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25 Feb 2024 16:28:38
Watching from the States. Jon Champion just said this could be VVD last season at LFC. Anybtruth in this?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of Liverpool looking to sell him nor his agent offering him around. However, there needs to be a succession plan.}


1.) 25 Feb 2024 18:42:15
Vvd told its his first as a captain so that means there are more to come.


2.) 26 Feb 2024 10:47:30
Quansah is that plan.


3.) 26 Feb 2024 20:03:31
The bloke was carved from granite and is a true juggernaut. I am just so glad he chose to spend the best years of his career with Liverpool, we are so blessed.


4.) 28 Feb 2024 18:42:12
All of a sudden Quansah is VVD. He’s good but just stop with the rubbish comparisons.


 

 

09 May 2023 03:10:06
Ed002
If you might oblige. I was reading where PSG is looking to offload Newmar. With Messi also going do you expect them to move for Mo?
Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Mo Salah (RW) His agent is hawking him around for one last big payday - Real Madrid are not interested, PSG may be, Middle East certainly.

PSG are looking to let Neymar find a new home as well as Messi, but they have other options in mind.]


1.) 09 May 2023 12:18:34
Ed002, have Liverpool been scouting any right wingers in case Salah does go to PSG or the Middle East?

I know you've mentioned Lindstrom and Mount who can play RW but they're very different to Salah.

{Ed002's Note - No because they gave Salah a huge new contract.}


2.) 09 May 2023 14:32:15
I can’t understand why Madrid have never really attempted to buy Salah Ed002. I appreciate you’ve said before about Salah’s agent being laughed out of Madrid due to pay demands but were they that obscene like Gareth Bale or Eden Hazzard type of wages?
It just feels like certain clubs don’t maybe appreciate the quality Salah has had thru the seasons, especially going back 2/ 3 seasons.
I appreciate it might sound as if I would want Salah out the door, which is far the case, merely that I find it quite surprising that the big Spanish clubs or even PSG haven’t made a bigger push before. Cheers.


3.) 09 May 2023 20:50:34
Having put him on a massive (in LFCs terms) longterm contract I can’t see the club letting Mo go unless there is really massively silly transfer fee involved. We don’t have to sell and as well as being a great player he serves a purpose until Gordon is fit and ready to go in a couple of years.


4.) 10 May 2023 02:03:27
@WDW, I think Doak has overtaken Gordon in terms of development in recent times. Currently, he is the one I'd be looking at to be the long-term successor to Salah.


5.) 10 May 2023 03:18:58
I think Doak did well in his cameo but I’d reserve judgement until Gordon is fit. The club seem to rate Gordon and also seem happy to play the long game in terms of waiting for him to get over the injury.


6.) 10 May 2023 05:57:50
Fair enough WDW. I am leaning more towards Doak but that is mainly because personally, I feel that he impressed more in his cameos than Gordon did in his.


7.) 10 May 2023 09:39:37
Fair enough @Dracred - either way we have a couple of good prospects, a nice position to be in.


8.) 12 May 2023 01:57:23
my sense on clubs not harassing us for Mo is that they simply don't rate his value for them as highly as he is playing for us.


 

 

23 Mar 2020 22:15:25
Ed002

Trying to wrap my head around the future of the game if rubbish hits the fan. Realistically how many clubs do you see having to fold? Would they be able to come back from this? And would this possibly make the breakaway league more feasible? And lastly what will this shutdown mean for transfers and the market as a whole. Do you see fees coming down?

Cheers
Matt in FL.

