:20
And, the fact is, we are in this position of having too many centre midfielders (That also happen to be injury prone, aged and most of them happen to be out of contract by the end of this season) because Klopp didn't have the sense to move people on.
I understand he is a friendly guy, that likes to keep the squad consistent year by year, but you could tell many of these players were not good enough 2 to 3 years ago. We could have sold Keita, Ox for a decent sum. But, now, not only are we stuck with them and forced to play them at times, but they will be gone by the season's end.
Gakpo would also not have been signed if not for the injuries. That is not to slate Gakpo because he looks pretty capable, from the little I have seen. But, if Jota, Diaz and Firmino had come back in January, does anyone honestly believe we would have signed Gakpo too?
I honestly don't think we would have.
3.) 13 Jan 2023 13:22:02
Don't believe the lies told in press conferences.
4.) 13 Jan 2023 13:22:21
I am not klopps biggest fan but it does seem he's loosing the plot.
I personally am of the mind let him see out the rest of this season and say our good byes.
The dude deserves to be remembered fondly but I feel the longer he stays the more his legacy is going to be soured.
5.) 13 Jan 2023 13:39:17
Anybody suggesting Klopp should leave will sorely regret it if he does. Any other manager operating under this penny pinching ownership model would have us consistently mid table. Just as we were in the 5 years before he arrived.
{Ed025's Note - i cant see that the owners have done much wrong thom?...maybe its me?..
6.) 13 Jan 2023 13:57:40
I despair at some of these posters I really do.
7.) 13 Jan 2023 14:00:59
I don't know of another club in recent history who have been able to maintain their place near the pinnacle of European football with a budget of player sales + £10 million.
8.) 13 Jan 2023 13:55:43
Through blue tinted specs Ed025.
{Ed025's Note - through non bratty sensible spectacles i would say mate.. :)
9.) 13 Jan 2023 14:08:11
Seems you don't no much abt lfc then ed25 mate. Just look at mike Gordon statement few months back and everything will get clear for you.
{Ed025's Note - i dont need to listen to anyone KF, i trust my own judgement on all things football mate and of course they are just opinions like everyone else, but this trashing of your club, manager and owners seems well over the top considering your success over the past 7 years, now if you were an evertonian saying these things then i think you may have a case..
10.) 13 Jan 2023 14:25:12
That's embarrassing ed25 mate ?"you don't need to listen to LFC owner? "They're just opinion like everyone else"? ? Hence I told you you don't know much when it comes to LFC ?.
{Ed025's Note - i dont claim to know everything about LFC KF, but i do know crying, moaning little bitches when i hear them mate.. :)
11.) 13 Jan 2023 14:30:42
Klopps to loyal it’s his biggest downfall may well come back and haunt him!
12.) 13 Jan 2023 14:44:02
Ed25 mate when you've your owner giving statements/ leaking back home in their media (Boston globe) the reason to sale the club is coz they can't compete with rivals says everything.
It's clear as day and night ownership change is must and critical going forward
I agree about moaning especially when this is the 1st season we are struggling after winning trophies consistently for half a decade ?.
{Ed025's Note - i just think you could do a lot worse KF, 10 years ago liverpool were an also ran and going nowhere and now you are winning things and competing at the highest level mate, i dont think you have a lot to moan about if im honest..
13.) 13 Jan 2023 14:48:09
Ed0025. Haha hahahaha if they’d off spent £600 million and built us a new ground I’m pretty sure there would be no chants of “sack the board” or sit ins, you evertonians are coming across as proper ungrateful and a touch entitled to be honest.
{Ed025's Note - would you like to swap our situation for yours waro?....no i didn,t think so mate.. :)
14.) 13 Jan 2023 15:09:45
To be fair Everton's owners are much worse than ours. Ours get upset when they have to break into a fiver and that's my issue with them, however its far from the only reason to have an issue with an owner.
