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24 May 2022 12:56:23
Lots of reports coming out with regards to Tchouameni at the moment.

English media: LivEcho (fairly unreliable) and Maddock (also unreliable) from the Mirror have said he's destined to join Madrid.

French Media: RMC (reliable) have stated he's agreed terms with both RM and LFC with a decision over his future sometime this week. Lequipe (semi reliable) have stated that the midfielder wants to join Liverpool.


1.) 24 May 2022 13:37:14
Just to add onto this (pressed send accidentally)

Spanish media are reporting that they see the player joining Liverpool.

Any updates from the Eds? It seems that Liverpool might have agreed personal terms and are now speaking with Monaco over a fee? Could be incorrect and should we hold our breath over it?!

{Ed002's Note - Forget the personal terms - nobody has an agreement with Monaco.}


2.) 24 May 2022 13:55:31
I saw Paul Mitchell claim that they would have to be 'aggressive offers' - you've previously mentioned that Monaco were looking to around €100mil, I would assume the final figure would be much lower than this?

Just wondering overall as it seems it could be a hugely expensive transfer.

Thanks as always! Also haven't seen much of WonderDogSparky as of late;)

{Ed002's Note - It would have to be lower. Monaco quoted that originally to Chelsea and Real Madrid.}


3.) 24 May 2022 14:02:16
So are we taking from that Ed002 that personal terms cannot be agreed with a player until the parent club have agreed to allowing the interested parties to talk to the player? If this IS the case, do you ever think personal terms are agreed in “principle” behind closed doors based on the potential that said parent club May sanction the transfer?

{Ed002's Note - No, you misunderstand. This is why I said ignore it.}


4.) 24 May 2022 15:51:34
Ed002 I'm aware the current situation at Chelsea means that they certainly are in no place to speak to Monaco surrounding a transfer, should this be resolved shortly could you see them also coming into the picture?

I'd assume that both Madrid and Liverpool will be aware of this and would look to seal a deal before Chelsea have an option to "swoop" in and attempt to sign the player.

{Ed002's Note - It doesn't really work like that. Liverpool have had every opportunity to negotiate a deal with Monaco and the player - they have finally approached Monaco. Real Madrid and Chelsea have spoken to Monaco on several occasopns but, as you say, Chelsea cannot agree any transfer until the sanctions are removed with confirmation of a new owner. All three clubs have other players in a similar position that they are considering.}


5.) 24 May 2022 16:22:47
News breaking that he's moving to Madrid for around £70m - guess that's over then. I wonder who else is on the midfield list.


6.) 24 May 2022 17:18:13
Ed002, is one of those other players Kone from Borussia Monchengladbach?

{Ed002's Note - No.}


7.) 24 May 2022 20:26:44
Is it news breaking on the Madrid site or just more clickbait?
People who buy into what they read with clickbait usually end up with egg on their faces.


8.) 24 May 2022 23:30:27
Hi Flash it was news from RMC (very reliable) and Fabrizio Romano (and other French journalists) claiming that Madrid were in talks with Monaco for a fee around €80mil+ and the player has his heart set on joining.

Since this has been revealed however bizarrely Spanish media have started stating that Madrid have absolutely no intention to pay that sort of money and that the player prefers a move to the Premier League. Very bizarre stuff - best to ignore for now as it's all up in the air.


9.) 24 May 2022 20:59:55
It’s pretty much a given, it’s been pretty much Madrid’s deal since Mbappe played them. We’ve acted too slowly and paid the price.


10.) 25 May 2022 07:59:24
Madrid needs a distraction after loosing out on Mbappe and will happily overpay to change the narrative.


11.) 25 May 2022 19:18:41
That's what I was hinting at Monkey. So called "reliable sources" still do their fair share of guessing or just making stuff up to keep the clicks coming.
And as for acting too slowly and paying the price V4, what price have we paid? Were we even in for the player?
And if he isn't signing for Madrid, who's to say he won't be signing for us?
Nobody knows except the clubs involved, the player and the agent. If he signs for us, all well and good. If he doesn't then we aren't going to collapse, we'll find a viable alternative.
Klopp and co know what they're doing.


