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11 Dec 2015 09:15:57
Eds, hi.

Thanks for particularly great responses recently.

Any chance of getting an update on what JK's view is to our various loanees and if any might return either in Jan or beyond.

Particularly keen to hear about Markovic, Ilori, and Wisdom, but also the youngsters yet to really have a run in the first team.

Also, where's Flanno with his injury?

Ta, as always.


Rob.

Robbboz

{Ed001's Note - right now it doesn't look like anything will change with regard to those out on loan for the season. Klopp is still assessing things, both those out on loan and the options within the club. He will continue to chat with the loanees and see how they are getting on, so it will only be those who are not making progress on loan that are likely to be considered for a recall. Potentially Wisdom, though Norwich paid money for the loan, so they might not be willing to tear up the contract.

Flanno is, right now, possibly back for the busy Christmas period, but he will need to be eased back or he will suffer like Sturridge.}


1.) 12 Dec 2015 09:30:10
Cheers Ed, do you know if those three would be keen on a Liverpool return? I heard Markovic and Ilori were both very frustrated prior to their loan moves, with Ilori hoping the loan to buy option would be fulfilled.

Cheers again.

{Ed001's Note - Ilori is still considering his options, he did want out but managers have come and gone and he is unsure. Markovic just wants to play, as does Wisdom. All three would happily come back if they are going to be given a chance to prove themselves. Wisdom is particularly keen to have a future with us.}


2.) 12 Dec 2015 09:31:11
And great news about Flanno!


 

 

07 Nov 2015 14:04:28
Don't believe it personally but any truth in this story Mourhino was sounded out before Klopp was approached?

Not trying to stir anything, delighted that Klopp is here - and we are starting to see signs of his worth. It really is something that not long ago we had Roy Hodgson and now we have Jurgen Klopp.

Just curious, I guess.

Robbboz

{Ed002's Note - No.}


1.) 07 Nov 2015 17:32:58
Cheers Ed2.


2.) 08 Nov 2015 07:40:54
I know many will disagree but if things had been different and we didn't get Klopp Jose is about the only other manager that would have excited me so much. Don't get me wrong I absolutely love Klopp and like many of u he was my first choice but The Mou was a close second.


3.) 08 Nov 2015 09:52:05
I'm not saying I like the guy as a person, find him entertaining enough, but based on managerial skill, knowledge, experience, mentality etc, call it what u want there's not many who are better than him.


 

 

27 Oct 2015 07:45:42
Hi Eds,

I have searched but not seen it covered already; any truth in LFC not pursuing Dortmund players? Or is anyone fair game?

Subotic (spelling? Sorry) has been mentioned on here but other than that nothing else of any certainty.

Would be grateful to have your knowledge and views?

Many thanks,



Rob.

Robbboz

{Ed002's Note - Klopp said in an interview that he would not go after any Dortmund players - but I suspect they would be willing to sell Subotic.}


1.) 27 Oct 2015 23:47:51
Thanks Ed2.

What I wonder is Klopp not pursuing players doesn't mean the transfer committee won't? I chose my words carefully in the initial question.

Ed, do you know if the transfer committee will continue to operate in the same way? Was it not created to temper Rodgers' pursuit of players?

Ta,


Rob.

{Ed002's Note - (a) Liverpool will not compromise Klopp by doing such things. (b) I don't see any significant change right now.}


2.) 29 Oct 2015 06:22:47
Thanks Ed!


 

 

06 Jul 2015 16:18:11
Ed1, seems like the management team is taking shape - great news. Any further news on the first team coach, as that post is still apparently vacant?

We've discussed the need for players' fitness in a high press system, so would have thought Pako would have been a great addition to the setup. Any approach been made to him?

Have looked in archives, not seen anything beyond speculation so far?

Robbboz

{Ed001's Note - nothing news wise on that mate, Pako was interested in the assistant managers role, I doubt he would have any interest in being the coach. He is trying to prove himself as a manager now.}


1.) 07 Jul 2015 00:38:59
Ed. Thanks for all of your hard work this site has seriously been the place to get the best info. Do you think that now rodgers has sorted out the management team this shows a serious backing from the club? Some reports saying he will have until Christmas etc but can't see the club letting him shape the management team if they are thinking about short term results and replacing him in a matter of months. Cheers.

