Liverpool rumours 2

29 Nov 2025 16:14:22
Watched a couple of YouTube guys this morning, not the dtupid silly ones either. 1 saying there is a major issue with the players and gvb. His info came from a very trusted source within anfield. The other claiming to of been told this info from within that slot has been informed that he will be given 5 games to prove he's the right man, the 1st game being the psv game and the last being inter away.

So he's down to 4 games. Both you tubers arex of the older generation and fans more than anything so I'm choosing to believe this myself. Heard on here that West ham will be his last no matter if we win or lose, but it could more games yet. Feel we will lose tomorrow anyway.

29 Nov 2025 16:23:58
5 games could completely finish the season. Should have been ended the day after PSV.

29 Nov 2025 16:44:39
I have been told he has the next 2 games and needs to win both….

29 Nov 2025 16:47:47
GVB as in Gravenberch?

29 Nov 2025 16:52:01
I personally agree vv. But atleast they are seriously looking at him now, add that we've alledgely spoken to Julian Nagelsman to step in already. Hopefully he goes and we get a manager to entertain us again.

29 Nov 2025 17:38:21
I've never understood the whole "you have x number of games to save your job"

What if Slot reverts to our system of last year. wins the next 4 games, gets the nod of approval, then changes things up again and goes on another losing streak? Does the board then give him another ultimatum?

All very strange.

29 Nov 2025 17:39:50
GVB = Giovanni van Brokkoli.

29 Nov 2025 17:42:45
Van Bronckhorst Rax.

29 Nov 2025 17:09:14
JLC I don't think our system is massively different from last year. We rode our luck a lot and Salah saved us quite a bit.

29 Nov 2025 17:10:44
He can’t play last year’s system as Trent is gone. People hammered Trent for leaving gaps in defence, but maybe they perhaps now realise how much he had to do with Mo not tracking back at all. Bradley has, bar one exceptional performance, struggled to cope with it - and doesn’t have Trent’s tools in releasing Mo to an early ball.


No Trent means Mac and Mo struggling. Mac’s lack of pace now an issue.
When everyone is fit, I would like to see Wirtz back in midfield, with Grav and Slob holding.

29 Nov 2025 17:44:02
Trent barely featured last year and when he did he was more often than not, poor.

29 Nov 2025 17:48:15
Salah has never given the full back as much defensive help has he should

But that doesn’t mean the RB can walk through games or duck out of challenges.

That’s what Trent got to, and there’s no excuse for that.

29 Nov 2025 17:52:19
Phase two of the rebuild coming up, this time with the right manager in place.

29 Nov 2025 18:10:23
Trent had a nightmare v United, but otherwise was generally our MOM in every game he started - and our form nosedived when he was injured.
Local lad, who was at the heart of all our success - he was one of our all time greats, and made us more successful than other Liverpool born greats of the Prem era.


Sorry, but of the local lads he is above Gerrard, Robbie and Macca for me. He just changed the way the game can be played.

29 Nov 2025 18:48:07
The two games I think showed what Trent brought to the team last year were the games he missed PSG at home and the cup final loss to Newcastle.

29 Nov 2025 19:19:24
Red Flyer you’re talking rubbish it’s like night and day. Salah being the prime example, we broke quick last season, pressed higher and were not depressingly negative in the build up play. There’s a reason why Salah in about five months has gone from the most G/ A to barely getting a touch.

29 Nov 2025 20:24:00
Above Gerrard? You must be too young to have actually seen him play.

29 Nov 2025 20:35:03
@JLC, I agree with you. The idea that you have 2, 6, 10 games etc isn’t how a team / manager should be judged.

The yardstick should be the manager introducing or improving the was in which a team is set up to 0ay that works to the skills and strengths of the players available, that plays (or tries to play) attractive football that people want to watch and that wins.

Two (Villa, Real Madrid) possibly three games aside this season we have been abysmal. We have lacked basic energy, cohesion and any apparent desire to win. The rot set in when we won the PL last year. As soon as we were mathematically uncatchable we clocked off and have been getting worse at an increasingly alarming rate. Slot seems like a decent bloke but it’s time for da change - we are coming up on a quarter of the season being done and we are steadily getting worse with no sign that things will (perhaps even can) change.

29 Nov 2025 20:42:43
Me? I saw Gerrard. Saw Souness, Molby Whelan too. Always felt Gerrard could have been a great right back, but he never cut it for me in central midfield. Too many telegraphed passes, never took control of a key Prem game. Great in cup games, less so in league matches.
I would happily put Hendo and Szob above him as best cms since Souness.

Fine player, but not a leader - rather than dragging other players over the line, I always felt he held them back by saying give me the ball, I am more talented than you. Just don’t think that - against top 6 clubs - he ever seized control of a game.

29 Nov 2025 20:51:50
The football hasn't been as exciting but (as you may remember) my son and I analyze the xG statistics and our analysis shows that actually we haven't deserved to lose anywhere near the number of matches that we have. In fact looking at the xG we should have 24 points at the moment and be 3rd.

Now I know that there are lies, dmn lies and statistics but we haven't been as bad as everyone keeps saying. Watching the games I think we quite often look good until we go behind. There are certainly things that need sorting but I don't think it's quite as big a task as people are making out.

Agree with you @WDW about the clocking off. Quite disappointed about that.

{Ed025's Note - XG wins you nothing just like possession MCH, in fact you could have lost a lot more points than you have only for good fortune mate, please consider this as a reality check.. :)

29 Nov 2025 20:55:38
The nonsense about Trent last season! Our form nosedived? We won the league! Trent was awful last year. He started less than half of the games we played overall. Started 25 in the prem.