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{Ed002's Note - A lot there Matt. But I will give it a shot: (1) As you know I hold a reasonably strong view in terms of the need to restructure football in Europe regardless. For me an eventual a breakaway pan-European league would force the restructuring of many of the national leagues, possibly resulting in a British league with perhaps only a couple of professional tiers and then regionalised amateur leagues below that. Wheether or not this could be a result of the current crisis I don't know, but clubs at all levels are working close to the wire - Premier League and other senior clubs throughout Europe have budgetted game income to pay wages as an example. Financially, even in the short-term, I do not see that so many English and Welsh pro sides can be sustained within the sport which, like it or not, will see more and more money going in to the highest levels of the game. Governments will ensure that grassroots sport get funding but everything in the middle (Southern, Northern, Conference, Division 2, Scottish Divisions 1-3, League of Wales will not get the funding needed to continue on any sort of professional basis. For me, clubs should already recognise this and put their efforts in to getting there finances in order to see if they can make it to a British professional league that will need to flourish without perhaps six sides that have eventually gone down the pan-European route - and have gone for good (it would be two or perhaps three initially). Clubs like Accrington Stanley will need to carry on as amateurs or face extinction (yet again). Clubs like Bury are drifting away, clubs like Hartlepool have been struggling - again they need to adapt. (2) The mighty Third Lanark have started their long journey back to the top - it can be done. Accrington Stanley have done it. Bradford Park Avenue are fighting to do it. (3) No, the breakaway is viable but the clubs would not look to this as an excuse. (4) It rather depends when the mess starts to clean up across Europe. It is possible that some clubs may not be in a position to do what they want financially. There are fewer and fewer cash rich clubs that may be able to control the market to some extent. But prices for players wanted by the English sides are well beyond what most clubs would pay. So timing is a big deal here.}


1.) 27 Mar 2020 09:33:01
Hi Ed002,
I don’t like the idea of euro breakaway league? For me the idea of winning or getting into the top is part of the excitement. Then by doing so you’re allowed to play the top teams in European football then.

How would playing only the top teams every year then be viewed after a while? What would it cost the fans in season tickets? What would the cost be of fans traveling to away game in Europe every other week?

These are just my views Ed, but to me the idea of playing Europe’s elite week in, week out is a no go. I would more inclined to scrap the league cup and have a mini tournament like fifa are doing. Ed, would be interesting to get your views. Do you think a breakaway league will work.

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - The game has changed significantly and will continue to do so whether the Liverpool supporters like it or not - and I appreciate that the Liverpool supporters know that they are notr part of the group of 21 "elite" sides discussing it. Football at the highest level is big business and attracts the sponsorship it does because the sponsors wish to tap in to the disposable income of the fans and ride the back of the advertising that flows naturally from the success some clubs achieve. Long gone are the days of the cloth-capped, hobnailed-booted, chimney sweep making his way, rattle in hand, to cheer on his team at Anfield on a Saturday afternoon. I have explained that there will be changes, probably within the next 10 to 12 years, which will force the restructuring of all of the leagues in Europe and likely do away with the likes of UEFA. You will have the opportunity to see the likes of Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Juventus and the other major European sides play in week-on-week regular competition at The Emirates, Stamford Bridge or wherever. Fans of the sides who take the plunge will have the opportunity to visit cities such as Milan, Barcelona, Munich, etc. every couple of weeks to watch their team play. It is far from expensive to make the trips and in many cases cheaper than paying British Rail to visit London. If you want to don your cloth cap, have a pint of wallop with your chums before going off to the local match through the grim, wet and cobbled streets of the Northwest of England where there is smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street and only chips and fried curry to eat, perhaps one of the sides from the suburbs will have survived so you can go and watch them? There is no doubt it would work.}


2.) 29 Mar 2020 10:50:48
The game, like all spectator sports, is based on emotion. And nothing will replace the emotion of, for a Liverpool fan, beating United, Everton, Arsenal, City, etc. And same for fans of the other teams. Visiting Barcelona, or Munich, or Rome - aesthetically a better experience? No doubt. Emotionally better? Probably not.

So while the pan-European league is possible, partly because top clubs have to eventually pay 20, 30, or 40 million a year for top players, it is not inevitable. Such a scenario is only possible with ever growing broadcast or streaming revenues.

Moreover, while team allegiances will remain, at some point there is the danger of paying spectators being turned off from traveling and cheering for super wealthy mercenaries with whom they no longer have anything in common.


 

 

18 Jul 2018 13:25:21
ESPN reporting fee agreed for Allison.

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1.) 18 Jul 2018 14:51:52
Anyone worried about the medical?