{Ed030's Note - I believe it shows they are giving him all the resources to prove himself, here we will found out if he is good enough for the job. }


2.) 07 Jul 2015 08:19:30
Ed030?. It goes all the way up to 30. Somebody catch me *feints*

I think that is a fair proposition though. Only problem is trying to reorganise everything mid season if he does fail. Time will tell.

{Ed001's Note - there is an Ed039 as well, we used to have an Ed052 at one time.}


3.) 07 Jul 2015 10:20:54
Do you guys meet up for 5 asides?

{Ed001's Note - no mate, most of the other editors are far too old for that. When Ed003 talks about his time during the war, he is referring to the Crimean War.}


4.) 07 Jul 2015 10:21:28
Guys/gals* no discrimination


5.) 07 Jul 2015 20:05:28
Can I be Ed69??
*gets his coat*


 

 

19 Jun 2015 08:41:45
Eds, hi!

Metro talking up Liverpool interest in Illarramendi - anything in it?

Would you be able to disclose which players the club is actually actively pursing currently? Possibles and probables?

Many thanks as always,



Rob

Robbboz

{Ed001's Note - he is looking to leave Madrid, but that is about all that is happening right now. This is just someone drumming up some interest in him, to try and get him a move. Personally I think he will be a late window mover, for a club that has explored all its other options, due to the way he has underperformed, his high wages and likely transfer fee. So you will probably have to get used to seeing him linked with clubs over the next month or two.}


1.) 19 Jun 2015 10:22:22
Thanks Ed!

Are we considering him?

The only other players I am clear we are pursuing are Clyne, Kovacic, Gomez - and Macca has mentioned Konoplyanka although we've seen nothing more since.

Anyone else we have confirmed interest in?

Even if we don't go for all of these it looks like we will add quite a few again this window especially if we do still go for an experienced prolific striker?

Ta as always,


Rob

{Ed001's Note - like I said he is looking to leave but there has been little real interest, despite his reps making sure to link him with us and Arsenal. Maybe later in the window when other players have moved or can't be obtained he might become a target, but I would not hold my breath on that.

Confirmed interest? No. A lot of the stories are players looking for a move and so being linked or online hacks needing to whore for clicks and so making up stories.}


2.) 19 Jun 2015 11:12:37
Great responses Ed with a definite ring of truth. From Liverpool's perspective I'd say Illarramendi is way down the list of targets after another midfielder, right-back, left-back, striker and Sterling replacement. He'll probably end up at West Ham on loan.


3.) 19 Jun 2015 11:54:14
Great responses Ed, ta.

RedKev, do we really need more mids, RBs and LBs? We have Moreno, Enrique, Flano, Wisdom, possibly Manquillo - Clyne if he signs.

Mids are in abundance as we know, and we now have Milner, possibly Kovacic or Kono from what we are reading.

Strikers, without a doubt. With the business we have already done & rumoured to be about to do, I would say we should spend whatever the club is available to afford on the best striker they can possibly get to come in. But I'm just a fan, not FSG/LFCs accountant ;)

I guess we have to see how things play out with Sterling as this possibly determines how much of what will be available to spend, eh?


4.) 19 Jun 2015 13:14:21
Well Clyne is the RB I'm referring to, Flanagan won't be fit until Janury at the earliest and Enrique needs to be replaced asap. Personally I don't think Kovacic should be a priority. I would like Skrtel replaced and Firmino & Aubameyang to come in with Sterling, Borini & Balotelli leaving.


5.) 19 Jun 2015 14:13:48
I agree that we need a striker but if the right one isn't available then I think we would be best bringing in another creative forward like firmino to aid the strikers we already have. I think we will try to sell borini and balotelli regardless but if we can't get a striker I can see lambert staying, leaving us with lambert ings origi sturridge and sinclair. If only firmino is available I would rather have a team with coutinho and firmino behind these guys instead of going out and spending big on the likes of dzeko or benteke who don't suit at all, just to satisfy the fan's plee for a striker. Just an opinion


6.) 19 Jun 2015 15:01:58
Fair shout.