29 Nov 2025 22:20:21
Frode I wouldn't go so far as to say night and day. We flattered to deceive a lot last season especially the last 2 months of the season.

Salah has had moments this season but his vision, touch, passing and finishing has deserted him. He's not the same player.

29 Nov 2025 22:58:34
@ManCalledHorse I have seen the XG statistics, and while Liverpool have better XG most of the time, they do not pass the eye test at all.

Additionally, one mistake of the xG is that is cumulative and since we normally shoot more than the teams we play against, we end up with higher xG. It would be better to normalize it by shots or combine it with chances created and big chances missed.

So yes, it is a big task to ask, because as you say, we do not play bad offensively until we go behind. The problem is that defensively and the cohesion between defense and offense is bad points during games and that is not shown in most statistics.

29 Nov 2025 23:13:18
Trent was awful last season on the whole, bar maybe two or three games. As for the ridiculous assertion that he was better than Gerrard, utter nonsense. Never saw him grab a game by the scruff of the neck like Gerrard. He had good moments, but that’s all. Below average right back with an above average right foot.

29 Nov 2025 23:54:46
I think you might have watched a different Gerrard Monster. All opinions of course and I respect yours but mine is very different. Trent was and is a special player no doubt, but there's a reason a player with such vision and passing ability played at fullback. He didn't have the other necessary attributes, even at a basic level to play midfield effectively I e he has immense talent but his deficiencies limited where he could be practically utilised. Meanwhile Gerrard was one of the most completed all round players I think I have ever seen. Comparing Trent to Gerrard, a midfield general who could run all game, was quick, pass short, pass long, thread balls through the lines, finish, score from range, score free kicks, tracked back, good in the tackle all the while almost single handedly leading and dragging our team through 2 decades of relevant mediocrity, is totally unbalanced.

I can't think of a single modern midfield player that can do all those things. Take all the best bits of Szob, Hendo, Trent, Gini, Macca, Fabinho and roll them up into one player and then we might be getting somewhere near Gerrard. Prime
Gerrard in today's market would fetch over £200m easy.

30 Nov 2025 00:07:33
Not one person over the age of 25 calls the Premier League the Prem 😂.

30 Nov 2025 00:51:17
Monstersouness - Gerrard may not be a nice person but as a footballer? You need to give your head a wobble.

30 Nov 2025 00:52:34
I just think we need a shoutier assistant manager. Both AS and GVB are just too reasonable.
Nice guy, shouty guy.
Maybe oversimplified but losing Heitinger seems to be the difference for me.
Len.

30 Nov 2025 01:43:30
Trent was awful last year? Besides the fact that your observation is in my opinion quite plainly wrong, the fact that Trent is even on the field affects the way the other team approaches us. I'm not saying he is indispensable but we haven't fixed the way we play to account for his absence.

29 Nov 2025 23:30:54
@Ed025, True but the stats also suggest that Everton should be 15th - that's fairly accurate ;)

{Ed025's Note - the stars will line up now and again MCH, but as they say even a broken clock is right twice a day mate.. :)

30 Nov 2025 06:48:21
'above average right foot', Viktor? Let's be real, the lad redefined the full back position and has been one of the most creative players in the premier league/ one of the best progressive passers in Europe the last few seasons, all this while playing in defense.

I think it's nonsense that the bitterness over his departure has led folks to suggest he contributed little to the title win and that they are glad to see the back of him. I think it's a fact that we miss him, and again I would reiterate that I don't think that he is absolutely indispensable, it's the fault of the recruitment team to not adequately replace his progression from the back in this team.

I personally think that if we had somebody who had even half the ability of Trent to find runners in space or in behind this year Ekitike and Isak would have scored 5 or 6 more goals than we currently have right now.

30 Nov 2025 06:55:35
Monster souness. I think you have spoke the worst load of rubbish on here. Trent was better than Gerrard . give your head a wobble.

30 Nov 2025 08:53:20
Trent’s peak years in the prem by some distance for creativity were 2019, 20 and 22. He was clocking up an assist every three games around that time. In 2024 it moved to one in seven, and in 2025 he was at about one in five or six. He was never a really prolific goal scorer in the league, two or three a season type level. Some of his assists were equally due to the brilliance of Mo and Mane to be fair, he’d ping a pass and they still had a lot to do to convert those chances.

When you go deeper into the stats though he didn’t come out nearly as well defensively or in terms of passing accuracy. The likes of Walker, Reece James and even Trippier were often better than him even in the early 20’s when he was at his best.

So yes we definitely miss the creativity he offered at his best, his best was a while ago not last few seasons, and defensively and in other ways he wasn’t as good as others.

Where we’ve done badly is succession planning. He wasn’t as good and had been on the wane for a while, it was obvious he wasn’t going to stay, and we didn’t have a back up lined up that could stay fit.

Connors stats are well off creatively, a big part of that is due to him playing so few games, Mo has declined massively and we don’t have a Mane quality left sided player to supply. All of which points to having a more defensively sound right back, rather than worrying too much about trying to recreate a Trent from four or five years ago.

30 Nov 2025 09:14:58
Not just the RB getting no cover, Diaz worked his arse off on the left, Gakpo doesn't so both Fullbacks massively exposed, Konate and VVD equally exposed because of that.

30 Nov 2025 09:37:23
Trent's importance surely can't be evaluated purely based on his assists, he would find players in space who would then possibly provide an assist, he was a cheat code to spray the ball wide to the wings early or get the ball through the lines. Putting his pass accuracy next to the likes of Trippier and James is also a bit pointless, because Trent was tasked, by Klopp especially, to be the player that plays the riskiest passes up field, Trippier and James simply were never asked to play those sorts of passes up the field.

