Liverpool banter 3

07 Dec 2025 11:05:24
Truth be told if slot pulls Mo to the side and says look Mo here’s my thinking then Mo doesn’t need to make the statement . Something must be amiss behind the scenes tho if the talk of player meetings are true too.

07 Dec 2025 11:37:04
If slot does infact leave for whatever reason what's the chances of stevie G as assistant to Zinedine Zidane with Gary Mac as part of the coaching staff?

07 Dec 2025 11:39:35
I think it might be best for all parties if both Slot and Salah depart.

07 Dec 2025 11:48:00
mo made the statement because he is one of us, all the players and most fans want slot gone now! only the blind superfans will tell you otherwise. Like we played well yesterday ignoring the fact Leeds gifted us 2 goals and we still f***** it up.

07 Dec 2025 11:49:05
There’s no need to make the statement full stop, like there was no need to spend the first half of last season talking like he was “out the door” to then sign a contract and do one of those ridiculous social media posts at the most important part of the season, I know that those things aren't necessarily down to the player but the fact his form has dropped off a cliff since then tells its own story.


So sick of footballers and their whining.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely Semi..

07 Dec 2025 12:29:24
I agree, ArneSlotsBarber to a point. To me, there is no more communication going on btw both individuals. There is turmoil in the club and in the dressing room, for sure. Salah didn't just go off. He prolly has been wanting to do this for a while now. He is that calculated esp. for someone who either does not give interviews or measures his words when he does give them.

And if anyone thinks that other players (esp. those Slot has frozen out) don't agree with Salah's outburst symbolocally then, they are not paying attention, IMO.

And this is not an either/ or. Salah going off does not remove from the fact that Slot should and prolly will go. and if Salah does go then, so be it. Just my take.

07 Dec 2025 13:12:58
ArneSlotsBarber, I wouldn't mind betting that when I'm at the Brighton game, the Slot song gets sang before the Salah one.

07 Dec 2025 11:01:57
I said a few weeks back i think Slot would be gone by xmas. Not because i'm in the know, but because its the logical thing to happen. It's also clear that Salah will be off as well in January based upon what he said in his interview. He's basically said he's off without actually saying it. Maybe he's chosen to be outspoken now because he's privy to that fact.

I wonder who the new interim would be? My moneys on Stevie G. Not saying that's what i want, but what other options are there? Dodgy Sam anyone? I just hope our next new full time manager is a proven winner at the highest level, and gets us playing how we should be. There's some real enviable talent in that squad but it's not being used in the right way. Hopefully the new man can fix it.
Out of the names mentioned, I don't know who i would prefer. What is people's preference and why?

07 Dec 2025 11:57:33
There lies the problem, TIB. I've no idea who I would want to replace Slot, if/ when he goes. I keep flip flopping over whether he should stay or go, basically because there is no realistic, outstanding, available candidate.

As I've previously said, there is no Klopp/ Ancelotti as there was 10 years ago. And before that, when we appointed Rodgers, we were fishing in different waters. We are champions of England, we should be looking at appointing the very best.

Like I say, I flip/ flop. This morning I'm leaning towards him going. Where I do have a clear opinion is Salah was bang out of order. Me, me me. The Egyptian Sulk.

07 Dec 2025 11:57:39
Slot won't be gone by Christmas.
Can you imagine having to spend it with the family?

07 Dec 2025 12:00:36
Bulk, for me Stevie g is the only sensible option, he can keep us in the top six maybe top Four for the rest of the season, he is a scouser, knows the club inside out, would instill a lot more drive and energy into the squad,
He would know what players to leave out and bring in,
Its a no brainer that Slot and con ate need to leave the club,
Mo Salah Legend that he is and always will be, has to be sold in January to raise funds to bring in a much younger right winger,
Sadly Mo could have played his last game for liverpool,
We have wasted millions in the last transfer window, Isak being the main one plus not bringing in a quality centre back, it beggars belief that those at the top spent so much yet got so much wrong,

07 Dec 2025 12:08:58
The best man for the job also seems to be the most unlikely, Luis Enrique.
The stars seem to be aligning towards an out of contract Ireola in the summer or Alonso if things don't go to plan at Madrid.
Interim wise i'd take anyone who can get us playing with energy and desire.

07 Dec 2025 12:10:09
Anyone bar Arne.

07 Dec 2025 12:33:27
Rome and Bulk, this is prolly why I think Slot may stay till the end of the season so the club can get their ducks in a row. Remember, BR kept his job not cos they wanted him to stay. They did cos they hadn't found their candidate.

As soon as they did, he was sacked the day before his last game at Everton, if I remember the Ed's saying so at the time. I believe it could come to this.

07 Dec 2025 13:08:35
Anyone but Gerard.

07 Dec 2025 13:22:53
Oli, that is not beyond the realms of possibility. It won't sit well with a lot of folk on here, but till there is dissent in the ground the club might just sit tight.

