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03 Aug 2019 05:56:48
Any news on where Kent is most likely to move? Any advanced talks taking place?


1.) 03 Aug 2019 18:22:30
Leeds?


2.) 03 Aug 2019 20:03:27
Would be a good signing for them.


3.) 04 Aug 2019 11:56:30
I can’t see a move to be honest Har. From what I can tell it’s fairly stuck where it is. If there was a move away that would leave London and Surrey with a coastline which would be fun but I think East Sussex would be a bit exposed so it’s a non starter. There could be a loan to France but it take a while to get there.


4.) 03 Aug 2019 14:16:42
Last i heard was no club could afford him (they don't think he is worth it) and only want loan deals. Klopp Said no loans but when no bids come in we'll let him go on loan with an option/ obligation to buy or something.


5.) 04 Aug 2019 20:37:18
Not even close to an accurate prediction. In your defence Lerchy that’s how the vast majority of confident calls go on this site.


6.) 04 Aug 2019 22:41:05
The PFA Scotland Young Player of the Year? No interest!? Shockin.
He'll prob be sold for 6mil on Wednesday, no biggy. I'm actually way more curious to see if there'll be any late surprise incomings. I expect nothing, but they've surprised us before.


 

 

04 Jul 2019 11:17:19
Ed a quick question if you have any info.

I remember laxalt being linked in the past but I'm sure you mentioned us giving up on any interest. With Milan now poised to sign Theo Hernandez would they possibly look to offer laxalt around at a decent price? Would it be a possibility we may look again at him if readily available or is it non runner?

{Ed002's Note - It is a good question. Laxalt would be happy to stay at Milan and it is Ricardo Rodriguez who was blocking his place in the first team for much of last season who is being offered around. However, with Marco Giampaolo as the new coach and Theo Hernandez joining it will still limit opportunities - although with serious financial issues they will be thinking about keeping him to cover the LB, LM and LW positions - which he is capable of doing. Interest remains from Atalanta and Newcastle enquired - seeing him as a left sided option to Kenedy. For me he would be ideal cover for LB, LM and LW at Liverpool but there has seemingly been no recent interest from the club although he is one of those players - like Valentino Lazaroon the right, who is comfortable in several positions.}


1.) 04 Jul 2019 12:16:41
Thanks for that answer, very insightful overview in fairness. It's his versatility indeed is what would have made him a sensible option too I think. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


 

 

 

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It's impossible to compare different Football Eras

21 Jan 2020 16:36:13
{Ed's Note - Har_red92 has posted a new article entitled, It's impossible to compare different Football Eras


1.) 21 Jan 2020 20:22:23
Great read, can't argue with a thing.


 

 

21 Jan 2020 01:34:43
I remember posting back when we were heading into winter with a 7 or 8 point lead and we were all rightly nervous and cautious but I was predicting that I thought we might double that lead by Xmas as it was at a time where city faced 6 fixtures mostly against bigger sides while our 6 fixtures were favourable. It turned out accurate and I'm now feeling similar thoughts. City next 6 games they have 4 away, they play spurs Leicester arsenal and United along with sheff Utd away and even Chelsea before they play us.

In that period we play west ham twice, wolves, Bournemouth, Watford, Southampton, Norwich and I think palace. I could see it very possible that we pull so far ahead that the league may be won before March is out, . Of course city can win every game but I can honestly see them dropping more points than we will over next 6 or 7 games. Cities easiest run of fixtures is their last 6 which are all against the weakest teams while we are just now facing into our best run of opponents while city face their toughest run. This could genuinely be over by the 30 game mark and I'm saying this with realism and not just arrogance. Pep will at some point look to move all his importance to the champions league as he knows it's too large a task to catch us, . If we take 6 points over the next week we'll be sitting on 70 points with 14 games left, city can only get to 93points with 100% record from 15 games, I can only see them reaching 80-85 points so we could realistically pass that mark with 7 or 8 games to spare considering the level of opponents we face compared to city over next 7 or 8 gameweeks.

