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24 Jan 2020 22:55:53
I was working last night so couldn’t watch the game properly (had it my phone checking when I could) so I relied on people on this website to tell me how we played. My perception from your posts was that we played badly, got torn apart but managed to somehow dig in and get the win.

I’ve just watched the full game and I have to say I’m not sure what game half of you were watching. Wolves got in behind us a few times but that’s exactly what I expected. We hold high line you’d have to be stupid to think Traore wouldn’t get a few chances. Especially with them playing at home.

But for every chance they had we had a better chance.
We could’ve won the game a lot more comfortably but like the Utd game we didn’t take our chances and they got up a head of steam but by the end of the game we were back in control.

I thought we played very well. That Wolves team did the double over City this season I’m really not sure what some people expected. They’re a really good team with technically gifted players and pace in their side. Exactly the type of team that give top sides a run for their money as we leave space in behind and they have the ability in midfield and pace upfront to exploit it.

I know we are on this great run but we won’t go out and smash every team 3,4 or 5-0. Sometimes you come up against a good side who tests you and in those games you have to show the grit, determination and quality to come out on top and that’s exactly what we did.
Great performance in my eyes. YNWA.

Beckers pecker

1.) 25 Jan 2020 08:29:06
How long is Salah going to waste opportunities to score or set up a goal. It’s getting frustrating and must be annoying for the players. Will eventually cost us points. Not the best season for him but we’re top so I know I shouldn’t be pointing this out.


2.) 25 Jan 2020 09:08:14
Have to agree WM73. The man frustrates me so much this season by taking too many touches, holding up the ball too long, playing a poor heavy pass or just running in to a defender.
However just when I lose patience and start begging klopp to replace him he scores or assists!
Dont think he's been at his best tho along with Robertson for the last few games.


3.) 25 Jan 2020 09:43:20
We weren't at our best and still could have scored a few more goals, wolves were good and the boys had to dig deep and at one point I'd say most of us would have settled for a draw but it just showed what this team is about when we went on to score (a great goal, salah assist) and win.


4.) 25 Jan 2020 09:49:23
OP, I don't know those who were posting such posts that let you believe that we got torn apart cos I actually watch ALL of the game live and I did not get that impression. We did NOT steal anything in the game. We earned EVERYTHING fair and square. Wolves are a brilliant team and if anyone thought we would not struggle against them is completely deluded, uninformed or darn right arrogant. WE struggled massively that night and I was not surprised at all.

Wolves were the toughest opponent we have had this season, IMO and that was already clear in the first game at Anfield. They play great football and matched us strength for strength so it was normally for me, a game I expected. Our boys battled hard and overcame an injury to Mane and tho, we could have conceded had Allison not been brilliant BUT at the same time, Patricio Kept them in the game as well.

What I will say is that we wanted it more and got the goal our perseverance, desire, grit and fighting spirit deserved under difficult conditions vs a brilliant opponent so for me on that level, it was a great, warrior-like performance displayed by the Mental Giants from Merseyside.


5.) 25 Jan 2020 10:09:10
I really wouldn't rely on updates on here, lol especially not the live updates! We dug in and got the result. Probably even in terms of clear cut chances but from memory we really messed up some glorious chances in the box. I think the Mane injury game hurt us and we didn't adjust as well as we could hav in-game.


6.) 25 Jan 2020 11:19:52
Spot on, Faith.


7.) 25 Jan 2020 12:22:44
I think during the game you can get caught up in the emotion of the game. We are all so desperate to see us clinch 19 (or #1 if your from the blue side of liverpool) .
When wolves attacked there did feel that they had a genuine chance or creating an opportunity. I wouldn't say they carved us open but definitely a tough game, some of which due to poor decision making from us, again.


8.) 25 Jan 2020 14:59:59
WYred has called it right. I go to all our home games and watch most of the away games live on the box. Whenever I can, I watch a full 90 minutes plus recording of the game when the dust has settled a bit and I can take a more relaxed, analytical view of the game. Take away the uncertainty, the emotion and the tension of a live game of football and it is a very different experience indeed. This season in particular, I have often come home from a Liverpool game or finished watching a Liverpool game live on the box and thought it was a tough game which could have gone either way. Watching it again later, it is very often the case that the opposition had very few chances and it was a relatively comfortable win for the Reds. Watching live, I get panicky when the opposition cross the halfway line even though I have full confidence in VVD, Joe Gomez, Alisson and the rest. I guess it will need Liverpool to win a few PL titles before I am even a bit more relaxed watching us live, either at Anfield or on the box.