Yes defensively he was never brilliant but the team was built in a way to try to attenuate the impact of his deficiencies. All this is to say that comparing Trent to other right backs purely in terms of stats says nothing, really. He offers something that was of huge value to us and the way we play.

Not every coach wants to build his team around Trent, that's perfectly fair, I can imagine Tuchel probably won't ever want to do that, and Xabi looks like he's still on the fence around the issue. Slot last year was also trying to move away from having Trent be the hinge around which the entire team revolves in the build up, though Trent continued to play a massive part. Just because those coaches don't fancy paying the cost of putting Trent on the field, though, doesn't diminish his value as a player.

30 Nov 2025 09:38:17
And by 'recreate Trent from four of five years ago', I think you misunderstand my meaning. I mean we need to replace Trent's ball progression and creation from deep. You are talking about something entirely different.

30 Nov 2025 08:28:00
Talking about stats.
I read somewhere that if it weren't for late goals we scored in the first 5 games we would be 19th.

Though at the time i think we all thought it was just the team needing time to gel.

In some moments you would think. wow when this team clicks were going to destroy. turns out it was ourselves being destroyed.

30 Nov 2025 10:07:01
Monster, Gerrard is an all time first 11 LFC player. No question. It's only a pity that the timing of him going and Klopp incoming did not align. That would have been special.

30 Nov 2025 12:34:17
Monster. Gerrard is among some of the best midfielders in world football. Carried Liverpool for years. Had he gone to United or Chelsea or Real he would of been a superstar. To say trent was above him haha.

Madness. If trent is so special, what's he upto these days? Can't defend really, can ping a pass sure, never scored many free kicks either and not good enough for midfield. You seriously can't compare those 2.

30 Nov 2025 12:45:05
Ternt, Hendo and Dom above Gerrard?! Who let the United fans in?

Gerrard is an out-and-out legend. When people talk about the greatest midfielders of all time, Gerrard's name will always be one of the first on the list. Hendo couldn't lace Gerrard's boots. And while Dom is a very good player, he's still a country mile off Gerrard. If you never saw Gerrard take control of a big Premier League game, then you never watched him mate. You won't be able to convince anybody in here otherwise.

When people talk about the greatest RB's of all time I guarantee you, nobody will ever mention Trent. Ever. Great long ball specialist, good crosser and a threat from set pieces. Outside of that he had no pace, poor ability to run at players and take on defenders, awful one-on-one defending, a lack of consistency, terrible defensive positioning and one of the worst examples of a ball watcher I've ever seen. If I had a 5er for every time Trent forgot to pick up his man I'd be a multi millionaire.

These aren't opinions, these are just facts.

30 Nov 2025 11:51:32
Just goes to show that stats can mean anything you want them to. It doesn’t matter what ‘value’ xG computes, it’s what the score is at the end of the match that counts. We haven’t been unlucky, we are just playing badly.

30 Nov 2025 09:47:44
@Dominican_fan, you won't have seen our statistical analysis which gives far better consideration to the games than just adding up the individual xG values (which is what you get on TV) . I have created an android app which I'm happy to let the ed's have, and yourself since you have been looking at the stats, if you are happy not to distribute further at the moment. (There is a limit to the number of users that the server can support) .

Ed's please drop me a note if you/ df are interested in having it.

30 Nov 2025 14:16:27
With Stevie G (am I allowed to abbreviate his name? One poster had an issue with me abbreviating Premiership to Prem…. ), I do think he was a great. But not in central midfield. His best seasons were under Rafa as a 10 or on the right. Rafa never trusted him in cm, and I think he would have been better for England as a 10.


In cm, I always felt he lacked positional discipline and tried too many Hollywood balls.
And, funnily enough, I seem to remember him playing right back in an early game - and I always thought he could have been an era defining right back.
When it comes to an all-time LFC team, he would be right midfield for me. And Trent at right back.

30 Nov 2025 08:28:00
Talking about stats.
I read somewhere that if it weren't for late goals we scored in the first 5 games we would be 19th.

Though at the time i think we all thought it was just the team needing time to gel.

In some moments you would think. wow when this team clicks were going to destroy. turns out it was ourselves being destroyed.

30 Nov 2025 16:29:30
PB . the fact that you've had to write 3 essays of trents play to justify your love for him doesn't matter . other people can see he could pass a good ball but was a terrible defender and cost us plenty of goals .

he couldn't even get in the England team, there was James, Walker n Trippier all ahead of him . n now he can't get a game for Madrid with their first choice right back out.

30 Nov 2025 17:36:05
Trent is not even in the same stratosphere as Steven Gerrard. The best player i've ever seen in a liverpool jersey. only Barnes nd Suarez's 2 fantastic seasons come close to him.

30 Nov 2025 17:53:56
There were games where we conceded in the last minute too so we could be in the top 4 now if we’ve not lost those games. So let’s have some balance please.

01 Dec 2025 03:13:13
I specifically brought up the point of Trent not playing for real or England, did you miss that? Not every coach will like the plus and minuses that building a setup around Trent will bring and will want a more conventional fullback. So what? Does that make him a worse player or less important when he played for us? i don't think those coaches are wrong btw, it's just what they want from their team and how they want to progress the ball from other areas.

My sense is that you didn't read any of the 'essays' I wrote about Trent and simply repeated a point that I already addressed.

01 Dec 2025 03:28:16
Not ITK at all lol

But just can’t see Hughes, Edwards and co giving a 5 game ultimatum lol

Also, people say we should make a change to save the season? But making a change would literally end the season.

01 Dec 2025 06:48:15
PB . what ever way you wrap it up , its the same line . in your opinion no one is better than Trent but then you don't listen to what other people say about him, if you close down certain arguments to justify your argument.

the fact is Trent was that good, he'd be England's and Real Madrid first choice . yet these coaches don't agree with you, only Klopp thought this but he also let Trents ego go unchecked, walking round in the United game etc.