I'm going to predict that we seal the title in the Merseyside derby.


1.) 21 Jan 2020 04:54:18
Not sure why this is even debatable any more. I lived through the hay days of the 70's and 80's so have been overly cautious predicting a title. But, in the current climate you'd be mad not to be at least 90% confident of winning the league this year. We're not steam rolling teams, but getting the job done and those beneath us are dropping points with regularity.
It wouldn't overly bother me if we didn't go deep in the champions league but set some severe records in the league this season. Let's be honest, if at the start of the season anyone predicted we could win the league with half a dozen games left to play and have a shot at beating City's 100 pt total and potentially matching Arsenal's invincibles, you'd have laughed.


2.) 21 Jan 2020 07:21:30
I just want the league, nothing else matters. If we have games to spare, I’d love to see some younger lads get more mins in. Set us up better for next season.


3.) 21 Jan 2020 08:39:03
I’m agreeing with Burkey on this. We are in a position that no top flight team has ever been in or could ever be again. Let’s make the most of it and smash all records. People still revere Arsenal’s invincibles and rightly so. If we could do that with 112pts we’d be talked about and revered for generations to come.


4.) 21 Jan 2020 08:57:48
I’m not disagreeing with Har but in the matches we have in that period we are playing 3 teams (Wolves, Norwich and Palace) who took points off City. No “easy” games but of course there are “easier” games you are expected to have more chance to win.


5.) 21 Jan 2020 12:45:07
If the records come then that is a bonus, but never ever EVER should achieving records to make Arsenal and United fans jealous come before winning the Champions League. That’s what we’re famous for, it’s the pinnacle of the sport (maybe even the pinnacle of sport as a whole), the top level of competition, the ultimate sign of glory and prestige. We have a very good chance to win both trophies this year, we’re by far the best team in the world right now, you’d have to be bonkers to accept anything other than at least making it to the semi finals even if that means we throw away the unbeaten league record.


6.) 22 Jan 2020 04:21:55
I don't, was only really giving my personal prediction and of course it's merely based on guessing.

I'm with you Anonymous woolback on the importance of CL and disagree with anyone who places records over major titles. Especially this year as we're holders and to go and win it 2 seasons back to back would be arguably our greatest achievement. We will win the league im very very confident of that but to follow that up with another CL win would really assert our dominance. It's not often you get a chance to retain the biggest club honour so we should have 100% focus and importance in grabbing our chance.

Last year was the same suggestions being thrown about with many fans actually calling for us to play weaker lineups and only focus on the league. That would have left us without any silverware and an empty heartbreaking season which likely wouldn't have seen us kick on like we've done. Klopp would have been facing into this season still without any silverware, Henderson still not tasted the captain walk to the podium and we would not be enjoying the admiration and respected as the best in the world if we had have got knocked out in QF and not the league either.

There would be no 6th star, no super cup, no world club cup, no top seed ranking for group stage and no chance to win it back to back or reach 3 consecutive finals which is unlikely to happen again too soon. No way can taking arsenals invincible record or city's 100 point record be more rewarding than a 7th European cup, especially at a time where we're genuinely strongly fancied and not just taking a punt as the underdog. What happens if we lost care and exited Europe then lost 1 game and finished on 99 points?

Arsenals so called invincibles drew 13 games that season and won 25. Yes of course that's impressive to not be beaten but to draw 13 games, means they were failing to win once every 3 games.

I don't think that record should be thought of as greater than achieving 30 wins 7 draws with 1 loss and 97 points. Those 2 city seasons were also superior and Chelsea getting 95 points in a season where they only conceded 15 goals and along with us this season I'd place these teams 5 seasons as all more impressive and difficult to achieve than what arsenal did. Even if we lose which is very realistic you'd want to have a narrow mind to think that means we can't be regarded as the best team. People rave about United 99 but they only won 22 games all season while we will likely win our 22nd game in January. They lost more games that season than we have in probably last 3 seasons combined and there tally of 79 points would only ever have won 2 out of the 27 seasons.