 

 

04 Mar 2022 18:27:00
Evening, anything on Antony from Ajax for summer Ed002?

Few Liverpool sources said the club were tight lipped about him, looks a good player but would be very expensive and typically plays in Salah's position.

If not him then are Liverpool looking to any forwards for summer? It's well documented that a midfielder would he top of the list.

{Ed002's Note - Antony (RW/LW) Bayern Munich have declared an interest in giving Ajax a profit on the player but Ajax are not looking to sell and there is a dependency on a Bayern Munich player leaving. They may start to push. Real Madrid see him as an option but not top of their list and interest will wane. Chelsea see him as as an option as they look to resolve issues with their wide players. Manchester City see him as a possible Mahrez replacement and Manchester United as a Mason Greenwood replacement. Barcelona would take him or another player they have an eye on as a Dembele replacement, but will need to find a home for Dembele first. Ajax will look to extend his contract. Liverpool have no declared interest and he would be a Salah replacement.

Liverpool have looked at forwards as I have explained - but it would need to be driven by departures.}


1.) 06 Mar 2022 11:26:04
Cheers!


 

 

20 Jan 2022 09:33:06
Barca director, Alemany, just announced that Dembele will be leaving the club before Jan 31st as it's been made clear he will not be staying.

Ed002, I know you've previously stated that Klopp has the klipperties for the player but with him now becoming available in the market (although I really hope not) could you see Liverpool potentially trying to get a deal completed before the window ends?

{Ed002's Note - Ousmane Dembele (RW/LW/F) Klopp's interest does not seem to go away but the attraction will be that he is a Free Agent in the summer although his preference is likely to be elsewhere unless Salah or Mane were to leave. Barcelona have tried again with a new contract with no luck and a January sale could be difficult but his agent is offering him around - but looking for a very large signing on package. Barcelona may spring a surprise in January and look to see if something could be done with potential targets at Juventus or Milan to reduce the price although Juve may look to an agreement to take him as a Free Agent in the summer. Financially, it is in the best interests of the player to stay until the summer. They may also look to an exchange with Chelsea for Rudiger but the Chelsea interest is elsewhere rather than Dembele and can probably be discounted. With Sancho having arrived it is hard to see interest from Manchester United although they have been approached and they will need a Martial replacement at some point. Arsenal would need to offload Pepe to make space and remain an unattractive option - it would be madness to consider adding Dembele. PSG are seeking a French player still but have a preferred option as a Mbappe replacement. Injury concerns, inconsistent form and high wages must be considered by any potential buyers.


1.) 20 Jan 2022 11:50:00
Non exhaustive list of better value for money players than Ousmane Dembele:

Bozo Texino
Snoogy Doogie
Ken Aguero
Navy Keith
Former Leeds United and Scotland frontman Arthur Graham
Even Adama Traore

Dembele has AVOID AT ALL COSTS written all over him in big neon letters, there’s definitely no bargain to be had as he’s in such poor physical condition and he never will be, he’s as congenitally broken as a Lancia Beta. And a complete retromingent gilfnard of epic proportions.

His career will fizzle out in the next two/ three years and he’ll be struggling to get games at a mid table Turkish club. Odds on. Hard pass.


2.) 20 Jan 2022 12:41:17
You seem to be on the fence about Dembele, VVVV. Tell us how you really feel.

Jokes aside, you're right. Idk why we still seem to be interested, but everything about this bloke screams Balotelli all over again. Except probably more costly given his likely wage demands.


3.) 20 Jan 2022 12:54:12
Wondered how long it would be before VVVV commented how much he dislikes Ousmane. ;)


4.) 20 Jan 2022 12:36:51
So you're not a fan VVV? 😅.


5.) 20 Jan 2022 13:34:57
Someone better tell the big German lad.


6.) 20 Jan 2022 14:06:10
Scary how good he was coming from France to Dortmund. He was Mbappe level of potential but then injuries got the better of him. Nobody knew what footed he was as a youngster.