01 Dec 2025 09:12:21
The United game should be seen in context though. People forget that less than 24hrs prior, RM put a bid in for him to unsettle him. It clearly worked though because his head wasn't in the game that day. Trent has his deficiencies but he did help us win the PL twice and the champions league once.

01 Dec 2025 09:36:23
I never said that no one is better than Trent, I simply said he was a very important player for us and his function in our team hasn't been adequately replaced. Also why should it matter whether he plays for tuchel or Alonso? I only care about what he gave our team and what role he played.

01 Dec 2025 13:01:47
Steven Gerrard was an immense player, one of the best midfielders we’ve had. Definitely top 6. There was one season where he played a lot off the right, and his crossing and goal scoring was excellent. That was arguably one of his best spells but he preferred to play through the middle.

01 Dec 2025 15:52:06
Monster, right midfield would have been his best position. Rafa wanted him to play there but SG wanted CM and got his way. I remember ED01 spoke with knowledge on this previously. I believe so anyway!

29 Nov 2025 16:13:22
A question to all the guys ITK… is there any update of the situation with slot? Will the West Ham game be his last? Plus what happens if we beat them and also Sunderland, or is his gate already sealed?

29 Nov 2025 16:46:57
Yes his gate is the exit gate goodbye,

29 Nov 2025 16:53:11
Welded shut pal.

29 Nov 2025 17:17:52
He shouldn't have any more chances. He had enough time to change things but refused to. His press conference was about not changing for tomorrow aswell so the man is deluded and needs to go quickly.

30 Nov 2025 01:44:06
Sloth, do you post anything about our team that doesn't involve your desperation for slot to lose his job?

30 Nov 2025 11:53:04
Sorry, I can’t help myself …. What hasn’t the sloth got?

30 Nov 2025 16:48:40
Pat you’re right we haven’t adapted as well as we could have done to the loss of Trent, whether that was him at his peak or the Trent of the last few seasons where he occasionally brought something special to the piece but he wasn’t great by any stretch. At his best he helped the team hit some heights, the team helped counter balance his weaknesses, and other teams were put on the back foot when he had the ball. He was really unusual for a right back, and a risk taker.

With a declining Salah in the team we’ll be better with a more defensive minded player there, if we either replace Mo or his form and work rate picks up we could have a more expansive right back. It’s horses for courses. As Wirtz settles in we’ll get more creativity from him, it’s all just part of the evolution of the team which has been pretty painful this season.

01 Dec 2025 09:14:26
Agreed Hugo. Trent is a unique player but he needs the entire team to be built around him to make the best of his abilities. We'd be much better balanced with a more defensively solid RB.

The issue is that Slot seemed to still be playing as if he had Trent at RB and that doesn't work for us anymore. We are taking all the risks now with none of the benefit.

29 Nov 2025 09:19:30
Seen a lot saying Leoni will be back training in January, does anyone know anything? Thought he was confirmed out for the season.

29 Nov 2025 09:40:26
With the injury he had, beeing back in full training in a few months is some feat and pretty impossible.

{Ed001's Note - it is a very long rehab, so it would be very likely he would be back training then, but nowhere near ready to play. The muscle wasting along will take months to repair.}

29 Nov 2025 09:53:22
Fake news.

29 Nov 2025 09:56:25
It will take months for him to regain strength and more importantly confidence in his knee. So I believe it viable, but it will be highly monitored (knee) to see how well his recovery is going, good luck to the lad.

29 Nov 2025 10:20:18
If he is back, then it would most likely be a continuation of his rehab, so gym work. No chance of pitch work, or even jogging outside, at this stage. An ACL rupture is usually 6 - 9 months, but as Rodri's injury has shown, it can be a lot longer if not managed properly.

We won't see Leoni again till next season's pre season. A real shame because he looked like the complete opposite of Konate this season, which is kinda what we need, right now. On course for MOTM on his debut, then an innocuous moment, and Boom, ACL rupture. Sucks for the lad, but hopefully it is a minor blip on what will be a great career at Liverpool.

29 Nov 2025 10:52:25
Just hope he comes back from this. Bajcetic in the back of my mind.

29 Nov 2025 13:27:21
Yeah, don't expect to see him play football until the new season at the earliest. Best to have low expectations.

29 Nov 2025 13:49:02
I’ve had the same injury and I had over a year of physio. You can’t rush it am afraid.

29 Nov 2025 14:06:52
I just hope he gets back on track and it doesn't derail the young lad's career as we've sadly seen so often.

29 Nov 2025 14:13:02
Didn’t Zlatan fully recover from 2 separate ACL injuries in 7 months?

29 Nov 2025 17:13:58
People often misremember Zlatan's experience dealing with his ACL injury. He came back after 7 months, that is correct. But then he kept picking up injury after injury after that, even missing a 2 month stretch.

Zlatan was believing his own hype too much, and was especially fond of the memes that surrounded him, and so pushed himself to appease his own inflated ego. He was made to suffer for it, and missed a lot of game time.

29 Nov 2025 17:48:43
Giovanni is on a You Tube video walking briskly without Crutches or any walking aids, going into the Ground for the Carabao Cup loss game versus Crystal Palace 29 October.

The true extent of the tear will have been noticed by the Surgeon foremost, hopefully he has had the slightest tear possible. Though like the posts above, rest is the best though his comeback looks quite promising for next season.

The first team malaise is spreading throughout the club Liverpool under 18s were well beaten at Kirby Academy by man united under 18s 7-0 earlier today! Severe Defensive problems seem the norm at the Club for every LFC teams this season?