That United team are remembered because they won the European cup and the fa cup also yet we have fans who openly show lack of care to both competitions . We're going so strong in the league That we have no reason to not be able to give focus to other major honours which don't even offer an issue in distraction or fatigue that many dramatically think is an issue that could be troublesome.


 

 

18 Dec 2019 15:01:31
@Hhanif005,

regarding the point that we are buying the title and this will hamper youngsters coming through. We didn't sign any senior players last summer and the path got easier for young lads to get a chance. Brewster is being backed to prove himself and has yet to show he deserves to be trusted yet, minamino is a 7 million player who doesn't even play in Brewsters role so hardly just splashing out on his replacement.

You say Trent was the last to get his chance and only kept his spot because he played magnificent! . That's this whole point, Trent played well every time we needed him so deserved to play, Brewster has been given chances but yet to deserve to play ahead of others, solanke was given chances but didn't deserve to play anymore.

Hoever, Jones, Elliot are all being given their chance but are yet to prove they are better than other options. It's up to the players to prove their quality to deserve the right to play more regularly. Klopp has given plenty of kids the chance since Trent but none have been as good as him which has you thinking for some reason that Trent was the only guy given time. Woodburn, ojo, ibe, ejaria, solanke, chirivella, Stewart all played in as many games as it took for Trent and Gomez to show their quality was good enough. No one has the automatic right to be given minutes if not performing in training or on the field.

How can you say Duncan made the right move when he has yet to make any progress since leaving? He's having less joy in youth level than he had with us and yet to given any first team action for a team much weaker than us. This season he would realistically have already played 3 or 4 games for our first team against the likes of arsenal, games at a packed Anfield, games live on sky sports, chance to travel to compete in CWC and it would have been up to him to take his chance that he would have been given if he's actually even deserving of it.

We give the kids a chance and it's up to them to take it, not to klopp. If Brewster doesn't succeed at Liverpool no one can say he never got the chance, he's played poor in each of his performances so far so will have to be patient to earn klopp's trust and origi has deserved to take his potential playing time. Neco Williams has great debut and rewarded with chances to play backup RB in first team match squad.

We're not stopping these youngsters from any future. If they're good enough to play for LFC and can prove it then they will make it, if they're not then why would we play them and weaken our team.

I can't think of any young players really who never got given a sniff under klopps 4 years in charge and has since proven that he was ever good enough to play more minutes for this team? I can't think of one player who's progress the club has blocked without that player actually himself being responsible for his own success or failings. Grujic and Wilson are both currently still being given time and potential to make it at a high level but we've not let any youngsters leave under klopp who've proved him or the club wrong.

If youngsters want to leave for more chances then fair dues to them but it's nonesense that they or others can then say that we didn't give them a chance or that we simply buy our way to success when it's very far from true. Jordan ibe got the same chance that sterling got. 1 took it, one didn't. Andre wisdom got the last same chance that Trent got, 1 took it, one didn't. Martin Kelly got the same chance that Joe Gomez got, 1 took it, 1 didn't. Solanke was given the same chance as Origi was given a few years back.

At United rashford was given the same opportunity as all their other young forwards who have yet to make it at a high level. Harry Kane took his chance at spurs. Abraham and mount now taking theirs at Chelsea. If you want to make it at a top club you need to perform and take your chance. You can't blame the club or their ambition as a reason for not making it.

If you're good enough you'll make it, if not the club will look elsewhere or else inevitably start getting weaker like arsenal who've wasted far too much time on youngsters who weren't performing.

We're not a club buying our way to the top and that's so obvious to clearly see.


1.) 18 Dec 2019 15:17:08
When you say “you” who are you taking about. ?


2.) 18 Dec 2019 15:28:09
Spent about 40p last summer. Still top.