Not that this would necessarily be Rodgers' modus operandi but Kovacic would be a good shout to play from deep. We've got Can, so I don't see why we would need Konplyanka other than for depth should Can be injured but Kovacic would give us the option of a more attacking creative set up. If we need a big man in front of the CB(s) then bring on Can. We've got Lucas and Allen as back up there, but I would see Kovacic as an upgrade on either of them. Tough for Lucas although I recall he did say he was happy to be a squad player a few seasons ago.


 

 

 

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19 Jan 2016 15:03:42
Question for Ed1 please, as a fan of the club.

Ed, contemplating the Klopp has said he finds the timetable "far more brutal" than in Germany, and given how the players are (apparently) taking time to adapt to the intensity of the training and demands of Gegenpressing - which has supposedly led to several injuries and players not being available do you think:

1) Klopp underestimated the demands of the game over here?

2) As a caveat of that do you think it will become necessary to have a larger pool of quality players that can seamlessly rotate into the 1st team?

3) If so, do you think it is achievable that Liverpool can actually recruit those players required - and could we afford to?

4) If not then what do you see as the long term solution/ outcome?

I played rugby in my sporting days and it always took a few weeks to get "bump fit" at the beginning of pre-season.

We had 2 weeks of camp where we trained 3 times a day, hard physical training. There were lots of injuries, lots of physio sessions, lots of strapping up ankles, but it toughened us up - as the season went on we had fewer injuries as our bodies seemed to adapt. I know it's a different sport, but the concept is mostly the same.

Thanks for your insight, always enjoy reading the site.

Best,



Rob.

Robbboz

{Ed001's Note - 1) Yes, I am sure he never realised just quite how tough it is here, with every game having a much higher intensity than most other leagues around the world.

2) No, they just need to be fitter, we already have a ridiculously large squad.

3) We don't need to.

4) Getting a full preseason in will make the world of difference. I fully agree with your rugby comparison, that is the major problem, the training was too soft and focused on possession and did not do enough to get the players fit. Given time the players will get fitter.}


1.) 19 Jan 2016 16:47:35
Ed1, you believe we already have the players for next season without recruiting too much in the Summer? With Matip coming in which other areas would you strengthen? Would a pacey winger help the squad?

{Ed001's Note - we have Ojo, Ibe, Markovic, Kent on the books for that. We need to sell more first.}


2.) 19 Jan 2016 18:30:24
We have a large squad, who don't seemlessly rotate into the starting eleven. We have had a few injuries, but how many players have played bar the fa cup game, that are not senior players? We have too many high waged players who don't add anything or seem to play well in our style. Considering we are still in 4 competitions, and our injuries, we have used most of the squad, but some just haven't offered much.


3.) 20 Jan 2016 10:41:31
Thanks for the reply Ed.

Yes, I agree we have some great youngsters that will hopefully come through the ranks. A shame about Sterling and now it looks like Sinclair has let himself down too.

Do you think Markovic has a future with us? I hope so, I rate him. I have seen Ed2 say he feels Markovic's future may lie elsewhere after his loan spell?

I hope our squad has what it takes to get fit, and the quality can come through.

As far as recruiting players goes, look at Barcelona or Real Madrid (I know, I know - those two clubs are very different circumstances, in very different leagues - but, equally, look how they dominate in Europe) which, if we consider their foremost strikers - Messi, Neymar, Suarez/ Bale, Ronaldo, Benzema - goes to show a team can (happily? ) have several quality players of high calibre in the squad. One could even argue they must in order to remain dominant. I mean, it's like a fantasy football squad.

Imagine having (a fit) Sturridge, with Lewandowski, Aubameyang, Bacca, Reus, Couthino, Firmino, in the same squad? On the one hand it sounds ridiculous, but then look at the biggest clubs in Europe and their squads. Until we have players of the highest calibre playing for the club I fear we will always struggle on the biggest stages.

It is quite depressing it is considered so ridiculous to suggest we might have a squad of that calibre. Don't get me wrong some of the youngsters coming through may eventually be some of the biggest names in the game, but will they stay if they are not playing along other big names of the game at Anfield.

Sorry if I am getting carried away, just musings of a Wednesday morning, distracting me from reality.

{Ed001's Note - Markovic would like to leave, he was unhappy with his treatment by the club.}


 

 

22 Dec 2015 00:26:53
Ed1, as someone who I see as having a real insight into the game, an insight I respect, and with an interest in Liverpool FC particularly - what do you see as the issue with our beloved clubs lack of consistent results?