9.) 25 Jan 2020 16:13:41
WW, I fully agree with you about being nervous. For me, I'm over all that cos I expect that the opposition will have their moments which will cause us hairy moments. That is part of the game and as Klopp says, winning all these games in a row is not easy. We now have a team that I no longer fear for, one that even if we concede, I'm good cos I know we will ramp up the pressure and come out swinging after we concede so in the end, there is nothing to fear but fear itself, IMO.


10.) 25 Jan 2020 19:01:05
Red Meister, I suspect I may be a tad older than you and I have been watching The Mighty Reds for more than 50 years (I am probably even older than Ed025). In that time, of course, I have seen us win everything there is to win but I still get nervous about every single game we play. I am actually very nervous about tomorrow’s game against Shrewsbury although I am not even that bothered about the FA Cup. It is strange because I am a very optimistic, “glass half full” person normally but not when it comes to Liverpool. A psychologist could probably explain it but I can’t!


 

 

20 Oct 2019 23:51:39
I’ve replied to a couple of posts about the officiating today but wanted to make my own thread because I want to know if anyone else is feeling like I am.
Long story short I’m sick of it. I can take a ref missing a foul or handball or a linesman missing an offside it’s happened since football began and is part of the game.

What I can’t take is 4 people being paid to review decisions in slow motion at a number of different angles and still get it wrong. I’m not just talking about our game today, look at Spurs yesterday and countless decisions so far this season.
Wasn’t VAR supposed to give us a better quality of officiating? Isn’t that why we put up with the breaks in play and the awkward minute after every goal to see if we can celebrate or not?

It’s such a shame that at a point in time when the team I’ve loved since I was born in the 70’s is finally back to challenge at the top of the European game they are ruining the game with VAR. Don’t get me wrong it’s not the idea that’s bad it’s the imbeciles that run it.

I’m seriously at the point of turning my back on the Premier League and just supporting a local team because this just isn’t football anymore.

Beckers pecker

{Ed033's Note - You mean it's not cricket. :)


1.) 21 Oct 2019 00:40:42
I cannot stand VAR and what it does to the game of football but there were no errors made by the video ref. The onfield moron in the black was the one who messed a lot of decisions up. Awful refereeing.


2.) 21 Oct 2019 02:36:06
So surprised they didn't chalk off the goal lfc scored the way this officiating was going. Awful desicion by the refs clearly all in favour of man Utd. At the end of the day what is to be must be if we will win tje league it will hapoen never stop believing Ynwa.


3.) 21 Oct 2019 04:06:30
As has been alluded to before the VAR is used to back up the incompetency of the on field officials rather than make any actual meaningful change. Before the game ended I said to my friend something very similar to what Klopp said in his post match interview that VAR is good for factual, provable stuff (handballs, offside) but never seems to do anything about refereeing decisions except support them. We can't complain too much, as we have benefited from such calls as well (the Leicester penalty an example of a 50/ 50 decision going our way because the ref gave the penalty at first - I'm sure if he didn't give it initially VAR wouldn't of overturned it), but the VAR does feel like it is being used to support poor officiating, rather than to actually correct it.


4.) 21 Oct 2019 04:49:50
The problem with VAR is it’s becoming more and more common to play on with the view that VAR will go back and review if necessary (as with the foul on Origi) however the VAR ‘clear and obvious error’ means it’s almost impossible to overrule the referees original decision.

That means, than in effect where the ref would very likely have given a foul previously, the attacking team now gets the opportunity to play on and score instead.

There are also many times where offside is not being flagged (as they’ve been told not to do when it’s close call), it goes out for a corner and the attacking side gets another scoring chance whereas in the past the linesman would have flagged at least 70% of the time.

This has happened in Liverpool’s favour too, so it’s not about being for or against any team, it just seems clear to me that in certain situations the tendency to play on and let VAR check for mistakes later is creating very different outcomes and can work heavily against one team or the other due to the way it’s being used.


5.) 21 Oct 2019 05:49:20
Even forgetting VAR for one moment here’s one example of the sheer incompetence at times of the officials.

Fabinho booked for a tackle from behind. Less than two minutes later Rojo takes Fabinho out in a similar fashion and no booking.

The lack of consistency is ridiculous at times.


6.) 21 Oct 2019 07:15:04
I didn't think the ref was that bad. He made a mistake on the foul leading to their goal and as you say a booking not long after Fabinho. The VAR issue is frustrating, not just to Liverpool fans but to most fans. Its confusing and irritating, which I'm pretty sure its not what it's meant to be.
The bigger issue for me is why we where so flat? The fear of going to OT and our poor record there? Again we didn't get going, shame really.