3.) 18 Dec 2019 21:47:58
Har_red,

Mate I agree with your post that our club and Klopp do not impede youngsters to harm their careers. My post simply meant that for a young player to succeed at Liverpool they will have to be truly exceptional and lucky. Even a player of Brewster's caliber is finding it difficult to find a space in the match day squad on a regular basis. So for a player like Duncan who did not fancy a scrap to break through into an elite side, it was better for him to move on (to a challenge that meets his lower ambitions) .

My post did not mean any less or any more than that. I agree with what you have said in your post about the club being fair. I do not condone young players leaving Liverpool. In fact I love to see them have the belief in themselves to take up the challenge. I'm however realistic about the need to balance the championship winning streak with giving youth a chance so I firmly believe that we will keep buying excellent prospects (like Mane and Salah etc) in future rather than having a team full of academy products just because the pressures of the game do not allow a lot of experimentation (besides in the League Cup) .

With regards to the taunt of "buying the league", I don't want to get into it because I don't know if there is an objective definition of buying the league (in terms of money spent) . We have spent a lot of money in the recent years. And yes our net spent is much lower than City. But Leicester spent much less than us to win the league. So there is no objective definition to buying the league. I just think that our owners will do whatever is necessary to win the trophies (e. g. buying Van Dijk and Alisson) so I'm not interested in the labels and I am enthralled by our team, our owners and our manager/ staff.


4.) 19 Dec 2019 11:14:28
Both make valid points, the question is then how many young players realistically stand a chance to play with Virgil or Allison in the team? As an academy player looking at our 1st there aren't as many opportunities up for grabs. I read somewhere that Brew isn't good enough, is he not good enough as compared to our 40mil plus signing or he just not good enough? I am only asking to get a clear view of the bases of your conclusion and not opposing it.
Kids (in fact athlete in general) need more than the occasional appearance to show their worth and frankly we just not giving our kids that. You rate Harvey as not good enough, we talking about a 16 year old who will most likely play the day a Mo or Sadio need a break.

How many team's would really have had the stomach to agree the range of fees we have had recently and still not see it fit to accept the tag "buying success", You don't smash the record twice for no reason.

Yes we in a much better position thanks to money spent but reality is that majority of our young guns will probably never get to shoot for Liverpool FC.


 

 

15 Dec 2019 06:43:15
I must say what a fantastic 2 years weeks for us. We've continued to win every league game, Bournemouth, Everton, Watford. City dropped points to Newcastle and United, Leicester dropped points to Norwich.

We topped our group in CL, salah back in the goals, mane still on fire. Shaqiri, Keita, origi this season rarely used have been incorporated and scored 5 goals between them in 10 days. Henderson and Gomez improving their early season shaky form, 3 consecutive clean sheets. Lovren looking confident, allison back and strong. Oxlade Chamberlain being crucial when needed Salah, mane, Trent, robertson, gini, Henderson all afforded a matchday rest from starting 11. Crucial early season performers like fabinho and matip getting injured not disrupting us. Klopp and Milner signing new contracts, minimoto signing looking likely at bargain price, 4 of our players making top 7 in ballon d'or with only trio of Messi, Ronaldo and mbappe alongside that top 7.

10 points clear of 2nd place Leicester, 17 points clear of city who's game in hand away to arsenal. City vs Leicester next week means 1 if not both drop more points. Then we face Leicester with chance to wipe them out of competition before new year.

17 played, 49 from possible 51 points, unbeaten, 100% anfield record. League cup quarter final, club world cup, fa cup, champions league knockout stages all still to be competed. No players publicly showing unhappiness or desire to leave.

Must surely be considered the strongest setup that liverpool fc have sat in for decades and very realistic to predict that this strenght can be sustained for upcoming years. Young squad, players with great mentality, a manager made for the club, backroom staff and owners all working together and hugely productive. Now capable of attracting the elite talent and ability of spending big amounts if needed. Teenagers like Curtis Jones, Hoever, VDB, Williams, Elliot, Brewster getting first team starts in cup and earning klopps praise. Players like Harry Wilson, grujic, ejaria doing well on loan and gaining value either for future use or sell on profits.