Is it just a matter of time?

Have previous regimes assembled a group of players, of quality albeit, that just aren't going to gel? Not slating anyone, but it's no secret that certain high profile signings of recent times are not looking like being the right sort of player - whatever their inherent quality.

Grateful for any insight.

Best,



Rob.

Robbboz

{Ed001's Note - it is a mixture of things, players not good enough, a system they are struggling to adapt to and training that is draining them of energy. This season is going to be inconsistent, we just need to be patient and give Klopp a couple of seasons to work his magic. What he does is not a quick fix, there are no sticking plasters to patch it up for a few hours. This is a long term solution that requires a bit of short term pain to get through in order to receive the long term gain.}


1.) 22 Dec 2015 10:05:18
Did Klopp say in a interview it would take anything up to 4 years for him to win the league?

{Ed001's Note - not sure what the exact quote was, but he will be doing well to win the league no matter how long he is here. Fingers crossed 4 years is within reach.}


2.) 22 Dec 2015 10:35:42
He said (paraphrasing) ' if I am sitting here as Liverpool manager in 4 years I think we will have won at least 1 title'.

"Title" is open to interpretation for someone who does not class English as his first language.
We are never going to have the resources of Chelsea, Man City, Man United or Arsenal and it's possible Spurs could overtake us not to mention West Ham.
If we win the league it would be a massive achievement.


3.) 22 Dec 2015 10:47:35
I'm not really worried about West Ham to be honest mate, they have along way to go to be a top Side.


4.) 22 Dec 2015 10:48:38
If Jürgen Klopp translated the German sentence (einen Titel gewinnen) literally, it meant "winning silverware". Only JK will know if he meant the league or not.
But I would guess that he meant winning a trophy with LFC.
So, quite a realistic assessement, not overly optimistic nor overly pessimistic

Sorry to act like a smart aleck, but I needed a reason to wish all of you a merry christmas an a happy (hopefully trophy-laden) new year.

M.


5.) 22 Dec 2015 13:59:36
That is true, Marco. I speak fluent french and in France as well as other European countries, a "title" or "Titre" in French means a trophy or silverware, literally. Hence, I cannot say what Klopp meant by what Ron said he said. i do know that in the context of the conversation he was havin with reporters that day, he meant a title as in the PL title.


6.) 22 Dec 2015 19:13:49
He was (mis? ) quoted at the time as saying he'd win the league in 4 years - I think it's the league title our fans crave, really.


7.) 23 Dec 2015 00:38:27
He meant silverware. In that interview he did say 'title'. But in another, he elaborated and said by title he meant trophy.


 

 

10 Oct 2015 08:54:19
Apologies if this has been done.

Now Klopp is here - any ideas yet on what will happen with the likes of Illori and others that were left on the fringe by BR?

Robbboz

{Ed002's Note - A number of the players out on loan are on loans with options to buy and (a) depending how the players perform and (b) the potential value of the players next summer will determine if the clubs they are loaned to buy them. Liverpool will need income before the summer transfer window opens and these players can move before then and then either stay on or even be sold as a profit. Alberto seems to be completely out of the picture. Markovich is a different matter. As has been explained, Liverpool took him far to soon and he wasn't ready - they paid way over the odds and he wasted a year of his career. He has gone out on loan to try and get the career back on track so he is one who may well return next summer. As for the others, Ojo and Canos are probably the pick of the outfield players and they will come back next summer, probably in to the U21s and will, I expect, be given consideration. The goalkeepers I don't know enough about. The remaining outfield players, excepting Yesil, may not make it at Liverpool. Yesil will be more interesting - he arrived at Liverpool with a very, very good reputation as a youngster. Unfortunately he struggled with injury and has otherwise never really got a look in. I think he will be looked at very carefully as next summer is really a crunch time for him - a decision will need to be made by all concerned.}


1.) 10 Oct 2015 10:06:08
TBH Ed002, Yesil's chance may have passed him by while he was injured. He has 4 first team strikers to overthrow to become a regular and i really do not see that happening. Classic example of why Origi was an absolute waste of money imo. Has the potential to be a decent player but he simply has blocked Sinclair and Yesil's route into the first team.


