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22 Nov 2020 23:16:24
Anyone see Klopp’s interview with sky after the game where he ripped into sky and BT over the scheduling of matches? Pretty interesting watch, I’ve no idea of the complexity of it all and if it’s as simple as he says it is to sort out, but the fundamental point about teams playing in a Wednesday then playing 12:30 sat is a bit stupid.


1.) 22 Nov 2020 23:56:35
Seen it, can't disagree with much of what Jurgen said but surely the clubs themselves are to blame as well as they essentially sold their soul to the devil with these TV rights so have to do as the broadcasters, and I am guessing the Premier League, demand.

But that was simply Jurgen Klopp venting and it is understandable.

In a C.V. you would think football games would be more spaced out but instead the greedy gits at the top have doubled down. 3 international games instead of 2 and many more games spaced unevenly to not clash for viewer numbers with no regard for the players or coaching staff. Yeah they earn a big wage but they are human beings.

Fully understand Jurgen's frustrations.

And yeah I am a hypocrite as I have been watching all the games.

2.) 23 Nov 2020 09:15:39
Klopp has been saying this for years so it is nothing new. The reason it is getting more and more public support is cos of the C.V. and that other clubs are now being affected by it esp. with the early kick off times right after an international break, something Klopp has been complaining about since he got here.

3.) 23 Nov 2020 09:49:12
If we want to play in the CL then we need to suck it up and get on with it. 🤷🏼‍♂️.

4.) 23 Nov 2020 10:37:57
But why 12.30? We can still play on Saturday just a 3pm KO. Or later if sky/ BT want to show it.

5.) 23 Nov 2020 11:04:22
I’m sure Bt and sky replied to this issue a few weeks ago saying clubs are consulted and agree to it. Yes we could play 3 hours later on sat but not sure how much difference that makes to recovery and fitness. And if it does then the early kick off means we have 3 hours more recovery than we would have for the Ajax game next Tuesday night.

6.) 23 Nov 2020 11:22:51
Why should we or any of the champions league teams suck it up longthing? Bt have 2 kick off times on a Saturday and sky have 3 on a Saturday plus BBC having a couple on Sunday and Monday. If you play in the champions league on Wednesday, that week you can ONLY play 3pm 5pm 7pm Saturday 12pm 2pm 5pm 7pn Sunday. The reason they make them play at 12:30 Saturday is because they want the story of the big team losing, there's no other reason. The top 4 teams are getting deliberately shjt on from all sides in the name of creating a contest. The reason the small teams don't want 5 subs is because they don't want to lose the advantage they already have by playing less games than the big teams. Bt don't put the big teams on at 5 because they don't want to lose the story of the big team losing. And the price of this is the players being injured again this should happen more in teams that play more games and travel more. Again bringing down the standard for the smaller teams who also usually get a week to prepare tactically for games rather than a day or two like the big teams. This is why I'm in favour of that "powergrab" thing fsg proposed.

{Ed025's Note - yeah you would do jezza, its not like liverpool to try and bully others into submission is it?...oh yeah it is, the TV scheduling is about maximising viewers and is not a plot by media companies to pick on the "big 6" but dont let the truth get in the way of your persecution complex, you are obviously in favour of the "powergrab" and that does not surprise me in the slightest mate, after all you did instigate operation "screw everyone else" by wanting to reform the tv revenue split and leave the lower clubs up shirt creek..

7.) 23 Nov 2020 11:51:05
Surely people know how a clock and weekly calendar works. It swings in roundabouts. If you play earlier it means you have less time to prep / recover for that game but then you have more time to prep / recover for the next game. We play sat and tue next week. If we play late sat night or on sun then it’s less time to the tue Ajax game. Same as playing late last night on a Sunday it actually gave Klopp and players more time to recover and prep for Leicester after the international break.

8.) 23 Nov 2020 11:46:22
When you say"You did instigate"Ed do you mean you the fans or you the club?