I don't get to many away games, but speaking to those that do, most of the stick is aimed at the players. That can obviously change. I go to most of the home games and up till now the fans haven't turned on the manager. Again, that can soon change. What an absolute mess we are in.

07 Dec 2025 13:50:54
Gerrard isn’t the best man for the job at all. He doesn’t know the club inside and out, he has been at the club since Bodgers was here. His managerial experience is poor, last time he managed a premier league club he nearly got them relegated and it took Unai Emery to sort out the mess he left.

He hasn’t managed at any level since that debacle in Saudi, which he also failed at. Tactically he is inept and he has zero charisma or personality to try and lift the squad. It would just make a bad situation ten times worse. People need to stop being nostalgic and use their heads, not their hearts.

07 Dec 2025 14:03:20
Well said, VV.

07 Dec 2025 14:38:21
I get what you're saying Victor, but for me there are two lists for our next manager,
1st is one to get a grip on this team, and bring us back to a winning team, and until the end of the season,
2nd is a permanent manager who hopefully will take us back to winning the league and Champions league, and teams will hate playing us rather than loving playing us.

07 Dec 2025 14:45:09
I just can't see slot still being here in the summer. Carra seemed to point to a trove of top talent that would drop everything to manage Liverpool. It will be interesting to see what pans out. I do agree with VV's points about stevie me though. He's not the answer but it wouldn't surprise me if it happened.

07 Dec 2025 16:14:33
Rome, at least you get to go to games period. People like me may never see a game at Anfield. Like Ever.

Seriously tho, I agree with your points. We are in a very precarious position and on its face, I feel like we should rip everything up and start again in the summer.

And yeah like @Bulk, Stevie G should stay well away from the managerial position of my club.

07 Dec 2025 10:05:12
Hi All,

The situation for me is very simple.

The style of football and tactics has changed radically and is failing. It is slow, boring and easy for the opposition to deal with.

The ability to change games positively, with or without the lead in the game, is failing. Slots seems out of ideas on how to positively change the game and best utilise his squad.

Player relationships are failing.

Player performances as a result of the above are falling.

All of this sits with the Manager/ Coach.

All competitions: 11 wins in 25 games (44% win percentage) has significantly reduced compared to previous years and is no where near the required performance level for success.

The football is dull, boring, easy for the opposition and leaves the team constantly exposed.

It is time for Slot to go and for the Management Group to move the club forward as this is not working.

07 Dec 2025 10:13:36
Hi All,

Just to add to the above, the win percentage for 24/ 25 season all competitions was 68%.

So, there is a clear and significant reduction in performance and results following Slot changing personal and playing style/ tactics.

07 Dec 2025 10:52:39
I reckon this all ties in with Heitinga's departure. Maybe Slot relied on him heavily and is struggling without his influence?

07 Dec 2025 11:07:40
Captain hindsight here but I didn’t actually enjoy a lot of the football we played last season under Slot but we were flying high and won the league and football is a results business so it would have been crazy to moan about it.

Watching games at the ground under Klopp was a totally different experience to watching them under Slot. It’s hard to get excited when it feels like we have the handbrake on and are playing safety first and anxious energy throughout the stadium everytime a ball comes into our box.

Slot brought us the title last season and that will never be forgotten but he currently looks like a man that doesn’t have any answers to the questions being asked on and off the pitch.

07 Dec 2025 11:52:07
How many times already this season have Liverpool let a two goal lead slip?
I agree something is very clearly wrong but they are all to blame, Slot and the players.
If you, as a team are incapable of protecting a lead, repeatedly then you’re not doing your job properly.

07 Dec 2025 09:26:44
As a United fan, I’ve seen this exact scenario play out multiple times since Fergie left.

My younger brother is a LFC supporter, so you can understand the banter.
Of late, like many Liverpool supporters, he has lost faith in Slot, and I keep teasing him, “But he won you the league! ” 😉

We watch games together and let me tell you guys, you are a shadow of the team you were under Klopp.

Last season you won the league, and that would not have been possible without Salah. His drop-off coincided with your drop-off since the turn of the year. That is not a coincidence.

Salah has spoken out today, maybe because he feels like he is getting the brunt of it.
Why is he being dropped while Gakpo, Konate and Mac Allister, who have been even worse, keep playing every match?
And I am sure he is not the only one feeling that way in the dressing room. Chiesa, for example.

Things are not always black and white. When CR7 gave his interview, everyone was battering him and calling him out, but in the end a lot of what he said turned out to be true. Salah might be doing the same here.

This is not a Salah problem. This is a club problem, because Slot’s man management has been dreadful.

I honestly believe this might be Salah’s latest assist for your club.

Not looking good for Slot and Liverpool.

