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05 May 2016 09:43:32
Eds, Denis Praet was heavily linked to us both last summer and again after JK arrived. One of you said Klopp was keen on the player, so do you know if the interest still remains and are we likely to pursue him this summer?


{Ed002's Note - Interest in Anderlecht's Dennis Praet has run hold and cold for a while and the likes of Ajax, Southampton, Newcastle, Hoffenheim and Dynamo Moscow have moved on in the past year. Both Sevilla and Valencia had offers rejected in the summer whilst Aston Villa were also being kept informed by Anderlecht of any approaches for the player, but there is no way the player will want to move there and they won't have that sort of money to spend on one player. Juventus were represented at a couple of games but were, I understand, unconvinced by the player - but I suspect interest will continue knowing that his value might well tumble as his contract is running down. Fiorentina has had several meetings with representatives of the player and Anderlecht - and were seemingly getting to the point where an agreement over a January transfer could be reached but interest in another player has given them an unexpected twist to deal with and they are now out of the picture. Arsenal has again looked at him in recent months, once they knew that there could be a January bid from elsewhere, but I am not aware of them taking it any further. I understand that Liverpool do remain interested in the Praet, and it is a player Klipperty would like. Praet may well provide more versatility than others as he has the ability to play as a winger as well. Everton (again), Bayer Leverkusen, Sevilla (again) and Borussia Dortmund have also been showing recent interest with Sevilla having met with his representatives and Anderlecht .}



15 Dec 2015 06:43:59
Posted on here last summer Eds that a guy in work who lives near Henderson in Formby, said he spoke to him last summer, and said Liverpool were looking at Demarai Gray when Bodgers was in charge. The move never came off, but do you know if we are still interested in him, and has his form been good this season. Also, roughly what would he cost, and who would you put him on par with in our current squad? Appreciate any responses.


{Ed001's Note - yes, no idea, we don't really have any similar player in the squad.}

1.) 15 Dec 2015 08:29:59
Isn't he a winger ed?

Do we really have noone like him?

That just sounds like an excuse as to whys its fine for klopp to buy him. instead of promoting someone from within, like everyone has been banging on about.

{Ed001's Note - why is it an excuse? Just because he is a winger does not mean he is like anyone within our squad. There are different types of winger you know. Did I even say we would be buying him? Try reading what is said and not jumping to ridiculous conclusions so you can try and point score.}

2.) 15 Dec 2015 08:45:54
No but if that question was asked under brodgers then it would of been we have Kent, Wilson, ibe, Marko, ojo but if you want to replace them then great. (along them lines anyway and not just by you but whoever edited it)

But now its Klopp's rein and its more of a suggestive response by you, I'm not going to say we should by him but we don't have anyone like him.

Your honestly confirming none out of Ojo, Kent, Wilson, Tex, Marko or Ibe none of the above are like gray?

{Ed001's Note - it was not suggestive, it was completely the opposite and you are reading other things into one word answers. It is you that is creating a bias, due to your own internal one. It was a quick answer because I was busy and none of those are really like Gray anyway. For starters Gray mainly plays on the left, which is a position only Wilson plays of those players you listed, as a main position. Wilson is a left footed winger, Gray is more of a right footed player on the left looking to cut in. So very different. Tex is not even a winger, so not relevant. It is clear you have never seen him play, so why are you trying to start an argument out of pure ignorance?}

3.) 15 Dec 2015 09:29:23
Definatly seen him play. Kent? Does he not play on the left and cut in with his right foot? Coutinho does it aswel.

You claimed we have noone in the squad like him, when we very well do.

{Ed001's Note - Kent plays on the right usually. Coutinho has no pace, which is Gray's game. So no we don't and clearly you don't have a clue what Gray plays like. If Ibe played consistently on the left, then we would have a comparable player, but he doesn't, so we don't.

Ignorance is showing as you have no idea what kind of player Couts is if you think they are similar! Origi would probably be the closest we have in the first team, the way he played after coming on against West Brom. But again, that is not his usual position, just him filling in there, so you can't say he is similar.}

4.) 15 Dec 2015 09:30:05
Aww man! first thing in the morning having a go at Ed? I hate it when the day starts like that! Takes hours to shake it off.

5.) 15 Dec 2015 09:46:01
Ed you have claimed in posts over the past season (s) rhay you don't keep up with the youth games.

I do.

Are you really claiming for the sake of your point that Kent mainly plays on the right. That is laughable.