Look at Boehly for example, had the arrogance to install himself as sporting director after suggesting Chelsea use the 4-4-3 formation - then proceeded to blow the GDP of a small nation on dross he only knew existed after reading them linked with other clubs on the BBC Gossip Column. So yeah ours annoy me because of the lack of spending, but owners spending doesn't automatically make them good.
15.) 13 Jan 2023 14:51:54
After reading this thread I'm so grateful we have experts in charge and not you lot .
16.) 13 Jan 2023 16:08:22
Looking at klopp earlier, just seems to me there's disagreements between him and whoever is signing off on the cheques. Might be wrong, just seems p. ed off answering the questions when at the end of the day the men with the money have to sign off.
17.) 13 Jan 2023 16:22:45
Any human would get hacked off answering the same questions day in and day out.
And anyone wanting Klopp out needs to rehab off the class A gear.
18.) 13 Jan 2023 16:44:16
I haven't heard his press conference but I think the idea of having pressers before and after each game is ridiculous. There is never anything interesting to say. The same old repetitive nonsense, with the media and click bait sites waiting for the manager to trip and give them something to sensationalise.
Klopp is the most valuable person at the club. What a colossal waste of his time.
I know, I know, the link with the fans and the press is a key part of a manager's role and clubs commercial objectives, but surely one press conference per month should perfectly reasonable. But i guess that wouldn't justify the £££s people pay for their Sky and BT subscriptions so we will just have to live with the mindnumbimg media routines.
19.) 13 Jan 2023 18:54:13
Give ‘em hell, Ed25. Love it.
{Ed025's Note - I am very opinionated oli but in the end it’s just that..an opinion. I can see how some of the guys are not happy but I think some of them are over the top mate..
20.) 14 Jan 2023 09:24:37
Ed25, tell me about it. I think some of these people should go hang out with Everton fans so they can get a taste of what true misery, frustration and anger with no end in sight really looks like.
{Ed025's Note - absolutely oli..
04 Jan 2023 12:11:06
VVD out for longer than expected. Never rains but it pours.
1.) 04 Jan 2023 12:46:56
This season just keeps on giving.
2.) 04 Jan 2023 12:58:20
Injuries are part and parcel of the game. He's had one serious injury during his time with us.
He'll be reet ?.
3.) 04 Jan 2023 13:34:53
He has be absolutely awful all season anyway but seems it’s everybody else’s fault in defence apart from him. Hopefully Matip and Konate can form a good partnership and when Virgil is back he won’t get straight back into the team and he might start playing like he can.
4.) 04 Jan 2023 13:45:19
Apparently Moises can play CB also, or, when he signs, Fab can move back to CB.
5.) 04 Jan 2023 13:55:09
What's Ozan Kabak upto these days?
6.) 04 Jan 2023 14:53:47
Injuries are part and parcel of the game for every club. We’ve got more than enough cover for centre back.
7.) 04 Jan 2023 15:00:58
OP, and how long was he expected to be out to begin with?
03 Jan 2023 08:43:39
I'll be interested to hear Ed01's take on our current situation. I remember him staying positive at the beginning of the season, when we didn't get off to the best of starts. I've said on this site, for a while, that I think this side has run its course. What has surprised me is the speed of the decline. There isn't a quick fix to our problems, such as the signing of Bellingham, though most of us would love that. I just believe that we have had the best out of the nucleus of the side which brought us so much success. Obviously Mane and Wijnaldum have moved on, but I don't think that VVD, Fabinho, Henderson, Firmino and Salah will consistently reach the levels they was once at. It was always said that we didn't have the best squad but our starting 11 was better than anyone's, this is no longer the case, sadly. Historically, when a side is going through this type of transition, you look at the new blood that's coming through and look at players such as Elliott and Carvalho. I fully appreciate that it's very early days for both of them, but I'm not convinced about either of them. I don't wish to single them out, but at times such as this we look for a ray of light in our youngsters and at this minute I'm not getting it.