07 Dec 2025 09:57:16
Let’s hope the problem does not plummet to Man Utd levels. Has sacking multiple managers made Utd any closer to being title contenders? No, it most certainly hasn’t, if anything, it has made Utd even worse.

The way I see it, Salah’s broadside has made removing Slot less likely than it was, the owners will not want to encourage a player-power led dismissals played out through the media. Did Utd get more respect when dismissing Mourinho after the public utterings of their star player Pogba? No.

This is a crap time for LFC, as Martin Samuels says today in the times, Salah was wrong to say what he did, it is self serving and his belief that he no longer needs to prove himself to be picked in the team makes everything else in that statement laughable, of course he needs to play well to be picked, for F sake, there were plenty of posters here calling for him to be dropped because he was playing to poorly. But LFC were right to give him a contract, if for no other reason than he will bring in a transfer fee when he goes and he did play so well last season.

Watching yesterday’s game, the ending was a shambles but up to the time that clown Konate gave away the penalty, the team were doing well. I can’t believe he also turned his back for the second goal, for a big guy, he is a coward. Fact is, Konate, yet again cost us. Gomez was as poor when he came on, it is hard to reconcile the fact that he was Virg’s partner when Klopp won the league.

No one is blameless, Slot certainly has made mistakes, but the senior players, world renowned all, and Hughes/ Edwards must share responsibility. Failing to get a CB after spending so much on attackers and knowing that the right side would be exposed due to Salah not tracking back has been shown to be negligent. Removing the manager might please Ed001 and the bandwagoners, but some of the first team (Virg, Salah, Mac, Gakpo, Jones) should also pay the price for their decline, I would jettison Hughes as well.

{Ed001's Note - why would it please me? Don't be a prick, pathetic little jibe and completely ignoring the fact that I said from the start that Hughes was wrong, so you aren't special. Just another one making snide digs to try and make yourself seem superior to others.}

07 Dec 2025 10:18:48
Really uncalled for.

The Eds do so much to keep give people a platform to talk.

Have a little respect.

Ta.

07 Dec 2025 09:28:34
Any noise from the club Carra? The silence is deafening.

Hughes and Edwards hiding behind the couch.

07 Dec 2025 10:37:34
Wtf d day

Ed1 is one of the most fair and balanced posters here where in fact pretty much everyone asks for his insight and opinion. He has even said i don't know when he doesn't know rather than speculate . responding to questions rather than starting a new post .


Behave.

07 Dec 2025 10:42:42
Good post that RBK. Slight problem we’ve had is if you drop all the off form players we’d be down into the u23’s each week for most of the team. you’re right this is a club problem.

07 Dec 2025 10:43:16
A manager/ coach always takes the brunt, it has been like this since football began. Sure some players might be shipped out the door eventually and even Hughes etc might get the bullet at some stage but one thing to remember is that this team won the PL last season and came close enough the season before and it’s not as if the whole team is over the hill all at once.

Of course it needs a bit of help in Midfield and Defence but the team should still be doing infinitely better than it is at this moment and that can only be down to Slot, be it coaching, setup etc.

07 Dec 2025 10:48:07
D-Day WTAF 🤷‍♂️.

07 Dec 2025 10:49:46
D-day. so you think we will end up like united because they've sacked a few managers , so with that logic we should stick with Slot . We all know the problem isn't just the manager but he picks the team n the tactics every game, he the one who also plays Konate ( the one you're slagging off) is that down to Hughes or Edwards, no that's down to this manager, we've gone from champions n expected champions again to this horrendous style of football with hardly any wins n we look beatable in every single game .

who's fault is that .

07 Dec 2025 10:55:14
Out of order having a pop at Ed01.

07 Dec 2025 11:19:43
Penalty only happens because of the gaping hole in midfield. They had acres of space to play in. Konate’s challenge was brain dead, but the lack of organisation and defensive awareness in midfield is shocking. As for the second, Jones is the closest player to Stach, he stands off him, gives him room to pick his spot and score.

Our weakness and lack of organisation in midfield is a huge factor in all this. Same old rubbish week in week out.

07 Dec 2025 11:22:32
D-day, what a divvy you are for having a dig for no reason and nothing to go on, what was the point?

RBK, good post.

07 Dec 2025 11:23:33
I bet 98% of posters on here respect ed1 for the insight he gives
I know I certainly do but show some respect.

07 Dec 2025 11:24:44
@Stromsgodset, how on earth did you take that from my post?

My point was, sacking managers ala Utd does not assure improvement.

I can only assume he is picking Konate because there is no better alternative. Gomez again showed yesterday that he is limited, and has unfortunately been shown to be injury prone.

Whose fault? I think it is a collective effort, poor management both on and off the pitch, desperately poor performances by highly regarded senior players, and a failure in recruitment, notably not getting at least one quality CB along with the young Italian prospect.