Kent left! Wilson right!

That's how they play. I have watched for the past 2 years and tkent plays on the left, they may switch during games but he starts on the left. Is super quick and curs in on his right foot, exactly the same as gray. So claiming we have noone like gray in the squad isn't true.

{Ed001's Note - Kent is out on loan at Coventry, has it escaped your notice? Where has he played for them? Oh yes, on the right! Youth games are about learning, not about playing in a set role, Sterling played a lot as a full back for instance, are you going to suggest that was his position? Wilson broke through as a left winger, who got moved on the right for development purposes, until he is a regular first team player for someone, there is no definite position for him, but he has said himself he prefers the left. Why are you still arguing this?}

6.) 15 Dec 2015 09:57:02
Pretty sure Noone plays for Cardiff to be fair.

{Ed001's Note - good point.}

7.) 15 Dec 2015 10:09:56
Give up Paulo96,looks like you're owned here.

8.) 15 Dec 2015 10:23:45
I do love you ed, you have managed to twist and turn my point to suit your own argument.

If we pull it back do you not think if promoted Kent could play on the left for us instead of going for yet another player to block the youths path.

Kent and gray both counted as left wingers, do you think there is a major difference between the styles of the pair of them. Just style not experience.

{Ed001's Note - what point? You had no point, you claimed we had a bunch of players that were like Gray, when we don't.

Kent is more skill than pure pace, Gray is almost entirely pace. I would not touch Gray with a bargepole personally. He is not the answer. He is just another Nathan Redmond, not quite technically good enough to make a real difference in the Prem.}

9.) 15 Dec 2015 11:05:02
You claimed we had noone in the squad like him, when we do at least one in Kent.

You really don't watch the youth if you don't know Kent is absolutely electric in pace and yes he does have plenty of skill.

Both on the left Kent can do exactly what gray offers and more so your point is over with.

{Ed001's Note - I never said he did not have pace, I said he is not only about pace, which Gray is. This is a pointless discussion as you are trying to read things into everything said and failing to understand what I am saying. It is just you trying to be an arse and succeeding completely. You have proven nothing other than your complete inability to understand what is said and that I am wasting my time even trying to have a discussion with you.}

10.) 15 Dec 2015 11:12:46
Markovic, Pace and intellegence, Play through the middle as well on the flanks, he could cut in, hit the byline, he slows down to reach a player ahead of him, he could pick a player ahead of him and has a decent finishing abilities.

11.) 15 Dec 2015 13:26:42
My point is you said we don't really have anyone similar in the squad. Similar. We have just got to the point that both Kent and gray are similar and Kent possesses even more than gray.

So I called you on it because you weren't right.

{Ed001's Note - oh go away, you are not right, you are being a tedious odious bell. Now run along and grow up. We have got nothing like your ludicrous assertions you are being a prick and it is boring and pathetic.}

12.) 15 Dec 2015 13:26:42
My point is you said we don't really have anyone similar in the squad. Similar. We have just got to the point that both Kent and gray are similar and Kent possesses even more than gray.

So I called you on it because you weren't right.

{Ed001's Note - oh go away, you are not right, you are being a tedious odious bell. Now run along and grow up. We have got nothing like your ludicrous assertions you are being a prick and it is boring and pathetic.}

13.) 15 Dec 2015 14:25:41
Cant you explain why I am. not right without insulting me? Is that what's happening to this website, push abit and you get abused?

{Ed001's Note - I already have multiple times but you just keep saying I am wrong, so what is the point? As for being abused, you are far from being abused.}

14.) 15 Dec 2015 16:13:24
Kent ustally plays on the right and cuts in as he is left footed. But he's pretty handy with his right foot too.

15.) 15 Dec 2015 22:24:42
Wow essex he's right footed pal! Does anyone know anything.

16.) 15 Dec 2015 23:29:21
If he's right footed why does he take corners with his left foot?!

17.) 16 Dec 2015 10:03:19
Well this escalated quickly!



30 Oct 2015 06:44:57
Eds, any news on Hendo, lad who I work with lives near him in Formby, and says that he told him he will be doing full training sessions again from next week? That would means he should be back in a couple of weeks say wouldn't it?


{Ed001's Note - 3 weeks I think, he is due back.}

1.) 30 Oct 2015 08:46:43
City away.

2.) 30 Oct 2015 10:51:52
Due back 21 November.