29 Nov 2025 17:53:07
I myself have suffered an ACL tear and there are many factors contributing to length of recovery.
I. e severity of tear,
Potential setbacks during rehabilitation and individuals ability to self heal.
With the advancements in treatment nowadays including cryotherapy which is a game changer during the healing process, then timescales can be reduced for sure.
But anything below 5-6 months would be miraculous.

29 Nov 2025 19:00:19
With him being so young his bodies in a good position to repair quicker and better than van dijk and Rodri’s. Also nice he isn’t as important to the team as those two were to their respective clubs so I can’t imagine there will be as much of a push to get him back in too early.

30 Nov 2025 11:55:35
So the younger you are the more likely you are to recover, irrespective of the amount of damage that may or may not have been done?

29 Nov 2025 00:33:20
Have any of the potential January transfer targets changed in light of a potential Manager change looking more likely?

{Ed001's Note - no, Hughes decides transfers anyway, so as to keep that from being an issue.}

29 Nov 2025 14:16:26
I think “Hughes decides the transfers. ” is part of our problem.

Didn’t happen under the previous regime.

28 Nov 2025 21:36:00
Hamann has come out and said if things don't improve with Wirtz, he can see him going out on loan after Christmas.

28 Nov 2025 21:45:39
He talks a lot of rubbish. This might be the biggest pile yet. If performance is the prerequisite criteria for sending out a player on loan then we'll be playing 9 of the U21s from Jan onwards.

28 Nov 2025 21:46:31
Yeah right, loan out the crown jewels and admit the whole summer window and appointing slot was a mistake.

He just needs a mamager that knows how to use him.

28 Nov 2025 21:53:10
He’s chatting rubbish he’s one of the best performing on the team.

28 Nov 2025 21:57:47
DH is an analyst on RTE here in God's Country, he speaks some garbage. Very embarrassing.

28 Nov 2025 23:01:11
He certainly talks some blarney does our Didi.

29 Nov 2025 00:28:37
“Sorry didi”- kevin doyle. Those who know- know. Those who don’t…. well- that’s okay.

29 Nov 2025 00:38:28
He earns his money by provoking a response. You are just giving him air space.

29 Nov 2025 05:36:22
Just like Carragher and Neville. they say controversial things for clickbait.

It's best that you ignore any and all pundits, analysts, ex footballers, tv presenters, etc.

They are just saying things to remain relevant.

29 Nov 2025 08:53:23
The bloke is embarrassing.

29 Nov 2025 09:54:42
He’s possibly the worst pundit or commentator of the lot. There’s a few really bad ones to be fair though so it’s hard to rank the ones at the bottom of the pile.

29 Nov 2025 10:19:13
He is a clown who mainly spout’s absolute rubbish.

29 Nov 2025 13:25:24
There's a reason that nobody cares what Didi Hamann thinks.

29 Nov 2025 18:17:22
I actually think there’s a pretty good competition amongst the experts amongst our past players as to who’s the worst. There’s Hamann, of course, but there’s also Owen, Carragher and my own choice, Steve Nicol - an excellent player but clueless as a commentator.

28 Nov 2025 16:39:05
Hi all, question for Ed001

Just wondering how firm our interest in Elliot Anderson will be for next summer?

Ta mate.

{Ed001's Note - I doubt there will be much interest if Slot is still in charge.}

28 Nov 2025 17:12:02
How can that be though? Our midfield gets ran through every match at this point, and we have 0 steel at the back protecting our CBs. Why does slot utterly refuse to grasp reality that we need to have a more solid base, that we need physicality?

28 Nov 2025 18:15:11
ScousDAP, his failure to address it will cost him his job.

28 Nov 2025 19:55:12
maybe Alonso will buy him, for Liverpool.

28 Nov 2025 21:53:42
Well want him as the next manager will have a ounce of sense in the importance of a powerful midfielder.

28 Nov 2025 15:50:30
Hi Ed 01, what can be the reasons why slot has not been relieved of his services yet?

{Ed001's Note - because they want to give him every chance to turn it around.}

28 Nov 2025 16:40:53
Madness he should have been sacked weeks ago.

28 Nov 2025 16:48:31
That’s pathetic . a win here a few losses after that it’s not going to change it really won’t the whole set up is wrong it’s just perpetuating the issue. these games are just awful to watch and the players are defeated before the games starts. it really is going to
Be an insufferable long season isn’t it.

28 Nov 2025 16:52:40
He doesn’t change anything to alter the direction.

West Ham away will be the same formation, same Line-Up, same tempo, same style, same Result.

28 Nov 2025 16:54:13
Give Slot 4 more years!

He's obviously just giving everyone a chance so his 2nd title win is more impressive, I thought it was obvious.

28 Nov 2025 16:54:50
Ed, do you also think it's because they haven't lined anyone else up yet as well? Do you think they could be talking with a few agents/ clubs? I honestly hope Slot turns it around, but not sure that he can.

{Ed001's Note - no, when they decide it is time, they will worry about that afterwards.}

28 Nov 2025 17:19:29
Ed who would you get in temporarily, if we have to wait for Iraola, or do you think Iraola signing mid season is well possible?

I understand that there are not lots of options at this time, but Slot has lost the plot.

{Ed001's Note - I would think we could get Iraola immediately, but if not, then it would depend if it is just while details are sorted or to complete the season. If it is the rest of the season, would perhaps a Dalglish overseeing any coaches be a decent option? Unlike Klopp, who does not want a return, Dalglish would absolutely jump at the chance. Or maybe Rafa? I don't see many options really for interim.}

28 Nov 2025 18:16:55
I am informed 2 games to save his job, 6 points required….

28 Nov 2025 18:33:18
Ed, I'll admit I haven't watched Bournemouth very frequently, but you seem sold on it.

What makes you confident that the style of play will translate well with this squad? I'm not doubting it at all, just genuinely curious.