07 Dec 2025 11:35:34
Getting rid of Slot would please a lot of people 😂.
On Gomez, we should remember that he played alongside a younger van Dijk, TAA and Robbo with Fabinho, Henderson, Wijnaldum and Milner in front of them with Salah, Mane and Firmino all tracking back, as well.
I reckon I could have played centre half that season and we'd still have won the League.

07 Dec 2025 11:52:28
D-day because you used the United having changed their managers a lot for their demise . but then go and say changing the manager might make ED001 n a few of rhe bandwahoners happy. and the end of the day the managers takes the fall. yea there could've been better recruitment, but we got a good young CB who got injured on his first game . we got 2 good FBs n 3 excellent forward players. i thought we could do with a defensive midfielder. but its up the the manager n his team to get the best of the players n he has failed miserably, Salah can't go from a top goalscorer to nothing in the space of a cpl of months, he plays gravenberch in not the same way like last season n hasn't realised its definitely not working .

its nobody but the managers fault, how we play this boring slow unexciting football . As for Konate do you think its not worth putting Gomez in even for a few games but continually play an error prone Konate every single week.

07 Dec 2025 12:05:34
D-day, those jibes are uncalled for fella. The amount of time and effort Ed puts into this site, he doesn't need comments from people twisting his words and insuiating things he never said.

You was doing so well to that point mate.

07 Dec 2025 12:38:44
Seems D-Day just made a dig at Ed01 just to get him to respond. Clout-chasing, me thinks.

Also, I am a bandwagon fan cos I want Slot gone as he has failed miserably and abandonned everything that made us successful last season to the point of being the laughing stock of opposing players and managers mocking his stayle of play and calling us "soft"?

Yeah, take a day of mate. You seem lost.

07 Dec 2025 13:51:32
Don't take anything away from Gomez during that title winning season, Rigsby. He was immense then. Players would avoid going up against vvd but Gomez more than held his own. He would have been a starter for us for many years if not for the horrible injury he sustained the season after.

07 Dec 2025 09:24:10
Anyone else completely fed-up of our club being a laughing stock?
While I was waiting for yesterdays game to start, I watched the "Match of The Day" from when we beat Spurs last season to win the league. That seems a lifetime ago now.

07 Dec 2025 11:37:58
We're not a laughing stock.
We're going through a torrid time but we are PL champions and have some very good players.
We just need a few grafters to complement them.

07 Dec 2025 12:40:19
Rigsby, you prolly want to go listen to what oppo. managers/ players say about us and our style of play.

Essenstially, they have said we were never a threat to them (which we weren't) and also, we did not surprise them with the way we played them. Just saying.

07 Dec 2025 09:21:46
[Chris Williams] Salah’s words are particularly striking, comes after a number of senior players were unhappy when Heitinga left, the relationship between the players and Heitinga is said to have been stronger than that between Slot and the players.

Reddy - "This is such an exceptionally sad, depressing turn in Mohamed Salah’s Liverpool story. Feeling like the club have thrown him under the bus, admitting he no longer has a relationship with Arne Slot, that it “seems like someone does not want me” at Anfield, and is strongly hinting at being forced out in the January window is not the treatment, legacy, nor conclusion his history-making contributions deserve.

It just wasn’t meant to be like this.

His hurt is evident, and he’s clearly succumbed to his emotions by revealing all of this publicly, but Liverpool do not need more harm right now. And this is damaging. It will also understandably impede how many will view him. Crisis feels a soft description.

Salah seems particularly vexed by being framed as Liverpool‘s problem when that is counter to the truth and players in worse form keep their places in a system and approaching that is heavily flawed.

He also seems annoyed that his talks in private with the manager and club haven’t answered why his situation has changed so drastically. “I asked but I didn't see an explanation. I knew I wasn't going to play. ”

Reading between the lines, there‘s a sense he’s being scapegoated and sacrificed to remedy some recruitment errors that have led to an unrecognisable Liverpool on the pitch.

However much Salah is hurting and whatever he is feeling, this doesn’t tally with ‘The Liverpool Way. ’

And goodness, he deserves infinitely more than this mess. "

Hughes trying to save his own bacon now.

07 Dec 2025 09:39:31
Literally no one thought Mo was THE problem until he opened his mouth.

07 Dec 2025 09:55:36
Ah come on. Plenty wanted Salah benched, saying he shouldn’t have been given a new contract etc. He might not have been the only problem but plenty on this forum thought he was definitely part of the problem.

07 Dec 2025 09:56:14
Mo didn’t play last night. He can hardly take the credit for that p. poor performance and result.

07 Dec 2025 10:17:04
Agreed Faith. And where is the players' leadership group in all this? If Slot has "lost the dressing room" - as is being suggested - then this can't happen without factions, which is in itself a failure in leadership.