7.) 20 Jan 2022 13:17:38
Thing is, we don’t have a lot of money and we can’t make mistakes in the transfer market. Sign him on a long term deal on huge wages and we’re lumbered with him if and when it inevitably goes wrong as no one in their right mind would take him off our hands on the salary he’d be on. Besides which, it’s well documented by some very reliable sources that he’s for far more than what Salah is alleged to have asked us for, how happy do you think Salah would be if Dembele walked in (well hobbled, on crutches), on a salary of over £500’000 a week when the club had tyre kicked around his negotiations? Let him be someone else’s mistake.


8.) 20 Jan 2022 15:01:42
I don’t always agree with VVVV but he’s got this one spot on I reckon.


9.) 20 Jan 2022 15:13:29
On paper, he's said to be among the elite footballers of the world but in reality he's just a nightmare. Clearly the boy has talent but looking at how he disrespected Dortmund to force his way to Barca, and now he's trying to milk Barcelona after being injured so frequently, I just don't see why clubs even bother anymore. His attitude is poor and his wage demands are high plus his injury records are horrendous. That's a recipe for disaster, so it is a clear NO if you ask me.


10.) 20 Jan 2022 15:40:22
Just can't see the club taking such risks considering the way they operate and that its the last 2.5 years of JK, and if there is any chance of him coming back after a year off, the team needs to be rocking its 2.0 version.
Smoke and mirrors IMO.
Diaz is another matter. Can see this one coming straight out the bag and catching everyone out.


11.) 20 Jan 2022 18:36:05
If the money is right I can see both signing. I know he’s not what everyone wants but I think Klopp will push for him given he is free. Diaz I think will arrive in the summer.


12.) 21 Jan 2022 09:34:01
Made me laugh when I read Newcastle was considering Super Mario.


13.) 21 Jan 2022 10:56:12
Dembele has clearly got talent and it wouldn’t be beyond the realms of possibility that he establishes himself as one of the best players around. That said his injury record and seeming bad attitude would put me off plus he seems to want (and probably will get being a free transfer/ contract running down) massive money so it would seem one to swerve.


14.) 21 Jan 2022 22:29:41
Worth a year contract to say thanks for missing the sitter at the end of the 1st Leg CL semi in 18/ 19. Thanks lad.

{Ed0666's Note - let’s give out a pay as you play deal to Eider Gudjonsen then 😂


 

 

07 Jan 2022 17:06:39
Hi Ed002,

Ornstein from The Athletic has reported today that Liverpool, along with MUFC are interested in signing Aurelian Tchouameni in the Summer.

Any of that true? I recall that the player was first choice for Chelsea last summer however there was never any real mention of Liverpool being interested.

If there is:
1) How highly is the player rated?
2) What sort of figure would Monaco be looking for?

Many thanks!

{Ed002's Note - Aurelien Tchouameni (DM/CM) Juventus and Chelsea have all declared an interest in the player and have both held discussions with Monaco. Manchester United could look to him as a Paul Pogba replacement. Borussia Dortmund are interested in upgrading Axel Witsel and have looked at him as have others, such as Liverpool and Manchester City, without declaring an interest. Real Madrid opted for Camavinga and will concentrate on other priorities but cannot be discounted. Monaco have told clubs that they are not looking to sell. Juve may make an offer in January and would look to including a player in any deal - that could result in an offer from Chelsea and just possibly Real Madrid - who would look to include a player in any deal. Juve's issue is money which may see them switch their attention to Witsel or Zakaria if Monaco won't accept a player exchange. Chelsea will likely push for a deal.

They will look for perhaps €60M. Unless Fabinho is leaving Liverpool don't need him.}


1.) 08 Jan 2022 06:25:20
I still think we will get Bissouma in the summer to replace Milner and Naby. And Fabio Carvalho to replace Ox.


2.) 08 Jan 2022 10:46:54
I think you’ll be very disappointed Indian. We don’t have the money for Bissouma.


