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13 Jan 2022 09:56:25
Saw a mention in a player caler Musa Barrow this morning. I'm not entirely familiar with the player but the write up about being a versatile forward player who can pay off the wings and/ or through the middle seems to match the Klopp type player.
Do any of the eds know much of the player and whether there is any legitimate interest.
{Ed002's Note - He is as you say versatile, typically a LW but can play as a striker. I am not sure how you decide if he is a "Klopp type player" but I would not hold your breath about a move to Liverpool. He will be at AFCON at the moment and I am not aware of any interest from Liverpool at all.}
1.) 13 Jan 2022 10:54:30
I've heard we've made enquiries about his younger brother "Wheel"; I think he's more in line with our transfer budget.
2.) 13 Jan 2022 11:58:02
I wound brother with his brother Wheel. They say he’s always tyred. Maybe he just needs a brake.
27 Sep 2021 23:18:39
Evening Eds, is there any news surrounding Trent not travelling with the squad to Portugal?
{Ed001's Note - none just that he didn't go but had trained ok before that. So hopefully just a slight knock.}
1.) 28 Sep 2021 22:27:31
groin strain.
2.) 28 Sep 2021 23:04:19
Groin strain and klopp said he's not looking good for Sunday. It's why milner was subbed once the game was won.
10 Sep 2020 20:58:17
Good evening ed's and reds. Is there anything in Liverpool scouting Dortmunds young 17 year old AM Giovanni Reyes at all? Maybe not a move now but I was wondering what the opinion on the lad from Liverpool was as I have seen potential links.
Wishing everyone well in these mad times.
{Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it, sorry.}
1.) 10 Sep 2020 22:51:16
not surprising they would scout him based on his skill set and progression over the last year. before anybody jumps down my throat I will also say that the fact that he's American has to be an attractive option to Liverpool just like Christian pulisic. Liverpool's not going to sign somebody based on where they're from clearly but if they have talent and also have marketing capabilities that seems to be like a win-win. as an American I'm just glad we finally have some Young bucks, who actually have skills and who are not playing in the toilet league that is MLS.
2.) 10 Sep 2020 23:23:07
Absolutely agree on the nationality not deciding but definitely influencing a decision. Take Minamino for example. Great player and in pre season has looked a step above what he was when signed. However, add on to that there really isn't many Japanese players at the top top clubs. His marketing for the club will push us in a direction not achievable before in japan.
3.) 11 Sep 2020 16:41:54
Hey Pete are you in Colorado too?
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21 Sep 2020 08:05:14
Ed's excuse me if i am not entirely correct with this list, however, with
GK: Kelleher, Grabara
Def: Gomez, Trent, Nico, Nat Phillips*
Mid: Hendo, Milner, Ox*, Jones,
Forwards: Brewster*, Wilson*, Elliot.
(asterisk marking players either linked in the media with a move or fans have suggested be sold to finance a non HG player move)
is there any plan by the club to fix the potential dwindling HG player quota? or is it more a case of don't believe everything you read. It would be interesting to know if the club are looking at bringing in any HG players.
Thanks for all your hard work and answers year round.
{Ed001's Note - the club always looks at homegrown options before buying. We tried for one at left-back if you remember. It is just not that simple as there are only a very limited number of homegrown players and the numbers of good ones is falling rapidly with a lot of the better ones choosing to move abroad now. Players like Musiala will be English (well even that may change as he could choose to represent Germany) but potentially will not come into the homegrown category in the future. So the pot will dwindle still further and make the few good ones even more expensive. That is why the academy will become even more important in the future.}
1.) 21 Sep 2020 08:22:52
Ed001 thank you for the swift reply, i was just wondering as i'm not entirely sure on the ramifications of falling below the allotted quota. If the players touted for a move were to go, surely we would be dangerously close to breaking the rules set out and as such would receive the punishment.
I was just wondering as obviously Academy players would take time to blood through to a standard. Then money is obviously tighter with the current climate and HG players carry a premium. A high premium at that if they are of the wanted standard. Maybe there is a crop of ready made superstars waiting in the academy wings.
{Ed001's Note - there are no ramifications, you just have a smaller squad of players aged over 21. There are no rules stating you have to have them. It is not a quota. It is simply a space reserved in Premier League squads for homegrown players that cannot be taken up by other players.}
2.) 21 Sep 2020 10:09:17
Hi RedQ. If i am getting your question correct, below is my attempt to answer.
Out of the 25 available spaces in a squad. You need to have 8 reserved for the homegrown players, of which 4 should be club home grown like TAA, and 4 can be association home grown. Like henderson.
Now, remaining 17 can be non HG players. If you have more than 17, you will not be able to register all of them. Remember, 2 years ago, Juventus was not able to registet Emre Can for ucl games. The way our squad stands at the moment, we either need to sell some non HG players over 21 else we will have to exclude some of them while registerimg our squad.
3.) 21 Sep 2020 10:45:16
@Bullet. I'm sure the requirement for 4 of them to be club developed is only applicable to our squad for European games.