2.) 18 Jul 2018 15:58:33
Worried about his first mistake.


3.) 18 Jul 2018 17:39:26
He'll drop the pen to sign the contract.


4.) 18 Jul 2018 20:04:30
Not worried about his medical at all, his injury record to date is
Muscle injury - June 2015, out for 15 days
And another muscle injury in may this year, out for 4 days only lol.


 

 

24 Jan 2018 18:33:20
Ed002 hope you are well,
I was reading the posts and we are talking about transfers between Madrid, Barca, top six etc. What will happen to transfers if the breakaway league happens?
Thanks
Matt in FL.

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{Ed002's Note - This was discussed right at the start of the of the process and it is agreed that it will carry on as now - no different to buying a player from outside of UEFA (e.g. Brazil or China).}


1.) 24 Jan 2018 21:00:12
I try not to get carried away when I see Dramatic headlines and you guys have probably been through this so sorry to ask but if there any truth to the article that says we have agreed terms with lemar this evening?

I was superred81 but was finding it hard to login then went and miss spelled lemar, well my phone did. I think this deal would really make up for losing pc. Both for the team and the fans.

{Ed002's Note - The player or his club?


2.) 25 Jan 2018 09:33:28
With FIFA banning players from playing football in their games that move to the breakaway league, how will it affect players been transferred back into teams left within FIFA.

{Ed002's Note - The discusseion a couple of years ago led to the decision that it won't.}


3.) 25 Jan 2018 10:12:31
Ah OK thanks ed.


4.) 25 Jan 2018 15:13:05
Unfortunately it will be the death of football, watching the same teams play each week is not what football was meant to be.


 

 

 

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03 Aug 2023 23:11:21
So
I am giving up on the season, Klopp, the transfer window. LFC will be relegated, Everton win the league.
FFS the window isn't closed, a game hasn't been played.
I think this might be the best attack LFC has had. Midfield is considerably younger. They may have to score 3 per game while conceding 2, but it should be a great ride.

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1.) 04 Aug 2023 00:09:53
We can’t seem to defend well, we have a really bizarre hybrid system that is easily exploited (and will be exploited even more as the season progresses), we have let a high volume of players go but are then dragging our feet over replacements. A high quality attack doesn’t mitigate these problems.


2.) 04 Aug 2023 01:30:14
The defence will be sorted. If the system isn’t working Klopp will change it.

Honestly do you lot just love to moan? Anyone would think Klopp is purposely sabotaging our season by playing tactics that won’t work. I mean even Seano knows it won’t work so how does one of the top 5 managers in world football not see it?

Can’t you see how that sounds?

{Ed001's Note - and yet he didn't change a system that wasn't working last season. Even when there was a World Cup break to do so. Can you not see how blinkered you sound?

By the way, you are the moaning about moaning, do you just love to moan?}


3.) 04 Aug 2023 04:12:13
Exactly Ed001. People moan because we love our club. The complaining isn’t coming from poor results, it’s from watching an awful defensive line getting overrun time and time again against lesser opposition, not including BM of course. We can see what the problem is and we can see nothing being done about it, just like last year until it was too late. I love Klopp as much as the next LFC fan but this experimenting is costing us.
I also don’t buy into the whole ‘It’s preseason, it doesn’t matter’ excuse. It’s a good measure of our preparation, not by result but by performance. These are top level athletes we are talking about that have overcome huge odds to get into the position of being a highly paid footballer. I don’t believe there is ever such a thing as ‘just a friendly’ in their eyes or there certainly shouldn’t be. I played for my local non-league team in my youth. Then and even in my school days using coats and goalposts I always wanted to win every game, every training session, with everything I had so I don’t buy that pro’s will have any less commitment at elite level, save the occasionally waster like Balotelli, Keita or Morrison.
Yes the OP is correct our attack looks great, but we will not win anything with a poor defence. That is the foundation to win leagues and the midfield and attack follows. We didn’t win anything that way under Rodgers with SSS up top, we didn’t win anything in Salahs first year when he got 40+ goals and Bobby got nearly 30 and Mane 20. Despite how amazing those players have been it is no coincidence we started winning when we bought Ali and VVD and got tight at the back. We have conceded 10 goals in 4 games, 3 of those games against far inferior opposition. That is objectively poor and again it comes back to a problem a lot of people can see the root cause of and nothing is being done about it. Any oppo manager can see with their eyes shut that the way to play against us is to defend deep and counter quickly down our right flank. Teams with quality don’t even need to counter quickly, they can just pick out runners down our right flank as and when they choose as Trent is incapable of the positioning sense required to defend the flank adequately as we see time and time again. I’m sorry to say it but he’s as much a liability as Moreno was a few years back but he gets away with it because he’s local and great going forward. If you don’t see that problem fair enough, but If you do and don’t speak out I would say you’re not really a fan. We don’t love to moan, we are just passionate about our team and this forum is a safe place to vent.
Venting over!