20 Jun 2015 06:28:01
Guy from work, who has season tickets at City, says somebody at the club has told him they will up their offer once more only and that they will go to £45m that's it. I think LFC should grab it and jump for joy that the toe rag has gone. Granted the 20% fee to QPR is a bitter pill, but we always knew that would happen. Hopefully they would then invest in some pace on the wing and a proven goal scorer.


1.) 20 Jun 2015 09:48:40
I do love how a random season ticket holder is going to get the inside scoop from a board member on transfer dealings.
It's all a ploy by the club, if and when a bid is accepted. They can turn round and say how much they wanted him by not giving up

2.) 20 Jun 2015 10:03:12
We're talking Brendan Rodgers here - what good is having money to spend with him in charge - look at his record, not only in transfer success, but as a complete package - he hasn't even got a decent managerial CV.

3.) 20 Jun 2015 10:33:43
You do understand Brendan Rodgers isn't in charge of transfers?

4.) 20 Jun 2015 10:50:56
I'm sure Ed1 said a while ago something along the lines that transfer responsibilities were taken away from BR because he had "made a mess of it".

{Ed001's Note - as in taken away from his sole control and the committee was set up. Rodgers still has veto rights on transfers.}

5.) 20 Jun 2015 13:05:31
I'd be surprised if we didn't accept 45m. It would be the 13th biggest transfer fee of all time. Daylight robbery.



07 Jun 2015 11:05:31
Do we have any interest in Pedro ?
Quality player in my opinion, wealth of experience at the top level, still relatively young, available, and I imagine he could be bought for £15-20 M ?
Would appreciate any feedback you can offer.


{Ed002's Note - No. Pedro was offered to a couple of clubs, one as part of a convoluted part exchange but no deal could be struck. Barcelona will offer him a new contract as they look for stability now and plan for some future changes.}

1.) 07 Jun 2015 12:53:01
Pedro signed a new 4 year contract a couple of days ago.




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10 Oct 2016 06:32:37
What is the injury Ojo has Eds, and would you see him and Grujic starring in an EFL Cup run? Provided both are fit?


{Ed001's Note - he has a back problem, I would expect it to be next season before Ojo can be back to his best. Back problems are very difficult, especially at such a young age, as it is probably down to growth spurts so nothing can actually be done but wait for his body to grow into itself, so to speak.}

1.) 10 Oct 2016 07:14:55
Must be frustrating for him to have to put things on hold at such a young age, when he has so much talent.

2.) 10 Oct 2016 07:27:13
Gutted for him, looking really forward to seeing more of this lad.

3.) 10 Oct 2016 10:42:31
I suspect Verheijen has already blamed Klopp for Ojo's back problems too?



01 Aug 2016 06:26:49
Eds 001, what is the situation with Amavi? How much do Villa want for him, and how much do Liverpool value him at? More to the point, how much does Klopp want him? If money was not an issue, who would you choose for our LB to challenge Moreno, who is clearly going nowhere? Personally, I would go for Hector, who I believe will be top notch, and who has a long international career ahead of him too.


{Ed001's Note - Villa want to keep him and are not open to talks with us, as we messed them about. I have no idea, what I have seen of Hector has not shown him to be anything special. We have very few options left to us now.}

1.) 01 Aug 2016 06:41:51
With that said ed are we still trying to talk to Villa then or looking elsewere? To me its looking like we will stick with what we have got, especially as Milner has been asked to fill in at full back.

{Ed001's Note - looking elsewhere. Milner is playing there because it is beginning to look like we will fail to sign one, let alone the two we actually really need.}

2.) 01 Aug 2016 06:58:31
ed, is there any one person to point the finger at for the chilwell deal falling through?

{Ed001's Note - no, it is more than one person at fault for our recruitment issues. It needs an overhaul. Hopefully it will be done when Ayre moves on, as it needs a fresh view to see what needs to be done.}

3.) 01 Aug 2016 07:04:44
sorry that was a poorly phrased leading question lol I guess what I'm wondering aloud about is, what has the logic been behind the transfer dealings to secure us a LB? If we believe Klopp, he sounds happy with everyone we have brought in. Has the transfer team let Klopp down on this occasion?

4.) 01 Aug 2016 07:05:34
I wish I could delete posts that I've already sent through lol. thanks for the earlier reply ed :)

{Ed001's Note - no worries.}

5.) 01 Aug 2016 07:54:31
Cheers for reply ed. Interesting you say the 2 we need. Do you think both LB and RB need replacing mate? Surely we will get at least a LB over the line.