3.) 08 Jan 2022 13:20:41
I think we should sell Phillips, Origi, N. Williams and Karius this month and try for Bowen. West Ham might even be open to a deal involving Origi or Phillips plus cash. Karius is the only 1 i want to sell but the other 3 want more first team football apparently so we shouldn't block them from progressing their careers. Koumetio, Gordon, Bradley and Pitaluga can replace them all immediately anyway.

I'd sell Keita and Mane in the summer too and use the money we get for both to sign a long term successor to Henderson. Bissouma or Tchouameni would be fine. Bellingham or Rice if finances permitted which i doubt they do.

Henderson can replace Milner as the elder statesman but Mane should be sold whilst he holds some value. I'm sure teams like PSG, Bayern, Juve or Barcelona would be interested and i'm sure a fresh start would reinvigorate him and allow him to end his career in style.


4.) 08 Jan 2022 13:38:39
Bowen is a huge favourite at the hammers he is going nowhere in Jan.


5.) 08 Jan 2022 14:01:32
Therein lies the problem with buying in January, 1jj.

Unless we want Dembele or Sanches it's unlikely we'll sign anyone.


6.) 08 Jan 2022 16:30:59
Good points MK; hypothetically speaking, I'd move Jota, Origi and Nat on to fund a move for Dias. I'm aware this is not plausible mind!


7.) 08 Jan 2022 17:06:15
You been playing Football Manager over Christmas MK?


8.) 08 Jan 2022 17:21:56
Fabinho has been poor this season.


9.) 08 Jan 2022 19:15:00
What are you on Gandalf? Jota is the 1st piece of the future front line. or is the fountain of youth in your garden and you are inviting Salah and Mane around?


10.) 08 Jan 2022 20:06:46
Sell Jota? 😂 25 years old and 2nd top scorer in the league (only because Salah is the best player in the world) .

What more do you want from the poor bloke?


11.) 08 Jan 2022 23:47:31
Fabinho poor Sell jota? Are you guys high?


12.) 09 Jan 2022 01:30:57
😂😂 I stand by it. I don't think Jota has enough versatility nor link up play. He's clearly very instinctive and I think that's his strength and weakness. For me he's a rol of the dice. I know it's controversial 😂.


13.) 09 Jan 2022 08:54:49
Jota can play left wing, right wing, lone striker, striker in a 2, and attacking midfield.

He's the personification of versatility.

His link up play isn't at the same level as peak Firmino, but it's hardly a glaring weakness.

Fair play though, it is your opinion and you're entitled to it no matter how against the grain it is!


14.) 09 Jan 2022 10:55:57
I think Jota outside the box is horrible, different player inside the box tho.


15.) 10 Jan 2022 16:47:10
Who said sell karius? Been trying to do that for 3 or 4 years. No takers, and I don't blame them.


 

 

30 Nov 2021 18:20:43
Anyone know anything about the new GK coach joining the reds?

{Ed025's Note - i hope its karius.. :)


1.) 30 Nov 2021 19:42:36
Taffarel! My fav keeper ever what a result!


2.) 30 Nov 2021 19:43:11
It’s Tafferel that’s joined.


3.) 30 Nov 2021 19:55:39
Does anyone not know who he is?


4.) 30 Nov 2021 19:59:37
Karius :) Love it 025.
What are your plans for match tomorrow eve?

{Ed025's Note - i was going to go to the pub jonesy but have decided against it, my red mates will slaughter me if we get a hiding and the masochist in me has long since passed mate..


5.) 30 Nov 2021 20:22:35
Is he Welsh?


6.) 30 Nov 2021 20:45:09
Is there actual people who don’t know who Taffarel is!? Legend. Anyone above the age of 30 should have fond memories of him.


7.) 30 Nov 2021 20:56:52
Unfortunately i feel the gap in class has never been greater mate and no amount of derby pride/ spirit is going to help so don't blame you for swerving the boozer.
I'll be enjoying a couple of pints of Rivington at home with boy woder and feeling your pain.