This is a long drawn out post and I offer no solutions to our problems. The worrying thing is, at this moment in time, Klopp doesn't seem to be able to fix them either.
1.) 03 Jan 2023 08:49:53
Do you really think in this planet only Bellingham could improve our midfield ?????????. I can name you 25 central midfielders around Europe who would walk into our midfield right now ????.
2.) 03 Jan 2023 08:53:56
Carvalho is a number 10. A wrong signing again showing how utterly incompetent the board is when it comes to planning. The kid has no place in our current system.
Elliot is again a misfit. He is neither a midfielder nor w winger and Klopp doesn’t know where to play him.
{Ed025's Note - im putting your name forward as the next manager enzo, you seem to have all the answers mate.. :)
3.) 03 Jan 2023 09:09:00
I remember Ed001 commenting before the WC about Ljinders having a greater influence and us moving away from intensive pressing to a more ‘controlling” style as a result of that.
Bits of what Carra was saying last night, but more nuanced and at least 2 months ago.
Sorry if I’ve misinterpreted what you said Tris.
4.) 03 Jan 2023 09:10:25
Enzo, I never said only Bellingham could improve our midfield. Why all the laughing emojis?
5.) 03 Jan 2023 09:14:51
Not all Ed025, but some ??. Elliot doesn’t fit in with any one the three positions in midfield, it’s clear as a daylight. The kid doesn’t have the pace or name to replace Salah. So Klopp is simply shoning him there.
Carvalho should have simply ignored our call. He has no place in a 4-3-3. Everyone can see it.
{Ed025's Note - they are young lads enzo and are ones for the future mate..
6.) 03 Jan 2023 09:19:43
Sorry Rome, I thought you are in “we only sign the right player” group ??.
They have let the prime years or VVD, Salah and Allison to go away without investing in the squad. History wouldn’t be kind to them.
7.) 03 Jan 2023 09:22:22
Well said Rome, though I do think the likes of Elliot and carvallho need time. I’m surprised you don’t have the answers mate, there’s quite a few on here that clearly do, especially when it comes to FSG lol.
8.) 03 Jan 2023 09:01:24
Liverpool have conceded 51 big chances this season, according to Opta. That is more than twice as many as the five teams above them in the Premier League table. Massive issue.
9.) 03 Jan 2023 09:46:30
Oh good, Harry's back. Just what we needed right now.
10.) 03 Jan 2023 09:50:25
Hiya Drogie. You are right about Elliott and Carvalho needing time and no one wants them to come good more than me.
Finger pointing and blaming is a constant when it comes to supporters. FSG and Lijnders seem to be copping all the flak at the minute. Always been the way. I remember Phil Neal always getting the blame, whenever we lost, even if he'd had a good game!
No matter what, I'll be at the next game singing myself hoarse.
11.) 03 Jan 2023 09:52:07
How do you define youngster?
Anybody in their teens could be a decade away from their peak. If you take those in the team who likely aren’t yet in their prime let’s have a look:
Konate 23
Gakpo 23
Elliott 19
Ramsay 19
Diaz 25
Jones 21
Nunez 23
Carvalho 20
Trent 24
Kelleher 24
Go further into the academy and pick a handful of prospects:
Bajcetic - 18
Doak - 17
Musiałowski - 19
how many of the above would you not want in or around the squad?
12.) 03 Jan 2023 10:07:34
Harry alert ?.
13.) 03 Jan 2023 10:08:24
I love the assumptions that there can only be one possible solution to any given problem within the club. What utter rubbish.
I thought the banter page was a place to banter and bounce ideas off each other? We all have our opinions about certain players and how they play, however valid they may be.
There will always be a consensus of opinion, and there will be cliques but it doesn’t make either of these any more right than someone standing alone saying Carvalho doesn’t fit in our current team setup (he doesn’t but that is Klopp’s problem to resolve) or Elliott is too slow (he is, so he will need to think quicker than anyone else, Sheringham didn’t do too badly) .