{Ed025's Note - the club barry, they are ruthless in the persuit of money mate, and dont care who they tread over to get it unfortunately..

9.) 23 Nov 2020 11:52:55
Like it or not Ed025, Liverpool and Man Utd draw in the most viewers by a considerable margin.
I’m not sure what it is about the English mentality that seems to resent success and put barriers in its way.
If you’re playing in Europe, particularly away, you shouldn’t have an early kickoff on the following weekend. That’s just common sense.
What the television companies are doing is just playing keep ball with their audience numbers, book ending Liverpool and Man Utd on broadcast days as often as not.

{Ed025's Note - i get that juicer and i dont have a problem with that, the assumption that its done so the big teams lose to create a more competitive league is just ludicrous though mate, it would be right to afford the teams playing in europe as much time as possible to recouperate, but scheduling is done in advance and its not a ploy to "hobble" the creme de la creme..

10.) 23 Nov 2020 11:54:17
Obviously I didn't read the whole leaked document but in general I agree with the principle that the top teams should be making the decisions because it seems they're the only ones capable of thinking of anyone but themselves. Put Liverpool on in any time slot anywhere around the world and you'll get viewers and I know that's not the case for a lot of the teams which is why they shouldn't have the same say. The lower teams are deliberately making stupid decisions in order to gain or maintain the advantage they already have on the pitch. Grealish played 3 games in a week for the first time ever in his career and then played for villa and was shjt and they're saying how it's because he's played so many games lately. Well us big clubs (you won't get this point Ed) play 3 games a week every week all season every season and then the euros and world Cup and Africa Cup. Imagine a season where our players are actually given the time the small clubs get to prepare for every game. We have a guy get flu and he missed 3 games! Burnley guy breaks a leg he misses 10! That's a joke!

{Ed025's Note - the fact that you think the top teams should be making all the decisions because of the lower clubs ineptitude tells me all i need to know about your clubs supporters jezza, its not only selfish but morally wrong mate..

11.) 23 Nov 2020 13:24:31
Fully agree with you, 025. However, not all liverpool supporters sit in ivory towers like jezza.

12.) 23 Nov 2020 12:29:10
Totally agree Ed025 I do get very embarrassed at the antics of the owners to extort money from the fans. Unfortuneatley the fans who have no say whatsoever regarding what decisions the owners make get tarnished by association mate.

{Ed025's Note - they do barry but only the ones who condone it mate..

13.) 23 Nov 2020 12:31:02
If they can't do the job let someone who can? I maintain that the only reason the small clubs don't care about players welfare is because they think it will work out in their favour in competition.

{Ed025's Note - some of the smaller clubs are very well run jezza and have very competent board members, in the end they will do what is in the interest of their own club which is only fair, lets just hope the bullying from the big boys doesn,t prevail as some of the lesser clubs could go under mate..



15 Nov 2020 15:26:22
So sad to hear of the passing of Ray Clemence, a true great for the club.


1.) 15 Nov 2020 15:36:15
A legend in my eyes. RIP Ray YNWA.




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02 May 2021 19:19:19
I agree, Neville certainly thinks he some sort of sage, perhaps over confident in his own intellect at times.


{Ed0666's Note - there’s no doubt at seldom times he has some sagacious things to say but to endorse violence is ridiculous and sackable in my opinion. But Sky won’t because their petrified he goes to a rival. He’s not even a great pundit he’s just recognizable and experienced. Replace him with Kyle Martino whose less invested and so more objective



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25 Apr 2021 11:59:57
I don’t doubt a word of what ed2 says but it is heartbreaking to read. It seems as though the game has to be restructured because of the greed at the very top of the pyramid and I include UEFA and FIFA in that. Perez alluded to the fact that the big clubs are struggling financially but what I don’t understand is why they won’t just face the exact same fate in say another 20years, as surely all that will happen by generating more money is the players, agents, hangers on etc will all just demand more again and the same problems exists just with higher sums involved. That doesn’t seem to answer to the problem to me, just kicking the problem down the line to the detriment of the sport its self?