{Ed001's Note - the players' leadership group spoke to Slot about the tactics, if you remember there was a well reported clear the air meeting? As a result we got a change in tactics for the Villa and Madrid games, then the players were told it was not sustainable and we reverted back to this crap. Klopp used to constantly override the fitness and conditioning coaches, the training was harder despite their concerns and advice and as a result the players were fitter, stronger, faster. Slot listens to them and we are seeing the results of their input.}

07 Dec 2025 10:30:34
Yes I do remember that, Ed01.
Interesting about Slot. still think there's a leadership failure within the player's group, but. very interesting nonetheless, and probably very relevant.
At some point he surely must add one and one together. Right?

{Ed001's Note - he has so far been doing that and coming up with 11.}

07 Dec 2025 10:41:44
Dutch (oven) arithmetic, mate.

{Ed001's Note - good one!}

07 Dec 2025 10:46:50
Ed001

Agreed. 100%

I have made no secret of my long term dislike for Slot. I have now extended it to Hughes and Edwards.

Little men at a big club, especially Slot. I understand he is well liked in the Netherlands.
The next flight leaves in.

{Ed001's Note - I do think Slot is a difficult man to like as a person. I can see why the players struggle to take to him, he doesn't have that charisma, for example Klopp had.}

07 Dec 2025 10:55:44
Jokes aside, I find this line of analysis really troubling. It almost intimates that Slot had little idea why things went so well last year. I would hate to think that that was true. I mean he couldn't have just woken up recently and decided to self-sabotage.

{Ed001's Note - he seems to think he knows better, really. Everyone says to him that the lack of physicality is getting us bullied in midfield, but he won't accept it and continues to go more technical instead wanting a player to open up defences, which was Wirtz. Clearly we miss a destroyer, but he doesn't agree.}

07 Dec 2025 11:24:24
That's strange, ed, he does strike me as a pretty likeable and affable character, or at least he did last year when we were winning.

{Ed001's Note - really? I find him very cold. Maybe just in comparison to Klopp. He just doesn't seem to have any charisma at all, which is fine if his assistant has it, but GvB doesn't have any either.}

07 Dec 2025 11:45:17
Yeah, I agree, Ed01, and I want it put on record that I've hated his fashion sense since day one.

07 Dec 2025 12:26:57
I don't think that it's fair to compare his charisma to Klopp's. Klopp had buckets of the stuff, don't think anyone could really compete on that front.

I definitely agree with the description of Slot as "cold", although again I thought this was useful at points last season (especially during the occasional wobbles) .

For the record, Ed001, apologies if any of my posts have been interpreted as sly digs. Absolutely not the case, I very much enjoy engaging with people who completely disagree with me. I would not suggest that you would be jumping for joy if Slot was sacked, as presumably your main priority is watching Liverpool do well, being in a situation where a manager is sacked is exactly counter to that.

{Ed001's Note - I have not noticed you have any digs mate. But then I might have struggled to decipher it amongst the Ikea references! I certainly won't be jumping for joy when Slot goes, which will obviously happen at some point even if he turns it around. I watch every match hoping that he will turn it around, even Rodgers I wanted to see win every match, though I found him embarrassing. I just find Slot a bit cold, you are right though you can't compare him to Klopp on the charisma fault, it is unfair. I do think the issue is in large part the lack of personality alongside him on the bench. Heitinga had a big personality, none of the others really do.}

07 Dec 2025 15:52:06
Ed01, many thanks for your information here as I did not know that the "clear the air talks" was about tactics.

So as this is true (and as I already said), Slot is trying to force these pathetic tactics on the team who don't want it as it makes them play badly whereas we have seen empirical evidence that the tactics from last season worked on Villa and RM. So essentially, Slot thinks he (and his staff mates) are right and everyone else incl. the players are wrong. Recipe for disaster.

Hence as things aren't working, Salah feels like he is being blamed for Slot's own tactical mistakes led by his ego and his inability to relate to the players. Seems Heitinga was the bridge btw the players and Slot.

Remember Ed, I used to tell you about managers being in a bubble that despite how bad things can be, they keep convincing themselves that things will come good despite evidence of the contrary and the players and many in the fan base screaming bloddy murder about what their eyes are seeing?

Seems like this is what is happening and Salah seems fed up with getting benched and blamed whereas other senior players are stinking up the joint and still get picked. Just my take.

{Ed001's Note - the problem is that they look at the stats that show things are working and it will come good and ignore all context. The only stat that should really matter is the score. The rest all require so much context that you have to be very careful.}

07 Dec 2025 08:57:18
What does everyone think about the set up around Arne?

Given our summer transfer business I have serious doubts as to whether Hughes, in particular, has what I takes to keep us successful.

We desperately needed an experienced CB, a proper DM and some reinforcements up top (all across the front line, in addition to a LB and a RB.

Last season we could see that start of teams being able to play through us, and an over-reliance on Konate and Virgil.

We have not brought in direction competition for either - we got a young CB who is unfortunately out, and seemed to put all our eggs in one CB basket.