What a time for us fans to saviour with joy and pride after 30 or so years with little consistency and very brief spells of excitement . Couldn't be happier 😊.

{Ed047's Note - Har you’ve been fantastic mate, it’s been a pleasure to watch you guys play.


1.) 15 Dec 2019 09:04:05
Har enough of the doom and gloom mate let’s hear some positives 😉.


2.) 15 Dec 2019 09:07:59
Very good post Har. You are precise on all points. We are looking in good shape. Hopefully the success on the pitch can translate continued financial improvements off the pitch as well but this is the most solid team and squad I have seen since the 80's / 90's. Klopp signing his extension really is out of this world news. Based on what he has do e to tur the club around in his tenure I would argue he is the best in the world at this time (my biased view of course and many may disagree if they felt otherwise) ;-)


3.) 15 Dec 2019 17:24:55
I know it's not a major trophy but we also have the super cup in the bag.


 

 

20 Nov 2019 01:55:26
Just for a bit of fun.

From squad number 1-20 the Liverpool players have worn in the PL era try to pick the best player for each number while considering that some players wore more than 1 number and try to work out fitting in the 20 best players possible. Here's mine.

1. Allison
2. Arbeloa
3. Fabinho
4. VVD
5. Gini.
6. Aurelio
7. Suarez
8.Gerrard
9. Torres
10. Owen
11. Fowler
12. Hyypia
13. Murphy
14. Alonso
15. Berger
16. Hamann
17. Macmanaman
18. Kuyt
19. Mane
20. Mascherano.

I'd expect many variations in other fans favourite picks for a few numbers.


1.) 20 Nov 2019 09:16:07
1. Karius
2. Kromkamp
3. Koncheskey
4. Aquilani
5. Baros
6. Hutchinson
7. Keane
8. Leonardson
9. El hadj Diouf
10. Voronin
11. Pongolle
12. Pellegrini
13. David James
14. Jovanovic
15. Salic Diao
16. Dundee
17. Guthrie
18. Moreno
19. Caulker
20. Le Tallec.


2.) 20 Nov 2019 10:21:25
Good pick Ibiza Red . very good memory some of these players done nothing to be remembered .


3.) 20 Nov 2019 13:35:05
How do you find out old squad numbers? I refuse to believe Ibiza Red remembered all of those squad numbers, unless he's Dustin Hoffman.


4.) 20 Nov 2019 16:27:19
Bit Harsh on Baros i think.


5.) 20 Nov 2019 17:45:48
Some crackers there Ibiza Red.


6.) 20 Nov 2019 17:55:40
Pongolle appearing at no. 11 reminds me: Are we going to have to number the players we take to the CWC 1-23 again, or do they not bother anymore?

Mine:

1. Alisson
2. Jones
3. Fabinho
4. van Dijk
5. Agger
6. Aurelio
7. Suarez
8. Gerrard
9. Fowler
10. Barnes
11. Salah
12. Hyypia
13. Alisson (you didn't tell me I can't have him twice. Two Alissons is better than one)
14. Alonso
15. Berger
16. Hamann
17. McManaman
18. Kuyt
19. Mane
20. Mascherano

Only being able to pick two out of Bobby, Salah and Fowler is a PITA.


7.) 20 Nov 2019 18:35:12
Rugby Parker - google. Remember all the players but not the numbers. A few may have been harsh. But there wasn’t too many poor players in the number 5 shirt. 7 Keane was a good player but such a let down at anfield and most the others speak for themselves.


8.) 20 Nov 2019 19:06:53
Nice alternate list Ibiza haha. I'd have assaidi or mark Gonzalez as worse 11s than pongolle though.


9.) 20 Nov 2019 19:10:06
1. Carragher
2. Carragher
3. Carragher
4. Carragher
5. Carragher
6. Carragher
7. Carragher
8. Carragher
9. Carragher
10. Carragher
11. Carragher
Etc etc.


10.) 20 Nov 2019 19:43:36
Haha love it g1dgo!