{Ed025's Note - i fear for us jonesy because this bunch dont have the spirit or fight to tough it out, even though our teams in the past may not have been as good as liverpool they had grit and determination which is a bit of a leveller in derbies, but im afraid this current shower dont have the balls mate..


8.) 30 Nov 2021 21:46:48
People
Don’t know Taffarel? Hang your heads in shame!


9.) 30 Nov 2021 22:05:47
Wow, Taffarel! What an absolute pleasure for Becker who probably idolised him when he was a kid! And Pitaluga, who’s parents probably idolised Taffarel!

Fantastic, the best is about to get better 😉.


10.) 01 Dec 2021 12:52:44
That's the winter transfer budget gone then, ha.


 

 

 

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07 Mar 2022 12:09:23
Afternoon lads, on the "discussion posts" tab I've posted a breakdown of Liverpool's financial performance for FY21.

If you care take a look - it's positive news!


1.) 07 Mar 2022 12:53:28
Good summary. excluding the debt part which has considerably increased. Nevertheless, we are still a sell-to-buy. aren't we?


2.) 07 Mar 2022 13:15:47
I read an article yesterday that said we have also reduced our wage bill significantly which is now 314 mill a year and is the fourth highest of the big 6.


3.) 07 Mar 2022 13:39:08
Hi Transition_Time, the accounts show an overall improvement when it comes to debt. Financial debt as reported has gotten lower since FY20, transfer debt has increased. The net outcome however has seen a decrease in long term liabilities (in the accounts listed as creditors) and short term.

Further detailed are bank loans which have reduced - you would assume due to Liverpool paying these back. Amounts owing to Fenway has remained the same.


 

 

28 Jan 2022 08:58:38
Looks like Aakira might have been spot on with that £38mil and then some moving in LFC's accounts. Paul Joyce reporting £37.5mil upfront with bonuses after.

Could be a coincidence but otherwise, great rumour and a great outcome. What the site is all about 👍.


1.) 28 Jan 2022 09:09:36
Just read the thread and it is probably related, proper detective work that akira, fair play 👏.


2.) 28 Jan 2022 09:45:44
If it does happen fair play. might be a coincidence but if not thank you for sharing the information Aakira.


3.) 28 Jan 2022 09:52:59
One of the best rumours on the site of all time.

{Ed0666's Note - yes fair play. Let’s give credit where it’s due. Akira called it.


4.) 28 Jan 2022 10:25:07
What did Akira say? Have searched but can’t find his post.

{Ed0666's Note - he loosely said that Liverpool had put aside funds for a player and this could be for an imminent transfer. Again that’s a super loose translation if anyone wants to finesse it please be my guest


5.) 28 Jan 2022 10:30:48
Thanks Ed0666, fingers crossed he signs!

{Ed0666's Note - knowing our luck he snaps his ACL at the weekend!


6.) 28 Jan 2022 10:40:52
I guess this is what was you guys are looking for, as said by Akira1892:


"A huge amount has been sanctioned on LFC corporate accounts. This is usually seen during signings negoatiations. Incoming imminent? "

"Money has been moved. Its not balancing the books as its not between accounts. This type of movement happens during transfers. Its a bank guarantee credit note. These are issued as a guarantee to the third party that said capital exists.
I am not aware of any money to be paid to the city of liverpool for any infrastructure related investments hence my guess is that a transfer is imminent.
Am sorry i can't say how i know"

"38 and some millions. Its huge as no transfer is upfront with 100 percent money on day1. As this is a guarantee my guess is the player is ought to be at-least 38 millions.
Also lads this could be for past payments but we donot owe that kind of money to anyone. And also debt payments are not paid in bank guarantee.
I am chuckling but really have no idea what this money is for, my guess is that a transfer should be happening. "

{Ed0666's Note - good man Deeps


7.) 28 Jan 2022 10:12:01
Ornstein has given this one the thumbs up too, and he’s normally spot on. Credit to Akira!


8.) 28 Jan 2022 09:32:23
If we manage to get this one over the line I think this will be the most excited I have been about a Liverpool signing since Torres. He looks to be a special talent. Ed’s- do we think this one gets done now?