We bought two pacey FBs, who are both clearly, and were clearly, based on overlapping runs and providing width - Slot wants them playing inverted and neither seem suited .

DM - no replacement or back up bought. Simply put, a significant error that is having dire consequences ion our results

Up front. In essence we’ve bought two centre forwards. After Jota’s sad passing we needed to bring one in, but we brought in two. We haven’t really bought a Diaz replacement or someone to apply pressure to Salah.
Slot clearly doesn’t fancy Chiesa so we are players light up top.

Don’t get me wrong. I think the coaching staff should be getting far more out of the players we have, but I don’t think all the scrutiny should be just Slot’s.

I don’t worry that Edwards (who arguably Klopp made look better than he was, and Hughes have too much power on the football side, and that changing the manager won’t necessarily solve all the problems we currently have.

{Ed001's Note - we needed two centre forwards - we lost all three players who played the role for us last season, Nunez, Jota and Diaz.}

07 Dec 2025 09:32:40
All of those 3 CF's knew how to press, whilst Eki and Isak are not particularly strong in that area.

Leoni woulod be furst choice by now had he not gotten injured.

Hughes backed the wrong man, who anyway, was second choice to Alonso, and now he's floundering.

Talk of the players not having a great relationship with Slot, i imagine because his interpersonal skills, man management and aura lack big time,

This side needs 3/ 4 prem ready players, battlers, and a manager who knows the lague and who has more than one trick up his sleeve.

This could get a whole lot worse before it gets better.

07 Dec 2025 09:38:22
That was a transfer window from heaven this form has nothing to do with it.
The form started like this from February last season we was lucky last season because the league was weak because if there was any challenge at the end of the season we would not have stood up to it.


Slot need replacing this week or we will struggle to finish in the top half of the season.

07 Dec 2025 09:38:33
I get what you're saying on the two strikers Ed but in my opinion it's too much money on players where it seems to be either-or. Ekitike and Isak are both 9s who want to, and you would expect to given their transfer fees, start most games. In my opinion, we should have gone for Ekitike and a more versatile option or someone who is more of a young talent this summer. Perhaps we could have tried for Alvarez again next year? Breaking the British transfer record for a player who isn't even the best 9 at the club right now is a mess.

I think Hughes has erred with Frimpong and Mamardashvili as well. Completely the wrong profile of players for our style.

{Ed001's Note - Ekitike is versatile, he can play on the left or deeper, there is no reason Slot couldn't make it work other than ineptitude. I agree on Frimpong and Mamadarshvili too. Frimpong isn't even a right-back and we were all concerned about that one at the time, though everyone likes his personality. As for the Georgian keeper, I am not convinced he is even a particularly good keeper, let alone the right profile. It was a stupid signing, as I said at the time and nothing I have seen since has changed my opinion.}

07 Dec 2025 09:44:15
I agree Ed but did we need to spend that much on two strikers when other areas of the pitch needed addressing?

As an aside- do you know why Edwards left the club when Klopp was manager?

{Ed001's Note - we had plenty more money to spend, the issue was that we failed to get other targets, such as the two Bournemouth centre-backs, that we tried for. So buying those two strikers did not make a difference to the failings elsewhere.

Edwards left because he lost a power battle with Klopp. Klopp got full control of transfers and Edwards was unhappy about it. I actually agree with him that the head coach shouldn't have been given all the powers he had - we saw that the summer that we ended up with a complete breakdown in midfield signings. There had been a number of midfielders lined up ready to sign, but Klopp vetoed them all. Then panicked at the end of the window and signed an always injured midfielder from Roma, whose name I have completely forgotten right now. His name has just gone from my mind, probably to shield me from the trauma!}

07 Dec 2025 09:47:41
The Kerkez one is the biggest illustration of the problem we seem to have. He is a marauding left back who rarely crosses a ball in our team, or goes beyond the opposing fullback. That may mean that Hughes and Arne didn’t discuss the way he was going to be used before they bought him, it would have been crazy to buy him as a sitting or inverted player. The only excuse I can think of is he will play that role next season after we buy a replacement for Diaz.

Frimpong less so because he’s not really a fullback. Which raises other questions. I think he was a Mo rotation option, he’s just not been fit.

The word is that Slot wanted to keep Diaz, Hughes didn’t see the value in renewing at the salary level being requested. It was leaked out that Diaz wouldn’t stay under any circumstances, but there’s another school of thought he was quite happy to stay if the contract was right. Who knows.

You could go through it one by one with the benefit of hindsight, but the Leoni, Kerkez and Frimpong buys were questioned before we bought them. Leoni in the sense no one really knew him, he certainly wasn’t a starter.

In terms of the sales Nunez was supported by most, as was the buy of Isak.

The Wirtz one really puzzles me. I’m not sure how we thought we’d get him into our structure without a more defensive centre mid in the team, and without compromising the role of Szob who’s often been our best player. Whilst he was a Hollywood exciting buy it didn’t make a lot of sense, especially for that sort of money when we knew other parts of the team needed a refresh.