{Ed001's Note - because it is very similar to Klopp's.}

28 Nov 2025 18:41:25
Thanks Ed -Do you think the interim would have to maintain the vision for tactics / style that edwards and hughes are trying to implement, or could Rafa do Rafa things?

At least Bournmouth would get money for Iraola if he leaves now - interim sounds unsettling and riddled with issues.

{Ed001's Note - interim just has to get the best results possible, however it happens to be.}

28 Nov 2025 18:42:56
Funny ed1 I thought if going for an interim manager for a shortish period daglish would be good bet. His enthusiasm and old school outlook to football maybe just what we need at minute. I don't think gerrard r klopp would be right choice for the role unfortunately and that's my head ruling my heart.

With daglish we would all, as supporters, be v clear it's a short term thing whether he does v well r not.

28 Nov 2025 18:51:38
Ed, Rafael is a no go as he only recently started a new job.

{Ed001's Note - mate Rafa would dump any job to come back. I just don't think it would be the right choice, even on an interim basis. Love the guy, but his time is done. It was just if an interim was required for the rest of the season there are very few options. Personally I would not want to wait that long and I believe a deal could be made with Bournemouth.}

28 Nov 2025 19:33:17
Although our power structure is normal there much be a few coaches who would prefer to stay where they are rather than working with Hughes and Edwards. And Hughes and Edwards probably don’t want anyone that challenges them too much, or gets in their way.

That must be massively in Iraola’s favour. I couldn’t see Rafa putting up with too much for too long without speaking out, but agree he’d jump at the chance to come back in any capacity. I wouldn’t mind it interim wise as he’d tighten things up and grind out wins.

28 Nov 2025 20:03:05
Would you just get on and do inevitable ed? Sack him and get Iraola in?

{Ed001's Note - yes, I would.}

28 Nov 2025 21:01:13
I hadn’t taken much notice of Iraola and in particular his tactics but in recent days I’ve been reading up a lot about him and as Ed’s have said he appears to favour a Klopp style of football and loves high press, physicality and flair in the final third. After reading everything I tend to lean more towards him than alonso as I don’t think our squad is shaped for Alonso, I also think alonso appears a little weak or naive in Europe.

I’d rather get Iraola now rather than wait on the possibility of Alonso. Wild card of inzaghi, loved how his Milan team played but again favours a back 3 which will never work in our league.

28 Nov 2025 21:54:35
Zidane until he takes over France. After that Alonso or Fabregas. Ariola and flasher aren’t it.

28 Nov 2025 22:03:43
I totally agree ED01. I believe he can do it. Zero problem. It's a risk, but one very much worthwhile taking. It's a no brainer for all parties, Inc supporters. Well, me anyway.

28 Nov 2025 22:32:57
Jerry, Zidane barely speaks English and his style of football is every bit as dull as Slot.

29 Nov 2025 13:38:36
Ed001, would you favour Iraola above Alonso?

{Ed001's Note - yes.}

29 Nov 2025 16:22:27
I agree Ed unfortunately alonso had his chance and chose Real Madrid, very silly decision but being Spanish understandable. Bournemouth are really the only team that plays very nice attacking football, and are entertaining to watch, iraola is the style we need. We still need guehi and go for semenyo also.

28 Nov 2025 13:50:40
Rumours about players.
Liverpool amongst others talking to Romas Turkish RB celik who's 28 and out of contract next summer. Valued under 10m.

Wilfed Singo from Galatasary. RB/ CB 25 has a 55m buyout. Done well but that's in Turkey.

Reports from Turkey in October was that Galatasary want Salah and met his reps who sounded positive.

Konate not wanted by Madrid who I believe have turned to Upamecano. Bayern then may turn to Konate.

Liverpool given green light for Hungarian Alex Toth for €15m from Ferenvacos. Only 20 seen as the next Dom.

Host of prem clubs including us have been scouting Leipzigs Ouedraogo. Highly rated young midfielder.

Guehi we hopefully can get in Jan. Just pay what palace want. Semenyo also looks close.

So it seems we are still looking for a midfielder or two plus a RB and CB.

28 Nov 2025 14:19:04
I find it staggering that Real Madrid even considered him in the first place.

Anyone who has watched him over a sustained period will know he is erratic with his decision making, unpredictable in general, positionally inept, physically weak, can't head a ball properly, has a loose first touch, passes without looking up and runs down blind alleys when he carries it forward.

He's just very fast, decent in the tackle and tall enough to get first contact on lofted balls (even though he has no idea where they're going) . He's just a 6ft4 Wan Bissaka. Nobody will change my mind on that. I've watched him over 100 times now and he's impressed on less than 5 occasions. Quite possibly the worst CB to play regularly for the club since Sakho.

28 Nov 2025 14:21:30
Alex Toth is a very good player, he's a long way from the finished article though and is another press-resistant technical midfielder who isn't as good off the ball as he is on it. He has the frame and physical attributes to reach Dom's level in time though.

28 Nov 2025 14:46:49
I take it your not keen MK 😂😂.

28 Nov 2025 14:52:24
How many right backs does a club actually need? The area’s were genuinely short of quality are centre midfield and central defence.

28 Nov 2025 15:10:40
Reusch, I said this 3 years ago and people berated me for it. I feel so sorry for Van Dijk at times. People always talk about Ferdinand and Vidic, or Terry and Carvalho. Who was Van Dijks stalwart partner? People will only ever mention Van Dijk in conversations about great Prem defenders/ defences, never his partner. Because he's never had a good and reliable one.