{Ed002's Note - Football has to naturally evolve, as it did with the Premier Leagues and Champions League.}



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21 Mar 2021 22:31:55
A shame to see him go but I know ed1 (who is a better judge of a player than me) has felt he plays within himself an awful lot. I’ll miss him wriggling out out having three men around him and somehow still coming out with the ball. Got some terrific attributes and rarely injured. Good luck to him, seems like a genuinely nice guy too. From relegation to champions league and premier league winner, will always have a special place in the history of the club which is no mean feat.


{Ed0666's Note - hey Gini moves on with my blessing he’s been tremendous for up until a few months ago. He’s a genuinely good human being does a bunch for charity and I think Barcelona need him more than we do.



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01 Feb 2021 23:12:11
He has to be signed before his bedtime at 9pm.





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18 Apr 2021 19:22:16
With the greatest of respect Ed2, it’s a stretch to suggest that one of the benefits is the opportunity for fans to visit other cities more often, unless there is going to be subsidised travel. C.V. permitting, we’re all free to go wherever we want to anyway.


{Ed002's Note - Why would there be subsidised travel? Right now the fans would perhaps not visit somewhere like Milan - this will give them a reason to.}



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04 Apr 2021 21:03:15
Anyone who would turn on Phillips should that happen on Tuesday, ought to hang their head in shame. He’s not VVD, no one should expect him to be at that level, but that lad has barely put a foot wrong. He’s massively stepped up to the plate, hasn’t crumbled under the pressure he’s been under and playing with various partners. He’s headed everything and I think his positional play has in the main been pretty spot on. He’s a case of someone grabbing his chance with both hands, as I say I’m not saying he’s the best centre back in the league but I think he is playing as the best version of himself. I wish Klopp had kept faith with him earlier in the season and we’d had fab in midfield, what a difference having him back in centre mid has made, I am delighted for Philips and I think he’s proven himself capable of a career in premier league football.




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16 Mar 2021 23:09:48
It’s definitely Mo up to this point, top scorer in the PL and with the garbage results we’ve seen recently I can’t really see anyone even close to him for that accolade (although to be honest who cares) . Nat has been outstanding and I say that in consideration for what I expect from him, I. e his ‘really good’ might be VVD’s average, if that makes sense. He’s not VVD but my God that lad will head and tackle anything, and some of his clearances from crosses both with head and feet have saved our bacon big time. I can’t really understand what Klopp’s reluctance to play him has been but he’s barely put a foot wrong, certainly by a 4th choice CB standard. He’s gets an A+ from me so far.




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13 Feb 2021 23:30:31
Absolute BS, we were top of the league for a large portion of the season so far. No team can cope with the amount of injuries we’ve had, you can’t loose you’re centre backs for 3/ 4 of a season and not pay the price for that. The whole team is suffering with that, the midfield is weakened which weakens the attack.
As for Juergen, we all know that he is almost the antithesis of someone like Pep, Jurgen is a highly emotional guy which is the reason he fits this club like a glove. The frustrations of losing so many players must be extremely hard to take. But for a minute, imagine the frustration of not being able to attend your own mother’s funeral, can you even begin to imagine that for a second?
I’ll bet every single person on this site would take a MINIMUM of a month off work upon the death of a parent. The club should encourage Jurgen to take time off the guy should be given time to grieve and that would be as true even if we were sitting 12 points clear at the top. In my opinion the club have a duty of care to Jurgen and if that includes forcing him to take time off then that’s what they should do, it will be to the long term benefit of both him and the club.
I can’t comprehend the inhumanity of not being able to attend your own mothers funeral, let alone what he must be going through after losing his Mum. Frankly if he needs until pre-season off, i would give it to him. The emotional toil of last season and what he has endured recently, we should and must support him through this time. Jurgen Klopp YNWA.




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06 Feb 2021 20:28:36
Great chance to see how minamino and ings work as a pair!