7.) 21 Oct 2019 08:30:05
More than a shame Irish. The VAR and ref debate is not that important to me, just papering over the issues. The real debate as you say is why do we not turn up at OT. Firmino has played 6 times at OT and been below par in all of them. Robbo and Fabs both froze. Hendo and Gini were exposed in the sense that Man U matched or bettered their work rate and then there is very little left. Milner not playing was a terrible decision from Klopp, he learn't nothing from our last visit to OT. Get Milner in midfield they would't bully him. Gini and Hendo just played 2 internationals.

We spent the first half hoofing the ball from back to front. Until the last 15 minutes we never put 5 passes together. It will be really interesting to see who Klopp picks to start agains't Spurs.


8.) 21 Oct 2019 08:19:10
I think you watched a different game then Irish. The ref even stopped the games for James injury when Liverpool had the ball but played on when he had a head injury and Utd had the ball.

{Ed025's Note - that did happen denzil, but irish was right when he said liverpool were flat from the start, you can blame the ref all you want and yes he was awful, but you cant get away from the fact liverpool never turned up mate..


9.) 21 Oct 2019 08:42:53
The problem with VAR is two-fold (and exactly as JK pointed out post-game) . When certain incidents occur in games referees are now thinking "VAR will pull it back if I've made an obvious error. " so they don't follow their immediate feeling to award a free-kick, penalty, card or whatever but the bar has been set so high by the premiership for instances of "obvious errors" that the video officials tend not to overrule or recommend an overrule. What is worse they have made absolutely zero use of pitch-side monitors even though they're available. Yesterday, they merely had to recommend that Martin Atkinson look at the foul in the Man United goal build-up at the pitch-side monitor. If he then awarded a goal we immediately know he didn't feel the kick in the shin was sufficient and we live (and moan) with the decision BUT right now it feels like they are avoiding making decisions which actually defeats the purpose of the introduction of VAR in the first place.

{Ed025's Note - its an absolute joke reynard, for me it should be suspended until they figure out a way to implement it properly mate..


10.) 21 Oct 2019 08:43:52
There were 3 occasions Wassa when Utd players cynically stopped attacks exactly as Fabinho did yet no yellow cards.
Also I’ll tell you what, Mane’s goal was handball and VAR got that right. However, had it been Lindelof that handled the ball and the ref not give a pen you can guarantee that VAR wouldn’t have overruled it.
It seems it only works for handballs and offsides IF a goal is scored. I go back to City’s goal against Spurs when Laporte was adjudged to have handballed it in the build up. The guy jumped for a header and it flicked off his arm! Never a handball and would never be given against the defending team.
VAR was supposed to clear up the officiating in the game and give us correct decisions more often but for me it’s had the opposite effect. I have never felt so cheated in all the time I’ve been watching or playing football.


11.) 21 Oct 2019 09:51:36
I couldn't agree more Ed025 mate. Ed001 has been banging on about the obvious problems with it for quite some time but I must admit I was baffled they introduced it without sufficient thought for how it might influence the referee and pitch-side officials, let alone how they might proceed to overrule. There is no proper guidance on when to overrule and when not, "Setting the bar high" is not a protocol, it's an excuse and has made a sham of the introduction of VAR.

{Ed025's Note - your dead right reynard, referees are becoming complacent thinking that VAR will bale them out if they make a mistake, all its doing though is compounding the fact that the standard of refereeing is abysmal and relegation as well as winning championships will be decided in a studio rather than on the pitch, suspend it until they get it right i say as its ruining the game mate..


12.) 21 Oct 2019 10:13:08
Ed25 I agree. The one I feel sorry for is the watford fans. They really needed those points and they where robbed by a bad ref call and VAR.

3 points for them could seem them go on one of those runs they do.

{Ed025's Note - your right HRP and the loss of them 2 points could actually result in them getting relegated and thats my point, its a bloody joke mate..


13.) 21 Oct 2019 12:45:14
We what know what VAR is there fore in England. It is NOT there to correct human errors on the pitch. It is there to protect the on the pitch from being held accountable for his clear human errors, due to this pathetic "clear and obvious" nonsense. No other league in the big 5 leagues in Europe has that pathetic rule. Refs are actually allowed to go see the monitor and judge for themselves so that way, the center ref has the final say. In England, the refs are not even allowed to see the images themselves and get the final say. And we wonder why VAR is useless in the PL.

Now regarding the ref's perf., he was horrible and again, I can take a ref. making this a mistake here and there on both teams BUT this was not it. Our players were being penalized and carded for the very same things utd players were doing and did not get carded. Rojo alone should have been carded for his challenge on Fab and in another incident, blasting the ball against Lallana when he is on the ground after being chopped down by Young. Young for chopping Lallana down from behind either. Not a card for clear time-wasting on their side etc. Sorry, Atkinson may not be biased BUT his rank incompetence seemed to favor one team majority of the time. Peace.