Virgil is now no longer elite in my opinion, but he spent all his prime years for us carrying Lovren, Gomez or Konate. He only got a decent partner for the 10-15 games a season Matip was fit. People are finally opening their eyes to just how bad Konate is now that Virgil is no longer good enough to carry him, but he's always been this bad. It was just masked by Virgil.

I'm tired of tip toeing around the muppets who claimed he is better than Guehi in the summer just because he's taller. Konate's a bad player and we should've replaced him years ago.

28 Nov 2025 15:18:24
I think we need a right back too VV. Bradley is injury prone and although committed he's also quite erratic on the pitch. He's not a great defender imo. Frimpong will eventually play as a winger I believe.

JG will More than likely depart too. If there's nobody of note available from the academy then really a RB would be required. It's obviously not a priority currently over other gaps. Anyway just my opinion.

28 Nov 2025 16:12:37
Konate on his day is an elite level center back, I don't care if I get pelters for saying that, and I realise that those days seem like a distant memory, but at times last season he was matching or even eclipsing Virgil with the standard of his performances. I don't know what has happened with him, I don't know what is going through his head, but I'm not going to jump on the wagon of folks berating him for having his head in Madrid, I don't think any of us are well placed to know that.

Also, MK, Gomez at his height of his powers looked like a world beater for years to come until he was hit with an awful injury. Let's not act like he was an average player being carried by Virgil. Matip wasn't half bad on his day and Lovren, while he was never a top tier center back, was more than serviceable for the most part, though he had a similar problem to Konate, one mistake and he would begin to fall apart for the rest of the game.

I also think you're wrong for saying that Virgil is no longer elite, but we'll leave that disagreement for another day.

28 Nov 2025 16:21:59
Wasn’t gerrard susceptible to back injuries early on classed as growing pain? Don’t call Bradley injury prone he’s a young kid growing in an elite football world obviously he’s still growing. Once he becomes stronger he will walk into most teams.

28 Nov 2025 17:08:45
I'd give Ramsay a game at RB. Slot alluded to Endo and Chiesa not impressing enough in training to warrant a start. Maybe Ramsay is in the same boat. But given his performance against Palace I'd put the round peg in the round hole and give him a crack at West Ham this weekend.

Good players from last season and new signings haven't turned bad over the summer. Everything I read is tactics and Slot. I've never seen a manager so close to the sack abyss change absolutely nothing believing it's all of a sudden going to look like 1988 Netherlands.

He's either the sole smartest guy in the room or looking to get sacked (implication being he can't see it coming) . I know what my money is on.

28 Nov 2025 17:20:30
That’s what a great player such a Virgil does. He makes his partner look better than they actually are. Gomez wouldn’t have looked a like a “world beater” (he wasn’t btw) without Virgil by his side.
I agree with MK that the only decent CB partner Virgil has had was Matip. Virgil needs help and he ain’t getting much at the minute.

{Ed025's Note - there is no doubting VVD,s quality Irish, but even he has let standards slip over the past couple of months mate and he need a kick up the arse as well imo..

28 Nov 2025 17:35:42
Slot said Endo and Gomez weren't impressive in training so he kept playing Konate who has been absolutely dreadful in every game apart from maybe one this season. Great management that.

28 Nov 2025 18:16:15
Do appreciate the comments on VVD following our current form, also that Konate and others have been carried by him. I think ane hope VVD has more to offer though as he has so much quality.

28 Nov 2025 18:18:58
Totally agree PB. People quickly forget how good Ibou can be and why he starts for France and Liverpool. Not many CBs could of coped covering the spaces he did when we played an aggressive high line under Klopp, and not to mention covering for TAA. He's been awful this season and does seem to get in his own head.

VVD is 100% still elite. Last season I thought he was peaking again. This season everyone simply looks terrible for some reason. But VVD starts for every club in the world right now. Maybe not Arsenal due to the established partnership but as an individual he's still better than both IMO.

28 Nov 2025 22:36:05
Imagine being a defender having to play behind our rubbish show of a midfield. Its would make Alan Hansen look like Kvarme.

28 Nov 2025 23:45:19
Was he Norwegian?

29 Nov 2025 06:42:09
Konate is in no way an elite level CB

He makes one sliding tackle in a match - up goes the “Ibou” shout- and then that’s what people remember

His positioning is awful, as is his reading of the game.

28 Nov 2025 10:27:37
See Madrid have dropped their interest in Konate, according to Sly sports. That's what playing like a lame donkey with ridiculous wage demands does.

28 Nov 2025 11:29:42
Very kind of Madrid to let us know.

28 Nov 2025 11:35:19
Just get rid of him . Let him off for free in the summer . just bench him for the rest of the season. Hopefully slot will be gone shortly too.

28 Nov 2025 11:40:03
Maybe Real Valladolid could be persuaded to bid?

28 Nov 2025 12:14:12
He's going to look stupid now, club bent over backwards offering him everything he demanded only for him to turn it down possibly holding out for Madrid now they don't want him, bench him and let him trott in the summer.

28 Nov 2025 12:40:29
Konate is the only player who id let go for free . should have tried our hardest to get him sold last year when the knew he wouldn't sign a contract . but I wouldn't offer him a new contract.

28 Nov 2025 12:40:42
The club needs to get him off the pitch and off the books.

28 Nov 2025 13:28:41
Everyone's form is poor bar Dom, Hugo and Ali. Ibou is just another serioudly out of form and fitness player.

28 Nov 2025 14:31:28
Worst case scenario now would be if he signed a new contract with us. I hope there's no longer an offer on the table.

28 Nov 2025 15:11:19
Totally agree Salah, should withdraw any offer and get shut.

28 Nov 2025 15:19:27
Agreed Salah. Absolutely agreed.

28 Nov 2025 17:09:32
It's like watching deal or no deal with Konate. He's got two suitcases left and all the big money is gone.