2.) 10 Oct 2015 12:22:59
BR said he would be world class but then again, everything bad that happened under his tenure was the TC and the players' fault.


 

 

12 Jul 2015 10:51:36
Eds, sorry for multiple questions in one post, would be grateful for any info you could offer.

1) Using search function - I gather no offer (yet?) on Cheryshev - has the club ever shown any interest?

2) The situation with Benteke has drawn on some time now. Where precisely is the club at with him - what is holding up the deal - terms with player? Price with Villa? Has the player said he would like to join LFC?

3) Ibe on loan? - Seriously?

Many thanks,

Rob

Robbboz

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to any little blow by blow accounts. I have explained the situations as I know them. As for Ibe a loan is certainly one possibility.}


1.) 12 Jul 2015 11:22:25
I can't imagine FSG will sanction anymore of the manager's insane desire to collect attacking midfielders while sending the ones we have on loan or Brendaning them.


2.) 12 Jul 2015 11:18:41
i imagine with sterling leaving, we would need ibe.


3.) 12 Jul 2015 12:24:32
Impress on loan, recalled, play well out of position, out on loan again. He is ahead of marko for me and probably most of our other attacking players bar couts firmino and sturridge


4.) 12 Jul 2015 12:54:39
I don't think he would be on the tour if he was going on loan but with this manager I guess anything could happen. Would be a real slap in the face to the kid I imagine.


5.) 12 Jul 2015 14:02:20
No more mids and wingers, pls. Good Heavens, what is it with BR and mids as well as people who think as soon as a player leaves, he should be replaced? If you have six CB's and you only need four and you sell two and replace them, u still have six and right back where you were. Simple math, really. Get Benteke, make the sales and shut up shop.


6.) 12 Jul 2015 15:07:07
Would be a really poor move, in my opinion, if we loaned out Ibe.


 

 

10 Jul 2015 08:51:24
Reus being mentioned, Eds.

Seems doubtful it would happen, any interest from the club?

Ta,
Rob.

Robbboz

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}


1.) 10 Jul 2015 09:26:03
i know this might not make any difference, but he apparently turned own a move to Barcelona because competition for places was too strong and then signed a long term contract extension at dortmund so he's unlikely to move anywhere


 

 

 

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14 Jan 2017 15:48:44
Could we replace him for £50m? Doubtful. Although we did pay a relative tuppence for him.

I would be upset if the club sold him even for £70m unless there was a suitable replacement available for less.

And I would hope the club were more astute in finding that replacement than when Suarez left, and Sanchez fell through.

I'd suggest bringing a youngster through, but who? TAA seems to be the pick of the bunch but could he fill PC's role?

Robbboz

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21 Jul 2016 08:11:42
Ed1 I have a question. About those players mentioned.

It was mentioned that Gómez may be moved because he wasn't good enough? Then he spoke with Kopp and was going to be given chance. Isn't he injured again anyhow?

Wisdom also meant to be moved on? And not good enough?

Brewitt, don't know much about.

Illori, also said to be not good enough, also meant to be sold?

Sakho's injured again, isn't he?

Matip and Lovren, are the only two senior CBs we have that are fit.

Lucas on his way out?

If some of the fringe players are moved on, or at least not good enough, and given the injuries - doesn't it make sense to have another established CB in place? Honestly don't know much about Klavan, and not sure if he was the best choice we could have made but it doesn't see like we are that flush with options - at least given injuries and doubts over those other players?

What is your opinions on those players?

Ta.

Robbboz

{Ed001's Note - nobody said Gomez was leaving because he was not good enough, no idea where you got that from. He is injured, but that is not a career threatening one, he will back fit soon but with little chance of a game.

Wisdom is likely to be moved on, but I was only including him as an example of cover if we were desperate, rather than buying yet another player.

Ilori same as Wisdom, he is there if needed.

Sakho is injured but he will be back.

In fact this is a waste of a post as you are not understanding my point and wasting my time replying to something that is just miles away from what I am talking about.}


 

 

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17 Jul 2016 00:39:20
I've no strong feelings about Bogdan, I thought he had had a few fair performances, but by all accounts he is the one driving a move away.