{Ed001's Note - well yes, but I meant two left backs, as we would otherwise have Moreno or Milner as the back up.}

6.) 01 Aug 2016 09:16:01
There's talk of Villa being interested in Luis Alberto. Why doesn't the club look into swapping Amavi for him?

7.) 01 Aug 2016 10:11:46
Problem is if Villa don't want to sell Amavi and we do want to sell LA then Villa hold all the aces on that one and don't have to do a swap. Also interested in doesn't sound the same as need, so again they hold control on this one. But at least we didn't spend 11m on a player we really needed so a success there.

8.) 01 Aug 2016 11:53:41
Failing to sign any left-back is a depressing and frightening prospect at the same time. I would even be happy with a panic-buy to bring in Jetro Willems. He can't be worse than Moreno. Well, he could be, but it'd be worth a shot.

9.) 01 Aug 2016 12:33:59
Last I heard QPR and Wolves want Alberto, Sevilla offered 2mil for him which got point blank refused, Liverpool want 6mil.

10.) 01 Aug 2016 12:40:35
I'd rather we kept Flanno and played him and Klavan there than panic buy.

11.) 01 Aug 2016 13:53:37
Is this the right place to reopen the debate about our fetish for buying un-needed midfid players rather than filling a position where we really really are weak? The decision makers around the club need a proper wake up call!

12.) 01 Aug 2016 13:00:22
Failing to sign a LB is rank incompetence as there are many out there to choose from.

13.) 01 Aug 2016 13:07:42
Sorry Jurgen Meister but that is stupid and dangerous.

The club can ill afford to completely spunk away another x million on a player/ s that is no better or slightly better than what we already have.

Whilst I don't think we have particularly prioritised this summer very well I still don't think that justifies desperation purchases for the sake of it.

14.) 01 Aug 2016 17:19:34
Whoever it is that is responsible for our recruitment embarrassments, are they even being held accountable for their actions? Do FSG not step in and give them a talking to for acting unprofessional?

How can they continue the same negotiating tactics when it always gets the club into trouble, year after year? Every transfer window it is the same old story, we are set to sign a player, it goes quiet, and then the deal is off because it turns out that Liverpool messed around the selling club and got told to go away. Same old bloody story.

I can't believe it still hasn't been rectified. These types of situations are so avoidable yet we always let them happen.

15.) 01 Aug 2016 17:22:03

Panic buying is the worst thing we can do. That's all we've done for the last [insert number here] seasons. That's why we have a bloated squad and spend most of preseason trying to offload players to other clubs, either by sale or loan.

You also have to consider the financial costs of not just the price purchase of the player, but wages, agents and the rest of the jazz that comes with buying players. This isn't football manager.

Let's put things into perspective. We all know we need a better player at left-back, but let's cut this kid Moreno a bit of slack. He's a young guy, has a lot of good attributes for a modern fullback and from what I can gather, has a good attitude and respect for the club. I don't know about you, but I wonder how the lad has felt this preseason? Every single social media site has been tearing him to bits - not exactly a confidence booster when the only support you do have has turned against you as well.

16.) 01 Aug 2016 19:16:08
JH, Moreno is a young player who hasn`t learned a single thing since his debut at Sevilla. In fact, BR was warned about the very qualies or lack thereof, that he is showing us now for two years and still he has done nothing to change this. Don`t believe me? Vs Chelsea in LA, he went for a ball with Willian that every man and his dog knew he could never win and what happened? He dives in, doesn`t get the ball (breaking rumour, I know) and takes Willian out. In the PL, that is a yellow card. He has cost us more goals than I care to remember hence, he deserves every bit of grief he gets. Don`t talk to us like we are being unfair to him because there is NO witch hunt against him. An awful player who loves and respects the club is STILL an awful player. That is a verifiable fact. He is a liability and needs to get gone, end of.



29 Jul 2016 07:43:25
Happy Birthday Ed 001, yourself and the firey lady are the stars of this website, keep up the good work, and enjoy your day.


{Ed001's Note - firey lady? That is the best description of Ed002 I have seen in a long long time! Thank you mate.}

1.) 29 Jul 2016 08:34:06
Now that's banter right there ha ha, happy birthday Ed001 all the best.