{Ed025's Note - love it RF..

28 Nov 2025 19:48:57
They'll still offer a contract rather than lose him for free. Were talkin tens of millions here.

28 Nov 2025 20:33:02
You make a good point, FM but who's going to buy him? we'd be stuck with a lump of lard, mate. I'd rather he goes on a free, it's either that or we're stuck with him and he's on god knows what per week sitting there doing nothing because in time he's getting replaced - hopefully January.

28 Nov 2025 21:51:11
FM Konate likely won't sign for what he feels are sub standard wages and we'll be stuck w him rain or shine. Cut our losses so to speak and let him go. Guehi is close to free so take the bird in the hand.

29 Nov 2025 14:44:54
He'd end up doing nothing beside Gomez on the bench with both then stealing a wage.

28 Nov 2025 09:28:11
Question for the Ed's.

Do clubs need to agree a compensation package if they are to hire a manager from another club or could they just 'buy out' the remainder of the managers contract?

{Ed001's Note - the compensation is, in essence, for buying out the contract.}

28 Nov 2025 11:18:57
But with only 6 months left of their contracts could we just pay the remaining contract for likes of Iraola or Glasner or can the clubs demand more?

28 Nov 2025 12:19:33
They can demand what they like. A contract is a contract. However, like Middlesbrough recently found out with Rob Edwards, holding a manager to a contract when he wants to leave is futile.
The manager who wants to leave has to be replaced otherwise the whole team and backroom staff suffers.

The most spiteful thing a club could do is put their manager on gardening leave until their contract expires, but it’s very self-defeating.

The sensible thing is to negotiate with the other club and the starting point would be the minimum cost to pay off the contract.

Liverpool would have to buy out the managers contract, pay some compensation and buy out any backroom staff the manager wants with him.
It can mount up and it probably contributes to their spending limits with FFP (or whatever the acronym is) .

28 Nov 2025 09:03:43
Reports online of Liverpool board seeing ange postecoglu as a viable slot replacement, apparently he is liked by the club's owners.
Praying with every fibre of my body it's just Internet clickbait.

28 Nov 2025 11:06:11
Pretty laughable really, sack the board.

28 Nov 2025 11:09:03
No chance, don't believe everything you read on the internet.

28 Nov 2025 12:01:24
If the defence wasn't a weak point already, it certainly would be with Angeball in charge.

28 Nov 2025 12:02:13
Is it April Fools or something?

28 Nov 2025 12:04:03
Controlled leaks to bum steer and to highlight how slim the pickings out there are.

28 Nov 2025 12:20:33
Maybe as an interim until the summer managerial merry-go-round, but I can’t see it being a good appointment.

28 Nov 2025 13:04:13
don't believe that for a second. no way they could seriously consider him for the job.

28 Nov 2025 15:12:38
I think he's a real character and a boyhood LFC fan. But I wouldn't want him near the club.

28 Nov 2025 08:53:22
Rumours are saying Madrid have moved on from Konate and won’t pursue him.

Not surprised as his level has been not even good enough for the championship this season.

We need to replace him, not offer him a new contract.

28 Nov 2025 10:45:00
Ornstein on X is reporting it. That should change things a bit if true.

28 Nov 2025 11:03:40
If looking at his performances of late he’s more Margate standard than Madrid.

28 Nov 2025 11:17:02
Ed with you mentioning before he didn't want a contract, I assume that must mean PSG still hold an interest? As I'd imagine Konate would have known for awhile Madrid weren't going to pursue him?

{Ed001's Note - I don't think he did know, I think he genuinely thought he was going to have his pick of clubs.}

28 Nov 2025 11:48:26
We need to get him to sign a contract so we can get £9.99 for him in the Summer.

28 Nov 2025 12:10:45
Zabarnyi seems to be doing ok at PSG and they play the same position. Konate might find his options very limited.

28 Nov 2025 12:09:40
If that's true Ed it just shows how simple minded some of these players are. Or are they in that much of a bubble that they simply don't realise or care when they have been shocking? How could Ibou think Madrid, even on a free would want him for anything other than 4th choice CB cover?

28 Nov 2025 12:35:39
Thanks Ed!

For too long I've been hoping he starts playing well again. At this point the only sad thing about him leaving is we aren't getting anything for him, but who would pay a lot on current form!

28 Nov 2025 12:42:19
He certainly has a high opinion of himself. I remember him speaking publicly that he should have been man of the match (masquerading as humour), but he has also suggested that everyone focuses on Virg too much.

Ibou, much as I like him, is not fit to lace Virg's boots. Virg has been, is and will always be levels above.

28 Nov 2025 13:18:06
Taurus01, your comment about Konate only being good enough for the Championship could turn out to be right. That's where we'll be next season if we carry on playing the way we are now.

28 Nov 2025 13:48:57
I'm not going to make excuses about his level of performance this season, but everybody on here is convinced that they know what's going on in his head and spout all sorts of abuse towards him, that hardly seems fair to me, could it be that he is lost at sea and struggling with the first patch of bad form in his career? If he was struggling with something mentally and all the fans were convinced he was just coasting till his big payday at Madrid it would be a sad state of affairs.

I think he probably needs resting and hasn't played well (though there are other tactical reasons that impact his form) but I don't feel like I'm best placed to know what the lad is thinking or going through.

28 Nov 2025 19:59:18
All that could be true Patrik, it it could be just that he’s not as focused as he thinks he’s leaving. Whatever, the coaches should solve it with him. Even if he prefers to play through it it’s massively hurting the club so he should have been taken out before now. These things can be a bit contagious if they’re not dealt with.