I'm pretty sure the EPL rules, are just 8 HG players. Players that spent 3 years before 21 years old playing in England and Wales.
{Ed002's Note - I answered this a couple of days ago, but again:
There are two things to consider and not to confuse:
(1) Home Grown: The EPL squad rules are a max of 25 players over 21, of which a max of 17 can be non-Home Grown. The remaining eight have to be HG (spending 3 years between 16 and 21 with an English or Welsh side, regardless of nationality, e.g. Nathan Ake is Home Grown for the EPL). If there are not enough HG players, then the squad size reduces, so if there are only six, the squad reduces to 23. In terms of UEFA competitions, the rules vary slightly with the eight "HG". A maximum of four of those eight can be trained by other clubs in the English and Welsh association. The remaining have to be club developed and trained. So If Arsenal were to recruit Mason Mount, he would fall in to the category of being association trained (by Chelsea) rather than club trained. Again, if there are not sufficient club trained players the squad size is reduced. So for Liverpool, Caoimhin Kelleher, Harry Wilson and Trent Alexander-Arnold are the three that meet this criteria so the squad size in Europe will be 24 rather than 25 (or 23 if Wilson is sold).
(2) Club developed: In terms of "club developed and trained" means that they have spent at least 12 months with the club before the year of their 19th birthday. As such Ryan Sessegnon is not club developed by Spurs nor Joe Gomez by Liverpool.
Non HG (19)
Adrian
Alisson
Andrew Robertson
Diogo Jota
Divock Origi
Fabinho
Georginio Wijnaldum
Joel Matip
Karius
Konstantinos Tsimikas
Marko Grujic
Mohamed Salah
Nobby Keïta
Roberto Firmino
Sadio Mane
Takumi Minamino
Thiago
Virgil van Dijk
Xherdan Shaqiri
HG (7)
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
James Milner
Joe Gomez
Jordan Henderson
HG and Club Developed (3)
Caoimhin Kelleher
Harry Wilson
Trent Alexander-Arnold.
Herbie Kane (CM) is HG and Club Developed but not listed in the First Team squad
Nathanial Phillips (CM) is HG but not listed in the First Team squad and is being sold}
4.) 21 Sep 2020 11:01:36
Ed and Bullet,
I think I have just had a long standing misinterpretation of the whole HG situation. For the longest time I believed that the HG ruling was a quota that clubs needed x amount of HG payers in the squad. Now having it explained in the terms that it's only an allocation of your squad taken for only HG player it makes sense.
Thank you for putting it into laymen's terms for my understanding. So basically if we were to sell a portion of our HG players the only backlash would be self issued in the sense of having a smaller squad for a more condensed season ahead.
{Ed002's Note - The club are over the limit for Non HG players that they need to reduce to 17. After that they can have up to 8 HG players. If they have only four, the squad size reduces to 21.}
5.) 21 Sep 2020 11:31:17
RedQ, when these rules first came in, Chelsea's eight homegrown players, for two or three seasons, consisted of John Terry, Frank Lampard, a reserve goalkeeper whose name was Turnbull I think, and five empty spaces.
30 Oct 2019 18:58:05
Are bookings cross competition? If so with Fabs on 4 for the season are we likely to see him play tonight and just happen to pick up a booking meaning the one game ban would be Villa and then he is a guarantee for the City game?
Or do you see Klopp as a risk taker and he will rest him for tonight and hope he can be on his best behaviour at the weekend? Fabs has been integral so far this season and I couldn't imagine us going up against city with out him in the 6.
1.) 31 Oct 2019 01:00:26
I think that Klopp will tell Fabs to not take any chances and avoid that yellow card, we really need Fabs V man city, we have to win this match, more so while city are missing players . this game V man city is crucial, City win and they are closer to us, we win and the gap gets bigger .
30 Oct 2019 13:42:53
Are bookings cross competition? If so with Fabs on 4 for the season are we likely to see him play in the 6 tonight and just so happen to pick up a booking meaning he would be out of the Villa game but a guarantee for the City game?
or is Klopp a risk taker and he will rest him this evening and just hope he is on his best behaviour on the weekend? With Fabs being integral in the 6 this season thus far, it would be a major blow if he was out of the City game when it would be easily avoidable.
1.) 30 Oct 2019 14:13:46
What will happen will happen. I hope he doesn't deliberately pick up a card because it's the definition of cheating. Hendo can play at 6 against City if needed. It's a collective sport- Ox, Gini and Hendo can do a job against City at Anfield.
2.) 30 Oct 2019 15:04:02
I'd prefer Hendo than ox for the security of the midfield. Ox may pop in a good run or two but I don't fancy a Silva or KDB getting in on the space. Hendo frustrates me but he does a job well.
3.) 30 Oct 2019 15:30:51
We need Fab for City.
4.) 30 Oct 2019 16:04:28
@LRG: considering the last few times Ox played against City we won, and all our matches against them after that without the Ox resulted in a draw at best, I'd say a midfield containing Ox in it wouldn't be that bad a bet.