{Ed001's Note - thank you Bazzaa, just waiting to see Ed002 burn shughes for this!}



26 May 2016 13:41:27
Barca not willing to pay anything remotely close to £50m for Coutinho. He won't be going there.




22 May 2016 08:49:30
Ed 001, who do you see as most likely to be Klopps first summer signing? Might it be Karius, and if so, do you believe he will outshine the hapless Mignolet?


{Ed001's Note - I would say it would be Matip or Grujic.....

Seriously Karius looks likely to be first incoming, and I only hope he is a step up on Migs, because Migs is simply not good enough in the short or long term. I would not even want him as back up personally.}

1.) 22 May 2016 09:25:52
Ed is karius going to be #1 then? I got the impression that we were buying someone to push Migs?

{Ed001's Note - sorry did I say anything even close to that being the case? Not sure why you are asking that, it holds no relevance to what I said?}

2.) 22 May 2016 09:35:47
1- I never said you said anything

2- I didn't say it did have any relevance

Just asking your opinion on if you think he is replacing migs or challenging him.

{Ed001's Note - but you answered your own question. This has been answered already, sadly Klopp wants a goalkeeper to compete with Mignolet, not just a straight out replacement. I don't understand what he sees in Migs, nice lad but hopelessly bad keeper.}

3.) 22 May 2016 09:41:31
Fair enough, I thought that was the case but hoped something had changed.

{Ed001's Note - I wish.}

4.) 22 May 2016 10:06:01
Let's be honest though, having backup like Bogdan is not going to push Mignolet to improve, irrespective of how bad Mignolet is.

I haven't and sure many others never heard of or even seen Karius play before rumours starting popping up. Good thing is that he has lived in England so settling into new surrounding will not be an issue for him.

5.) 22 May 2016 10:18:03
Hi ed! Just curious as regards to Mignolet, would you let him go and make Ward no2 and a starter in the cups, or would you loan Ward for a year to get first team football and have him replace Mignolet next year. Personally, I prefer the latter as it would allow Ward to get a bit more experience than I see him getting if he stays.

{Ed001's Note - if a good loan is possible, I would get him out on loan again.}

6.) 22 May 2016 11:08:44
Cheers Ed. Hopefully there'll be no more loans with no regards for style of team or if it will actually be beneficial for the player.

{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed.}

7.) 22 May 2016 11:13:04
I would keep migs as an eventual back up to karius who hopefully displaces mignolet (not overly confident) and send ward on a season long loan, but as ed01 says it has to make sense and be a good one for the player. Can't wait to see the back of bogdan.

8.) 22 May 2016 18:38:21
Ed, I do think that Karius was brought in to eventually take Mingo's place as someone posted that at BVB, Klopp had a knack for gradually replacing players he no longer wanted. Also, I don't believe that a highly rated GK whose team had EL football, guaranteed first team football each week and not far from the German team setup, would give all that up to come over to a team with no European football to be a back up to a GK as poor as Mingo. I don't believe that for one second. Karius will be first choice sooner rather than later, IMO.




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23 Nov 2016 19:43:10
We could buy him and loan him back for a season.
He is no better than we already have.




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23 Nov 2016 19:40:48
Decent bit of banter that T.
Appreciate your opinion, and what Klopp decides to do, is sound as a pound with me.




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12 Jul 2016 21:35:52
Would be made up if we signed Hector. Great defender, and seemed pretty good getting forward for Germany, delivering some excellent crosses.




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28 Jun 2016 08:07:13
Hector is excellent defensively, and not too bad from an attacking sense.
Spend on him, and I'm confident we will do well this season.





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16 Nov 2016 21:32:52
Every Utd player ever, but in particular, G Neville and Cristiano Ronaldo, followed by Giggs, Scholes, P Neville, Ferdinand, etc.




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17 Oct 2016 22:17:31
Worst performance this season. Team were nervous and were outplayed for the first 50 mins, then started to show a little more. Thought Coutinho worked hard, but Firmino had a shocker, and Sturridge looked lazy, although had zero service to be fair. Karius is currently no better than Migs!




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12 Oct 2016 23:26:20
Top player, and a top man.




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04 Oct 2016 17:55:47
You are all obviously too young to remember beating the blues twice at Wembley in the cup finals. They where truly historic days, Istanbul was also incredible.




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22 Sep 2016 18:13:34
Ashish, best advice is don't travel back to Manchester, its full of City and united, get into town after the game, and get right on it kid in the bier keller!