{Ed002's Note - There has to be a good chance.}


9.) 28 Jan 2022 10:51:58
Oh god hopefully not Ed0666, I’ll be keeping a close eye on the game now! Thanks Ed077. Fair play to Akira for the info. More of that during the summer would be very welcome.


10.) 28 Jan 2022 11:31:21
Spotters badge to Akira (in the words of Big Ron) and excellent detective work by Ed077! Akira should be carried on the shoulders of townsfolk wherever he goes because of that!

{Ed0666's Note - yes great piece of insider info from Akira. Well done mate.


11.) 28 Jan 2022 13:58:33
Akira! Are you Macca in disguise?


12.) 28 Jan 2022 14:08:12
Nice one, Akira.


13.) 28 Jan 2022 14:08:12
Nice one, Akira.


 

 

20 Dec 2021 11:05:44
Horrendous 'reffing' performance aside, Konate looks some player. I think when VVD is back we could start seeing a back two of Ibou and Virg.


1.) 20 Dec 2021 11:55:10
Agree that Konate was very impressive yesterday.


2.) 20 Dec 2021 15:38:32
Konate is a beast of a olayer.


 

 

12 Dec 2021 12:35:59
Can we have a chat at how abysmal officiating is in the premier league.

The City penalty decision is genuinely baffling, it's alright to make the initial mistake but VAR surely has to sort that out?

Also the second Chelsea penalty is absolutely ridiculous. 6'4 bloke falling down like a sack of spuds after some minimal contact in the box, have a day off.

Stuart Attwell also needs an award for probably having one of the worst officiating performances I've seen since David Coote last season at Goodison. At least the Salah penalty decision was spot on. That being said should Alisson have been penalised for bringing down Ings? (Not for me btw, minimal contact and the reason it even gets to that point is due to the clear foul by Ings who pushes Matip straight into Ali) .

It's insane how the richest and most watched league in the world has such incompetent officiating. There's been so many dubious decisions already this season but Saturday's were just horrendous. Hoping it improves because it ruins the results.


1.) 12 Dec 2021 12:44:13
May I suggest without the refs we wouldn't have a game of football to watch, so I am not saying they are perfect but they make mistakes and let's face it the players don't help them.


2.) 12 Dec 2021 13:04:38
I agree mighty, being a ref is a thankless task. We got away with one yesterday, Allison had a bit of a shocker.


3.) 12 Dec 2021 13:36:38
Horrible day for Alisson though, pouring down, cold, he must have been half frozen as there wasn’t an awful lot for him to do.
Not exactly Copacabana weather.


4.) 12 Dec 2021 13:44:17
Mighty Red, Markp08 - No, being a referee is not a thankless task, especially at Premier League level where they are paid six figures each season and interact with some of the most famous and admired people on earth on a weekly basis. Further, while referees are not typically held in the seem esteem as star players, excellent referees are long remembered with affection for their service to the game. Collina, for instance, is respected as much as any former player.
The standard of refereeing in the PL is disgraceful, it really is. Attwell was succeeding in refereeing the game away from Liverpool (awarding all marginal calls to Villa, allowing Villa to waste ample time without warning - both of which are key in not letting Liverpool sustain pressure), until he simply had to award what was a stonewall penalty. It was a shocking performance.


5.) 12 Dec 2021 14:08:56
It was the same weather for Martinez he seemed to handle it fine.


6.) 12 Dec 2021 14:10:50
Inconsistencies are terrible. The refs had behind VAR. When u see Chris Kavanagh going to the monitor u know he's siding with VAR and what's the point of linesmen/ women anymore?


7.) 12 Dec 2021 14:21:06
The ref had a better game than Allison.


8.) 12 Dec 2021 14:58:27
Martinez was kept very busy though OMM.
Alisson had next to nothing to do for long periods.


9.) 12 Dec 2021 15:09:49
I do agree Roro the refs and linemen hide behind VAR. Someone’s going to get injured constantly having to chase the offside player.