5.) 30 Oct 2019 17:10:14
In all fairness we need fab for BOTH prem games in my opinion. Villa ain't no gimmick or guarantee we will win, what's the point of him deliberately miss the villa game if we end up dropping points and hoping he makes a bigger impact for th city game. don't play him tonight he needs a lite rest, play him at villa saturday and what will be will be. If we cruising and he hasn't picked up a yellow bring him off then but its pointless prioritising games when we don't know any outcome.
6.) 31 Oct 2019 01:04:09
I agree, Fabs has to play against Villa, its still 3 points, I still think City will drop Points soon, another draw maybe .
7.) 30 Oct 2019 01:03:09
Personally, I would play Ox vs City cos based on visual evidence in the games he has played against them, he is unplayable. He is able to break the lines and attack that soft under-belly down the middle. But that's just me. Klopp will play Hendo cos well, he is fully trusted by Klopp to do the job he is asked, whatever the job is. On the other side, Ox is a more than brilliant option to bring on.
But before any of that, our full focus should be on the Villa game cos if we don't win that, the City game becomes even more massive and complicated cos we will only have a 3 point diff. VILLA, first.
19 Sep 2020 09:18:26
It's amazing business and and Edward's masterclass. However, how many fans will forget that we are still paying these deals off in future windows and complain that FSG aren't backing Klopp with any money or can't understand that we can win prize money but can't spend it.
18 Sep 2020 18:24:36
The overall package and consequences of signing Werner alone would have cost more than both these transfers.
You pay 50 mil transfer, 220+k per week. For a potentially non starter. Then the likes of Mane, Bobby, Salah, Virg, Allison etc all quite rightfully march in and ask why they don't get paid that and would like to negotiate. The harmony in the team is lost and the financial budget is up the swanny.
17 Sep 2020 14:50:29
Playing devils advocate here, Thiago is a great signing, world class player. However, he is adding depth to an already over crowded midfield, in a team already worryingly close to the home grown quota.
I trust Edwards and Klopp whole heartedly but worry that a more substantial ready made back up for the front three could shoot us in the foot. Will we be as lucky this year with injuries? nobody can tell the future but we are riding our luck in that area slightly.
10 Sep 2020 23:23:07
Absolutely agree on the nationality not deciding but definitely influencing a decision. Take Minamino for example. Great player and in pre season has looked a step above what he was when signed. However, add on to that there really isn't many Japanese players at the top top clubs. His marketing for the club will push us in a direction not achievable before in japan.
10 Sep 2020 14:54:31
Read a report today that an offer of 25m Euro with Doku staying at Anderlecht for the upcoming season is in the pipeline. I'm sure it is lazy reporting due to the well covered financial running of the club, but it is a rumour site to report and disect rumours doing the rounds.
26 Oct 2021 16:01:13
I seem to recollect Fergie once crying in a post match interview that Van Persie could have been killed by Ashley Williams when he kicked the ball at him from point blank range. But hey C. Ronaldo attempts it and its fine.
27 Nov 2020 09:09:59
1985mikey1985 - Gary Lineker reminisced this story Tuesday night on BT sport about his time at Barca. The emotion came through the screen when speaking about him.
{Ed0666's Note - I think Maradona must of done that trick a million times in his career when he kicked up in air for miles really hard and repeated it again and again. I bet a host of footballers have a similar story to tell. Truly was the GOAT in my humble opinion imagine him without the drugs, and the unprofessional attitude to training what he would have achieved...he would have won world cups on his own for argentina.
21 Sep 2020 11:01:36
Ed and Bullet,
I think I have just had a long standing misinterpretation of the whole HG situation. For the longest time I believed that the HG ruling was a quota that clubs needed x amount of HG payers in the squad. Now having it explained in the terms that it's only an allocation of your squad taken for only HG player it makes sense.
Thank you for putting it into laymen's terms for my understanding. So basically if we were to sell a portion of our HG players the only backlash would be self issued in the sense of having a smaller squad for a more condensed season ahead.
{Ed002's Note - The club are over the limit for Non HG players that they need to reduce to 17. After that they can have up to 8 HG players. If they have only four, the squad size reduces to 21.}
21 Sep 2020 08:22:52
Ed001 thank you for the swift reply, i was just wondering as i'm not entirely sure on the ramifications of falling below the allotted quota. If the players touted for a move were to go, surely we would be dangerously close to breaking the rules set out and as such would receive the punishment.
I was just wondering as obviously Academy players would take time to blood through to a standard. Then money is obviously tighter with the current climate and HG players carry a premium. A high premium at that if they are of the wanted standard. Maybe there is a crop of ready made superstars waiting in the academy wings.
{Ed001's Note - there are no ramifications, you just have a smaller squad of players aged over 21. There are no rules stating you have to have them. It is not a quota. It is simply a space reserved in Premier League squads for homegrown players that cannot be taken up by other players.}