{Ed025's Note - i agree with all that redwolf..


14.) 21 Oct 2019 14:49:28
Well said Redwolf. I actually felt there were ref decisions that went against United too. I don't believe there was bias but the ref was poor and unfortunately it wasn't in our favour. This being said, I wonder how many of us will complain when the shoe is on the other foot.


15.) 21 Oct 2019 15:40:22
LRG, I try to be consistent in this case. If that happened to LFC as you say and as a former athlete, I would be livid and would admit that the ref was poor cos I know exactly how it feels when the ref is having such a stinker that you thought the game was fixed. At times, that was what it felt like cos the unfairness was just too blatant to ignore or just class under the "incompetence" cupboard. Incompetence is rampant in the PL BUT this was what it. It was "incompetence" that was clearly benefiting the pother team. That would never fly with me, mate.


 

 

04 Jun 2019 22:52:01
It really is crazy how far we’ve come in such a short space of time. I’ve just realised I watched the CL final 2 years ago between Juve and Real Madrid in a bar in Puerto Banus just thinking how big the occasion was and not even daring to think we could get back to that level any time soon.
Since then we’ve been runners up and winners.
It’s absolutely mental the progression this team and club have made since Klopp arrived.
True European Royalty. YNWA.

Beckers pecker

 

 

01 Jun 2019 13:43:38
RIP Jose Antonio Reyes. Such sad news and only 35 years old. Puts today into context. YNWA.

Beckers pecker

1.) 01 Jun 2019 13:48:09
Well said 🙏🏻.


2.) 01 Jun 2019 14:43:39
Tragic. Thoughts and prayers with his young family.


3.) 01 Jun 2019 15:21:21
Sad news thoughts are with his family.


4.) 01 Jun 2019 16:22:47
Just learned about this dreadful story. RIP, Jose Antonio Reyes. May the Good Man above give his family and friends the fortitude to bear this horrible loss.


 

 

01 Jun 2019 00:33:29
Anyone worrying about Spurs being a good side let me put your minds at rest. Since the start of February they have lost to Burnley, Chelsea, Southampton, Liverpool, West Ham, Man City and Bournemouth. They also lost at home to Ajax and away to City in the CL although went through on sway goals in both ties.
That’s 9 defeats.
Liverpool have lost 1 game since the start of February away at Barcelona and we all know what happened there.
Yes Spurs are a good side and can beat anyone on their day but they are just as capable of losing to anyone on their day too.
Have faith, we’ve got this.

Beckers pecker

1.) 01 Jun 2019 06:12:37
We have got this indeed mate, my god I can't bloody wait!

{Ed001's Note - I wish you two would stop jinxing us!}


2.) 01 Jun 2019 06:44:10
Anfield Stadium postcode
L4 0TH

Just saying 😀.


3.) 01 Jun 2019 06:58:02
If the game followed straight on from the end of the season then I would be more confident.

But with this little mini break we could see anything happen.


4.) 01 Jun 2019 07:20:29
It’s football anything can happen no guarantees I’m afraid
Up the pool.


5.) 01 Jun 2019 07:30:02
I believe we can win but don’t believe for a second it’s a certainty. Spurs are a really good side and have never got this far, those players have the ability to become legends for spurs. If we underestimate them we lose. We need to approach it like every other must win game this season and hopefully it’ll be enough to see us through.


6.) 01 Jun 2019 07:48:06
I can't believe I'm reading this.

Are you serious? Never talk like that. Ever.

It's not confidence but stupidity.

It's a final. 1 game. Form out of the window. Every player both sides will have an extra 50%.


7.) 01 Jun 2019 08:38:45
Unfortunately, stupidity seems to be a common theme around some Liverpool fans 😂.


8.) 01 Jun 2019 06:30:02
Hahaha, no fear Ed mate :) . To be honest though we must be careful, there's one way Spurs will win tonight and it's in their dreams ;) . Bring them on!

On a serious note, I'm gradually getting more nervous then I was now the day is here, this is a must win for us, come on Liverpool, please, come on!


9.) 01 Jun 2019 09:28:07
If we were in spurs boots we would be amping to take liverpool out and fully believing it would happen. oh, kinda like last season. anything can happen and what is for sure will be that whatever has already happened won't influence tonight!


10.) 01 Jun 2019 09:43:37
Yeah your post comes to mind pino.


11.) 01 Jun 2019 13:15:42
Coming from the poster who said Liverpool would win the league back in December and disappeared when they didn’t. You really are a plonker lol.