I am of the view that if a player wants to hang on he can damage his career by not playing - which was the point I wanted to make, and also that I don't see the massive wages earned by players is due to (or can be justified by) a limited time frame in which to earn their money - as was suggested.

It looks as though he would be third choice at best if he were to stay, or maybe fourth if Ward has a successful loan. If he and a suitor don't find some middle ground he stands to lose more than any other party in the long run at least.

Like I said I have no strong feelings about him specifically but I don't agree with the justification of huge wages - regardless of what he earns particularly.

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14 Jul 2016 22:23:32
I thought it was injury holding up Chilwell's deal? He cannot pass the medical or something? Or was this someone else?

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14 Jul 2016 22:19:21
Bogdan is on like £15k a week, most folks have to work 6 months or more for that kind of cash. If he was wise he'd be putting something away to set himself up for after football, like all footballers should. I'm sorry but having a time limit on your career does not justify the sort of money footballers earn. They earn it because they are but a precious percentile of humanity that is capable of playing at the highest level and are able to command remuneration in accordance with the demand for their particular skill set. Bogdan either will or will not take a pay cut and either will or will not move on as a result. As time wears down on the window he will probably be under more pressure to take a pay cut if it's not settled sooner. He is clearly out of Klopp's plans and he would be hurting his future prospects, beyond Liverpool and possibly beyond his next club if he finds himself in Jose Enrique's situation where he's just not playing football and has no appeal to any another club. If Wigan don't flinch first he should take the pay cut and move for his own sake.

Robbboz

{Ed041's Note - why should he lose money Liverpool were willing to oy him because you suddenly don't want him now?


 

 

 

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28 May 2016 17:48:19
If there was ever any question of "tapping up" by Klopp, I suppose it doesn't hurt that Bayern have publicly told the player to go.

He could potentially be very good, but I can also see it being a bit of a disaster for the clubs PR if he doesn't rein in the social media stuff.

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23 May 2016 17:01:43
How many times has a player said this just before move? Ancelotti has more or less said he has no plans for the lad, so let's see how this pans out. Sounds like a move is more likely than not, although maybe not to us. If we do go in for him, maybe this is just his new agent putting some distance between him and Kopp to try and avoid tapping up accusations as the club is under the spotlight thanks to Stevie G and it looks like this same scenario has possibly scuppered a Zielinski deal.

Let's see how it plays out.

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20 Jan 2016 10:41:31
Thanks for the reply Ed.

Yes, I agree we have some great youngsters that will hopefully come through the ranks. A shame about Sterling and now it looks like Sinclair has let himself down too.

Do you think Markovic has a future with us? I hope so, I rate him. I have seen Ed2 say he feels Markovic's future may lie elsewhere after his loan spell?

I hope our squad has what it takes to get fit, and the quality can come through.

As far as recruiting players goes, look at Barcelona or Real Madrid (I know, I know - those two clubs are very different circumstances, in very different leagues - but, equally, look how they dominate in Europe) which, if we consider their foremost strikers - Messi, Neymar, Suarez/ Bale, Ronaldo, Benzema - goes to show a team can (happily? ) have several quality players of high calibre in the squad. One could even argue they must in order to remain dominant. I mean, it's like a fantasy football squad.

Imagine having (a fit) Sturridge, with Lewandowski, Aubameyang, Bacca, Reus, Couthino, Firmino, in the same squad? On the one hand it sounds ridiculous, but then look at the biggest clubs in Europe and their squads. Until we have players of the highest calibre playing for the club I fear we will always struggle on the biggest stages.

It is quite depressing it is considered so ridiculous to suggest we might have a squad of that calibre. Don't get me wrong some of the youngsters coming through may eventually be some of the biggest names in the game, but will they stay if they are not playing along other big names of the game at Anfield.

Sorry if I am getting carried away, just musings of a Wednesday morning, distracting me from reality.

Robbboz

{Ed001's Note - Markovic would like to leave, he was unhappy with his treatment by the club.}


 

 

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22 Dec 2015 19:13:49
He was (mis? ) quoted at the time as saying he'd win the league in 4 years - I think it's the league title our fans crave, really.

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22 Dec 2015 00:15:11
Was it Michael Owen Ed2?

Aww, please don't leave us hanging Ed.

Robbboz

{Ed002's Note - It was discussed at the time and it was Joe Cole.}