10.) 12 Dec 2021 15:52:31
Struggled badly with his concentration yesterday. Very like the West Ham game but thankfully we got away with it. In fairness to the man he's bailed us out enough times so it's hard to be overly critical.


11.) 12 Dec 2021 17:09:11
Alisson had a nightmare, but his challenge wasn't a penalty. They cleared that up on MOTD.


12.) 12 Dec 2021 18:01:03
I never said it was. Would have been harsh had it been given.


13.) 12 Dec 2021 20:34:44
@Rome1977 - Alison had a nightmare? I’ve told you a million times not to exaggerate!


14.) 13 Dec 2021 10:07:40
To those overreacting over Ali's perf., slow down with the OTT rhetoric cos it nowhere near such comments, IMO. OP, Ali was not at his best cos it seems he was so cold cos he had literally nothing to do. I do agree that he mistimed the bounce of the ball and then panicked and then, slipped and caused panic. On the Ings one, he played it well BUT Ings shoved Matip in the was of his clearance and the mayhem begins and brilliantly saves the situation.

As for your point on the Ings incident, it should be a non story cos Ings fouled Matip so the play should be blown dead for a foul on Matip from jump. That said and with the way Atwell's incompetence was growing to the point of the utter ridiculous at that pint, if he gave the pen., VAR would NOT have overturned it even tho there was a blatant foul on Matip that caused the incident. In this context, we got away with one there.


 

 

06 Nov 2021 16:00:45
Hi Ed001,

Was just wondering how you think VVD has done since returning from injury and whether you think there's any concerning signs?

I for one have been rather impressed of his overall game however slightly concerned that perhaps he's lost a bit of match sharpness since returning.

I understand that perhaps it will take maybe a few more games or maybe even a few months for him to perhaps return to his normal self however I think (bar the odd game) he has looked rather good and I'm hopeful he can return to the heights of pre-injury.

Let me know your thoughts. Thankfully it seems his pace and physicality hasn't been lost which is what I was most worried about since he was returning from an ACL injury.

{Ed001's Note - the concerning signs are his tendency to play like he did at Villa last season, but those signs have always been a concern. As for his play, not really other than that tendency to try and stroll through games.}


1.) 06 Nov 2021 16:25:22
Do you think he will change? Surely Klopp and his coaching team would be quick to get onto the player should it seem he isn't trying hard enough?


2.) 06 Nov 2021 17:21:20
I wouldn't say he isn't trying. He is trying to get back to his imperious best were pretty much everything came easy to him. For me he is a yard slow but I'm sure, in time he will get it back. Virgil was never a defender rash defender, more a reader of the game. Given time he will improve and although he has a bit to find he is still well above most of the CBs out there.


3.) 06 Nov 2021 17:37:33
He is so bad that teams are actually targetting the other side. aren't they? He is one player you could bet your house and job on the line to perform. easily the best defender the league has seen in ages.


4.) 06 Nov 2021 17:48:00
It’s not easy playing 3 games a week after so long out. Virg has to concentrate on his own game. That’s why he must partner Matip and not yet try to form a partnership with Konate.
After all it’s a UCL final winning CB partnership.


5.) 06 Nov 2021 17:53:28
He's coming back from a serious injury that would have been career ending some 20 odd years ago. He's still feeling his way back yo full form and fitness.
I doubt "getting onto him" is what Klopp will do.


6.) 06 Nov 2021 19:06:12
In fairness VVd is top draw in around 90-95% of games so I’m sure we can live with a drop off in the others. Similar to Allison (and others) when he makes a mistake or has a bad game then it’s easy to forget as their highs far far outweigh their lows.


7.) 06 Nov 2021 22:17:15
In all fairness to vvd we expect sometimes too much. such an injury means that at the very best he will be approaching full fitness some time in new year. We all expect him to be instantly as good as he was but we have to be realistic. The early CL qualification should allow us to manage his schedule so he is fully fit at the crucial stage of the season. fingers crossed.