12.) 01 Jun 2019 13:30:41
No harm in believing pino, it's just managing the line between being respectful and arrogant. What is the point of being downbeat though we are in our second successive final and in a third European final under klopp. I believe we can win but I don't expect we will win, complacency of an expectation of winning will practically give it to spurs. Tonight is the biggest game in their recent history, tonight will not be easy but at our best I know we can do it.


13.) 01 Jun 2019 14:06:47
I agree WYred, I don’t have any problem with anyone who thinks we will win tonight but if anyone thinks we will smash them is just deluded! Any team that reaches a champions league final deserves to be respected and must not be taken for granted. I’m really looking forward to the game and hopefully we can go one step further than last year!
People on this site criticized Real Madrid for not showing respect for Liverpool last year and those exact posters are doing the same thing to Spurs!


14.) 01 Jun 2019 14:50:52
Spot on mate, no one gets to a final who a) doesn't deserve it or b) isn't good enough. Take these spurs lot seriously and what will be will be. but above all be respectful to our opponents nothing worse then taking a team for granted, ask ac Milan who were passing out the congratulations at half time.


 

 

 

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03 Jun 2020 19:49:58
It hasn’t gone well for him at Barcelona but I remember seeing him at Dortmund and he was such an exciting talent. Better than Sancho IMO.
It’d be interesting to see if Klopp could get him back to that.

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29 May 2020 00:25:15
Click bait guys, nothing more. These journalists know exactly how to push our buttons.

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06 Mar 2020 08:31:36
Looks to me like the player’s agent is trying to engineer him a move and judging by the amount of times he’s mentioned Liverpool I’d say we are his first choice.
I can’t see any evidence of us doing anything wrong here so let’s not start panicking over something that hasn’t even happened.

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20 Feb 2020 23:01:33
Surely signing Werner would not have to mean a change of style? Whenever we sign anyone we give them time to be coached to play our style. I don’t see why Werner would be any different.

Beckers pecker

{Ed002's Note - So then he sits on the bench for an occasional run out in the Milk Cup?}


 

 

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24 Jan 2020 19:05:27
Exactly Ed1. Out of the countless academy players that come through at premier league clubs very few will make it to play regularly in the premier league. It’s elite level and not many people are elite players in any sport.
I have a friend who’s a youth coach at Spurs and his job is of course to feed the first team and he’s delighted that players like Harry Kane made it but he’s also delighted that players like Tom Carol get to have a career in the game and that makes him just as proud.

Beckers pecker

{Ed001's Note - it is always going to be the way. The job of the academies has to be more than just providing players for the first team of the club it belongs to. Most of the lads going through it will not make a professional career, so academies have to provide education and give people life skills. If they can have one breaking through a season, then they are performing miracles or the first team is weak (like at Spurs where Winks would be nowhere near a decent Spurs side).}


 

 

 

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03 Jun 2020 17:46:16
I can’t believe people are saying Lucas was underrated. Him replacing Masch at the base of our midfield sparked a very baron spell for Liverpool.
I met Lucas and he really is the nicest guy you could ever wish to meet but as a footballer he was bang average.
Too slow, dallied on the ball in dangerous positions, got caught wrong side time and time again which resulted in endless free kicks on the edge of our box.
He had good games mostly when we played good sides because back then we would sit deep with very little space between the back 4 and midfield so he didn’t get exposed. Most of the time though IMO (and I know loads disagree) he was just not good enough.
I always loved Aurelio and think outside of Liverpool he was hugely underrated. His injuries didn’t help though I suppose.

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29 May 2020 00:27:11
Liverpool fans can’t be trusted? How very dare you! 😉.

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16 Feb 2020 23:03:53
I can’t believe some are saying we should be given titles. Regardless of what the club have done financially it’s 11 blokes against 11 blokes and they were better than us. We earned nothing so we should get nothing.

By all means punish them if they have to but you can’t reward us for ultimately finishing second! It would put us level with Utd on 20 titles but we didn’t actually win 2 of them? Nah, you can’t be doing that it’s ridiculous!

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16 Feb 2020 22:50:41
KDB is a great footballer but am I the only one who thinks City are a worse team when he plays?
He tries the Hollywood balls too much which, when they come off are spectacular but when they don’t it put them under pressure.
Love him as a player and would love him at Liverpool but not the best for me.

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10 Feb 2020 05:03:47
We seem to be ok on the first ball in but after it’s cleared it’s then we are vulnerable. We seem so preoccupied with getting out and breaking that we don’t pick up properly.
It’s nitpicking as this team is immense but if there is one slight weakness that is it as far as I can see.

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