4.) 04 Aug 2023 04:41:57
He won't change it is it ED1? I don't know how all of the coaches including Klopp himself doesn't see that it won't work. There is too much space on the right hand side of our defence once Trent inverted that waiting to be exploited by the opposition team. Plus Robbo doesn't look comfortable at all playing on the left cb position. It looks like he still wanting to go all the way into opposition side. Leaving the 2 CB to cover all of that space by themselves. Btw Ed1, who came up with this inverted stuff? Is it Guardiola, Ljinders, Arteta?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know who first came up with it, but I would be pretty confident it has been used in the past, long before any of them.}


5.) 04 Aug 2023 05:30:40
I said the other day. all just copying Fat Sam! ?
Truth is klopp can be stubborn both in originally changing the 433 and now I anticipate, with the hybrid system - we have worked on it since the last third of last season. It seems to be to get the same midfield and attacking numbers whilst not sacrificing a defender by keeping TAA playing there. Not a criticism as such more an observation.

I hope that the right balance is found to the system and it works but I can see as many issues created as it solves.

I would have liked to try a 442/ 424 system that we briefly saw last season until Diaz was injured. SALAH or Gakpo could play closer to Nunez whilst TAA could offer solutions in midfield and a flexible right side. depending on the team selected.


6.) 04 Aug 2023 11:30:09
I think Klopp will start with the inverted full back system. Whether it is successful will depend on how well the other three defenders adapt to that system. It has to be said that Robertson might well be a casualty of that system, as I feel we need to bring in a left sided centre back who is comfortable going wide.
I also don’t think we should gloss over the fact that Mac Allister and Szobozlai were woeful against Bayern. We hardly seemed to have any possession and, when we did, Mac Allister gave it away.
I think Klopp will iron out the problems enough to get us into the top 4, but not enough to win a major trophy.


 

 

25 Dec 2021 03:37:49
Merry Christmas to all the Eds 001, 002, and 025 hold a special place in my heart. I've lost track of the amount of years I have been coming to this site for info and entertainment. To all of you peace and health! Merry Christmas.

Ps Ed002, my birthday is Jan 1, any chance of getting a LFC Shakopod in the new year.

420FL

{Ed002's Note - There is an update coming. Have a good holiday season.}


1.) 25 Dec 2021 11:06:21
Well said.

Merry Christmas one and all.


2.) 25 Dec 2021 12:42:42
Merry Christmas everyone. I hope you all have a blessed day.


3.) 25 Dec 2021 13:25:20
Happy Christmas all you Reds YNWA.


 

 

18 Nov 2021 02:44:01
So I heard speculation today that with FSG purchase of the Penguins, they will be looking to launch their own streaming service with all 3 of their teams and the Nascar team. I think this is a brilliant idea. And here goes new revenue streams
Matt in FL.

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1.) 18 Nov 2021 06:43:53
How many penguins are they buying?

{Ed001's Note - enough to start a new colony in Pittsburgh apparently.}


2.) 18 Nov 2021 07:01:36
Best player in the NHL just now is a penguin no 87 Crosby. my gav I've hockey team and fav football team a match made in heaven all I need now is the wife to take to football.