07 Dec 2025 09:57:09
We bought two number 9s who would want to be the main man (I think)

I agree Ed that Slot could make it work but surely that isn’t my point
The point is the person responsible for putting the side out should be going to Edwards and Hughes and saying “get me this, this, and this”

Hugo could play 10 but Wirtz could play there. As could Dom

It just looks to me as if Hughes has had money burning a while in his pocket and gone out and splurged it


And my posts on this in no way detract from what I think about Slot

I got pelters on here last season and over the summer for continually stating the coaching set up was making us worse, not better.

07 Dec 2025 10:00:16
His name is Arthur Melo, ed. How could you forget?! The best 12 mins I’ve ever seen against Napoli.

{Ed001's Note - oh god yes that's him. That was the beginning of the end with Edwards. Though personally, as I have said from the start, I just think he is way above his pay grade and should still be recommending signings, which he was brilliant at, he is no director. He is not strong enough or decisive enough.}

07 Dec 2025 10:04:59
I like Bradley and think he’s got a lot of potential but last night he looked like he didn’t know how to cross the ball or was allowed to in the first half. We all know he can do it so it’s clearly the team instructions.

I’m also a big fan of Gakpo but he needs to be taken out of the team. He is more of a problem than a solution at the moment.

Also not sure why Endo is trying to waste time on the corner flag when there is 9 mins of play still to go.

07 Dec 2025 10:46:49
I thought the same with Connor JK. I’m less of a fan of Cody as a starter but his numbers can be decent off the bench, or when he was filling in when Diaz or Nunez weren’t fit. He seems like a decent guy, and a good squad player.

07 Dec 2025 11:09:14
It was Bradley's cross that led to our second goal though. And that was the frustrating thing about last night. Most of the play came down the left where we were extremely ineffective. Gakpo, Jones, and Kerkez were just passing the ball between them before passing it back to Vvd and repeating the process all over again. The few times we went right we looked incisive.

And endo was brought on to waste time. Even Slot said so during his post-match comments. I don't agree with it at all but the players were instructed to sit back and not attack.

07 Dec 2025 11:57:15
When you said panicked and bought an always injured midfielder from Roma Ed 001 I thought, Aquilani? 😂.

{Ed001's Note - not that far back! Rafa was gutted when he saw him in training - trusted his scouts and it bit him badly.}

07 Dec 2025 12:00:29
Drac connors cross was in the second half. I said he didn’t cross it in the first half.

Endo coming on should have been to try and close the huge gaps in midfield not hold onto the ball on the corner flag for 6 seconds when there are 9 mins to play.

Not saying it’s Endos fault but don’t see what was to gain from it and it backfired.

07 Dec 2025 08:37:33
In the words of the greatest man. shanks. if a player is getting well paid and he's not doing his job for the fans or public then if I could if put him in jail. imagine Salah coming out with the interview in them days. what if give to have a bill shanks in the dugout 💪.

07 Dec 2025 08:58:13
The woke section would probably get him sacked.

07 Dec 2025 09:03:27
Shanks would have him training with the kids until the January transfer window came around.

07 Dec 2025 09:11:47
If shanks had been in the dugout, I doubt Salah would have made the comments he did in the first place.

Tbh I'm beginning to wonder if Salah being benched for the past three games have anything to do with footballing reasons in the first place or not. I think there was a falling out between the two prior to the West Ham game that caused the outburst.

07 Dec 2025 09:25:34
Piss off, how is he not doing his Job? He carried us for years and now this?

07 Dec 2025 15:55:04
@hmasson2 pls, does that apply to the manager as well or is this for players only? Just asking for a friend.

07 Dec 2025 08:24:03
I dug out the full interview with Salah and whilst there will be a few bites taken for the media, I. e. the relationship with slot. It’s basically a player that’s sick of the media noise around him.

Some other quotes below

How frustrated are you? "With respect, I love everyone. I love (Erling) Haaland, I will talk about him. I am the current top goalscorer in the Premier League. He is not yet. He is going to win it hopefully and that is fine for him. I love him and he knows that.

"I am top goalscorer, best player, winning the league in such a style, but I am the one who has to defend himself in front of the media and fans. "

Does this hurt you more? "Absolutely. After what I have done for the club it really hurts. You can imagine, really. After going from home to the club and you don't know if you are starting. I know the club too well, I have been here many years. Tomorrow (Jamie) Carragher is going to go for me again and again and that's fine. "

Some talk in the interview about his Saudi interest. Then continues with the below.

"I remember a while go, Harry Kane was not scoring for 10 games, everyone in the media was like 'oh, Harry will score for sure'. When it comes to Mo everyone is like 'he needs to be on the bench'. I am sorry Harry! "

It shows a slightly different angle to the comments. One of a player that clearly cares how he is perceived and talked about.