The massive problems are chances conceded and the age and fragility of our midfield. But don’t worry Jude will solve both problems … he won’t and I don’t expect us to sign him.
14.) 03 Jan 2023 10:19:23
Good post, StEtienne. Agree with all of it, though hope you're wrong about Bellingham.
15.) 03 Jan 2023 10:59:37
Id still say its injuries and availability problems that kill our season.
We can't seem to put together a team that can have a run of 10 games.
That kills the season for us. For ex ox starting last 3 games is just not what is required.
There is no tuning in the squad as we have to keep changing because of the injuries.
You can't just chop and change and expect consistency and klopps uncertain decision making doesn’t help either
Matip and robbo were our best players last two games and we change them in order to rest? Not best decisions in hindsight.
16.) 03 Jan 2023 11:07:22
Carvalho can clearly play as a 10 or left sided attacker, his problem is his age and the gash we have behind him in midfield, he has big potential, Elliott i agree is one where his lack of pace is a worry but on the ball he is good, just lacks the confidence to take it on himself, the best of the lot is Jones, both on the ball and vision wise, but he has the worse injuries going.
17.) 03 Jan 2023 11:17:37
Yep, SR. You and others called it. Harry is back again to gratify us with his “wisdom” fir the year 2023. Notice he didn’t show up here when we won 4 in a row. Now, he’s back. Happy New Year to you, btw.
18.) 03 Jan 2023 11:38:57
What's wrong with signing the right players? What's the alternative? Signing the wrong ones?
Who or what are the right players is a different matter. I'd sooner we wait and sign the right players rather than sign the wrong ones to keep the fans happy.
19.) 03 Jan 2023 12:40:46
Enzo, Carvalho can easily play as a 10 in a 4 3 3. And I think he should. Regardless of his age.
20.) 03 Jan 2023 13:54:52
Rigsby, I get that BUT this was a true position of need that had been postponed for so long due to this very point do I think we should have bucked thatchers esp since we had to panic buy Arthur (who could be the wrong player) when Hendo got injured. I just think we should have gotten one in since the level of urgency was so high. Not sure that matters anyway due to the new style we are playing which is sucking the life out of me, for real.
15 Apr 2023 13:04:14
You seem to have a nice lifestyle, Ed02. Are you down Cornwall, at the moment? One of the nicest places on Earth.
I endorse what's been said. Your knowledge, wisdom and time is much appreciated.
{Ed002's Note - I am Cornwall untill the morning. An a lovely day here thanks.}
16 Mar 2023 07:41:18
I think Ed02 is trying to wind folk up about Arthur. I don't think there's a cat in hell's chance we will. Why would we!
28 Feb 2023 22:40:06
Cheers Footyfan. I, like a good many others on here, would swap VVD for Gvardiol in a heart beat, but I don't ever think that would happen. However, can any of the biggest sides in Europe guarantee a starting place for any player they buy, no matter how good they are?
28 Feb 2023 20:21:55
MK, do you see either of Schuurs or Ndicka being an upgrade on Konate? I don't, and I wouldn't see the point in signing either of them.
13 Feb 2023 09:29:29
"When Harry met Salah! " Made me chuckle, Ed025. Thanks for that, mate. You're obviously in good form today and looking forward to tonight. Hope you're well.
31 May 2023 19:23:48
A beautiful place to watch a game of football.
18 May 2023 21:35:26
Good one, Zed. Made me laugh.
Good work, DHFC. Thank you.
06 May 2023 23:40:01
I'd never heard of him till an hour ago.
02 May 2023 14:26:06
OliRed, it's my belief that the Skipp challenge was only worthy of a yellow card, he got away with it. Jota deserved a red, he got away with it also. It's all about opinion, which is why I love this site. I respect your view point.
02 May 2023 07:37:44
Yellow card and Jota was lucky not to see red, so, let's move on.