{Ed001's Note - isn't it McDavid who is the best now?}


3.) 18 Nov 2021 08:04:59
Definitely McDavid, Crosby is probably a better 2 way player but the things McDavid can do are out of this world. As an Avs fan I’d say MacKinnon comes close too!


4.) 18 Nov 2021 10:16:30
Penguins are aliens. Look it up lol.


5.) 18 Nov 2021 11:28:05
Mcdavid is a better goal scorer but all round player is Crosby Mcdavid has never won the Stanley Cup whereas Crosby has 3 Cup rings.


6.) 18 Nov 2021 21:32:19
Can any of the penguins play wide forward during Afcon?


7.) 18 Nov 2021 21:36:51
Sidney Crosby is a beast. A true legend of the sport.


 

 

16 Nov 2021 23:03:44
So before everyone starts moaning. FSG are buying my hometown hockey team, the Pittsburgh Penguins. They are now owners of 2 of my favorite clubs. The NHL has a salary cap so they won't be taking from LFC. The Pens have won 5 Stanley cups in history, going back to back twice. I am looking forward to LFC coming to play a friendly in Pittsburgh
Matt in FL.

420FL

{Ed0666's Note - The ex owner Mario Lemiueux is staying on. He’s a solid stand up guy. Great socially also.


1.) 17 Nov 2021 12:51:29
Mario Lemieux and Wayne Gretzky. Those were the days.


2.) 17 Nov 2021 14:57:37
Meh, Colorado Avelanche and Detroid Red Wings for me. I really enjoyed watching Steve Yzerman, Joe Sakic and of course the legendary Patrick Roy.


3.) 17 Nov 2021 21:27:52
Lemieux is a legend of the sport.


 

 

18 Sep 2021 19:06:05
Hi quick question
I have an app that let's me listen to any radio station in the world. Is there a station in liverpool that does the local broadcast? I'm hoping there is like for nfl over here. If so what is the station # and call sign please

Cheers
Matt in FL.

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1.) 18 Sep 2021 19:26:09
Register in the club website. liverpoolfc. com and you get free match day broadcast commentary.


2.) 18 Sep 2021 19:53:56
Radio Merseyside.


 

 

 

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19 Jan 2024 04:51:22
Read an article hiw Mbappe is being mentored by LeBron James. There are connections to the club. Still unlikely, but fun to think about.

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19 Jul 2023 00:09:48
What if we sold Diaz for 200 mill. And bought Mbappe???????‍♂️.

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30 May 2022 00:32:00
VVVV
If Lewandowski signs, and that leads to more trophies, that is a success in my book.

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26 May 2022 22:27:50
If they go for anybody off Spurs I hope its Son.

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01 Feb 2022 03:24:11
Ed0666
I just want to say you all are appreciated. Don't let the Karen's ruin it for you.
Once again to all Ed's thanks for everything. Been reading and interacting on this site daily for years.
Cheers
Matt in FL.

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31 Mar 2024 22:27:38
ED001
Do I sound crazy thinking Allison should be sold for crazy money? I think Kelleher has proved he is a number 1. And clearly reinvest like they did with Coutinho.

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{Ed001's Note - yes.}


 

 

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17 Jun 2023 14:36:38
I've been happy in the States with Arlo White followed by Peter Drury. Always liked Derek Rae and Tommy Smith when ESPN did Champs League.

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14 May 2023 23:50:45
Forklift
I don't understand why its so easy to write off a 23 year old after a stop start year. Instead of slagging the kid try supporting him. At the least why don't you refrain from s. talking a kid.

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29 Jan 2023 21:07:18
You also have to give credit to Brighton. They are a good side. The winner by Mitoma was a great goal.

I still don't belive the team has dropped form this dramatically. I fully expect a run in the league sooner rather than later.

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20 Dec 2022 18:43:10
Monday night Football in the NFL was the biggest game of the week for years. Before they had 3 primetime games weekly. I personally loved it.

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