Mo is a legend for this club, no two ways about it, and I do get his frustration. But when you are a figurehead for the club, you have to be aware of the repercussions this will cause both the fans and his team mates. Right now, I don't think it was the best time to speak.

07 Dec 2025 13:20:21
BBC has the full transcript.

07 Dec 2025 08:00:41
Wow. Just wow.

This is a disaster of epic proportions!

The likely outcome after this.

Mo leaves in Jan.
We buy Semenyo and Guei in Jan
Slot stays till the end of the season
We finish outside of the top 4
No FA Cup run
No CL run

That's my predictions anyway.

Slot does not seem to want to change his style
Players are not happy behind the scenes. for whatever reason
Board are stuck between dammed if we do and dammed if we don't.

07 Dec 2025 08:13:17
JLC, slot won’t be here until the summer, the fans will get to breaking point with it. I stick by my prediction that Inter will be his last game (based on nothing more than a hunch) .

I do think Salah is gone in Jan though and I am ok with that. He hasn’t played well for the majority of the season (none of them have tbf) but he isn’t the future. We need to build for life without Mo and we may as well rip the band aid off and move forward.

Top four is still very achievable but we have to act quick before it’s too late.

07 Dec 2025 08:39:43
Mo is not the future but he is the present. last summer fans wanted both tsimi AND robbo gone look how that turned out. Semenyo isn’t all that, under klopp yes but under slot and this playing style he will be a waste of money.

07 Dec 2025 08:59:10
This "disaster", JLC, is at least 3.5 years in the making - let's not be selective with our memory. Actually, I see it more as a long term "transition" period within which we "accidently" (and wonderfully) won the league. And by the way, we're not entitled.

07 Dec 2025 09:11:00
One good thing with this type of situation if you grasp it can be a clear the decks opportunity, a fresh start.

That’s better than a slow festering decline like at Man Utd which is really difficult to turnaround.
Tbh we were like Man Utd pre Jurgen so this isn’t new ground for us and we should be able to move up from here.

If you look at Klopps first team we had a few players who’d get in this team, Skrtel, Lucas or Milner and Coutinho but that’s it.

Maybe losing Mo will be this generations Coutinho moment, and we a use that to kick start something better. Shame we won’t be getting £100m though.

07 Dec 2025 09:22:39
First half we were extremely poor and seemed to overplay everything on the right hand side and then Gakpo had zero product on the left.

Defensively we are all over the shop. Everytime a ball comes into the box we look petrified. Konate no words for that penalty, jones was like a revolving door for the second and the third we just let the ball come into the box with no aggression to even attack it.

Our first goal came from a Leeds error and apart from Jones shot we looked toothless in attack up until then.

How anyone is taking any positives out of that game or our recent form is anyone’s guess.

07 Dec 2025 12:24:47
Could I mention Hugo Ekitike.

07 Dec 2025 07:52:38
It’s been a bizarre few hours to say the least, Salah and Dom basically coming out saying Slot has lost the dressing room in different ways, Slot basically being the new Roy Hodgson of excuses and LFC going from champions to relegation form.

I personally think Salah maybe jumped the mark going public with what he said, he’s a senior figure who in fairness has not been up to his standard this season - so far.

However form is always temporary and we don’t know what is happening behind the scenes, what is going on in training etc which means his form isn’t great. Maybe it’s the fact none of the players are fit?

Salah may not have been up to his normal form but which player actually has, and as soon as the heat starts turning up slot drops him yet keeps many other under performing stars on the pitch, and drops the striker we have who isn’t and firing for one that again isn’t fit!

I personally think Slot has gambled by benching Salah and scapegoating him due to who he is. Dom spoke out and then Salah just went nuclear.

It’s sad watching LFC be like this, but Hughes now needs to show why he’s in the position he is and resolve this quickly, I still think Slot is not a serial winner, he is not committed enough to LFC and has far to many interest in the wrong areas to be successful, if anything it was a surprise to win the league last year and with the spend and squad build we should at the very least be challenging again, the tactics are garbage, players are not fit and by sounds of it he doesn’t have the man management skills to explain why players are being dropped.

Rewatching games and interviews you can tell the body language of many players isn’t right, getting rid of Salah won’t solve this, it’s time for Slot to move on and get someone in who can get the players fit, firing and challenging.

Whether Salah stays or goes for me is irrelevant he’s not the problem, he shouldn’t of done a Ronaldo and did what he did but he’s given a lot to this team and feels aggrieved which going on how slots other picks are just as bad form wise I understand why he did.

This can only really end one way, if hughes doesn't see slot as the problem I can see Hughes’s and Slot moving on at the end of the season, as this is not going to end well with slot showing no sign of wanting to change.

07 Dec 2025 07:28:45
I don't know about the dressing room but Slot has lost me.