11.) 21 Nov 2019 08:41:51
Pongolle doesn’t deserve to be on that list, neither does Baros, although he could trap a ball further than most people could kick it. Westerveld at 1 for me.


12.) 21 Nov 2019 14:36:51
What about Nunez?


 

 

 

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21 Jan 2020 04:58:12
I don't know about the loner issue but allison and firmino also aren't speaking English so as much as it is frustrating I'm not going to use that as a reason to write him off. Tevez spent years not speaking English, took aguero ages too but if he can do his talking on the field we won't care, . I just want to see him have a spell where he's fit and playing regularly before I give up on him because i know there's a great midfielder in there. I'm hoping it can fall into place for him, remember OX spent 5 years like this at arsenal before finding his spark. Klopp will I'm sure know exactly what direction keitas career is heading and I guess in the summer we might find out if we have belief or not in him to succeed.


 

 

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20 Jan 2020 23:55:34
I'm still optimistic with keita, I'd feel different if he's been playing poor for last 18 months but it's just constant injury setbacks is hurting him and his form has been impressive when you consider he's always been playing without any rhythm as yet. His previous injury history was never an issue so I think it's still likely he can overcome and play consistently. Henderson was suffering like keita with niggles for about 2 years at similar age and OX too. The talent is there and he's shown he has it. Last summer his country ruined his rehab and he never got the chance to recover and get up to speed in pre season. He deserves more time as he's still young and only injury has stopped him flourishing.

{Ed025's Note - its not only the injuries though is it har?, not learned the language and a bit of a loner as well...does he really deserve more time?..


 

 

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20 Jan 2020 23:41:26
I don't think there's any reason we'd buy big this window when we are cruising showing no weak areas. Minamino was exactly what we desired and I'm sure any potential transfer talk we debate is more in view of summer moves. I'd love Werner to add more real quality in attack, possibly a lovren replacement and a left sided player capable of covering robbo while a bonus being a versatile type who could also operate at left CB or one that can play higher up in midfield like Milner has. We don't need more than 3 or 4 squad additions unless we lose big players. Lovren, Shaqiri, lallana realistic squad departures, minamino already added is great business.


 

 

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20 Jan 2020 23:30:12
He's got 25 goals already this season and has always been prolific, hard working and has that direct pace that suits our frontline, if he is possible to sign for the fee being mentioned he represents great potential, he's still young and fits the klopp mould of transfer. With AFCON next season and the expectation to compete for every honour he would be great strengthening of our attack. Salah, mane and bobby will be hitting 30 within next 2 seasons so why not challenge Werner to come in and earn his spot.


 

 

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Haha very true.


 

 

 

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22 Jan 2020 04:19:18
Certainly in the premier league it's crucial. Every great team had a player bossing that role. Even after Keane and viera, Chelsea had success with makelele there, city didn't start to dominate until fernandinho was bought into that role. Kante was crucial to Leicester and Chelsea title wins. Just look at the teams struggling, spurs arsenal and United don't have that quality of player while Fabinho for us and ndidi for Leicester are big reasons we are having great joy. You see city aren't as strong without fernandinho in his strongest role.

The likes of bayern, psg or juve have not needed that player to dominate their less competitive leagues and I think that is a big reason we've seen them struggle in Europe as their midfield imbalance will be found out by the better sides. The likes of verrati, pjanic and thiago often fulfil their respective teams role as the deepest sitting midfielder but I would consider each of them as more luxury players who would need cover behind them to play best to their ability.

Look at how crucial even an unsung player like Lucas leiva has been in helping Lazio play currently on unbelievable form. Madrid using casemeiro or khedira to win CL titles while Barcelona always needed busquets in their period of success.
In the period since we lost mascherano and Alonso up until fabinhos arrival we spent nearly every season vulnerable in defending goals as Gerrard, Henderson, emre can weren't dominant enough to play that role similar to how winks for spurs, Fred or matic for United and every arsenal CM that has featured in their decade of struggle.