8.) 07 Nov 2021 03:45:21
He looks like he has lost a bit of that initial burst of pace to me but, other than that still seems very, very good. His knack for drifting through lesser games and losing ficus is annoying but it has always been a facet of his game.


9.) 07 Nov 2021 11:00:23
VVD is playing as expected, IMO. Not yet at full pelt and still feeling his way back into form after a long layoff. His concentration issues and laid back attitude are still there, as Ed said so no surprise there.

As to the fact that he is so good that other teams target other players in our defence, Ed01 said something that needs to be considered, IMO. He said that cos VVD has been so great overall before his injuries, he still has credit in the bank with teams avoiding him. Now if he keeps going walkabout and showing signs of complacency, that’s going to change and teams are going to come after him. Either way, I think he’s doing fine and hopefully, he’ll be back to his best.


 

 

 

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24 May 2022 23:30:27
Hi Flash it was news from RMC (very reliable) and Fabrizio Romano (and other French journalists) claiming that Madrid were in talks with Monaco for a fee around €80mil+ and the player has his heart set on joining.

Since this has been revealed however bizarrely Spanish media have started stating that Madrid have absolutely no intention to pay that sort of money and that the player prefers a move to the Premier League. Very bizarre stuff - best to ignore for now as it's all up in the air.


 

 

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24 May 2022 16:22:47
News breaking that he's moving to Madrid for around £70m - guess that's over then. I wonder who else is on the midfield list.


 

 

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24 May 2022 15:51:34
Ed002 I'm aware the current situation at Chelsea means that they certainly are in no place to speak to Monaco surrounding a transfer, should this be resolved shortly could you see them also coming into the picture?

I'd assume that both Madrid and Liverpool will be aware of this and would look to seal a deal before Chelsea have an option to "swoop" in and attempt to sign the player.

{Ed002's Note - It doesn't really work like that. Liverpool have had every opportunity to negotiate a deal with Monaco and the player - they have finally approached Monaco. Real Madrid and Chelsea have spoken to Monaco on several occasopns but, as you say, Chelsea cannot agree any transfer until the sanctions are removed with confirmation of a new owner. All three clubs have other players in a similar position that they are considering.}


 

 

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24 May 2022 13:55:31
I saw Paul Mitchell claim that they would have to be 'aggressive offers' - you've previously mentioned that Monaco were looking to around €100mil, I would assume the final figure would be much lower than this?

Just wondering overall as it seems it could be a hugely expensive transfer.

Thanks as always! Also haven't seen much of WonderDogSparky as of late;)

{Ed002's Note - It would have to be lower. Monaco quoted that originally to Chelsea and Real Madrid.}


 

 

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24 May 2022 13:37:14
Just to add onto this (pressed send accidentally)

Spanish media are reporting that they see the player joining Liverpool.

Any updates from the Eds? It seems that Liverpool might have agreed personal terms and are now speaking with Monaco over a fee? Could be incorrect and should we hold our breath over it?!

{Ed002's Note - Forget the personal terms - nobody has an agreement with Monaco.}


 

 

 

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24 May 2022 17:27:00
It's been widely reported that Liverpool are looking at midfielders. It's certainly the part of the squad that needs Investment.

Tchouameni was obviously the number one target but there will be plenty of other players Liverpool will be looking at. Have faith in the scouts and transfer gurus!


 

 

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12 Mar 2022 15:58:24
I think Keita has been good all season.


 

 

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07 Mar 2022 13:39:08
Hi Transition_Time, the accounts show an overall improvement when it comes to debt. Financial debt as reported has gotten lower since FY20, transfer debt has increased. The net outcome however has seen a decrease in long term liabilities (in the accounts listed as creditors) and short term.

Further detailed are bank loans which have reduced - you would assume due to Liverpool paying these back. Amounts owing to Fenway has remained the same.


 

 

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26 Feb 2022 11:37:11
Accounts have been filed but haven't yet turned up on Companies House. Usually takes a week or so - you'll be able to better assess the financial position then (including debt) .


 

 

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27 Jan 2022 22:50:27
Apologies, I typed it in and couldn't find it.