 

 

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22 Jan 2020 04:50:20
This undefeated record is being given far too much attention. Arsenal drew 13 of their 38 games which shouldn't be regarded as superior to a side who might lose once and draw maybe 3 or 4. It's clear that it's far more impressive to achieve what city did twice, Chelsea once or twice, us once and on course to do again.

Since when is a team regarded as one of the greats when they failed to beat their opponent on 13 occasions? It's much harder to win 90% of games and slip up once than to simply avoid defeat while only capable of winning matches 66% of your season.

Would we only have been respected as superior to that arsenal side if we drew 1-1 at the etihad last season for people to care so much about that record being achieved this season.


 

 

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22 Jan 2020 04:21:55
I don't, was only really giving my personal prediction and of course it's merely based on guessing.

I'm with you Anonymous woolback on the importance of CL and disagree with anyone who places records over major titles. Especially this year as we're holders and to go and win it 2 seasons back to back would be arguably our greatest achievement. We will win the league im very very confident of that but to follow that up with another CL win would really assert our dominance. It's not often you get a chance to retain the biggest club honour so we should have 100% focus and importance in grabbing our chance.

Last year was the same suggestions being thrown about with many fans actually calling for us to play weaker lineups and only focus on the league. That would have left us without any silverware and an empty heartbreaking season which likely wouldn't have seen us kick on like we've done. Klopp would have been facing into this season still without any silverware, Henderson still not tasted the captain walk to the podium and we would not be enjoying the admiration and respected as the best in the world if we had have got knocked out in QF and not the league either.

There would be no 6th star, no super cup, no world club cup, no top seed ranking for group stage and no chance to win it back to back or reach 3 consecutive finals which is unlikely to happen again too soon. No way can taking arsenals invincible record or city's 100 point record be more rewarding than a 7th European cup, especially at a time where we're genuinely strongly fancied and not just taking a punt as the underdog. What happens if we lost care and exited Europe then lost 1 game and finished on 99 points?

Arsenals so called invincibles drew 13 games that season and won 25. Yes of course that's impressive to not be beaten but to draw 13 games, means they were failing to win once every 3 games.

I don't think that record should be thought of as greater than achieving 30 wins 7 draws with 1 loss and 97 points. Those 2 city seasons were also superior and Chelsea getting 95 points in a season where they only conceded 15 goals and along with us this season I'd place these teams 5 seasons as all more impressive and difficult to achieve than what arsenal did. Even if we lose which is very realistic you'd want to have a narrow mind to think that means we can't be regarded as the best team. People rave about United 99 but they only won 22 games all season while we will likely win our 22nd game in January. They lost more games that season than we have in probably last 3 seasons combined and there tally of 79 points would only ever have won 2 out of the 27 seasons.

That United team are remembered because they won the European cup and the fa cup also yet we have fans who openly show lack of care to both competitions . We're going so strong in the league That we have no reason to not be able to give focus to other major honours which don't even offer an issue in distraction or fatigue that many dramatically think is an issue that could be troublesome.


 

 

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22 Jan 2020 01:39:28
Ridiculous to undermine keita and also overhype Jones to that extent. Keita has played in 49 games over 18 months since he joined, Jones has only a handful of cup appearances so how can you justify that Jones would be the better option. He's only 18 and yes he's shining in the reserves but prenier league and champions league games week in week out is too much to think he's ready yet, let him develop instead of handing him the pressure of replacing a 50 million midfielder who's played at the top of bundesliga for a few years and is obviously talented enough to play his way into our starting 11. It's like when people blindly thought Jordan ibe could replace the quality of sterling despite not having proved anything.

1 poster alluded to Jones finding it easier with all the top teammates he'd have around him but what about how he finds it coming up against likes of kante and other top midfields that he is yet to have played against. Give the lad time he's not ready yet and he doesn't need to be relied upon and thus weakening our side.


 

 

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22 Jan 2020 01:21:06
Simao and draxler to come in as back up also.